Jakarta

[BKKguru]

What Bend Over said. Locals call it PanJay ie. Kota Indah.

Yes, the formal street name is Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta.
Helps if you are dealing with a Bluebird driver.

Over the years, different short forms have come up: PanJay, PenJay, PJ etc.
They all refer to the *same* place.

~BKKguru

[Banana Boi]

Whats "Pen J".

What Bend Over said. Locals call it PanJay ie. Kota Indah.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

One of, if not the best fuck I ever had was with a cute, but not gorgeous Thai girl in Geylang, Singapore. That is correct, some of the less pretty ones will try harder. This chick was so awesome she rocked my world. Granted, she wasn't ugly by any definition, girl next door type. Nice big titties. I saw her at least 3 times, and every time she rimmed me like it was the end of the world. First porn like experience I ever had, with her licking my fingers like it was ice cream. And the DFK. It was sublime. Objectively, most of the hottest chicks I've fucked are just ok. The best p4 p's I've ever had were all ok looking, not ugly. But not gorgeous either. So I second all this. If you see an average looking chick and she seems eager, you might just have a winner there. All the hotness in the world isn't going to matter if she won't perform. But if she rocks your world, she can be a plain jane, you'll end up thinking she's the most beautiful chick ever.

Cool you were in Geylang. I lived in Singapore for nearly 15 years and had tremendous luck finding semi-pro or non-pro honeys there, mainly from Philippines, Thailand and Indonesia, my favorite flavor. One Indo girl ended up being my 'sex friend' as she was sort of a nympho and we banged on a regular basis for a couple of years before she returned to Batam for good.

[Newton York]

Good points on how to select a girl. I will just add that the girls that are not that pretty with the jacked up teeth are often the best shags in the whole place because they get fewer customers and appreciate someone taking a chance on them. :-the Some of my best lays in all of Asia were of that type. Total GFE. In contrast, I never, NEVER go with one who can't be arsed to even look up from her phone or just smiles but not really smiles, as you described.

One of, if not the best fuck I ever had was with a cute, but not gorgeous Thai girl in Geylang, Singapore. That is correct, some of the less pretty ones will try harder. This chick was so awesome she rocked my world. Granted, she wasn't ugly by any definition, girl next door type. Nice big titties. I saw her at least 3 times, and every time she rimmed me like it was the end of the world. First porn like experience I ever had, with her licking my fingers like it was ice cream. And the DFK. It was sublime. Objectively, most of the hottest chicks I've fucked are just ok. The best p4 p's I've ever had were all ok looking, not ugly. But not gorgeous either. So I second all this. If you see an average looking chick and she seems eager, you might just have a winner there. All the hotness in the world isn't going to matter if she won't perform. But if she rocks your world, she can be a plain jane, you'll end up thinking she's the most beautiful chick ever.

[Zippos]

Definitely a great news. It's been a while since I set my foot in Travel but definitely more reason to check it out on my upcoming trip.

On a side note, I heard Bfashion club and spa is closed. No sure how reliable is that! Any idea G or anyone else?

Whats "Pen J".

Travel introducing three-fer deals is a new one and welcome. Especially if it includes multiple pops. Previously it was multiple girls but one and done pops.

A good report.

Thanks. G.

[BenderOver]

Whats "Pen J".

Travel introducing three-fer deals is a new one and welcome. Especially if it includes multiple pops. Previously it was multiple girls but one and done pops.

A good report.

Thanks. G.

Probably Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta.

[Goferring]

Day 1- 3/8.

I didn't get in until about 730 pm. I didn't get to the bars off Pen. J until about 10 pm ....

Whats "Pen J".

Travel introducing three-fer deals is a new one and welcome. Especially if it includes multiple pops. Previously it was multiple girls but one and done pops.

A good report.

Thanks. G.

[BrockStar]

Day 1- 3/8.

I didn't get in until about 730 pm. I didn't get to the bars off Pen. J until about 10 pm and they were all pretty busy so I didn't bother. I normally hit these places, along w / Travel Hotel, Classic in the early afternoon when there are hardly any customers. So day 1 nothing happened aside from getting drunk. *.

Day 2- 3/9.

