Jakarta

[GentileBear]

Do you have any discord channels worth joining?

None for Indonesia. I am unaware of any. I am in a few for Pattaya TH. I have only visited Jakarta Indo once and had a BLAST! Forgot if I posted about it here but in short. I stayed in Jakarta 2 weeks and never made it to Classic, Melio Club or Collusium. I went 100% Tinder and TanTan phone apps and got great results mostly. One lady wanted HUGE money up front but I respectfully declined and went on to the next. Ended up with a keeper for 1 week and was in heaven. Here's a few pics. Yup the keeper is by the Christmas tree. The Instagram poster lady told me she did not drink. Then when I drank some Jack Daniels she said "I try. ".

Loved that place. But I don't know if I would get the same results a few years later.

[Sammon]

Why you want to pay her if she's not P4P and doesn't want money?

Well, just because I met her on dating site does not mean she agreed to be with me out of goodness in her heart. Besides I always give money to keep it as a business deal. Not giving them any idea that it is long term relationship ending up in marriage.

In case she does not want any money I intend to buy her gifts or take her shopping.

Very rarely girls refused money from me in Asia. Some never even looked at how much I put in her purse. When I was younger I have met and had fun with tourist girls in my travels who were free. All the same I have taken them to nice restaurants and tours. I met two Japanese air hostesses on vacation in Rome and they were fun to be with. Norway girl in Tokyo I met walking sukiji seafood market. Danish girl in Phnom Penh when we were having breakfast in hotel. Girl from San Francisco in Beijing in a tour. Surprisingly she was kind of loaded having sold her business for two million dollars. She was traveling all over the world by herself. All of these girls needed some work to get into bed. Mainly tourist walks together, sightseeing, dinner etc.

But as you get older it is harder to get young girls to be befriended. There are older women but I look for only younger girls on datsites.

[Goferring]

Classic Hotel report: I am permanently damaged and my emotional health is ruined...

A great post. I've added to Reports of Distinction.

Some might say you were overly generous with your tips but you had a great time so it was $10 or 20 very well spent.

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

I agree and seconded that, there are very few mongers from overseas are back to Jakarta, this is because flights are prohibitive expensive and country is just opened up. You are lucky you are already there but others will contribute once they reach the place and flight price get settled.

Currently if I want to fly to Jakarta it cost me 4 times then what I used to pay pre covid days, so waiting for more airline to operate and bring price down.

I'd agree that the flights have hurt the local scene but you also have the loss of the concentrated foreigner friendly red light areas. Blok M is a shadow of its former self. This leaves the remaining areas spread out all over town and subject to horrendous traffic to get between them.

On the flip side, for guys prepared to put in some ground work, go to "scary" local areas, and allow some time to find their feet, the rewards are certainly there. Jakarta 9's rival the prettiest BKK gogo girls and Indo GFE rivals the sweetest Pina. I wouldn't count Jakarta out yet.

[WeKilledKenny]

Classic Hotel report: I am permanently damaged and my emotional health is ruined. First time in Jakarta, I went to Classic 3 consecutive nights. I also visited Indah Kota one night, but it was forgettable by comparison. Originally intended to visit Classic one night, Keplah Gading another, and then go to Mr Braid on the 3rd, but things turned out different.

I arrived at classic at about 1800 on Saturday night, courtesy of a.

