Jakarta

[Smoothy]

Monger, I've never been to Puri Sehat. However, your story sounds almost exactly like what happened to me the one and only time I ever visited Tropical spa. I won't be back to Tropical, and it sounds like I should avoid Puri Sehat as well. There are many good places in town that are well run by good management, so I'm not about to visit places that pull that kind of crap.

[Mongerxx]

Well as someone who has RTFF it's pretty obvious that Oyenk has a bone to pick with Tropical spa and tends to pimp Puri Sehat. Personally, I found Oyenk's attack on a new poster's report baseless.

I gotta say my personal experiences with the manager at Puri Sehat have left me less than impressed. On my first visit I went with a local friend of mine. I had a very good session with #28 in a VIP room. As I was showering we got the phone call warning time was up. I said no extension, and my girl informed them we were washing up and would be out shortly. After dressing and going to the counter to settle up, my friend was already waiting.

He was pissed off because the shorted him on time with a call to leave the room while there was 20 minutes still left (these were 90 minute sessions.) But the news was about to get worst. First, I get my bill in which I was charged for an extra session. I questioned why I was being charged a third session when I explicitly said no extension. Then my local friend also got billed for the extra session and he was kicked out of the room early! After getting no where with the staff we asked the manager to come out.

Dedy, came out and proceeded to show me, on my billing slip that difference between my check and check out time was 97 minutes. I was a little miffed, as I have never been charged anywhere else for an extra session when I refused and was already in the shower. He said I should have left immediately and finished my shower downstairs in the locker room.... Asshole, but there was a technicality, So I took my medicine.

But for my friend it was worse. He showed Dedy that the difference between his check in and check out time was only 72 minutes! Of course, Dedy's response was to do the Indo smile and mumble bullshit that this was something he couldn't change. This was an absolute ripoff and ridiculous that Dedy didn't change that bill.

Another time I went there with another westerner. I asked Dedy to help pick a couple girls for us, and to make sure the girls were ok with providing ++ service to the bules. The girls agreed bfore we went to the room, then in the room the girls changed their tunes and refused ++ service. Of course, complaints to Dedy fell on deaf ears. This guy is not customer friendly and a poor manager IMHO. FYI, I speak decent Bahasa and language was not a problem. There are some great girls here, but this place has lost a lot of potential steady biz from this customer. Believe me there are plenty of similar venues where you will get better treatment.

Let's not so quickly silent reports of negative experiences venues which are favored by the more frequent posters.

[Mighty Spearsman]

I wonder you have "very strong" interest in Puri Sehat and protecting its image- the way I can look at your repeated messages.

Any specific interest / stake in that spa? ha ha ha Just kidding, sorry

A newbie with only 6 posts that contain very little useful information, challenging a highly-respected Senior Member with 467 posts - unbelievable!

[Aakumu]

Hi Chaps,

Just after a bit of info, as I trawled throught the search function and didn't really get what I was looking for.

I've been away for a while and a bit out of touch with the scene here. I'm looking for a place where Indo Chinese are a sure bet. When I read the previous posts, it always talks about massage places and spa's.

I'm just looking for a club/bar where there are FL in plentyfull amounts, but, and this maybe my problem, I only operate between Blok M and Sarinah, and again, all the posts talk about Kota, mangga Dua etc.

So, in short, looking for a watering hole South of monas where indo Chinese are a cert.

BTW, one further point. Has the scene changed somewhat, as I was in Le meridian a few saturdays weeks ago and the girls there don't seem so full on nowadays. Years back it was talk talk talk of getting out of there and the price, nowadays it seems more cagey and suitble.

I will write a report on Siska from Park Lane in the comming days

Cheers

Hi bro,

If you are looking for indo chinese, you should try the disco and clubs in the kota area.

If you need more info, feel free to contact through PM.

My humble two cents.

[Aakumu]

What I meant was when I was returning from 2nd floor after the massage session, he was not found on the first floor (where the rooms / girld are allocated)

I also didnt have patience to wait for him!

