Jakarta

[Gonzo Two]

Goodbye to slummin' it in Kota, hello to Kemang pretentiousness!

Try a middle path. Maybe Allila in Pencenongan? Good four star kinda place, strategically close to Kota on one side but easy enough to get down south, busway and all, and classy enough not to scare too many prospects away. Used to have quite a good basement bar, might be your sort of place, don't know about now.

[Raverboy]

...I think Raverboy is not necessarily looking for "elite" girls but educated non-pros...

... They are supposedly VERY open to the idea of threesomes and foursomes or more (I'm still doing research on this and will call some fellow recreationers in once I can establish what they all look and behave like)...

...Regarding Dragonfly, I have a friend (who is very smooth) and he dropped his line on a girl (whom he'd been eyeing the whole night) at 2.30am. She was mid to late 20s and a senior person in a decent sized corporation. They ended up having a very meaningful 3 hour relationship and I believe he is still in touch with her. No financial transaction - just taking care of deep biological needs.

Opportunities abound in Jakarta and we'd be foolish not to keep an open mind and not make assumptions; a couple of years back, I met someone in CJs who turned down all-comers but managed to get her number... ... We went to Retro and althugh she came back to Mulia with me (at midnight) she could not stay as she had brought her driver ...

Under the circumstances though, I would assume that you dont necessarily have to stay in a top notch hotel, but maybe a Kota hotel would not be the best idea. At least, Manhattan, Park Lane, Grand Kemang or somewhere like that would be good enough...

You've got it bang on, bro! That last paragraph sums up what I have gathered to be the answer to my question. Goodbye to slummin' it in Kota, hello to Kemang pretentiousness!

Now, if only I can find one or two "educated non-pros" (such as the types you and your friend have encountered) who are 1) closet Kota-partyers, 2) open to threesomes and 3) have lots of beautiful female friends!

I'd move to Jakarta faster than you can say "lama di djakarta dong!"

[Traveler1234]

Sounds dubious. If I read your question correctly, you want to seek where the locals go hunting? Well the locals tend to go for a different crowd than the one that hangs around BATs. But I'm curious too - any ideas out there?
MD II

I'd ask JAD this question. Certainly many of the places he showed me my last trip are patronized by locals, no?

[Master Diver II]

Anyone know a place similar setting to Bats but frequent by more local men?

Sounds dubious. If I read your question correctly, you want to seek where the locals go hunting? Well the locals tend to go for a different crowd than the one that hangs around BATs. You find some locals and Asian expats around CJs; I have seen quite a few at the spas around town and quick fix places so to speak. Other than that, I know some go for the mall-hunting sene. But I'm curious too - any ideas out there? Or is it similar to some of us in KL - we dont go for the bar scene (too risky) and end up in the spas etc; occasionally when we find some girls, we will arrange for a more discrete rendezvous or go to places where family and family friends do not frequent. I personally like to stay in the hotel room and conduct "meaningful discussions".

MD II

[Master Diver II]

Ok, so I am a daft newbie. Totally new to the scene, but at least I had the sense of reading quite a bit of the posts here. Thank you all. But that did not help. I guess it all comes down to a first time is a first time and experience like all you seem to have does not come from just reading posts.

Prices start at about 300. 000 for a 2x45 min session but they "strongly recommend" a third session. This is just for the using the facilities. Cost for aroma, hot stone, shiatsu etc all come on top of this.

The friendly Britons explained a bit to me that the price is an "all in" price and no tipping required. I did not ask what all in meant but was hoping for a real all in.

Absolutely gorgeous, stunning, amazingly pretty and sexy girls in black skimpy outifts act as some sort of sales to try to get you to add on various services. It is damn difficult not to go along with what they recommend as, at least I not knowing the business here, was hoping it would be these heavenly angels that would massage me.

So anyways, bill before starting approx 450k. And then a couple of beers in the bar etc. When you are ready the beautiful hostessess/sales girls take you by the arm and guides you into the massage area.

Once in the room the massage girl arrived. Nowhere near the vixens out front, but pleasant and smiling. No English from her and No bahasa from my end made things rather complicated but we might have gotten something right.

