Jakarta

[Knight 1001]

.... yahoo chat doesn't appear on my drop down 'messenger' menu, perhaps I need to download something, never mind, thanks anyway.

You need to download and install the latest version, 8.1 I believe, of Yahoo messenger, then you should get it.

Cheers

[Cooze Hound]

Maybe you should visit jl. Falatehan again, my friend . As you know, you will be swarmed by SYT's looking for your company. Tell them what you want and that's it. BTW, let the one who is interested, pick her own lesbian partner. As they are not tied to any place, no "bar-fine" either.

Good advice. Trouble is you are most likely to get a "show lesbian" performance.. a bit of kissing and rubbing. There are however some genuinely Bi girls on the Blok who will set up the real thing, it may just take a bit more time to get to know who is up for it.

[Dorman]

Great info, many thanks. What's the Web site? Sounds like it's worth a look, especially for those who would like to move beyond "ayam kampung."

It's lovehappens.com, surprisingly, you'll find a few girls more cerebral than you'll find in Top Gun there.

Bulai69, thanks for the help, yahoo chat doesn't appear on my drop down 'messenger' menu, perhaps I need to download something, never mind, thanks anyway.

[Menteng]

I got a question: My friend, and indonesian guy will get married in a month. So me and some other guys, indonesian an expats, are looking forward to organize some nasty stuff..
He told us that he wants to get laid. Well, wouldn't be a problem..
He also told me that he is going nuts about two girls making love to each other, where he can join in. He never had this experience..
Does anybody have any idea, where I could get two girls for such kind of thing.
Thought about asking around in the 6th floor, but other than that, I have no idea.
Does anybody from this forum have any??

Thanks
Sabbath

Maybe you should visit jl. Falatehan again, my friend . As you know, you will be swarmed by SYT's looking for your company. Tell them what you want and that's it. BTW, let the one who is interested, pick her own lesbian partner. As they are not tied to any place, no "bar-fine" either.

[The Exile]

2 I met in Red Square, both having a job. One of them earns even more than me.. Both of them come to visit me in their own car.

Would love to know the best time to go to Red Square to meet business girls. Every time I go it's just packs of friends. I'd like to meet and mate a girl with a brain.

As for the threesomes: just go to Kartika. They always offer. Pick a girl then suggest she bring a friend. If you like them, get their HP numbers and make any offline arrangements you'd like!

[The Exile]

Went to Blok M last night, found it somewhat disappointing. Top Gun had the most girls, but so many that my weary mind couldn't make a decision. Other bars were dead, except for D's Place. So I had a couple drinks and watched some beauties dancing.

I joined a couple of ceweks and bought drinks. They flirted but mostly talked amongst themselves, and how they had to support their kids. When I paid the bill, they suddenly announced they were tired and wanted to go home. I was actually rejected on the grounds of menstration. This did not stop them for asking for taxi fare, which I gave them, being a total idiot.

Just before I left I popped upstairs to see what was going on. Not much. But I was super knackered so I left. And who did I meet on the way down? My two girls, on their way up!! They said their jeans were upstairs, but I expect I was just milked. But given how tired I was (jet lag) it was probably just as well.

On the street, near Oscar's, I was accosted by some lookers on motorbikes but I was just too tired to go through the hassle.

[The Exile]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned "Love Happens" in the discussion so far, I've found it to be very happy hunting ground, I always be completely truthful about myself, marital status, religion etc and have had no difficulty scoring some very memorable connections there.

Great info, many thanks. What's the Web site? Sounds like it's worth a look, especially for those who would like to move beyond "ayam kampung."

[Bulai69]

I'm glad your mall hunting technique has been fine tuned - always happy to hear about some specifics, especially venue, time, quality, cost - as I'm sure other readers will be.

