Jakarta

[Raverboy]

Heard before that connexions from Batam-Spore, and Medan-Penang are fiskal-free for Indonesians, apparently to promote cross-straits economic cooperation or due to some historical links. Can anybody confirm whether this is true? May be too much of a hassle, though.

Best,
Panya

It's been several months since my last trip to Batam, but I do remember seeing the 'fiskal' counter just before you hit the immigration officers while exiting at Harbour Bay.

Singapore has had a jump this year in visitors from Indonesia according to the Tourist Promotion Board, maybe what youve heard is true?

http://www.balidiscovery.com/message...ge.asp?Id=4045

[Panya]

So heres the question of the day.. how can she avoid the fiskal payment.. at RP1.1 its another cost whether she pays or I pay.. and i still pay for the airfare of course....any thoughts appreciated!!! ( and no moving to JKTA isnt an option..hahahah)

Heard before that connexions from Batam-Spore, and Medan-Penang are fiskal-free for Indonesians, apparently to promote cross-straits economic cooperation or due to some historical links. Can anybody confirm whether this is true? May be too much of a hassle, though.

Best,
Panya

[Master Diver II]

I wanna be you when I grow up. Can I call you papa?

Raverboy,

If you want to call Panya papa, you'll have to join the queue across 40 cities in 22 countries.....

MD II

[Master Diver II]

Thanks mate,

I am more into lighter skin gals which is why i would go where the local are going. disco is not my type so looking for local life band hangout bar that sort of places. Basically similar to BATs but remove all us Bule..nothing dubious about that!

Cheers

Barson,

The grin should have told you it was a joke since you asked for a place frequented by local men. Chill bro

MD II

[Master Diver II]

Look who's talking ... missing for more than a year, and he says he misses us.


To all mongers visiting Jakarta, there's something here that you just cannot find in the anatomy of other women in other countries .. it's called the GFE-spot .. my advice is to look for it ... it's really not that hard to find in Jakarta. Sigh!

(BUT, now that MDII is back in town, I guess things will revert back to normal.)

Best,
Panya

Bro,

I'm kind of, sort of wondering what you meant by all that mush. As usual, Panya must be in love before little Panya is willing to give his best. I wholly agree that Jakarta is the GFE capital of the world but you will now have some part of the female anatomy named after you (as the GFE spot will forever now be called the P-spot after loving Panya). We just have to allocate the right location now - suggestions on a postcard please.

Incidentally, I have been coming to Jakarta regularly (again) since October last year. I'm touched bro that you missed me so much.

MD II

[FreebieFan]

Ok, I've been hypnotised or am going thru mid life crisis, but recently met a hottie in Jakarta. Since then Ive invited her to Kl a couple times and shes joined me on some business trips around Asia when she can get time off from her work.
Hot playful 24 and perfect for an over 50 guy.

So heres the question of the day.. how can she avoid the fiskal payment.. at RP1.1 its another cost whether she pays or I pay.. and i still pay for the airfare of course....any thoughts appreciated!!! ( and no moving to JKTA isnt an option..hahahah)

[Menteng]

By the way, Bro Menteng, Mrs. E at KCB asked where you've been.

Hmmm, makes me wonder! The last time we were to meet, she didn't show up. But, I'm sorry to say that I'm back in Colombia now, reminiscing the Jakarta days with you, MD, Jad, Knight a.o.

[Menteng]

Btw Jad, I keep coming across a lot of girls from Subang or nearby there, I guess Rianti's mum must have been a busy lady.

MD II

Maybe she should start a coffee-shop now

[Barson]

Sounds dubious. If I read your question correctly, you want to seek where the locals go hunting? Well the locals tend to go for a different crowd than the one that hangs around BATs. You find some locals and Asian expats around CJs; I have seen quite a few at the spas around town and quick fix places so to speak. Other than that, I know some go for the mall-hunting sene. But I'm curious too - any ideas out there? Or is it similar to some of us in KL - we dont go for the bar scene (too risky) and end up in the spas etc; occasionally when we find some girls, we will arrange for a more discrete rendezvous or go to places where family and family friends do not frequent. I personally like to stay in the hotel room and conduct "meaningful discussions".