Towards the end she asked if I wanted extra massage, which I did. But for that she wanted 200-300k. I had previsouly burn almost all cash so I shoed her my empty wallet which contained only 35k and she was happy with that. So she started her HJ. Tried to touch but she said that was not possible the first night. But if I came back tomorrow I would be able to touch and do whatever I wanted. That thought enough made me cum which seemed to surprise her immensly. Said I would be back the day after but the HJ was not that good and having all you guys have written here thought I could more milage for my buck elsewhere.

Total bill about 550k for a pretty good massage and a half bad HJ. Feeling ripped off.

Bro, I can sympathise with you but there have been several reports on Delta Spa which clearly outline the situation here. I'd be the first to admit that the captains in black can be quite stunning but so are some of the girls (the trouble is you dont get to see them and dont get to choose from a line up). 450k before starting? You must have taken a VIP room. The price is all inclusive of HJ but it's advisable to tip the girls as they rely on the tips to supplement their meagre income. Your girl is correct as if you repeat, you can get more out of their service. If they like you they will give their mobile number. They may request that you come at 10pm to be the last customer and then they can leave with you after that. If you see any girls on your way in or out that are attractive, dont be shy to ask them what their Spa number is.

Btw Jad, I keep coming across a lot of girls from Subang or nearby there, I guess Rianti's mum must have been a busy lady.

MD II

[Master Diver II]

you've got other good feedback on your question from xxl and prosal, both of whom make excellent valid points. as you say, you do have an advantage over most bules if you can tune in to their speech; even i, with limited bahasa indo can tell the difference between educated girls and others. street girls use a lot of language (often bahasa sekong) which even most indonesian girls don't understand. although it's not infallible, even their english is a good guide - and i don't mean fluency, many girls are fluent in english but you can tell they've learned it in the street and who they've learned it from. maybe i should say from whom they have learned it?! education is a key point: broadly "upmarket" = educated and it's a better criterion than what they are wearing or their lv accessories which frankly, may only point to their skills in elicting cash/gifts from stupid naive bules! how many lv bags do you think an astute fellow like me has ever bought?! no answers from ms please.

bro, you really should have avoided that last line. even ms's response was more muted than it could have been. i think raverboy is not necessarily looking for "elite" girls but educated non-pros. looking at the clubs he mentioned (especially x2 and dragonfly): there should be a number of college students from reasonably well off families frequenting these locations. what i have noticed is that they tend to be a bit more cliquey in kemang (i could be wrong) but more open in these locations.

i do know an indonesian college girl studying in kl. she tells me her friends here are out just for the fun of it. but if you're stupid enough to spoil the market and shower them with presents, they're hardly going to refuse. i did talk more in depth and she told me her other friends in jakarta are very similarly minded (they frequent places like x2). they are supposedly very open to the idea of threesomes and foursomes or more (i'm still doing research on this and will call some fellow recreationers in once i can establish what they all look and behave like). she also tells me her sister is interested to have some fun with me too - possibly together with her - that would be a first for me (not that i mind:d)

regarding dragonfly, i have a friend (who is very smooth) and he dropped his line on a girl (whom he'd been eyeing the whole night) at 2.30am. she was mid to late 20s and a senior person in a decent sized corporation. they ended up having a very meaningful 3 hour relationship and i believe he is still in touch with her. no financial transaction - just taking care of deep biological needs.

opportunities abound in jakarta and we'd be foolish not to keep an open mind and not make assumptions; a couple of years back, i met someone in cjs who turned down all-comers but managed to get her number. she came to meet me with her friend when i was with menteng in hard rock the next day with a friend. we went to retro and althugh she came back to mulia with me (at midnight) she could not stay as she had brought her driver - hence we were supposedly having supper. after a very wild time she promised me she would not bring her driver the next night so she could stay over. i did meet her for several trips after that but no money or gift was mentioned - although it is always assumed you pick up the dinner/drinks tab. i also did buy a few gifts (although no lv or nokia:d) there was some chanel perfume and guess apparel involved. as they say, you'll end up paying some way or another.

under the circumstances though, i would assume that you dont necessarily have to stay in a top notch hotel, but maybe a kota hotel would not be the best idea. at least, manhattan, park lane, grand kemang or somewhere like that would be good enough.

whilst i'm at it, i'd like to express my thanks to menteng and jad for the the last few entertaining trips. sorry i didn't get to bump into knight1001. maybe i'll get to meet another of you guys next trip (next week). b69, klguy, panya, acerboy, links and adeon, jakarta's economy is crying out for you guys.

md ii

[FieldMouse]

Walk into Mal Ambasador, go up to the 2nd floor (two floors above the floor you enter on) and head over to the bridge that connects Mal Ambasador with the ITC-Kuningan building (where Carrefour is located).

