Jakarta

[Oyenk]

Carrefour supermarket

* A supermarket with French management, I believe they're the only one supermarket in Jakarta which sells PORK...
I have no idea in other branch outside JKT.
(I could write this cause I always bought pork in Carrefour LebakBulus)

Pork for muslim is forbidden to eat, other animal is forbidden for muslim is Dog (even as a pet).

* JakartaAfterDark is a recommended partner to explore Jakarta's night life, I agree with you and he is a friend of mine too.


cheers...

[Cookie70]

What can I say? I'm almost in tears. You guys treat me better than my physical brother. Ha ha.

Thank you all for the information. I'll take all of it to heart and will post all my adventures. If any of you would like to meet up for mongering, I'll gladly join you. Just PM me.

Cheers

[KL Guy]

Hi Cookie70,

Whether your a bule or not, you stand a good chance of connecting to the FLs as long as you daring & play smart in your mall hunting episodes!

I've been to a couple of mall hunts with both bules (like Bulai69), locals and Malaysians of differant races and till date have not failed to notice at least 1 FL in all malls but the only problems are these FLs to your requirements!

The most important factor is to simply smile (not like a wolf but a pleasant smile) to any girl that takes your fancy, if she responds positivly then next's step is to be DARING and approcahed her if you do not see any agresive males accompnying them! Ask them to go for a drink at any outlet in the mall and the rest is up to you!

There is no way you are unable to meet FLs in known FLs hang out places like Atrium unless there is a clean up operation b the mall and I have seen friends pick up girls at malls like Plaza Indoesia and Plaza Senayan, thus I dont see a problem for anyone!

Remeber dress nicely for that added attraction (by that I man not sloppy looking!)

Hope this helps!

KL Guy

I've read all the report I can get my eyes on. I'll be in Jakarta mid-June for a month. I'm trying to digest how I can get the mall action. Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.

I'm just looking for a senior brother to guide me. How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay. Perhaps any of you can hook up with me and show me the ropes. I don't mind paying for my lesson.

Cheers

[Gonzo Two]

You don't need to be bule to score in Jakarta: if you are male, still alive and have some money you will be OK. Remember, girls will perceive you to have money if you are Chinese in just the same way as they perceive bules.

Probably true, except that there some groups of girls who focus on particular market segments. Some bars or other venues may be set up to deal mainly with expat bules, others are more for local Chinese, others for Arabs and Africans and so on. Go into the wrong bar, and you may find yourself, well, not ignored, but on the B-list. I always have some good-natured wrangling with a local Chinese friend: when I suggest a venue, he protests that the girls there are only interested in bules, and he wants to go to 1001 or someplace in Kota where I find I get ignored and he is on a first-name basis with all the Mamas.

But there are so many girls and bars in Jakarta that you really don't have to worry.

[Bulai69]

You don't need to be bule to score in Jakarta: if you are male, still alive and have some money you will be OK. Remember, girls will perceive you to have money if you are Chinese in just the same way as they perceive bules. Being able to speak bhs Indonesia will be a great help especially in the more down market (but still OK) malls such as Atrium were most girls don't speak English. I suggest you take note of Mighty Spearsman's report with which I fully agree - there are quite a few non-bules who post in this forum who seem to do OK! If you search on mall hunting you may find some useful tips and certainly Jakarta After Dark will put on the right track quickly and effectively.

[Mighty Spearsman]

I've read all the reports I can get my eyes on. I'll be in Jakarta mid-June for a month. I'm trying to digest how I can get the mall action. Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.

I'm just looking for a senior brother to guide me. How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay. Perhaps any of you can hook up with me and show me the ropes. I don't mind paying for my lesson.

Cheers

One of the more distinguished Senior Members of this board is a Chinese Malaysian. He's a regular contributor to the Indonesia threads, who's written numerous posts of his successes as a mall-hunter during his 3-or-4-times-a-year visits to Jakarta. He clearly has had no problems scoring with the women here, so neither should you.

And many of the customers at the MPs are Chinese Indonesian, especially the higher-end places such as Malioboro and Alexis.

However, if you are still worried, one way to guarantee success would be to take one of Jakarta After Dark's tours (he is a regular poster to this board, his handle is "Jkt After Dark 2" (without the quotes, of course).

Just go to the Classified Ads section of this board and go to Page 4, you should easily find a couple of informative posts written by him there. I can think of at least 3 members who have used Jkt After Dark 2's services and then wrote posts that it was money well-spent.

So, welcome to Jakarta, and good luck! and make sure you go to Kartika Spa at least once. I was there again this afternoon, and had yet another great session there

[Cookie70]

I've read all the report I can get my eyes on. I'll be in Jakarta mid-June for a month. I'm trying to digest how I can get the mall action. Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.