I arrived at the Travel Hotel at around 130 pm and a mamasan grabbed me by the wrist, had me sit on one of the couches and brought out about a half dozen*women to choose from. She showed me on a piece of cardboard what the prices were; 1-375 K, 2-500 AND 3- 730 K (the option for 3 women was a new one for me! I chose two gals; one was busty and kinda tall for an Indo gal and the other was a complete spinner, both of them' were 19 and didn't speak English. They were both a lot of fun. The spinner is the one that took the initial shower with me and she's the one who blew me first while I enjoyed the other one's tits. After what felt like about 10 minutes of that I couldn't take anymore and took it out on the spinner- doggy style!

This time around the busty one washed me down and of course I groped them titties the whole time. Then I got back on the bed and the busty one blew me, while the other went up top. I didn't wait too long this time around to get inside the busty one, but of course it took me a bit longer to finish round 2. After I finished we laid there naked for another 10 minutes or so, before we got up, showered one last time and split. I gave each gal 50 K for a tip. Great experience overall. *.

Later on at around 7 pm I decided to check out the bars off Pen. J and this time around I popped a sildenafil tablet. I walked in and out the* bars just checking to see what was available until I got to Royal and a busty gal smiled at me and something told me it'd be in my best interest to take her so I did!

Mama quoted me 400 K, I paid and upstairs we went. This gal was even funner than the two I had before. That smile she gave me downstairs felt pretty genuine and she backed it up starting off w / a 10 minute bbj, after motor-boating her tits for a while I got on her down on her back, but she sat back up and continued to blow me so I figured I'd let her do her thing for a bit longer and then went to town. I did her missionary*and she got really into it so I didn't last very long, even though I was on a boner pill. Of course, my boner didn't subside any so I figured why not enjoy a beer downstairs and have her sit w / me. She nursed a beer for quite some time while snuggling up next to me the whole time, which was quite nice. *.

After that I headed off to Starmoon for another beer and checked out the talent. Of all the bars they had the most talent, or at least that was my perception. So for as big of a bust as day 1 was, day 2 was everything I hoped it would be. *.

Day 3- 3/10.

I was so impressed by the thought of having 3 chicks at once I was certain that's what I'd get this time around at Travel Hotel. I arrived at around 3 pm and to my dismay there were a good number of Chinese already there (most definitely from the mainland) and so I went a minute or so before a mamasan came up to me. She presented me w /2 spinners; one was 19 the other 20, neither would've been my first choice, but I was horny so I said they'll do. We went up and it was pretty much the same experience as the first time around, but the women were in a bit more of a rush and a lot more mercenary. I'm not complaining though, they got the job done and after a 50 K tip for each, it's still only 600 K for a 3-some w / two do-able, childless, slender, submissive women. That being said. It was definitely the worst 3-some I've ever had in Jakarta. *.

After that I was pretty spent in regards to sex, but I did go out to the bars again and drank a few. I didn't hit Blok M this time around. The last time I was in Jakarta was in 2019 and it was a sad shell of what it was the first time I'd been there in 2014. I stayed just across the street from the Pen. J bars so I simply wasn't in the mood to ride down there this time around. *.

I flew out the next day and had no issues getting to the airport. I must say having Grab available in Jakarta sure makes getting around town a lot easier, not having to haggle w / another Indonesian taxi driver I consider to be a good thing. The requirement of downloading a phone app in order to get a sim card is a bit more intrusive than I prefer so I didn't bother getting one (like I had before that mandate). Jakarta is still the best in regards to bang for your buck and the locals are insanely nice, but it's not a city I'd recommend*to just anyone. *.

[Irish Mongrel]

I read so many forums and sites that I often forgot where I read something.

Question: (I think I read somewhere) that Jakarta is the best place in SEA for a GFE. Meaning DFK, BBBJ, etc. Or is this Indonesia in general?

Obviously if you paid any girl enough money she would stand on one leg and bark like a dog but "generally" thinking is Jakarta the best place.

Appreciate experienced BM feedback.

NI.