Once you step down two steps onto the crossing bridge, the second stall on your right-hand side is the stall that sells Viagra/Cialis/Levitra. There are usually at least two young girls on duty who will immediately call out to you and ask you to buy the viagra, etc. They also sell some sex toys there, if I'm not mistaken.

Thats right, they sell sex toys, but yesterday I was in the basement (closer to carrefour) and went past the 2nd stall, guess what, viagra started at 200k and I bargained for 170. Same girls as 2nd floor stall, so I imagine it will be the same product not some shitty, head-ache inducing rip of the real thing. I will be going back there tomorrow so will have to pay attention how to get to the basement stall and give directions, its not on one of the main pathways, you have to twist and turn a bit to get to it. Not as big as the crossover stall, and nowhere near the variety of goodies, but viag/cialis available.

[Member #3088]

Ok, so I am a daft newbie. Totally new to the scene, but at least I had the sense of reading quite a bit of the posts here. Thank you all. But that did not help. I guess it all comes down to a first time is a first time and experience like all you seem to have does not come from just reading posts.

Anyways, most of the posts are about Kota. As I generally stay south Kota can be hours away. Another area that has been mentioned a few times but less enthusiastic is Gran Wijaya, but that can also be hours in bad traffic. So I asked the Silver bird driver of any places near Crowne Plaza. Delta Spa in Kuningan was the place he took me to. Got a feeling that this would be expensive when seeing all the Mercs and BMWs standing up front, but once in the lobby and this crowd of Britons came in I felt I could not walk away.

Prices start at about 300. 000 for a 2x45 min session but they "strongly recommend" a third session. This is just for the using the facilities. Cost for aroma, hot stone, shiatsu etc all come on top of this.

The friendly Britons explained a bit to me that the price is an "all in" price and no tipping required. I did not ask what all in meant but was hoping for a real all in. They also explained that you need to take their recommendations on sessions and massages or the extras would not appear. You can enjoy the facilities for as long as you want which is great and when you feel ready you walk up the stairs to the second floor to book you massage. Absolutely gorgeous, stunning, amazingly pretty and sexy girls in black skimpy outifts act as some sort of sales to try to get you to add on various services. It is damn difficult not to go along with what they recommend as, at least I not knowing the business here, was hoping it would be these heavenly angels that would massage me.

So anyways, bill before starting approx 450k. And then a couple of beers in the bar etc. When you are ready the beautiful hostessess/sales girls take you by the arm and guides you into the massage area.

Once in the room the massage girl arrived. Nowhere near the vixens out front, but pleasant and smiling. No English from her and No bahasa from my end made things rather complicated but we might have gotten something right. Massage w hot stones is really nice but oh my lord how slow this was. She was good at massage but 2 hours felt really long. Towards the end she asked if I wanted extra massage, which I did. But for that she wanted 200-300k. I had previsouly burn almost all cash so I shoed her my empty wallet which contained only 35k and she was happy with that. So she started her HJ. Tried to touch but she said that was not possible the first night. But if I came back tomorrow I would be able to touch and do whatever I wanted. That thought enough made me cum which seemed to surprise her immensly. Said I would be back the day after but the HJ was not that good and having all you guys have written here thought I could more milage for my buck elsewhere.

Total bill about 550k for a pretty good massage and a half bad HJ. Feeling ripped off.

Admittedly facilities are really nice. Clean and modern, several pools, jacuzzies, a small gym, etc etc. Massage rooms nicely lit and well decorated. So to sum up, I think I would have been satisfied thinking I was going to an upmarket spa with no extras, but expecting some special treatment and only receiving this dulled the experience a bit. Also felt cheated on that "all in" thing, there was far from "all in" for me.

