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08-23-22 03:13 #16180
Posts: 147Originally Posted by Mgp23 [View Original Post]
Zaigon girls page is https://instagram.com/ayoke_z.
(the other one is just the lounge page with the spa facility).
https://www.instagram.com/dkangelsmabes/
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08-22-22 22:36 #16179
Posts: 43Originally Posted by Mgp23 [View Original Post]
I think the best recommendation would be to ask the manager while you are there and on site for their IG or if they have IG. (Although I know that is a pain for researching where you want to go.) Most of the spas I've seen have their IG set to manually approve followers. So even if you find one, they may not approve you unless you are there and they know you are an actual customer.
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08-22-22 22:22 #16178
Posts: 43Originally Posted by Mgp23 [View Original Post]
I went early when they opened around 11 am. There were only 3 therapists available. You can only view pictures of them on a phone or tablet beforehand and you can't see them in person. This always bugs me as they usually show up with a few extra pounds. I chose Rena. 25 years old and from Subang. She was a quite a bit heavier than her picture led on. Decent massage, but her patik mangga (ball massage) was very sensual and good. (Every time I've gone there the ladies are absolutely DTF, but for a significant extra cost.) They quote outrageous prices like an extra 500 K to 1 mil. I generally pass. I don't want to waste the bullet on just a HJ or pay quite that much for an overweight lady when Classic and Travel have much better value. But if you are staying at the Grand Mercure, you can also get the ladies to do the massage or up charged sex in your room. Which may be convenient for some.
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08-22-22 12:04 #16177
Posts: 70Spas Instagram
Do you have any spas Instagram accounts where you can see the girls? I found only Zaigon.
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08-22-22 12:03 #16176
Posts: 70Jw
I tried JW last month. Massage price is around 500++ and I tipped the girl 200 for the extra.
Pretty decent massage, the girl was a 7/10 around late 30's I'd say, nice HJ and allowed me to undo her bra and touch. No rush and ok attitude. Wouldn't go again because of the price.
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08-22-22 10:09 #16175
Posts: 333Originally Posted by BenderOver [View Original Post]
Like I say, these guys are in business a long time and their customers are not dupes, you can also nego with them. The Jews have a saying, "only Gentiles pay retail", in Indonesia only bules pay for the official "genuine" product.
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08-22-22 04:33 #16174
Posts: 147Be Fashion Spa
My luck ran out.
My first massage at be Fashion was with a cute model like young lady (I know her name but didn't post for a reason) and she's an incredible experience.
L face 8. 5 youthful and pretty, Body 8. 5 but a tiny bit of belly probably due to childbirth.
A Very friendly and willing to satisfy.
S Excellent. Lots of body licking, DATY, 69, BBBJ, BBFS.
E between 700 to 800 entry + I offered 400 tip.
RR Yes and Yes.
But my luck has run out. I've gone back several times and the same girl is always booked. I point out other cuties on their instagram and they're either return pulang to desa or not working that day.
Important recommendation. Don't go on Sunday. For some reason, the selection on Sunday is always terrible.
This last time, I ended up picking Dea who was gorgeous in her photos. However, the Dea that showed up in person was at least a good 1 point below her face photo and at least 2. 5 points below her body photo. This girl was at least 10 kg heavier than expected and none of it looked like it was "good shape 10 kg".
Then the service was total shit show. CBJ CFS. No DFK, no LFK, body was too fat for me to even try DATY.
I give her credit that the body massage was sooo good. No tease. Just a good strong deep tissue and muscle relaxing massage.
Entry changed up a little bit this time.
320 to the Booking table (they offer a lot of options and I think I picked the 90 minute massage and sex option).
420 to the Spa Entry for the room.
200 tip for lousy service but it was my choice. She was nice enough to know that she didn't "take care of me" the way I wanted and she wasn't mean about the whole session. I've seen that before too. When the provider knows that you'll never pick her again, so she's just a mean queen.
RR. Can't recommend Dea. Won't repeat Dea and at this rate, would never go back to be Fashion on a Sunday! Also, should prebook the girl you want, because the other regulars do, and you get the leftovers.
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08-21-22 23:10 #16173
Posts: 43Inflation over the past 17 years at Hotel Travel
I first went to Hotel Travel around the 2005 timeline. I am pretty sure the cost back then for a session was 285 K. 17 years later, in 2022, Travel is now 375 K. In local currency, that is an increase of about 31.5% That is actually not all the bad honestly. That is technically about 1. 85% increase (averaged) each year since 2005.
