Jakarta

[Menteng]

To Hilo and veterans in the Jakarta thread.

[Adindas]

According to this article, these organ traders are taking advantage of poor people, who are desperate and vulnerable. These Indonesians agreed to sell one of their kidneys for 135 million rupiah, because they had financial trouble and needed the money.

The organ traders only took kidneys from people who agreed to sell them. Representatives of the organ traders contacted these people in Indonesia. They were not tourists on holiday in Cambodia.

The article did not have any information about any risk to tourists visiting Cambodia.

Human trafficking in Indonesia is rather complicated. Some of these trafficked people have been lured, promised to be given good jobs in Thailand for the skills they have such as ITs, customer services, etc. They are transported from Indonesia using unconventional route to avoid detection. They were first transported to Thailand and then using land route to be transported further to either Cambodia or Myanmar.

Certainly the risk for tourists is small. But keep mind that this human organ trading is "A STATE SPONSORED" run by military juntas. It is not an ordinary criminal gang. The victim's kidneys are removed from a STATE OWNED hospital. Cambodia is a signatory of the World Health Assembly Resolution on Organ Trafficking and Transplant Tourism, which was adopted in 2008. The resolution prohibits the sale or purchase of human organs, as well as the advertising or solicitation of organ donors for commercial purposes. It also calls on countries to take measures to prevent and combat human organ trading. But who is the law in Cambodia, if there is any rather than Hun Sen. You might be interesting in finding out about Hun Sen family connection to Human organ trading in Cambodia.

Just hoping as a tourist you do not fall into the trap for a petty crime that will see you to get a jailed sentence, giving a reason for the evil people who are after huge profit to profit from you.

[United1]

Gents -.

Does any members have recent expereince to share about seeking? I am noticing that ladies are charging more for short-term PPM these days. Do you have any refefences points.

I have used Seeking in Jakarta in the past and had great expereinces. Before, most were charging 2-3 M for a 1-2 hour short term visit at my hotel. Some were free.

Now, women are quoting 4-5 M. Inflation? Just to note, I am a younger looking in mid-30's.

I am targeting for the slim, attractive girls in late 20's. Not girls that is 19-22 years old.

Not the actress--models--IG on this site that can easily go for 8-12 M with shady politicians or trip to Singapore or Dubai.

Welcome your inputs. I am sure its cheaper on Tinder. But for some reasons I like seeking platform. Very direct to point.

For those of you new to seeking, check out my previous posts on my expereinces with seeking in past 1-2 years.

Welcome your discussions.

[Marky1]

I've returned and found Classic much the same. Same prices more or less, similar quality, similar service levels which can vary from amazing to forgettable. Level 5 is finished though I always preferred having a few beers at level 5 then making my way to level 2.

At Pang-Jay Starmoon has had the fishbowl renovated and now much better and more open. I went there and Grand MTR.

For maximum value, take the KRL to Sawah Besar only 3 k rupiah, combine visit to Classic with steak at Jonisteak, then catch KRL to Jayakarta station (3 k rupiah again) then walk to Pang-Jay. Cheap night out.

[Gonz0]

https://apnews.com/article/indonesia...7b0779d393458b

According to this article, these organ traders are taking advantage of poor people, who are desperate and vulnerable. These Indonesians agreed to sell one of their kidneys for 135 million rupiah, because they had financial trouble and needed the money.

The organ traders only took kidneys from people who agreed to sell them. Representatives of the organ traders contacted these people in Indonesia. They were not tourists on holiday in Cambodia.

The article did not have any information about any risk to tourists visiting Cambodia.

[MohdirFan82]

Went there at 2 am.

Only one level was open.

The selection was mind blowing, pick up 19 year old.

She was okay but I guess too tired. Very tight and very accommodating.

Paid 600 k and left. Wish would have come earlier to check out other floors.

[Hilo77]

Literally or so to speak?

There are still a few bars there, but compared to the heyday -- back when you and I were hanging out there two or three times a week -- it's not even a ghost of its old self.