28 k go-car which dropped me off at the roadside. ID RTFF, and as much as I could on other sites, and my plan was to visit the 3rd floor, sample a couple of Indonesian girls and maybe visit the 'bunker' after. Walked on up to the hotel and followed a loud thumping bass soundtrack towards the righthand side. In through a glass door and saw the entrance to a nightclub at ground level. Door security paid me no attention so I decided to go with plan A, and found an escalator that took me up a level. The lobby was huge and deserted. Another escalator to floor 3 and there's a new soundtrack to follow. Was welcomed at the door. Security wanted to frisk me for weapons / police radios / copies of Quran, while a lady slipped a numbered wristband onto my right hand and waved at a sign informing a minimum spend of 40 k every day except Sunday which is 30 k. Then the door to heaven opened. A gaggle of clucking mamasans with laser pointers await just inside the door to ensnare unwary visitors and March them to a table close to their particular pool of talent. I was lucky. I somehow got picked up by a mama with a crystal ball for a skull and a magic wand up her bum, because after ushering me to a table with a good view of the live band on stage, she arranged me a bottle of bintang and then informed me she knew what kind of girls I liked. "A huh" I thought. 90 seconds later she's introducing me to a flawless, slim 18 yo who could have stepped straight off the catwalk in Milan. Her name is S, who gave me a shy smile and squeezed my hand. Mama said 'no baby, new girl here'. Bintang came out my nose. Everything went blurry for a couple seconds. Mama nailed it. Mama said 365,000 rupiah (750 baht) and she was mine to take to a room for an hour. I nodded like I had some semblance of coherent thoughts rushing through my head and proceeded to slowly finish my beer, trying to take in the room. I didn't want to just take the very first thing I was presented, at the same time I'm thinking that I had either died and gone to heaven or else I was about to wake up from a dream very very disappointed. The band on stage were playing a mix of covers, some really well, some not. The music was excellent, the vocals less so. Maybe half a dozen locals are dotted around the place and I can see at least 5 different groups of girls in clusters on the couches around the perimeter of the room. About 40 girls in total, all looking utterly disinterested in the world. Nothing else to see here. 4 red ones got handed to mama, the change returned to her as a tip and mama handed S a slip of paper and a condom in a paper packet. S disappeared for a moment to fetch her bag, and then lead me across the room, down the stairs and into the maze of ST rooms below. No need to give a lurid account of what happens in the room, the memories are mine to treasure. It goes like this. Floor staff check the paperwork, assign a room, and ask if you want drinks. They also ask hopefully for a tip. They don't get grumpy if you say no, but the 2nd time round with a different girl I gave them 20 k each and they were more cheerful after that. Some foreplay on the bed until drinks arrive. S ordered a iced cappuccino and I copied her, and it was a great idea. Room is basic but clean and functional. There's a shower, towels, a bed, a mirror, AC set to cold, and the phone rings with 5 minutes to go as a warning bell. S was closer to starfish than pornstar, inexperienced and all, but there was an element of GFE. She came more than once herself and cuddled up cutely, which blew my mind. See, I expected her to pretend to like me and tolerate our time together as a means to an end. Like those stoney faced girls at rainbow 4 in NEP when you buy them a LD and they sit at arms length from you. Not enjoy it so much she wanted to swap whatsapps and keep in touch and tell me she loves me. This must be what it feels like to be a young wealthy good looking Korean boy in Bangkok. I'm feeling stupidly happy so I tip her 400 k for her trouble. That's 800 baht. Am I overpaying? I don't think so but S is happy. We walk back up to the club slowly, and parted ways. I've probably got a stupid grin on my face. I didn't realize it, but I've contracted Indonitis.

Back in the club. Its now closer to 8, and the place has filled up a bit, many of the tables are occupied including my previous one so I take another in a different spot. The band has been replaced by 2 girls in mesh tops and panties doing some variations of the Bangkok shuffle mixed with unchoreographed tiktok or kpop dance moves, to the sound of 'caralarm' EDM at max volume. My new table comes with a new mamsan who also apparently knows what kind of girls I like. She's pretty onto it as well, because I'm soon introduced to and, who is a friendly and outgoing 22 yo, also with a stunning slim body and creamy smooth skin. While mama is keen to push us off to the room and collect the $, I want to linger a bit. The boobs on the dancers are excellent, buoyant see-cups. The room is very dim, apart from a little spotlight on each table and lighting over the couches where the girls sit. Since the girls make endless trips to the bathroom (in pairs) and are also regularly being called for lineups at tables, you are treated to a never ending parade of shapely silhouettes parading, deliberately stalking along slowly on their hooker heels with delicious poise. Reminds me of the opening credits of a james bond movie. Its mesmerizing and I'm constantly seeing girls I'd go for. The indo body shape is a broad mix, but there's only a couple ID call fat, a dozen slim beauties that would be front and centre in rainbow 4/5, aka my fav type, and the rest would still be the equal or better than average for a Bangkok gogo, with defined waists and a bit more natural boob and butt than Thai girls. Very few tattoos. Ages ID guess 18-25. Faces, there's some variety but average is a mostly smooth girl-next door looks that are pleasant but not standout. Softer than the classical Thai high cheekbone face. Most wear evening dress or casual summer street clothes, and there'd a couple in denim shorts and crop tops. Over the days I enquired with different girls, and got told skinny girls are not the generally preferred body shape for indo men. Excellent news for me! And drinks bintang with me. It comes in 750 ML bottles, and we have beer mugs and an ice bucket.