MD II

Thanks mate,

I am more into lighter skin gals which is why i would go where the local are going. disco is not my type so looking for local life band hangout bar that sort of places. Basically similar to BATs but remove all us Bule..nothing dubious about that!

Cheers

[Kodja]

Ok, so I am a daft newbie. Totally new to the scene, but at least I had the sense of reading quite a bit of the posts here. Thank you all. But that did not help. I guess it all comes down to a first time is a first time and experience like all you seem to have does not come from just reading posts.

Anyways, most of the posts are about Kota. As I generally stay south Kota can be hours away. Another area that has been mentioned a few times but less enthusiastic is Gran Wijaya, but that can also be hours in bad traffic. So I asked the Silver bird driver of any places near Crowne Plaza. Delta Spa in Kuningan was the place he took me to. Got a feeling that this would be expensive when seeing all the Mercs and BMWs standing up front, but once in the lobby and this crowd of Britons came in I felt I could not walk away.

Prices start at about 300. 000 for a 2x45 min session but they "strongly recommend" a third session. This is just for the using the facilities. Cost for aroma, hot stone, shiatsu etc all come on top of this.

The friendly Britons explained a bit to me that the price is an "all in" price and no tipping required. I did not ask what all in meant but was hoping for a real all in. They also explained that you need to take their recommendations on sessions and massages or the extras would not appear. You can enjoy the facilities for as long as you want which is great and when you feel ready you walk up the stairs to the second floor to book you massage. Absolutely gorgeous, stunning, amazingly pretty and sexy girls in black skimpy outifts act as some sort of sales to try to get you to add on various services. It is damn difficult not to go along with what they recommend as, at least I not knowing the business here, was hoping it would be these heavenly angels that would massage me.

So anyways, bill before starting approx 450k. And then a couple of beers in the bar etc. When you are ready the beautiful hostessess/sales girls take you by the arm and guides you into the massage area.

Once in the room the massage girl arrived. Nowhere near the vixens out front, but pleasant and smiling. No English from her and No bahasa from my end made things rather complicated but we might have gotten something right. Massage w hot stones is really nice but oh my lord how slow this was. She was good at massage but 2 hours felt really long. Towards the end she asked if I wanted extra massage, which I did. But for that she wanted 200-300k. I had previsouly burn almost all cash so I shoed her my empty wallet which contained only 35k and she was happy with that. So she started her HJ. Tried to touch but she said that was not possible the first night. But if I came back tomorrow I would be able to touch and do whatever I wanted. That thought enough made me cum which seemed to surprise her immensly. Said I would be back the day after but the HJ was not that good and having all you guys have written here thought I could more milage for my buck elsewhere.

Total bill about 550k for a pretty good massage and a half bad HJ. Feeling ripped off.

Admittedly facilities are really nice. Clean and modern, several pools, jacuzzies, a small gym, etc etc. Massage rooms nicely lit and well decorated. So to sum up, I think I would have been satisfied thinking I was going to an upmarket spa with no extras, but expecting some special treatment and only receiving this dulled the experience a bit. Also felt cheated on that "all in" thing, there was far from "all in" for me.

I have been to Delta many times (not Kuningan branch) always go for the 2 x 45min session. HJ is always included. Some touching too if you get the right girl. Only ever tipped once.

[Raverboy]

...So, I thought to myself, how could I, THE Panya, a man of almost half a century of existence, a sperm trail that reads like an airline (i.e. 40 cities in 22 contries across 5 continents)...

I wanna be you when I grow up. Can I call you papa?

[Panya]

... B69, KLGuy, Panya, Acerboy, Links and Adeon, Jakarta's economy is crying out for you guys. MD II

Look who's talking ... missing for more than a year, and he says he misses us.

Bro, it's still once a week trips for me la, just that after getting a taste of Miss D, decided to go back to my regular KTV haunts, less entanglements (??). By the way, Bro Menteng, Mrs. E at KCB asked where you've been.