Never been to places like Classic so can't talk for them, but the ladies I have picked up from clubs or through Tinder have tended to give excellent GFE experiences. Always been BBBJ and repeats just got better with each additional sessions, although some got very clingy if you repeat too much! The only ones that have asked me for a condom during sex are ones that I have known to have had bule boyfriends and didn't want to ruin that relationship (had a couple of those.).

[Zippos]

Truth to be told, Indonesian girls still has some passion left compared to other SEA. You get them wind up enough, they will pretty much do anything considering you bring them up to their comfort zone. I have never had any Indon cewek refused BBBJ and DFK. Whether it's at Classic, KC, Emporium or non-pro off dating sites.

For pros, I usually wave the money and clarify saying, "You make me happy and it's yours" money does rest of the talking. Next thing you see is that little genie bottle of listening appearing from the bag and you to are rinsing the hell out of your mouth.

For non-pro, obviously you need to give them the impression that she could be a potential candidate for future GF / relationship or something.

I read so many forums and sites that I often forgot where I read something.

Question: (I think I read somewhere) that Jakarta is the best place in SEA for a GFE. Meaning DFK, BBBJ, etc. Or is this Indonesia in general?

Obviously if you paid any girl enough money she would stand on one leg and bark like a dog but "generally" thinking is Jakarta the best place.

Appreciate experienced BM feedback.

NI.

[Margaya]

Very valid points in these replies. Thanks a bunch.

Before confirming the girl tell / ask mama what you want and make sure she passes on the message to the girl and gets her nod of approval. Not all girls will perform all services, share with mama what you want like BBBJ, DFK, CIM so you have the best experience, a common practice enjoyed by punters, best of luck!

Good points on how to select a girl. I will just add that the girls that are not that pretty with the jacked up teeth are often the best shags in the whole place because they get fewer customers and appreciate someone taking a chance on them. :-the Some of my best lays in all of Asia were of that type. Total GFE. In contrast, I never, NEVER go with one who can't be arsed to even look up from her phone or just smiles but not really smiles, as you described.

I tried this approach and it seldom works. First, the music is so loud that you can barely hear each other even if you're able to speak in bahasa Indo. Second, the MMS can get pushy by getting you into the "Do you want to buy a drink or go upstairs?" situation. And even if you do, the most you'll get out of them is the MMS saying "No baby, good service" as it seems those are always the 4 english words she knows regardless of who she's pointing the laser at and the girl always nods.

The only advice is that when she's not delivering what you want, you just be a gent and be a touch playful. Tell her that you're sad because it's difficult for you to enjoy (this works much better if you learn this phrase in bahasa Indo). The only good thing that can happen at this point is that she replies to you "You tip more?" and she hits you with a 400 k to 500 k request. From there, it's your negotiating skills and really, USD $6. 50 isn't worth my time to lose a good nut. If all else fails, strap on your clothes, drop a 50 k note, and go back to the lounge to look for another girl. Pay the 400 k again and don't sweat it. Really if the USD $26 is a lot, not too sure how to change one's outlook.

Time and time again, the worst decision to be made is to have a session you're not into, blow your load, and then not be horny for the next 12 hours and yet not have had an explosive good time, all because you're worried about saving the fee. Sorry, a good nut is worth more than that to me.

Edit: I read someone else's follow up post about the girls impression, and was reminded that this is also key. When you get the line up, the first thing most guys do is look at the face and body looking for what attracts them. Many times, up in the room, the face ends up losing a point or more because in the light, she's not that pretty or her teeth are jacked up. Many times, up in the room, the body ends up losing a point or more because when the clothes come off, she turns out not to be an 18 year old 90 pound spinner but is really a 24 year old 110 flab hider. But I've found also that the magic in a good time and great service girl is in the line up, looking for the girl that's eye to eye looking at you with a beaming smile. I mean a really radiant smile, nothing like the smile the girls have just to look pretty. The one where she's really really smiling at you and eyes are locked on you, not looking away. Pick that one. Hopefully, you'll find one that's got all three, beautiful face, incredible body, and eye to eye smile on you.

The worst service, almost guaranteed bad time, are the girls that are on their phones not even bothering to look up at you. Those hotties are trouble. They'll burn through your allowance for the night or be expensive on their extra tip ask.