However, if you compared that to the US dollar. It's actually even better.
https://fx.sauder.ubc.ca/etc/USDpages.pdf
According to this historical document, in 2005, the IDR to USD was about 9704 IDR to 1 USD. 285,000 / 9704 amounts to about 29.36 USD.
In 2022, the USD is now 14870 IDR to 1 USD. The USD is the strongest its ever been against the IDR, except in the early Covid days when it went to over 16 K. But Indonesia was closed and those of us not lucky enough to be there could not take advantage of this exchange rate.
Anyway, 375,000 / 14870 is about 25.21 USD. So for those of you fortunate enough to get paid in USD, you've actually experienced negative inflation of about -14.1%.
In 2005, one of my other favorite places was 230,000 for a session or 23.70 USD. Now that same place is about 400,000 for a session or 26.89 USD. For locals, that is a staggering 74% increase over 17 years. Or about 4. 3% a year averaged. In USD terms, the inflation was about 13.4% or less than 1% a year.
My point is, this could all change in a heartbeat and who know what will happen. The USD probably won't stay this strong against the IDR forever. But now may be a uniquely good time to take advantage of the strong USD, if you happen to get compensated in that or a similarly strong currency against the IDR.
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08-21-22 22:36 #16172
Posts: 43Originally Posted by Llantarnam [View Original Post]
I am strictly a "view them first in person" type of guy. There is way too much photoshop, filters, and ladies that are older (pictures from 10 years ago) or fatter than their profiles lead on. My time is just too limited and too valuable to spend chasing online bookings or dating site hookups. But I certainly don't begrudge anyone who chooses this approach. It is just not for me. Too much time and effort for too little reward.
I will say though, the trend is clear in a shift to online dating and bookings. And personally, I hate it. I love going in person to a place, speaking with the lady first, finding out which services she is comfortable providing, and being able to check out her real face and body. That is much more difficult to get online. Luckily Jakarta still has lots of places where you can go in person.
I am glad you decided to give Jakarta a try. It's not for everyone. It's a big, huge, crowded polluted city and the scene is spread out. Language can be a barrier. But the sex with women with good bodies and decent attitudes is fantastic. And I've actually grown quite accustomed to and fond of the city. Despite its many short comings. I'm very comfortable there.
Glad you decided to do a mix of both. Please let us know how it goes.
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08-21-22 10:06 #16171
Posts: 292Originally Posted by NoGermaphobe [View Original Post]
Maybe get an outcall from one of the dating sites for night 1 and then explore some of the bars / clubs. I was in Bali about 4 years ago and paid about 1 million for a pretty girl with a nice body from on line dating site. What is the going rate for a similar girl in Jakarta?
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08-21-22 06:09 #16170
Posts: 147Originally Posted by Hilo77 [View Original Post]
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08-21-22 05:56 #16169
Posts: 8Originally Posted by Bbdbbd [View Original Post]
After our first date (it was not P4P) we ended up at my hotel. She did wear hijab during the date, but I took it off in the hotel room. We were kissing and caressing and I eventually took off all her clothes. I tent to take off women's pants together with underwear. Most women are fine taking off pants, but some will show resistance when it comes to underwear. Doing both at once avoids this issue. When my date realized I was about to put my penis in her vagina, she got scared, said no, and immediately wanted to suck me to provide an alternative. I was quite disappointed, but we didn't have PIV sex on that day.
We met again a few days later. I don't remember who initiated it. We ended up in my hotel again and again we were naked in bed. While kissing in bed, I started touching her between her legs with my penis, then started rubbing it on her clitoris, and occasionally reached the vaginal opening to lubricate. It lasted for a few minutes and then I pushed my penis inside her. She said something about me tricking her into sex.
It don't know if she was really a virgin or not, we met once or twice again, but my memory of it slowly fades. The influence this encounter had on me is that I developed a taste for rubbing my penis on women's clitoris. I tend to do it so long that they get impatient and ask me to enter them.
Let us know if you went on a second date and how it went!