I'm just looking for a senior brother to guide me. How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay. Perhaps any of you can hook up with me and show me the ropes. I don't mind paying for my lesson.

Cheers

[Dorman]

Dboy your choice of hotel is fine (I can see your bedroom from my office window as I type) but you are certainly not in a particularly 'hot' area. Jaksa is ok for the back packers but not really a mongering destination, though you could do worse than hanging around the McDonald's in Sarinah Mall after dark.

You were unwise to skip the Blok at 10pm, you'd have found plenty of interest even on a Sunday evening.

My advice would be to get down to the Blok now, find the Melawei Hotel (just around the corner from Pasaraya Mall) and get a room there for 330K a night, then when you're bored during the afternoon you can visit the Marabaya Bar in the 6th Floor, the rest is up to you. Other cheap hotels in that area are the Melawei II (the yellow building across the street from the Melawei) and the Losari and Amaris near the Blok M Plaza Mall.

I fully sympathise with your disorientation in Jakarta, it happens to us all on our first visit, I know I hated the place and couldn't wait to leave when I first arrived but stick with it, you'll discover you've found a real gem of a city here.

[Dorman]

Although the flooding is expected to be severe up north I don't think the rest of Jakarta should suffer too many problems as unlike last time it will be largely tidal in origin rather than due to heavy rains. Of course if the high tide coincides with a heavy rain storm then all bets are off.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Hi bro MS,

Thanks for the informations, how much stock of food should we be stocking up?
How bad is this tide?

My humble two cents.

If you're living full-time in Jakarta, it never hurts to have 3 or 4 days worth of food on hand at all times - tuna fish, instant noodles, bottled water, beer, canned soup, etc.

The tide will close off most of the northern part of town, including the important trade area of Glodok (old Chinatown), and will affect much of the rest of Jakarta as access to the port will be difficult.

Last year over 70 per cent of Jakarta was flooded for almost a week. I live in Mega Kuningan, one of the neighborhoods that was not flooded, but the nearby Carrefour supermarket started to run out of food after a few days, because the delivery trucks couldn't reach the supermarket.

[Mighty Spearsman]

I'm struggling to understand the scene here in Indonesia.

I arrived in JAK Sat and have been sleeping a lot, so that has made it difficult. I'm staying at Hotel Ibis Tamarind, for $48 per night, net, great breakfast included, thru KAHA booking service at the airport (thanks Jamie Carrito). Front desk is quoting $58 for the same. But I feel isolated, no mongers, very few Western travellers, no good advice for a first time traveller.

Will move to Jl Jaska St, the backpacker hangout on Monday. Prices are very good, internet is easy and cheap (important for me) and people are friendly. From there I'll visit Block M, and I hope to meet some guys that can give me some advice.

Did some interesting sight seeing today near the port. (The port that will be flooded in two days, due to high tides and another natural event). A guide walked me through some very local, interesting, friendly areas, way off the beaten path. The most fascinating sight seeing I've done in one hour in a long time.

Later, I wanted to go to Block M, but woke up late (10:00pm) and thought Sunday night was an off night. I want to move to the Block M area in a day or so, but I don't want to pay US$60-100 for a place, as suggested by Bowerboy. Thanks for the info, but it's way more than I want to pay. So I'm looking for a place for less than $50. I tend to do ST, so I spend very little time in the hotel.

So, any help would be appreciated. I'll be in JAK for another 4 days, then Bali. Would like to meet some guys from this board, like I've done in a lot of other places. My buddies are asking for a trip report. I need some action! I'll have a phone number on Monday.

Since price appears to be your main concern, then yes your best bet would be the Jalan Jaksa area.

Another option, try the Hotel Caravan, which is around 200,000 rupiah a night for a clean room (brand-new building) and which is a 5 minute walk from Plaza Indonesia and Grand Indonesia shopping malls. You won't see any foreigners there (unless someone like me uses the place for a short-term pop), but you're close to those malls.

And 10 p.m. on a Sunday night would have been a good time to check out the Blok M places. When it comes to sex in Jakarta, there's no real "off night" (except during the fasting month of Ramadan), these girls need to eat (and spend money on other things) every day of the week.

Glad also to read that you toured the Sunda Kelapa port area, interesting stuff, lots of history there.

[Dboy]

I'm struggling to understand the scene here in Indonesia.

I arrived in JAK Sat and have been sleeping a lot, so that has made it difficult. I'm staying at Hotel Ibis Tamarind, for $48 per night, net, great breakfast included, thru KAHA booking service at the airport (thanks Jamie Carrito). Front desk is quoting $58 for the same. But I feel isolated, no mongers, very few Western travellers, no good advice for a first time traveller.