I stayed at Mulia about 3 weeks back, and decided to order a room massage. The MLs now show up with a tray containing ginger tea, and some mixed fruits, and their "new" uniform looks real CATCHY ... as in it's full of hooks/buttons/catches that it's a real challenge to even slide a finger thru. Don't know the reason behind the tray of goodies, but thought that it's to project a more professional image for them when they're in the elevator on the way up.

Anyway, she's 21 yrs old, from Bogor, and used to work in Tropical (did I get the name right? The spa behind Le Meridien). Just started her 1st month at Mulia.

Fair skinned, standing 5ft 5in, firm body, and A-cup ..... okay okay, we have to go for different varieties. Well, I liked her very much, as she was 7.5/10 in looks, so clean, fresh breath, and very, very good massage skills. So much so, that after doing my back, I told her to skip the front, and let's go for the daily special. To which she replied that she's actually not really good at sex ... to which I replied that, "I am!".

She said that its quite expensive to have sex, as the rate is Rp 1 million .... okay okay. Anyway, she undressed, let her hair down, and stood there in a lacy, turquoise matching bra and panties. Wow! She really got into it .... deep french kiss that was just so full of emotion that my toes curled, and emitted the right ooh-s and aaaahh-s when I kissed her neck, nipples, navel ... by the time I got to her pussy, it was really dribbling. Guys, the last time I had something like this while mongering was .... I can't remember.

DATY was like a feast for kings, as her juices were thick, odorless, and tasted like Grade-AA shark fins soup with just the perfect dash of vinegar added. We did it twice, and as she was dressing, she acted the little girl and complained that I had kissed away all her lipstick, and it would be obvious to her colleagues what had happened.

I did ask her when her off-day was, and so happened it was the next day ... so I invited her out. The next day, we chatted on the phone and agreed to meet at Plaza Senayan. I asked her not to show up in jeans, and she agreed. Guys, I was really looking to immerse myself in a much forgotten teenaged date, and really couldn't wait for the time to arrive.

At 7.00pm, she's waiting at Plaza Senayan, and when I met her, I was astounded! She had put on a long, slinky, black cocktail dress, a bit conservative in cut, but the effect was such that she looked like anyone of those wealthy shoppers. She immediately walked over to me, and slipped her hand around my right arm. When I found out that she had never tried Japanese food, I took her to Sushi Sei.

When we walked in to the restaurant, it was 3/4 full of mainly Japanese diners, but almost everyone turned to have a look at us. To this day, I am not sure whether it was the sight of an old guy with a sweet chick on his arm, but my ego tells me that it's because we made such a lovely couple.

I went for the works, ordering sashimi and various delectable Japanese condiments for her to try. Alas, my poor innocent gal was overwhelmed by the sophistication of the cuisine, and whispered softly in my ear, "I don't like Japanese food!"

After dinner, we walked hand-in-hand out of Plaza Senayan, while my head kept rotating, just in case Miss D was around PS herself. We ended up together in Roppongi Papa karaoke with some Indonesian friends ... where she ordered ... coffee. We sang, we danced, and I drank and drank of the night's magic.

Unfortunately, she could not follow me back to Mulia, as they are not allowed to patronize the place where they work. So, I bid her adieu, with promises of seeing each other again ringing in my ear as I laid my head on my pillow and drifted off to replay the entire night in my dreams.

On my next trip, I reserved a different hotel, and she stayed with me for 3 nights, leaving for work when I did, and then returning each night and we bonked like rabbits. I bought her some Bulgari perfume, and she hugged me when I presented it to her, and immediately searched through her purse and gave me an Rp 5,000 note. When she saw the puzzled look on my face, she said that its a custom (mitos was the word she used) that when one receives a present, one should return with a gift, else the relationship will be quarrelsome ..... aduh! I felt something dripping down my thighs, I looked down, and realised that it was my heart melting.