[Zippos]

I've been mongering in Jakarta over a decade and safe to say, these two are severely infected with golden pussy syndrome. If it was one of those insta model or the new trend of Jakarta bouncing titties dj's. I would probably negotiate for 20 m for a week but that too even high.

If you really want shag same glory hole for a week, try your luck with tinder or resort to Cupid. Trust me, you won't regret.

Alternatively, check out one of those entertainment establishment, find the one you fancy and tell Mami you want her for a week, still going to be less than 40 mil.

Two girls I've messaged that stated 40 M a month.

[NewImage]

I read so many forums and sites that I often forgot where I read something.

Question: (I think I read somewhere) that Jakarta is the best place in SEA for a GFE. Meaning DFK, BBBJ, etc. Or is this Indonesia in general?

Obviously if you paid any girl enough money she would stand on one leg and bark like a dog but "generally" thinking is Jakarta the best place.

Appreciate experienced BM feedback.

NI.

[SuperLove]

Great comparison smoothy. My take, world has moved changes alot and what you got 20 years ago you may not get now, and what you get now will be different from what you will get 20 years from now. (if we are still alive, LOL) . Commerce has taken over and girls focus less on service & customer loyalty.

I went to BATS Friday night and CJs Saturday night. BATS was like a reunion of girls I knew 20 years ago. Haha. It's amazing those same girls are still going at it.

Bit titty Putri was there, and I hadn't seen her in over 10 years. The last time I took her (10 years ago), she copped an attitude when I got her home and was a crap shag that night so I deleted her phone number. But 20 years ago, she was a young stunner dancing on top of the LE Meridien bar table tops. Crazy as hell and wild in bed. She would shag all night back then. Then in the morning give a blow job while talking to her boyfriend on her cell phone. She thought that was hilarious. And I didn't mind it. Although she still has the big tits, they are saggier now and her body is like 3 times the size as it was back in the day. She went home alone. Glory days have passed her by. I certainly wasn't interested in her or any other girl in BATS that night. I didn't see any that I would have taken home even for 500 k.

CJs was a different story. I was shocked at the quality there last night. There were, of course, the same old group of 5 out of 10 rated girls there (with a few 6's). But other than those mediocre ladies, I haven't seen that many stunners in CJs in a very long time. There were 4 stunners in there. That's as many as I have seen in CJs. Ever. 2 of them I would rate as 9's (I have never seen a 10 in Indonesia). 9 is a true stunner. There was one girl I couldn't take my eyes off of. What a true beauty. Unfortunately, I had brought a date with me and couldn't take my shot. I am a gentleman, after all. But I have no doubt those girls were going to ask for at least 3 million. It's very hard to find that quality in Jakarta. I'm not saying CJs will be like that again any time soon, but that night had some real talent. One thing I will mention is I didn't see any of those girls going home with any guy. They were completely ignoring the Indian guys who approached them. And only 1 of them stayed more than a half hour. The other 3 came in together and all left together after a short look around. When I walked by them though, they did give me positive gestures. I would have been curious how I would have fared. The one true beauty, I may have even been tempted to actually go 3 million. I can't believe I am saying that. Other than those 4 girls, the others didn't deserve more than 800 k, but since they paid 200 k for an entry drink, I guess 1 juta is fair. (In my humble opinion.) But it's all about the experience.

[SuperLove]

Before confirming the girl tell / ask mama what you want and make sure she passes on the message to the girl and gets her nod of approval. Not all girls will perform all services, share with mama what you want like BBBJ, DFK, CIM so you have the best experience, a common practice enjoyed by punters, best of luck!

Overall I love this place. Very convenient, decent and stocked well. The quality is a bit lacking but that is everywhere in the world now a days.

One thing I could not figure out if it is possible to approach girl you like, directly, and ask her about services or must haves such as DFK etc. The first girl I had was a dud, provided express service of 20 minutes and truth be told, I just wanted to get the deed done as I was pissed off at her lack of interest in service. The others were fantastic even though langage was a barrier.

So, can someone please advise me how you go about scoping out the best girl for your requirements? Do you talk to them or let those pushy mamasans do the talking?