Policy at delta is three sessions includes happy ending. This why the staff 'strongly recommend' three sessions: they want you to be happy! Not clear from your post if you paid for two sessions or three; if three, she shouldn't have asked for a tip.

Very unlikely to get more than HJ at delta.

[Nightowl1974]

Ok, so I am a daft newbie. Totally new to the scene, but at least I had the sense of reading quite a bit of the posts here. Thank you all. But that did not help. I guess it all comes down to a first time is a first time and experience like all you seem to have does not come from just reading posts.

Anyways, most of the posts are about Kota. As I generally stay south Kota can be hours away. Another area that has been mentioned a few times but less enthusiastic is Gran Wijaya, but that can also be hours in bad traffic. So I asked the Silver bird driver of any places near Crowne Plaza. Delta Spa in Kuningan was the place he took me to. Got a feeling that this would be expensive when seeing all the Mercs and BMWs standing up front, but once in the lobby and this crowd of Britons came in I felt I could not walk away.

Prices start at about 300. 000 for a 2x45 min session but they "strongly recommend" a third session. This is just for the using the facilities. Cost for aroma, hot stone, shiatsu etc all come on top of this.

The friendly Britons explained a bit to me that the price is an "all in" price and no tipping required. I did not ask what all in meant but was hoping for a real all in. They also explained that you need to take their recommendations on sessions and massages or the extras would not appear. You can enjoy the facilities for as long as you want which is great and when you feel ready you walk up the stairs to the second floor to book you massage. Absolutely gorgeous, stunning, amazingly pretty and sexy girls in black skimpy outifts act as some sort of sales to try to get you to add on various services. It is damn difficult not to go along with what they recommend as, at least I not knowing the business here, was hoping it would be these heavenly angels that would massage me.

So anyways, bill before starting approx 450k. And then a couple of beers in the bar etc. When you are ready the beautiful hostessess/sales girls take you by the arm and guides you into the massage area.

Once in the room the massage girl arrived. Nowhere near the vixens out front, but pleasant and smiling. No English from her and No bahasa from my end made things rather complicated but we might have gotten something right. Massage w hot stones is really nice but oh my lord how slow this was. She was good at massage but 2 hours felt really long. Towards the end she asked if I wanted extra massage, which I did. But for that she wanted 200-300k. I had previsouly burn almost all cash so I shoed her my empty wallet which contained only 35k and she was happy with that. So she started her HJ. Tried to touch but she said that was not possible the first night. But if I came back tomorrow I would be able to touch and do whatever I wanted. That thought enough made me cum which seemed to surprise her immensly. Said I would be back the day after but the HJ was not that good and having all you guys have written here thought I could more milage for my buck elsewhere.

Total bill about 550k for a pretty good massage and a half bad HJ. Feeling ripped off.

Admittedly facilities are really nice. Clean and modern, several pools, jacuzzies, a small gym, etc etc. Massage rooms nicely lit and well decorated. So to sum up, I think I would have been satisfied thinking I was going to an upmarket spa with no extras, but expecting some special treatment and only receiving this dulled the experience a bit. Also felt cheated on that "all in" thing, there was far from "all in" for me.

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[Barson]

Yes, with 285,000 rupiahs...you will get a class of hotel room and a young gal.
I believe still the best bordell in JKT.

Not all the WG in Hotel Travel will give ass licking, and please do not overpay (tip) next time in Travel brother. 50,000 rupiahs is enough I think.

Good report Barson !

I see.

Will be more careful with the tipping next time. But I can say it has been 3 weekd in a row with this ass licking act by 3 different gals that's why I thought must be new world standard!

Could be becuase I chose to go to the deep inside room next to the toilet. Good products quality, poor product placing, therefore better service?

Anyone know a place similar setting to Bats but frequent by more local men?

