Jakarta

[Mighty Spearsman]

I am planning a short trip to Jakarta this month. Can I request the seasoned mongers of Jakarta to pm me a couple of contact numbers for ordering massage 'room service'? Thanks in advance....

Traveler1234 and Bulai69, two of our most experienced posters, have both given you similar advice, which is to forget about outcall 'room service' and to instead visit one of the famous pick-up spots in Jakarta.

I agree with both T1234 and B69 and would like to also state the obvious - to make things as easy and as fast as possible, stay at one of the hotels where the hot spots are, go downstairs to the bar, choose a girl and bring her upstairs, all in 5 to 10 minutes without ever leaving your hotel or even stepping outside.

In case you haven't figured it out already, three hot spots where a non-Indonesian visitor to Jakarta can easily pick up a girl are: CJ's bar in the Hotel Mulia, the BATS bar at the Shangri-La Hotel, and the 30 Bar (aka "Tiga Puluh bar") at the Le Meridien Hotel. If you're on a tight budget, the first two hotels are a bit pricey, but you should be able to get a room at Le Meridien Hotel for under US $100 a night.

In return for this info, two items:
(1) please don't overpay! Many girls may start by asking for 1 million rupiah or even more, but the going price for short-term is 300,000 - 4000,000 and an all nighter should cost no more than 600,000 rupiah.
(2) I look forward to reading your trip report soon!

[Mongerxx]

I'd appreciate thoughts backed with experiences only. I want to hear from those with first hand knowledge in such matters, particularly in JKT.

I would say there is less than 10% chance she is telling the truth. Several things lead to my estimate. First off, most hospitals in Indonesia are not going to provide any services unless they are 100% sure they will get paid. That almost always means payment up front. If you proceed I would insist that you pay the hospital directly through a bank transfer, any hospital or doctor will gladly provide you an invoice and bank transfer details. If she squirms at this request she is probably lying. Also, in reality you barely kow this girl. You have spent precious little time together and its sounds like you lack even the most simple common language.

While the indo girls, especially the brothel ones, appear to be less mercenary than their sisters in LOS, PI, China, etc..., the primary objective is to extract money from guys to help their families, boyfriends, and drughabits. Also, these girls have a great support system of other girls who gladly provide them the advice on how to push their customer buttons. One thing is true amongst working girls everywhere is duplicity.

I don't want to sound so jaded and cynical. In most likelihood this girl probably has lots of affection for you, sincerely likes you, and hopes that you will become the one to take care of her and her responsibilities. But her life circumstances and perspectives are way different than yours. She doesn't have the luxury of playing relationship games of testing one another, contemplating the sincerity of the others actions, and etc.. She really is poor and her extended family really is putting the squeeze on her all the time for help. That's why she is still getting cream-pied at least several times a day from guys you would probably be weary to shake hands with, let alone ISG'ers. She is probably very desparate to find another way, and she is very young and probably as desparate for love and affection.

If you step up and decide to support her (especially at the over the top levels your tipping behavior suggests) in the short run she will work extremely hard to make you happy and make it work. Of course in the long run you will find out if there is true compatibility. Personally, I hope you commit to Madeline and devote youself to her.

Why? IMHO you grossly negligent tipping behavior hurts me and the members of this community. By tipping like this you are really pissing in the well and fucking things up for us. Personally, I hate the experience when girls complain to me, but "other foreigners tip me 300, 400, 500 and sometime 600K" I tell them those are stupid foreigners who don't speak bhasa Indonesia nor know the usual prices. Hey it's your money and spend it as you wish. But it's guys like you who fuck up scenes and that persuade me from contributing information about my experiences. I don't care if you drop a load in my favorites memek, but I rather not have you undermining me and others. So please do us ALL a favor, marry this girl and improve all of our positions.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Ok. So after speaking with JAKARTA AFTER DARK on the phone today, he advised me to post here to seek other opinions. Any input from those with similar experiences would be appreciated.

So during my 2 weeks of 'meeting' the dozens of women of Jakarta, I met about 3 girls that really took a liking to me, and of whom I also grew very fond. I visited each of them more than once and booked each for at least 1 overnighter subsequent to the in house sessions. Which says a lot. But one of these girls, who we will refer to as Madeline, really got to me.

I met 20yo, 95lbs, Madeline in Bordello that shall remain un-named (as I don't want all you fuckers to try and find my cutie pop a load in her, haha). One of the reasons I liked this girl is that after my first in-house session with her (300K IDR) I tipped her and additional 300K IDR for her efforts. Usually after the girls get over the amazement of how I tip, just get a BIG smile and happy, but this one was different. She actually looked at me confused and tried to give it back to me as if to say it was too much. When I said it was OK, and made her keep it, she really looked thankful but conflicted about the amount like she had never received such a tip before. This was the first reason that I particularly liked this one.