Will move to Jl Jaska St, the backpacker hangout on Monday. Prices are very good, internet is easy and cheap (important for me) and people are friendly. From there I'll visit Block M, and I hope to meet some guys that can give me some advice.

Did some interesting sight seeing today near the port. (The port that will be flooded in two days, due to high tides and another natural event). A guide walked me through some very local, interesting, friendly areas, way off the beaten path. The most fascinating sight seeing I've done in one hour in a long time.

Later, I wanted to go to Block M, but woke up late (10:00pm) and thought Sunday night was an off night. I want to move to the Block M area in a day or so, but I don't want to pay US$60-100 for a place, as suggested by Bowerboy. Thanks for the info, but it's way more than I want to pay. So I'm looking for a place for less than $50. I tend to do ST, so I spend very little time in the hotel.

So, any help would be appreciated. I'll be in JAK for another 4 days, then Bali. Would like to meet some guys from this board, like I've done in a lot of other places. My buddies are asking for a trip report. I need some action! I'll have a phone number on Monday.

[Jkt After Dark 2]

Since the toll-road to Soekarno-Hatta gets flooded every time it rains a little heavy, I wonder, if with the predicted flood, anything could be reached then. Less the airport and hotels!

It is being anticipated. This high tide is supposedly to affect coastal areas of Jakarta including the toll-road to Soekarno-Hatta airport. I drove JC to the airport a couple days ago and I saw construction of concrete along the toll-road exposed to the tide. To block the tide I guess.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[Menteng]

Important news for anyone who plans to fly into or out of Jakarta on June 3rd & 4th (also June 5th), whether or not you're an American:

"The US Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, informs American citizens that the World Bank warned that a record high tide is likely to flood North Jakarta next week. The tides are expected to be at an 18-year high and World Bank experts predict that flood waters could be up to four feet deep on Tuesday, June 3, and Wednesday, June 4, 2008. A flood of this size is likely to cut off the highway to Seokarna-Hatta airport.

"American citizens are urged to prepare adequate stores of food and water and to expect that mobility may be significantly hampered. American citizens should stay current with media coverage of local events and be aware that the situation is likely to affect the entire city.

"The U.S. Embassy intends to maintain normal consular services next week, but may have to close on short notice if conditions prevent public access to the Embassy grounds."

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If you arrive at the airport and can't get into town, you do have a few options for a place to sleep. There's a decent Transit Hotel right inside Terminal 2 (where all international flights arrive); Bulai69 stayed there in February 2007 and had some good luck with the in-house massage girls who came to his room.

There's also a Sheraton Hotel located just off the airport grounds two minutes away, also a FM7 Hotel about 5 minutes drive away (this is a different FM7 hotel from the one that's near Taman Anggrek Mall near downtown).

There are a couple of alternative routes into the city, basically one-lane roads that wind through crowded low-income slums; these roads will probably be very crowded!

Since the toll-road to Soekarno-Hatta gets flooded every time it rains a little heavy, I wonder, if with the predicted flood, anything could be reached then. Less the airport and hotels!

[Aakumu]

Important news for anyone who plans to fly into or out of Jakarta on June 3rd & 4th (also June 5th), whether or not you're an American:

"The US Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, informs American citizens that the World Bank warned that a record high tide is likely to flood North Jakarta next week. The tides are expected to be at an 18-year high and World Bank experts predict that flood waters could be up to four feet deep on Tuesday, June 3, and Wednesday, June 4, 2008. A flood of this size is likely to cut off the highway to Seokarna-Hatta airport.

"American citizens are urged to prepare adequate stores of food and water and to expect that mobility may be significantly hampered. American citizens should stay current with media coverage of local events and be aware that the situation is likely to affect the entire city.

"The U.S. Embassy intends to maintain normal consular services next week, but may have to close on short notice if conditions prevent public access to the Embassy grounds."

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If you arrive at the airport and can't get into town, you do have a few options for a place to sleep. There's a decent Transit Hotel right inside Terminal 2 (where all international flights arrive); Bulai69 stayed there in February 2007 and had some good luck with the in-house massage girls who came to his room.

There's also a Sheraton Hotel located just off the airport grounds two minutes away, also a FM7 Hotel about 5 minutes drive away (this is a different FM7 hotel from the one that's near Taman Anggrek Mall near downtown).

There are a couple of alternative routes into the city, basically one-lane roads that wind through crowded low-income slums; these roads will probably be very crowded!

Hi bro MS,

Thanks for the informations, how much stock of food should we be stocking up?
How bad is this tide?

My humble two cents.