Its upto you to consider it as a scam! Doesnt affect me again! ha ha ha

Why dont you check with Hedy, if you are so curious! ha ha

Bro playboy2001 with all due respect to you, he has nothing with the venues, just a regular there but not he is not even in Jakarta, some where in Europe.

My humble two cents.

[Abbnat]

Hi Chaps,

Just after a bit of info, as I trawled throught the search function and didn't really get what I was looking for.

I've been away for a while and a bit out of touch with the scene here. I'm looking for a place where Indo Chinese are a sure bet. When I read the previous posts, it always talks about massage places and spa's.

I'm just looking for a club/bar where there are FL in plentyfull amounts, but, and this maybe my problem, I only operate between Blok M and Sarinah, and again, all the posts talk about Kota, mangga Dua etc.

So, in short, looking for a watering hole South of monas where indo Chinese are a cert.

BTW, one further point. Has the scene changed somewhat, as I was in Le meridian a few saturdays weeks ago and the girls there don't seem so full on nowadays. Years back it was talk talk talk of getting out of there and the price, nowadays it seems more cagey and suitble.

I will write a report on Siska from Park Lane in the comming days

Cheers

[Playboy2001]

Dedi was not there?

but in your post you said that Dedi choosed number 65 for you!

You talked to Dedi through telephone or what? Hahaha.

Here is your post!

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=2709

I am confused what to say!

Since you have lied to this forum, I will directly report your posts as scammer !

I wonder you have "very strong" interest in Puri Sehat and protecting its image- the way I can look at your repeated messages.

Any specific interest / stake in that spa? ha ha ha Just kidding, sorry

[Playboy2001]

Dedi was not there?

but in your post you said that Dedi choosed number 65 for you!

You talked to Dedi through telephone or what? Hahaha.

Here is your post!

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=2709

I am confused what to say!

Since you have lied to this forum, I will directly report your posts as scammer !

What I meant was when I was returning from 2nd floor after the massage session, he was not found on the first floor (where the rooms / girld are allocated)

I also didnt have patience to wait for him!

Its upto you to consider it as a scam! Doesnt affect me again! ha ha ha

Why dont you check with Hedy, if you are so curious! ha ha

[Aakumu]

The comment was mine not Aakumu's (Aakumu is yet to get the hang of posting comments to quotes) and was prompted by his remark that I had quoted.

However, since Dorman has responded and said that it was prompted by sense of hurt and was not meant to be arrogant, I think the matter can now be allowed to rest.

Hi bro,

Sorry for the confusion, I will try to be better with to quoting of the your posting.
Once again, so sorry.

My humble two cents.

[Memekman]

Sorry for my late comment, but I respectfully disagree with Aakumu.

From what little I know of Dorman, he is not an arrogant type at all. I took his comments to be more innocent that Aakumu apparently did, Dorman's view was not superiority but rather equality.

The comment was mine not Aakumu's (Aakumu is yet to get the hang of posting comments to quotes) and was prompted by his remark that I had quoted.

However, since Dorman has responded and said that it was prompted by sense of hurt and was not meant to be arrogant, I think the matter can now be allowed to rest.

[Oyenk]

I was looking for Dedi, he was not there.

Its up to you to believe me or not. What am I going to gain anything by quoting false statements in this forum?

It is a truth that she wanted 500k and then came down to 300K (have a look at my report again)

Since I have not lied in my posts, your comment doesn't affect me ..

Just for your info;

In local forum, I ever caught a very senior moderator from leading local forum was using different nickname in rising up local forum...and this happened 2 times. I just hope he's not angry with me...
I forced him to admit that it was him, but until now he never did that hehehe.

[Oyenk]

I was looking for Dedi, he was not there.

Its up to you to believe me or not. What am I going to gain anything by quoting false statements in this forum?

Dedi was not there ?
but in your post you said that Dedi choosed number 65 for you !!!
You talked to Dedi through telephone or what ? hahaha...

here is your post !
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=2709

I am confused what to say !