I can't think when the last time was that I went there, certainly before the pandemic.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Hahahaha. This is the funniest post I have read on ISG in a long time. I, and many others on the forum have been travelling to Cambodia for several years to together. Some have been living there for well over a decade and we have never ever come across any BS of this sort. Dangers lurk in many corner of cities in SEA, and probably in several other countries around the world. And a lot of that danger can be avoided by folowing some basic principles. But to generalise the matter and rule out an entire country is just paranoia.

https://apnews.com/article/indonesia...7b0779d393458b

[Blanquiceleste]

Yeep go to Cambodia if you want your kidney to be be removed and auctioned in the darkweb........

Hahahaha. This is the funniest post I have read on ISG in a long time. I, and many others on the forum have been travelling to Cambodia for several years to together. Some have been living there for well over a decade and we have never ever come across any BS of this sort. Dangers lurk in many corner of cities in SEA, and probably in several other countries around the world. And a lot of that danger can be avoided by folowing some basic principles. But to generalise the matter and rule out an entire country is just paranoia.

[Menteng]

Also gone are the Jl. Falatehan clubs, and ......................

Literally or so to speak?

[NRandom940]

Ah, there's a few old veterans still hanging around here who know exactly what you mean, but I think all those spots have gone by the wayside. Or perhaps we all just got old and have no idea where their equivalents are now.

Also gone are the Jl. Falatehan clubs, and for the even older geezers the Jl. Asmara karaoke joints.

Jakarta has gone upmarket these days, you'll notice a few changes.

Kings Cross was great when I went there in August 2022. Beautiful girls, $25 usd equivalent, don't even ask for a tip, super safe and business-like. No games.

[Hilo77]

I will be back in Jakarta for the first time in many years. I know places to party have mellowed since I was in my 30's fifteen years ago. Back then my mates and I had many fun nights at Stadium and Millie's. I am curious if here is anything like those old places now: dark, druggy, underground, anything goes, etc. If you were ever in Stadium or Millie's you know what I mean. I am hopeful some aspect clubs like that still exist.

Thank you.

Ah, there's a few old veterans still hanging around here who know exactly what you mean, but I think all those spots have gone by the wayside. Or perhaps we all just got old and have no idea where their equivalents are now.

Also gone are the Jl. Falatehan clubs, and for the even older geezers the Jl. Asmara karaoke joints.

Jakarta has gone upmarket these days, you'll notice a few changes.

[Pikefish]

I will be back in Jakarta for the first time in many years. I know places to party have mellowed since I was in my 30's fifteen years ago. Back then my mates and I had many fun nights at Stadium and Millie's. I am curious if here is anything like those old places now: dark, druggy, underground, anything goes, etc. If you were ever in Stadium or Millie's you know what I mean. I am hopeful some aspect clubs like that still exist.

Thank you.

[Goferring]

Gents -.

Whats best way to get GFE threesome in Jakarta. But not in brothels and working girls?

Have yous had luck on Tinder or Bumble, getting friends together?

I am a fan of Seeking when I travel to Jakarta. See my past reviews.

And every so often, I see a posting with 2 girls. But prices can be very high (I think in general, seeking is higher price).

Welcome any advices you have.

I rather to avoid going to a brothel or picking up girls fro BATS or such. Will be very mechanical I think. Rather do with two locals who are friendly with each others.

U1.

If brothels and bars are a hard no then your only other option is online. But remember that getting a civvie to bang her friend is very rare. Add in no working girls and you will really struggle.

For a sure thing, most of the hotel based operations offer a 2 girl option and you can clarify with mama exactly what that means for you and what you expect. Costs are surprisingly low.

Enjoy. G.

[Bule2004]

I am going out for Holidays but am not sure which one to choose, the traveling cost for me is high if I go to Bali, Lower if I go to Jalarta and Lowest if I go to Cambodia. So I'm confused where should I go for best mongering experience. I'm into Nuru massages which lead to the deed. And maybe also pickup girls from bar.

Jakarta is best, in my opinion, in terms of variety of cewek, prices and ambiance.

Bali never did it for me, and Cambodia has too small of a selection. Jakarta is highly populated.

Bule2004.