I pay the money to fuck and and repeat the process. And is far more bouncy and active, pushing me back on the bed and taking a lead at times. More a pro. Tip 300 k to her. Back to the club. Its now around 10 pm, its pretty full, and the stock of girls on couches is depleted. I decided to find out how much ID spent, so I go to counter and check out. Bill is 450 k, paid in cash, receipt issued. The wristband is handed in and I received a slip of paper bundled with a little wooden paddle, which is your ticket to get out the door with the graceful thanks of the door staff.

Outside the door I walk out to the road, call a car ride using gojek and 8 minutes / 30 k later I'm back at my hotel.

Day 2 - Bianca. During the day S messages me to say she's not working tonight, she's back with her mum. Does she want to meet me? No. She needs a day off. Ok. I'm back to Classic anyway, arriving about 1800 again. It seems that if you want to snare a nice catch you got to get there early. A bluebird taxi this time, drives through a labyrinth hotel entry way to deliver me to the front door of the actual hotel classic. I walk through some glass doors into the large atrium where the escalators are. This time I put my head into the bunker on the way in, its deserted. No fun there. Thankfully no minimum charge on Sundays, so I leave without spending a rupiah. On up to level 3, in the door and this time I get set upon by the most pushy mamasan of the lot. Within what seemed like seconds she had 3 19 yo babyless girls at a table with me loudly proclaiming it was 2 for 500 k, but how many girls did I want? 2, 3? 4? she has more on the sofa. Her selected girls are good looking, and the arse-waist-tits ratios make your hands start to move on their own. But I turn down her offer of a threesome with 2 smiling 19 yo girls for 1000 baht. Some part of my brain gave me a weird look. 'You wot, mate?' Yes. Mama was a bit pushy and it put me off like that. Same cover band playing. Same disinterested girls in groups. I spy a tall, skinny thing with a distinctive and attractive face, albeit unsmiling as she chats to the girl next to her. In Bangkok my ladyboy radar would have gone off at her height and slenderness. After a bit mama sees me looking and I get introduced to Bianca. She's 20, a solo mum, super skinny. I like skinny girls. Wide hips, tiny waist and modest boobs. She's demure and sweet. I decide to take for 2 hours, which is simply 2 x 365 k to mamasan. I hand over 750 k and leave her the change, not going to give her any more than that. We had a nice session together, and again, like S, we seemed to connect. Her body had survived a natural childbirth in outstanding shape with the only marks being some small stretch marks on her boobs. She also came repeatedly during our session. Indo girls seem to be really horny and into it. 2 hours gave us some cuddle time and I could tell when the phone went she really didn't want to get up and leave. 500 k tip for 2 hours. She asks Whatsapp please? Ok. Back to the club. The dancers alternate with the live band. There's 3 dancers now, skimpy outfits. One can dance well, 2 can't and seem baffled trying to follow #1's lead. A bit later I'm back in the room banging a more curvy white skinned girl from seleasi somewhere. I forget. She was. More forgettable. In a rush for me to finish. Oh well, you got to expect some losses, I was fairly satisfied and only wanted to tick a box with her face beside it. Yet afterwards she was all keen for my contact and suddenly very friendly. On returning to the club after that its about midnight, so I take a walk about to see it clearly. There's very few girls left on the couches now. Its larger than thought. A sea of tables near the stage, and then around a corner there's half a dozen pool tables, some comfortable looking booths and in the far corner more unoccupied couches. I call it a night. Walk out front, get a gojek to hotel.