Since you have lied to this forum, I will directly report your posts as scammer !

[Playboy2001]

You should report to Dedi directly about this !, tip FJ for 500,000 rupiahs ? ck ck ck.

The relation between me and Dedi just friend...I do not take any advantage not even a rupiah cent by posting his spa or their spa's group.

But somehow I believe you lied about your two posts ! there are many shills in this forum...

sorry about my comment !

I was looking for Dedi, he was not there.

Its up to you to believe me or not. What am I going to gain anything by quoting false statements in this forum?

It is a truth that she wanted 500k and then came down to 300K (have a look at my report again)

Since I have not lied in my posts, your comment doesn't affect me ..

[Playboy2001]

nice report,

but you should have told the viewers here that massage was done in standart room !

---she wanted 200k for fj (though the place is not suitable for fj), but gave 50k tip for hj---
i believe they/ tropical therapists want tip for fj around 350,000 rupiahs !

so freelance package now around 415,000 rupiahs. the therapists usually beg tip for hj or ask us to do fj !

that true, if you read my fr, i have told that it was done in a different room. it was indeed a standard room with only curtains! i was asking her how much for fj, the she quoted 200k. hj is definitely for 50k.

[Mighty Spearsman]

... there is a hint of 'bule' arrogance in Dorman's statement that 'I had more than enough cash to enjoy an evening that some of the local clientèle could only dream of' which implies that the colour of his money (and his skin) was better than that of the local customers....

Sorry for my late comment, but I respectfully disagree with Aakumu.

From what little I know of Dorman, he is not an arrogant type at all. I took his comments to be more innocent that Aakumu apparently did, Dorman's view was not superiority but rather equality.

I do agree with Smoothy's comments:

The simple fact is that there are girls in Jakarta who don't feel comfortable going with Bules. Places that cater mostly to locals will have girls like that. Many times they are scared that bule's penises are too big or that they won't be able to communicate due to the language barrier.

I've had girls at many knock shops in north jakarta not want to go with me because I'm a bule. I find that if they are not up for it, it's best to forget about them and find one who does want to be with me. The service provided will be far better if the girl has a good attitude. I get disappointed sometimes when the girls are hot and don't want to go with me, but I can understand. The girls of this type are normally uneducated kampung girls who don't know much about anything other than their sheltered life. I imagine a bule is practically an alien from another world as far as they are concerned. LOL!...

...(however) there are plenty of places in Jakarta where the girls actually prefer the bules to the locals. Let's face it, a bule has a good life in Jakarta!

as the reality is just that, some girls are terrified of having a session with a "bule."

I have come across a few instances where a girl in an MP was reluctant to be with me. Usually this can be overcome by having a 2-girl session, where the scared girl is paired with a girl who's comfortable with foreigners. An example of this was in recent June at Kartika, where I had a 2-girl session with the famous Cindy (who loves to be with foreigners) and Neneng, who had never been with a foreigner before. After some initial shyness, Neneng opened up and was fun to be with, and I've since had a 1-girl session with her that was one of the best sessions I've ever had at Kartika. Had she not first been with me in the 2-girl session, I'm sure that Neneng would have refused to go upstairs with me in a one-girl session.

Having said that, I was recently refused by one of the new girls at Kartika, which was a first for me at that place as I'm well known as one of their best customers, someone who is a decent tipper and not a troublemaker. She's only 20, somewhat overweight but great tits, nice hair, looks more Turkish than Indonesian. She absolutely refused to go with me under any circumstances (1-girl, 2-girl, even 3-girl, even the promise of a larger-than-normal tip). Nothing personal, she simply was not comfortable being with any foreigner. So, no problem, I ended up leaving Kartika and having a session at Berlian with another favorite, Inna. As Smoothy pointed out, the Turkish-looking girl probably would have provided lousy service if she had been forced to go with me, so I'm better off to not push it.