During my overnighter with her we spent the time trying to communicate and learn each other's language using my pocket translator. We genuinely had a good time getting to know one another between the 3 pops I got in. The 'relationship' evolved to the point, where on my trip out to the airport, I even stopped by the Bordello to say goodbye. She had thought that she wouldn't see me again. When she did see me she just ran over, began hugging me, and started crying a river in front of everyone. Despite my age and youthful appearance, I've been mongering for over 15 years and that day. Man, she melted my heart like no pro had ever been able to before. She cried so much she was attached to me for about 20 minutes in front of everyone, which I think really pissed off her momma.

So anyway, fast forward several weeks and to make a long story short, she and I correspond almost daily by SMS. At first there were only expressions of love and affection. Then her father got sick. She said he recovered, but abruptly a week or so later she stated that he was back in the hospital. She actually left the Bordello during that time and returned to her hometown to help her family. I actually believe everything up to and including her father's recovery.

But what I have an issue with is the 2nd hospital stay, as this is when her SMS messages began to have a tone of sadness and desperation. After several days of messages, it finally came out that they didn't have enough money for his necessary hospital bills and medicine. So this is where it gets interesting.

So here is my dilemma. I have a Bordello girl, who's contract ends in October of 2008, and that I am very fond of and intend to see many times again, in need of my assistance. Her handler turned down her request for additional funds to be added to her contract obligations, so she has no alternative source for her father's 'medical costs'.

Do I send her $$$ and just consider it a good deed done as my charitable donation for the year, for the outside chance that her request is legitimate, knowing full well that it could be a scam? I can easily afford the amount she requested, and am considering it. For if there is even a 10% chance her situation is legit I'd like to help her.

One thing that bothers me is that I asked her to send me her full name from her KTP (gov't ID card) but she stated that she didn't have one yet. I know than many in the underground economy don't have such documents but I thought that all bordello girls had to have this card? JAD any insight on this?

I'd appreciate thoughts backed with experiences only. I want to hear from those with first hand knowledge in such matters, particularly in JKT.

And please. No useless comments from the peanut gallery as I am very aware of how it may appear to a 3rd party and in addition I probably have more mongering experience than most of those that usually offer useless comments.

Some sympathetic random thoughts:

- sorry to say, but your quote that there's only a 10 per cent chance that the story of the father's illness is true is probably right on the money. What has happened to you is a familiar pattern, to treat you nicely at first, then go for a big hit of money. Unfortunately, many of the girls we run across are great actresses and mercenaries.

- if the story about the father is true, remember that your lady friend is not the only source of funds to pay for his treatment. Presumably her father has other children, his own brothers, sisters, cousins, etc. who can contribute to paying his health care, regardless of whether or not your girl had ever met you or not.

- even if the story is true, there may not be much point in sending any money if the father is both very old and seriously ill. Sounds cruel, but true. By the way, how old is the father? Don't assume he's 20 years older than his daughter, he could easily be 75 or 80 years old.

- if you wish to give an amount that's affordable to you, say 1 million or 2 million, that amount would be most appreciated if the story is true, and if it's not, then you haven't lost that much money. If you give money, presumably the girl will reward you with an extra-enthusiastic bonking next time you're in town; on the other hand, she might also ask you yet again for more money, claiming that her father has recovered but now the mother/sister/brother is ill and needs surgery.

- for what it's worth, my favorite girl from Kartika, Cynthia, became ill with some sort of stomach illness and went back to her village in June, 2007. I knew that she was truly ill and that it was not a scam, although I ndid not know that her illness was very serious. After receiving a few sms appeals, I sent her 1 million rupiah in July and another 1 million rupiah in August. I then ignored a further appeal for money from her, then the sms messages stopped in September (no more pulsa on her cell phone).

Two months later, in November, Cynthia died. Would she still be alive today if I had continued to send her money? Hard to tell, and obviously I'll never know for sure, but considering the terrible Indonesian health care system, she probably would have still died even if I had sent more money, unless I was willing to fork out the money to fly her to Singapore and receive proper medical treatment.

Bottom line? it's up to you, but if you want to make yourself feel better, I'd recommend you donate a relatively small amount, say 1 million, and see what happens. Good luck!

[Traveler1234]

I am planning a short trip to Jakarta this month. Can I request the seasoned mongers of Jakarta to pm me a couple of contact numbers for ordering massage 'room service'? Thanks in advance....

I would suggest, as others have, to hit Blok M and pick your own. You can literally walk in, nod to the interested party and head back to your room in minutes. After a couple of these encounters, you'll have a personal rolodex of numbers.