As for YM, I'm not Bill Gates in respect of Internet use (or wealth, contrary to what many Indo girls think). But here is a step by step guide:

1. Open up YM as you describe and on the panel to which you refer, click on "Messenger" on the top left hand corner

2. This will give you a drop-down menu

3. Move down to "Yahoo! chat" and across to "Join a room"

4. In the centre of that panel, select your desired location (Indonesia)

5. This will give you a list of "rooms" in the right hand box.

6. Click on the + for e.g. Jakarta, this will give you an expanded list of 20-odd "rooms", click on any one.

7. This will give you another panel - click on "Enter chat" at top of that panel after it has loaded.

8. You are almost there! Go through the security process which is self explanatory and then you will be "in" the room with the list of names down the right hand side.

9. Click on the name you fancy and send an "Instant message" such a "hello, I am from London, may I chat with you please". Alternatively you can input a message to everyone in the room saying "any girl want to chat with bule man from london". I don't recommend that myself as it's likely to yield the "wrong" kind of girl (or gay man).

Once you get used to it, this only takes a minute or so (honest).

[Dorman]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned "Love Happens" in the discussion so far, I've found it to be very happy hunting ground, I always be completely truthful about myself, marital status, religion etc and have had no difficulty scoring some very memorable connections there. So much so that like others I don't bother that much with the bar scene anymore.

As others have mentioned it simply requires a little bit of patience, time to cultivate a relationship (not that much time, a few emails, sms's and a coffee usually prove more than sufficient). Although LH has slowed down a bit, at the start about a year ago I was hooking them in a rate that actually allowed me to not bother with half of them, it is still a far better site than AFF which is full of nutters.

One question for Bula69, hello again by the way happy new year, you mentioned earlier chatting on YM, or "cetting" as the girls refer to it. Forgive me for sounding utterly jurassic but how do you get the list of names you described? When I open YM the only thing I see are a list of my "Yahoo" contacts, I never have found this long list of other chatters online at the same time. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for your help, I'm not so bad now at the Mall pickups you'll be glad to hear, a mere three years after you introduced me to the delights of same.

[ABCinLA]

Staying at the Golden Melawai (almost brand new) in an executive room for 565,000 per night (includes breakfast) got that at the airport hotel desk plus a private car to the hotel itself for 180,000 it was neat and easy. Figured even if I overpaid it can't be my much. Later headed over to the Melawai 6th floor late around 11pm as I didn't get into Jarkata until 830pm. I was later told by a couple of expats whom I met there the day shift was much better. It had to be as the night shift was pretty bad lots of older women maybe one or two 7s at best. Later hopped a ride with them over to Top Gun in Blok M. Fairly decent supply of 7.5s plus 8 pluses, of course a fair amount of over the hill providers hanging around. My new buddies were semi regulars and had a "hostess" assisting them in getting girls and drinks. I was there just to observe as I was dead tired making it down from Hong Kong Airport from China after dental work in Shenzhen. I was going to take a cab to Hotel Alexis the next day; however had to recheck Melawai's day shift workers. Verified they were overall much younger and much better looking. Took one 25 year old who in the dark lights looked 20. Her BBBJ is much better than the average one I get in China if at all. So maybe Hotel Alexis for another day.

[Bulai69]

I suggest to try friendster (or maybe other sites where you can search). On fs you can search on "interests" and with a bit of trial and error you can find girls interested in most things. I just tried a search on "threesome" and around 30 girls appeared - many will be invalid but I guess you only need two or three genuine ones - 10% is a hit rate you should exceed. Also try "lesbian" (or better, "lesbi"). A more immediate solution might be to try the usual pick-up places and just get two girls who will go along with what you want. I found two such girls in 30bar (I posted pics a while ago) who did some lesbian stuff and I "had " both of them in a good session.

[Sabbath]

Hello everyone

Has been a while since I posted a report.. Well, I have nothing special to report.. Exept maybe, that the longer I stay here, the less I get it, hehehe..
Currently having 4 relationships.
1 is married with an expat. He is leaving the country quite often, so I got called called quite often, hehehe. 2 I met in Red Square, both having a job. One of them earns even more than me.. Both of them come to visit me in their own car. And last but not least and SPG. Not that wild right now, so not much to report...