Day 3 - S contacts me and confirms she wants to see me again but only via Classic Hotel. Not keen on visiting me in my hotel. She starts at 1500, what time will I be there? She will wait for me. OK. I'm down to start a bit earlier to see S again, and maybe get back to the hotel earlier since I have a flight the next day. ID love to see S again. I take a bluebird taxi to classic at 1600. Get hit on by mamasans as usual, fend them off, choose a table in about the right spot, order a bintang and start looking round. Can't see her. Difficulty finding right mamasan. Never actually saw where S's couch spot was on Saturday. Oh well. I have plenty of time. Oh shit! I hope my girl isn't being defiled by some other client! The thought hurts. After a few minutes someone seems to recognize S's name. Meanwhile I spot a gorgeous cutie whose appeared t the far end of a couch. If I need a backup plan I've found it, in fact maybe I should be hoping S has disappeared somehow becuase this cutie is drawing all my attention. A couple moments later the cutie moves and starts to look familiar. It IS S. I wasnt wrong, she is stunning! She had been hiding out in the restrooms until 1600, waiting for me to arrive. I'm falling in love, and take her for 3 hours. While waiting for drinks to arrive in the room I start to touch her, she shudders and she's dripping wet already. She either really really does like me, or she's a world class actor as well as super model. <skip gory details. Use your imaginations. I also used a viabrator ID brought along and it went well. About an hours worth of 69 . Cuddles. Sad good byes. 700 k tip for 3 hours. I get back into the club proper and offered a table marked 'reserved' by S's mamasan who fends off another mamsan for me so I can chill in peace and watch the dancers stumble through their routine. And, also from the first night comes over but I don't want to visit a room right now so I pay the fee for her to squirm around in my lap for a while. I spend a bit longer understanding how the system works. The mamasans are pretty chill once they know you, all except for one whose a touch crazy. The really pushy one who santed to make an early bird special and sell me 4 girls at once. I lie awake in bed that night weighing up missing my flight the next day, and moving to Jakarta. I want to take S, take her out of the club and put her through university, see her on weekends and snuggle up at nights watching TV. I want to hold her hand during longwalks on the beach. I'm in love and I know its stupid. I must break my phone, leave Jakarta today, and NOT return to classic ever again because I just can't get S out of my head. Like the Kylie Minogue song.

Classic info:

Entry. Free, but 40 k minimum spend.

Drinks:

Big bottle bintang 94000.

Ice coffee 28000.

Water 25000.

Pack of smokes 50000.

Cocktails = 140000 or something ridiculous, I foolishly let a girl order one not realizing.

Buy a Shot to grope a dance girl - 5000.

So not really expensive at all by international standards, apart from cocktails. It seems alcohol in general is expensive in Indonesia. There's no incentive for them to get you to order LDs except for their drinking pleasure, mama does the talking and she wants you to sell you a girl, not a drink.

Cost to have a girl sit with you for as long as you like at the table, OR to take her to a room for an hour: 365000 either way. She will squirm in your lap a little, and you can give her a squeeze but nothing too hands on. It would be great if I spoke Bahasa. Mileage is a bit crap for this if you don't speak it, but local guys seemed to enjoy spending time with the girls this way either at a table or on a couch. Google translate got me through all the encounters but its a bit too clumsy for this.

Your wristband number is used to keep count on your tab for the club. Its double checked at every stage, and you sign the chit for everything that goes on it, although the chits arnt priced. You do get an itemised bill when you go to cash up, and your wristband is exchanged for your exit ticket. No exit ticket, no exit. Or broken legs or something. Didn't want to test to find out. There's enough dudes who just hang around the place to ensure their security.

365000 gets handed in cash straight to mamasan for the girl. She will offer you the change. I figured that 70 baht could generously go to manasan as a gesture of a tip. Its not much.

Tip in room for girl goes straight to girl. I worked on 300 k being tip for good service, and it seemed to be positively received, so maybe 300 k is 'generous'. It seems from the comments I might have been larger than the average client so 300 k didn't seem out of place. Speaking of, I saw zero other white folks in the place over 3 nights. All were locals I believe, a mixture of age groups. I seemed equally as welcome as anyone else.

Tip: if you walk back through into the hotel proper, and then out their main entrance, there is a bluebird taxi on standby there, which is quick and handy. Bluebirds have cards to get through all the security gates etc, whereas commok gojek go-cars can't. You can order either a go-car or a bluebird using the gojek app, and the price is virtually the same. It costs nothing to get the app setup and you then pay cash to the driver. I installed it before I even got to Jakarta. BB taxi to airport came in at 180 k or thereabouts FYI.

Smoking- if you can tolerate it, you'll be OK. If you can't, don't go to Indonesia full stop. It must be the least 'smokefree' country in the world. Even the hotel lobby smelt vaguely like smoke. Or maybe that was my clothes after being in classic.