On that trip, I came back to the room earlier the next day, and when I opened the closet to hang my clothes, saw some ladies clothes hanging there, freshly laundered and pressed from the hotel laundry. Hmmm ... I had a previous experience of bringing someone back to the room, and she brought a suitcase of clothes to be laundered - I ended up being fleeced for the laundry bill.

So, I thought to myself, how could I, THE Panya, a man of almost half a century of existence, a sperm trail that reads like an airline (i.e. 40 cities in 22 contries across 5 continents), an esteemed member of the Mile High Club, how could I have misread the character of an innocent, that she was after all, a materialistic, opportunist???!!!! I contemplated retirement from the GFE scene at that point in time.

Well, she came back from work, and called out "Honey .... are you here?" My heart skipped a beat, as visions of happy matrimony flitted across my brain. I forced those disgusting images from my mind, and told her, "Your laundry came back." It was her turn to look puzzled, and when we went to check out the closet together, it wasn't her clothes! As it turned out, the hotel had delivered laundry to the wrong room ... how could I ever doubt her???

We have since spent the past 3 trips together, and I do look forward to my next trip next week. In order to keep up, I have been going through a concoction of Cialis, Viagra and Acer pills.

As I write this, I am taking steps to cancel my application for Permanent Residence in Thailand, and am applying for Indonesian PR ... that is, until this relationship ends ... as it surely will.

To all mongers visiting Jakarta, there's something here that you just cannot find in the anatomy of other women in other countries .. it's called the GFE-spot .. my advice is to look for it ... it's really not that hard to find in Jakarta. Sigh!

(BUT, now that MDII is back in town, I guess things will revert back to normal.)

Best,
Panya

[Raverboy]

Try a middle path. Maybe Allila in Pencenongan? Good four star kinda place, strategically close to Kota on one side but easy enough to get down south, busway and all, and classy enough not to scare too many prospects away. Used to have quite a good basement bar, might be your sort of place, don't know about now.

Yes, 'minimalist chic' but rooms are beginning to show their wear, as I recall. Overall I enjoyed my one-time stay there - excellent buffet breakfast. My only other complaint is that the food stalls on Pecenongan near the Alila tend to be mediocre, close early and try and rip you off knowing you just walked down the ramp from Alila and onto the street.

[Gonzo Two]

Goodbye to slummin' it in Kota, hello to Kemang pretentiousness!

Try a middle path. Maybe Allila in Pencenongan? Good four star kinda place, strategically close to Kota on one side but easy enough to get down south, busway and all, and classy enough not to scare too many prospects away. Used to have quite a good basement bar, might be your sort of place, don't know about now.

[Raverboy]

...I think Raverboy is not necessarily looking for "elite" girls but educated non-pros...

... They are supposedly VERY open to the idea of threesomes and foursomes or more (I'm still doing research on this and will call some fellow recreationers in once I can establish what they all look and behave like)...

...Regarding Dragonfly, I have a friend (who is very smooth) and he dropped his line on a girl (whom he'd been eyeing the whole night) at 2.30am. She was mid to late 20s and a senior person in a decent sized corporation. They ended up having a very meaningful 3 hour relationship and I believe he is still in touch with her. No financial transaction - just taking care of deep biological needs.

Opportunities abound in Jakarta and we'd be foolish not to keep an open mind and not make assumptions; a couple of years back, I met someone in CJs who turned down all-comers but managed to get her number... ... We went to Retro and althugh she came back to Mulia with me (at midnight) she could not stay as she had brought her driver ...

Under the circumstances though, I would assume that you dont necessarily have to stay in a top notch hotel, but maybe a Kota hotel would not be the best idea. At least, Manhattan, Park Lane, Grand Kemang or somewhere like that would be good enough...

You've got it bang on, bro! That last paragraph sums up what I have gathered to be the answer to my question. Goodbye to slummin' it in Kota, hello to Kemang pretentiousness!

Now, if only I can find one or two "educated non-pros" (such as the types you and your friend have encountered) who are 1) closet Kota-partyers, 2) open to threesomes and 3) have lots of beautiful female friends!

I'd move to Jakarta faster than you can say "lama di djakarta dong!"