I got a question: My friend, and indonesian guy will get married in a month. So me and some other guys, indonesian an expats, are looking forward to organize some nasty stuff..
He told us that he wants to get laid. Well, wouldn't be a problem..
He also told me that he is going nuts about two girls making love to each other, where he can join in. He never had this experience..
Does anybody have any idea, where I could get two girls for such kind of thing.
Thought about asking around in the 6th floor, but other than that, I have no idea.
Does anybody from this forum have any??

Thanks
Sabbath

[Rainman 2108]

Smoothy, I have to agree with your observations. As a frequent Blok M visitor, most girls know me by sight at least. They know from gossip that I have a few favorites, they then know that I will help out with pulsa etc from time to time. They know that I do not mistreat them and they know that they will usually get repeat business from me. To this end I still pay 400K a night. The girls know that I am not going to shag them senseless all night and they have a chance of a good sleep with a second lazy bout in the morning.
Occasionally when I approach a new girl if she asks about money I almost invariably walk away. Whilst the above may not work for all, it stands me in good stead in my neck of the woods.

Yup.... All my time spent in Blk M. I have never ever asked "how much"? I guess it is natural for us that the girls are there to find some money and we there for some companionship...lolz... We meet talk and if I like, they just follow us back... All just like old friend.....

My last were all about 350k in the morning......

Cheers

[Pak Mike]

I think this is an Indonesian solution to the prostitution conundrum. I am not a prostitute because I don't ask for money. However, I do expect to have some compensation is a nicely Indonesian way of avoiding the self recrimination of prostitution.

And then there is the other category I refer to as "good girls" that have received some coverage recently, those contacted through various websites (I have used faceparty) and are not "on the game". A bit of time and effort required initially, but I have maintained a few of these relationships for more than 3 years in JKT and made various posts about these.

Interesting thing I have noticed with these relationships is that all these expectations of perhaps getting married etc. that we are occasionally confronted with are just a facade of maintaining respectability, and another nice Indonesian way of avoiding self recrimination of being a "bad girl" for having sex outside of marriage. Have called the bluff on two of my "good girls" and they both backed off, much preferring to have their freedom and their regular no-strings sex with someone they can trust. It is wonderful pragmatism on their part as they have good jobs and all the freedom in the world. In the end they are just interested in the sex, but want to appear "good girls".

[Bulai69]

I was somewhat alarmed by XXL's assessment, though encouraged by Smoothy's report with which I sympathise. It's only a month since I was in JKT so I don't think things have changed much in that time. For what it's worth, I have almost never discussed money "up front" and even less frequently have I agreed a figure up-front and taken the girl home. I can well understand why some people do and on the face of it, it makes sense and in theory, avoids problems later.

However, I think there is a very strong correlation between those girls who negotiate up front and those who over-charge and perhaps, even, provide poor service. Clearly they are engaging in a purely commercial transaction and likely to behave accordingly throughout the whole process - including, trying to extract more money afterwards if only for the "taxi", not to mention their younger brother's school fees, their sick parents in hospital etc etc. Even if you don't cave in to that, I think it costs more overall which is what XXL has reported.

Any girl who doesn't discuss money up front is less likely to be a full time hooker and probably therefore less likely to be "mechanical" in her approach. Also at a pragmatic level, even if she is thoroughly commercial, she is likely to work harder to please (including if course, providing the right GFE) in order to justify asking for more than you offer at the end - which understandably, they will always do. I can't recall ever having a problem of any kind by adopting the approach of not negotiating up front; at today's prices I offer on average, 300k knowing that most times, they will imply or say it's not enough whereupon I will increase it to 400 - 600 (max).

All of the above is obviously a generalisation but it summarises my findings over quite a long time....