[Memekman]

by the time i had breakfast this morning i found myself longing for release probably as a result of dreaming and fantasizing about jakarta ceweks and their juicy pussies all of last night! since i had an opportunity slot between 10 and 1130 am, what else could i do but set off for maribaya this despite having resolved to visit the mps of kota on my next mongering expedition !

i arrived just after 10 to find a single cewek, eva, sitting at the bar drinking coffee. since her face and figure were quite good, it made my task much easier- i didn't have to waste time in choosing someone else. when she undressed in the room, i saw that her body was trim and her boobs were better than the average indo. it was quite a revelation when she told me that she was thirty and had two kids.

anyway, to cut a long story short, we got down to business. although the bbbj was average, i was able to make her come twice while she sucked me and gave me a mandi cucing. it was difficult to enter her in doggy as she seemed quite dry despite having come twice. i stopped her just in time from using baby oil recalling ms's last experience here. i used to carry ky jelly earlier after seeing that the girls in kartika use saliva as lubricant but stopped doing so as the tube is bulky to be carried easily in the pocket and as most girls in alexis and malioboro seemed to carry it in their toilet bags.

anyway, i managed to enter her as she lowered herself slowly in cowboy. she wanted to speed up the pace and i had grab her thighs to stop her from time to time to stop myself from coming too soon. we switched to doggie and i was able to make her come a third time as i played with her with my hand while lodged firmly inside. but i must say that the beds in maribaya are not only a bit soft but also a bit too low for energetic fucking. moreover, the floor is usually slightly wet after the shower, so doing it doggie style while standing on the floor was quite a feat! i came soon after her and after a ten minute massage called it a day.

total damages as usual 400k +100k tip. rating: looks 8, figure 8, gfe-7 bbbj-7, fs-8. overall-8

[Oyenk]

[QUOTE=Barson]
For those know Lokasari plaza, come out of the plaza, turn left and then first right at the first traffic light. Go down the road for 150mtr max and it is on your left with large open parking.

[QUOTE]
Barson post reminds me an info in Lokasari parking area, if you happen to park your car or have something to do in Lokasari plasa...actually this parking area (which located in front of hotel Prinsen Park, some drugstore and before KFC) is a place where some chinese freelance will offer themself in the afternoon til night and they have Papasan and Mamasan too.
Rate around 400,000 rupiahs per 2 hours (in their room), they rent rooms around Lokasari area. This rate is including the room.

I remember one of the WG was Lucy (she's around 38-40 right now but most of them around 25-30 yero). Some rumour said that they're from Mainland (PRC) but other said that they're from Singkawang (Kalimantan/Borneo-Indonesia)


Just keep your eyes open after you get in entrance on Lokasari Plasa.
Thanks Barson...your post reminds me an info !

cheers.

[Oyenk]

Went to Kota 3pm after a good experience with Travel hotel the last time.

I will have to say that a 285k pricing for all and a good 70+ girl to choose from, must be one of the best deal around town today.

One thing about this place I found very well standardized was the BBBJ, balls lickiing and ass licking. Very soothing and no need to ask which is good.

A tip of 100k but she earned it after a long BJ session.

Cheers

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Yes, with 285,000 rupiahs...you will get a class of hotel room and a young gal.
I believe still the best bordell in JKT.

Not all the WG in Hotel Travel will give ass licking, and please do not overpay (tip) next time in Travel brother. 50,000 rupiahs is enough I think.

Good report Barson !

[Aakumu]

Reminded me about a question I've been meaning to pose the Jakarta regulars:

I usually stay in the Kota/Mangga Besar area when I visit Jakarta to play. Consequently I would frequent the non-P4P clubs in that area and pull the odd FL or two. However on my next visit I'd like to try the more upmarket non-P4P clubs (Red Sq., X2, etc.). Knowing how status-conscious some of these girls are (at least amongst those that frequent the more upmarket places), would you think staying in a decent hotel but in the RLD such as Kota is going to have them turn up their noses at me?

Or maybe I should just stay in the south next time. I like the Kota/Mangga Besar area, sleazy as it is, for the obvious reasons - everything is available and the street food is excellent!

Hi bro,

Kota do have ibis hotel and Red top is not to low class by any means.

And to compare sari pan pacific to Red top is hands down RT is better.

That is my humble.

[Battu Co]

Also the fact that an outrageously wealthy guy goes partying from time to time in Kota with some of his buddies and a dozen of high-octane semi-hoes is not representative of the JKT elites social life. As I said below, north of Monas is a no-go area for this group. It's a pure fact.

True. But if there is an exception, stadium is the place. But I think the so called elite group only go there after hip clubs in the south are closed