Excellent post!!

Just to add, I do recommend first timers to book the Classic hotel online during a rainy stay. There ain't nothing better than leaving your room, going down an elevator, walking across reception, riding up an escalator, and heading into floor 3/5 under the same roof during a storm. Upon entry, the only lit areas are the restrooms, girlie sofas, billiard tables, and main stage. The mamasans are so pushy that nobody will enjoy their dim lit table or walk the pussy perimeter peacefully. Alcoholic beverages are highly taxed for conservative reasons. And classic girls seem to really follow the "covered" rule. I did get one to surrender for BBFS but that's a long pricey story. On the other hand, I recommend Kota Indah and wherever the train track scene moved only for the adventure seekers. Barely legal tight cuties, fraction of the usual average cost, and BBFS straight up without mentioning a tip. I do overtip as long as the girl doesn't act like a starfish though. Even though I'm caucasian, I dress plain like a local, use simple words / body language, stay near safe groups, utilize the shadows at certain times, and etc. If a problem arises, then retreat. And lastly, I believe you can also bring the girl to your Classic hotel room with a little negotiation.

[Pppez80]

I think a lot of experienced mongers have moved on to discord. But not sure. Jakarta has always been mysteriously hard to get updated boots on the ground info on.

Do you have any discord channels worth joining?

[Sydpat]

I think a lot of experienced mongers have moved on to discord. But not sure. Jakarta has always been mysteriously hard to get updated boots on the ground info on.

I agree and seconded that, there are very few mongers from overseas are back to Jakarta, this is because flights are prohibitive expensive and country is just opened up. You are lucky you are already there but others will contribute once they reach the place and flight price get settled.

Currently if I want to fly to Jakarta it cost me 4 times then what I used to pay pre covid days, so waiting for more airline to operate and bring price down.

[Sydpat]

Why you want to pay her if she's not P4P and doesn't want money?

Yes 1 million idr per day.

The reason is they are poor but honest, if you pay them then they respect you and give you peace and also protect you against all local issues and language issue. They become your local guide and support you with all evantuality.

So its good to build good relationship, I am sure 1 mio idr will give you less then an hour with girls in your country so this small amount is worth.

[GentileBear]

I think a lot of experienced mongers have moved on to discord. But not sure. Jakarta has always been mysteriously hard to get updated boots on the ground info on.

[Rhind]

Hi Rhind, I tried sending you a DM, but to no avail. The site says you have chosen not to accept direct messages (Request if there is a way you can share details and democratize happiness.

I saw your disappointed recent post. Unfortunately I don't have subscription active anymore to reply to DM.

She goes by many Sonia on Tinder with a verified profile. You'll see a tick on her profile.

If I share number admin will delete the post.

I guess this is good enough info to find her on Tinder.

Happy hunting.

[MohdirFan82]

I am thinking about signing up for Badoo, Are you a paid member or free one?

Its from badoo.

Name: Alya.

Link: https://badoo.com/profile/0zAhMACjE4...DcJ9SJ5wp5YLuc.

[BabaLoda]

I am extremely disappointed in the forum now. There was a time when everyone was sharing with everyone and we all could enjoy. However over last few months, I am observing there are more and more leeches who just want information but do not want to share the goodness with others. Therefore, I have decided, I will now carry on my mongering in solitude and obscurity that this forum deserves. No more reviews and updates from my side.

God bless you all. Signing out.

BL.

[BabaLoda]

Its from badoo.

Name: Alya.

Link: https://badoo.com/profile/0zAhMACjE4...DcJ9SJ5wp5YLuc.

[Sammon]

At least a Million idr you should consider including all expenses paid.

It is approximately $64. Ofcourse all expenses will be paid by me. Thanks.

[Muzungufotsy]

I found a girl who I had met before covid. She was 23 then and now 26 and still willing to meet me at the airport and stay with me and travel to Yogyakarta and in effect whole trip of 5 days. Looks good with big boobs, slightly chubby but cute face. When I enquired about compensation said she will not be demanding because we are going on vacation. Not sure how much per day should I compensate. Trip is not till March. I know I might miss on some local talent. I doubt I will get get GFE from others. This one really wants to be with me. I will keep trolling but I do not want pretty stuck up girls.

Why you want to pay her if she's not P4P and doesn't want money?