Or try BATS at the Shang, etc. Same modus operandi. You'll save a ton of rupiah and most important see what you're getting.

POV

[Scooter Pie]

Ok. So after speaking with JAKARTA AFTER DARK on the phone today, he advised me to post here to seek other opinions. Any input from those with similar experiences would be appreciated.

So during my 2 weeks of 'meeting' the dozens of women of Jakarta, I met about 3 girls that really took a liking to me, and of whom I also grew very fond. I visited each of them more than once and booked each for at least 1 overnighter subsequent to the in house sessions. Which says a lot. But one of these girls, who we will refer to as Madeline, really got to me.

I met 20yo, 95lbs, Madeline in Bordello that shall remain un-named (as I don't want all you fuckers to try and find my cutie pop a load in her, haha). One of the reasons I liked this girl is that after my first in-house session with her (300K IDR) I tipped her and additional 300K IDR for her efforts. Usually after the girls get over the amazement of how I tip, just get a BIG smile and happy, but this one was different. She actually looked at me confused and tried to give it back to me as if to say it was too much. When I said it was OK, and made her keep it, she really looked thankful but conflicted about the amount like she had never received such a tip before. This was the first reason that I particularly liked this one.

During my overnighter with her we spent the time trying to communicate and learn each other's language using my pocket translator. We genuinely had a good time getting to know one another between the 3 pops I got in. The 'relationship' evolved to the point, where on my trip out to the airport, I even stopped by the Bordello to say goodbye. She had thought that she wouldn't see me again. When she did see me she just ran over, began hugging me, and started crying a river in front of everyone. Despite my age and youthful appearance, I've been mongering for over 15 years and that day. Man, she melted my heart like no pro had ever been able to before. She cried so much she was attached to me for about 20 minutes in front of everyone, which I think really pissed off her momma.

So anyway, fast forward several weeks and to make a long story short, she and I correspond almost daily by SMS. At first there were only expressions of love and affection. Then her father got sick. She said he recovered, but abruptly a week or so later she stated that he was back in the hospital. She actually left the Bordello during that time and returned to her hometown to help her family. I actually believe everything up to and including her father's recovery.

But what I have an issue with is the 2nd hospital stay, as this is when her SMS messages began to have a tone of sadness and desperation. After several days of messages, it finally came out that they didn't have enough money for his necessary hospital bills and medicine. So this is where it gets interesting.

So here is my dilemma. I have a Bordello girl, who's contract ends in October of 2008, and that I am very fond of and intend to see many times again, in need of my assistance. Her handler turned down her request for additional funds to be added to her contract obligations, so she has no alternative source for her father's 'medical costs'.

Do I send her $$$ and just consider it a good deed done as my charitable donation for the year, for the outside chance that her request is legitimate, knowing full well that it could be a scam? I can easily afford the amount she requested, and am considering it. For if there is even a 10% chance her situation is legit I'd like to help her.

One thing that bothers me is that I asked her to send me her full name from her KTP (gov't ID card) but she stated that she didn't have one yet. I know than many in the underground economy don't have such documents but I thought that all bordello girls had to have this card? JAD any insight on this?

I'd appreciate thoughts backed with experiences only. I want to hear from those with first hand knowledge in such matters, particularly in JKT.

And please. No useless comments from the peanut gallery as I am very aware of how it may appear to a 3rd party and in addition I probably have more mongering experience than most of those that usually offer useless comments.

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[Jkt After Dark 2]

.... I've decided to post in support of your excellent tour services. Gentlemen JAKARTA AFTER DARK's SERVICES ARE TOP NOTCH.

And JAD. You know I'm up for any horny house wife too bad that last one didn't work out. .... I always wanted to be a professional man ***** for a day (of course only for cute girls. We've gone around together enough that you know what I like, just don't tell Herlina) man she still texts me 10 times a day!

Hi Scooter Pie,

Thank you for recommending my tour services. I really appreciate it. I don't count the result. It's your thought that counts.

Unlike us, who simply drop our pants and shoot, horny housewives are very choosy. Beside, their windows for extramarital activities are also limited.

While most chicken do it for the money, most ducks do it for the thrill.

Looking forward to meeting you again this coming December!