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08-21-22 02:39 #16168
Posts: 119Originally Posted by NoGermaphobe [View Original Post]
My last trip (pre-covid) I loved 1001 spa. I usually don't hear about it on this board but I found the women there gorgeous. Don't fully remember so the details may be a bit off, but entry fee with 200 k with a beer included. They put a sticker on your phone camera to prevent photo snapping. Usually there were about 30-50 girls there in little black dresses just hanging around the girl area. As you sit down at some pretty comfortable couches a mamasan come sit with you. You can chill out, order food / more drinks / whatever. At some point you ask her for a line up and about 20 of the girls come to your couch area. Given there's usually more than that many girls they line up in groups, so if you don't see anyone you like in the first batch tell the mamasan and she's switch the lineup. Most girls are max 25 yo and range from super skinny to some with surpringly large breasts. No fatties as far as I can remember.
Once you select a girl she'll come join you at the couch for a chat / whatever. I guess if you spoke Bahasa you can flirt / discuss services / etc. Usually for me I just have a quick chat and tell her I'm ready for the room. The rooms are pretty nice if I remember right, girl services are pretty standard, none of the ones I picked did anything special, but I always left satisfied.
Afterwards you come back to the main area / couch and can drink some more / pick another girl if you want. When leaving you head to the counter to pay. I think it was somewhere between 1-2 m for entry fee+girl fee inc100-200 k tip for the girl. I think there are also non locals for a higher price. Best part for me was they gave a receipt showing f&be so I could expense most of the session to my company! In the end I paid similar prices to a classic / travel session.
I compare the 1001 spa experience to Alexis hotel when they were open in terms of price and girl appearance. The only downside is while 1001 has a giant pool, the girl experience does not include time spent in the pool like it did in Alexis.
Give the place a try and let me know if the girl quality is still there. I hope the lack of Asian businessmen hasn't killed off the quality of girls there.
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08-20-22 17:41 #16167
Posts: 43List of new places (for me) to try
Although I have been going to Indonesia for years, I've often gotten into a routine of visiting the same places over and over. Hotel Travel, Classic, Malio, KI, and a massage at Sun City (before it closed. I am still bummed about that. I really liked their facilities.) The maybe once or twice a trip I would venture out to Kelapa Gading and usually just visit King Cross and MTR2, sometimes Sumo. Those places were usually more than enough to fulfill my needs over a weekend or weeklong trip. And with the exception of the Kelapa Gading places, were relatively close.
But I've decided that I've become too comfortable in my routine and I want to try some new places. New places for me that is. Here is the list I've compiled so far. We'll see how far along I get with it.
New Medika. I've never sessioned there. But I think I visited and went inside once with a group of friends in like 2005 or 06.
DK Mabes Mangga Besar. Never been. Either their old or new places. But some of the ladies on their Instagram look ok.
Blowart Kelapa Gading. These places haven't been talked about much. But they are blowjob joints. I swear there use to be one in Kota Tua. But now I can only find the place in Kelapa Gading. I guess the easiest comparison is the blowjob bars in Thailand, but probably nicer facilities in Jakarta.
Mr Braid. Sounds like an interesting setup. And they open early apparently, 11 am.
Vermouth Spa Kelapa Gading. Looks like it is in the same complex as King Cross on the upper north side.
1001 Sexy Pool. I've been there once before, but never sessioned there. They have locals and import.
Zaigon Spa. Close to where I normally stay in the Mangga Besar area. Looks like decent facilities.
Sugar Spa and Lounge. Another place I have recently read about.
18 Eighteen. KTV and SPA. Another new place (for me) on the Mangga Besar area. On the corner of Mangga Besar and Gunning Sahari. Seems like the price is on the higher end.
Blitz Massage. Still in Kelapa Gading, but on the north side of Boulevard Bar Raya. Looks relatively close to the complex King Cross is in. I was sold on the report posted here that talked about the extreme ass licking option. LOL.
New Vins. Closer to G2 and Mr. Braid. Sliding cost scale from 300 K to 750 K.
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08-20-22 04:46 #16166
Posts: 43So just my opinion. But if you plan on doing lower volume dating site ladies BB, I don't think you need to go on PREP. I mean maybe consider it if you plan on going BB with high volume working ladies. But dating site ladies seems like it may be overkill.
Anecdotally, I've fucked hundreds of mid to high volume working ladies all across Asia BB the last 7 years and I am still testing negative. The vast majority of my encounters though are penis to vagina insertive or oral sex. Certainly do whatever you are comfortable with risk wise, but if your main goal is regular dating site type ladies and just regular penis to vagina sex (no anal), then the vast amount of research data available on HIV says your risk profile is fairly low.
Originally Posted by MikeHoncho [View Original Post]