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[Jkt After Dark 2]

Horny housewives rent friends. The women calling in are usually Indonesian Chinese housewives followed by Indonesian housewives who shared the same emotions: cheating husband (who doesn't ), can't stand boring marriage, exhausted with job and kids, etc. They are in their 30's and up. Their choice in men-for-hire tends to be hot hunks in their late 20's. I am sure Senior Members like Menteng and MD will tell you not to argue with me on this. **PEACE**

Anyone thinks he is somehow, somewhat competitive should PM me with his details.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Those who do not have PM facility may find my contact details on my advertorial on Classified Ads thread.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[Samchad]

Hi,

Thanks for your tips about Jakarta. I came back recently and visited the Japanese restaurant area of Blok M. Two doors down from the Golden Boutique Hotel is the Siti? Executive Club. The 2nd floor is karaoke and 3rd floor is massage. Went for a massage. There are no separate rooms. The massage tables are separated by white curtains. 1 hr is 95, 000. I lucked out and got a lady named Devi. She gave the best, firm massage I EVER had in Indonesia. It doesn't sound like much extras are possible due to the curtains, but you can get either HJ or BBBJ. I opted for BBBJ. This is negotiable. I got for 400, 000 but you can probably get for 300, 000. The BBBJ also comes with Devi massaging your bum hole, which feels great during the BBBJ. No CIM though. But Devi is really cute and I hope you treat her well.

[Scooter Pie]

Hey JAD,

Good to see you here. I've decided to post in support of your excellent tour services. Gentlemen JAKARTA AFTER DARK's SERVICES ARE TOP NOTCH.

And JAD. You know I'm up for any horny house wife too bad that last one didn't work out. You can keep all the money. I always wanted to be a professional man ***** for a day (of course only for cute girls. We've gone around together enough that you know what I like, just don't tell Herlina) man she still texts me 10 times a day!

I'll make sure 'my client' is my first for the day, haha satisfaction guaranteed!

See you again in December my friend.

Scooter Pie

Horny housewives rent friends. The women calling in are usually Indonesian Chinese housewives followed by Indonesian housewives who shared the same emotions: cheating husband (who doesn't ), can't stand boring marriage, exhausted with job and kids, etc. They are in their 30's and up. Their choice in men-for-hire tends to be hot hunks in their late 20's. I am sure Senior Members like Menteng and MD will tell you not to argue with me on this. **PEACE**

Anyone thinks he is somehow, somewhat competitive should PM me with his details.

[Bulai69]

Thanks to those who fed back on Pasar Raya - incredible it's still open, I thought it was a mere building site - for sure the older ones near the Blok M Plaza end definitely are closed down. Anyway, as it happens, it's lucky I though it was closed or I wouldn't have had my "experience" Blok M Plaza cinema!

[Bulai69]

In general, I would not really recommend outcall services. Maybe there is a specific reason you want that, eg you are with a narrow minded colleague or whatever, but even then I think there are better options with a bit of creativity. With outcall, the problems you will have include not turning up, turning up late (100% certain to happen) and "late" in Jakarta can mean 2 or 3 hours in this context. Also whatever you say you want as far as the girl is concerned, they will say they have. They won't, you'll get what they've got. If you do go for outcall you must ask them to bring two girls so you can choose. Also be very clear about the price in advance.

Better options, include going out to bars and getting girls yourself. This is cheaper and obviously better as you know what you are getting. If you can, choose a hotel with club - in order of preference, Mulia, Shangri-La, Le Meridien. You will 100% certain to find a girl in there.

Another good option is to go on one of JAD's tours - he knows Jakarta inside out.

[Principito]

I am planning a short trip to Jakarta this month. Can I request the seasoned mongers of Jakarta to pm me a couple of contact numbers for ordering massage 'room service'? Thanks in advance....

A few days ago, I received a name card from a woman in front of Grand Hyatt. She told me it's the 'room service' massage and the price is 500k for maximum 3 hours. And mentioned if u don't like the girl who is sent, u can only refuse her.

The phone no. is 0817805680 (maybe mobile) Ms. Ria

I didn't try yet. So, I can't tell u how is the girl or how is the service. U tell me after u use the 'room service' hehe!

Happy Night Life!

[Dr. Beat]

I am planning a short trip to Jakarta this month. Can I request the seasoned mongers of Jakarta to pm me a couple of contact numbers for ordering massage 'room service'? Thanks in advance....

[Prestigejy]

It's not that there's no action during Ramadhan but the bars outside of hotels will close down. There are still a lot of girls who need and will be looking for some company. It will just be a bit less obvious. The hotel bars will be open except for a few days at the start middle and end of the month. In the last few days, the girls will become more scarce as those from out of town, will go back to visit their families.

MD II

Massage noted. thanks. I will look for information about it.

[Master Diver II]

My trip to jkt will be on September. I think I've got to cancel my trip because during Ramandan the activities are dead.

It's not that there's no action during Ramadhan but the bars outside of hotels will close down. There are still a lot of girls who need and will be looking for some company. It will just be a bit less obvious. The hotel bars will be open except for a few days at the start middle and end of the month. In the last few days, the girls will become more scarce as those from out of town, will go back to visit their families.

MD II