Jakarta

[Jkt After Dark 2]

Smoothy,

I am sorry if I offended you in such a way.

Guys,

First of all, I am sorry if my re swingers' party post caused flaming. I was trying to accommodate ISG Mongers who are in this lifestyle. Nothing else.

I didn't make these conditions up. It was the conditions set by these swingers. The reason is because these swingers are not convinced these girls are not bar girls. These conditions do not apply to foreign couples and mixed couples with Indonesian guys. How will a man feel if someone propose to swap his wife or girlfriend with a hooker? Try to put yourself in his position.

I tried to edit my re swingers' party post, but I couldn't find "Edit" button beside "Quote" button (I am already logged in). Perhaps Jackson decided to stop giving post editing priviledge to all members or only me because someone report my post as a bad post to Jackson without asking why this why that.

By the way, a newbie must pass a foursome initiation with the group organizer first before joining the real party. Couples must have some kind of relationships. All behaviors are observed during the initiation. In other word, you cannot just pick up a girl and expect this swinger group to accept you.

Thank you Traveler1234 for your advices.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[Smoothy]

JAD and I have known each other for about 7 years now. He's a good guy.

I don't know what you guys read out of that post. But here is what I saw:

Re: the party
1) Indo guys can join the sex party with any girl they want.
2) White guys can join ONLY if they bring a white woman (because it's every indo man's fantasy to be with a white woman - so they will stomach the white guy joining the party to be able to get a shot at his woman)

By mentioning I'd go find an ugly white woman to join the party, I was merely joking that there was a flaw in the logic of that party.

I don't see the need to exclude anyone based on race. I think the key should be that everyone has similar interests and similar looks. But honestly, I wouldn't join that party regardless of who they accepted.


If you do your hunting (or your wife works) down at JIS, I'm sorry that joke offended you. I'm sure there are some lovely ones there as well as ugly ones just like anywhere else in the world. I don't know where else you can find single white women in Jakarta, so I used that as the example.

[Knight 1001]

Thanks a lot for your help.....

Maybe Knight 1001 and Geriatno can give us a hint on this topic, for proper websites ?

I believe there has already been a discussion and answers in this forum sometime ago about this. Do a search to find it.

I usually use Friendster, Hi5, Faceparty and Asianeuro (paying site but well worth it). I use the latter like a trailing fishnet: fish always ends up being trapped at some point and all you have to do is haul it home hehehe ... it's already cooked.

I have scored from each one of them and 4 times out of 5, I managed to get laid on the first date, though with a litle of convincing, for some.

A very few never wanted to meet again after that but I couldn't care less as I find it difficult to keep up with what's on offer otherwise: not enough time ...

Happy good hunting.

Cheers

[Jkt After Dark 2]

Animal 23,

I can sponsor you to join a swinger party. But, they are only keen to invite local couples and foreign couples in particular. Mixed couples with Indonesian guys are oke. Mixed couples with Indonesian girls stay off limits.

Smoothy,

285k is the rate for new wing at 3rd floor.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[Oyenk]

It's 285k now at stadium? They have really raised their prices! I've never paid more than 220k there. Can someone else confirm that it's 285 now?

Could be, last time in the early 2007...I paid 257 k in cash and regular room.

cheers.

[Gonzo Two]

Entrance price to the disco was Rp. 60, 000 for which you receive a voucher for your first drink. We entered and were immediately under attack from the mamasan's and their brood of chicks. Me personally, I like to get my drink, cast my eye around and start to figure out what is what. In Stadium, you get no such chance to do that. Well eventually we all had our arms around little harlots. And it was here that the confusion begun.

The mamas do tend to hang around the door and pounce on likely candidates. However, if you walk on through, you're out of their zone. Inside, it's not such a heavy commercial scene, more FLs, girls out for a good time. I'd even go so far as to say that a fair portion are not there looking for a bule shag for the night, although some sure are.

Also, just to avoid any confusion, there's a disco on 4th floor, where the mamas have a branch running, just in case you forgot to BYO, and the MP on 3rd floor, where they have their HQ, and no-one even pretends its anything other than P4P.

And prices were well under 300 thou - forget exactly, rounded up to the three.

[Dezi Guy]

FM7 Airport hotels seems to be run by the same chain as the famous FM1 Boutique hotel near Mall Ciputra.

Is it a similar concept and are extras available at FM7 near the airport?

Anyone has any experiences?

[Smoothy]

It's 285k now at stadium? They have really raised their prices! I've never paid more than 220k there. Can someone else confirm that it's 285 now?

[Ozztraleearr]

Having been in Jakarta now for just over 10 months, thought it high time that I add a report.

I have done the rounds of most of the usual joints by now, with Blok M usually being my regular haunt.

Last Friday night was my first trip to Jakarta Kota. With a group of friends we first went to Mille's Karaoke. All the rooms were fully booked so we left there fairly quickly. We did check out the "fishbowl" none of the girls were particularly appealing. Although I will concede as the Karaoke rooms were all in use the more pretty girls may have already been taken. Which leads me to a question. In the fish bowl all the girls had toilet rolls with them. Why? Some fairly brutal and disgusting images were flashing through all our minds.

Leaving Mille's, we proceeded on a short walk to Today Country. No girls there at all. So we left.

At this point our party split up. Those on a short leash went home. While myself and two friends proceeded on our first ever foray to Stadium.

Entrance price to the disco was Rp. 60, 000 for which you receive a voucher for your first drink. We entered and were immediately under attack from the mamasan's and their brood of chicks. Me personally, I like to get my drink, cast my eye around and start to figure out what is what. In Stadium, you get no such chance to do that. Well eventually we all had our arms around little harlots. And it was here that the confusion begun.

My little friend. Who had delightful butt cleavage, enquired as to my interest in adjourning with her to a room upstairs. With great aplombe. I said "ya how much baby". And she advised that for 1 hour for the room the price was Rp. 285, 000. I smiled and asked. And for you? To which I received a small little smile and a shrug. I asked my friends what they had learnt. And one said his little friend had mentioned Rp. 700, 000. Figures like this of course leave me quaking in fear.

We extricated ourselves from what we believed was an expensive situation and decided to check out more of Stadium. On the way out we spoke to an Indonesian guy working there who, while laughing, educated us to the realities of mongering in Stadium. Those of you with more experience than I of course already know that the Rp 285, 000 per hour for the room includes the price of the girl.

Armed with this knowledge, we immediately reimmersed ourselves in the disco and found new friends. 1 Hour, 10 minutes later, less Rp 285, 000 for the room/girl, 50, 000 rp tip and approx 1-2 mls of baby batter lighter. We went home happy and satisfied.

While my report does mainly relate to this one adventure. I will also add another increasingly improving 5 star venue to the Bats, Cj's etc contingent. This being Mistere's at the Ritz Carlton. It does have chicken. And they can be had for the normal Rp. 500, 000 harganya. Band is also quite good.

Good hunting my brothers.

[Dutch44]

Hi Geriatno,

Saw your post, Which dating websites were you using?

Hi all:

Was just in Jakarta a few weeks ago and had a blast! What an amazing city when it comes to P4P and beautiful women from a diverse pool.

I pulled mostly from dating websites, asked them for a full on picture with face (which most sent, but not all) and then took it from there....

Can you name a few?

Dutch44

[Smoothy]

In my opinion, Medika is a pain. Unless you know which numbers to choose, it's very difficult to find a quality girl there. There are so many girls, but not so many fine quality choices. There are pictures to choose from, but the girls rarely ever look like those photos. There have been times when I have chosen a girl based on her picture and when she showed up to the room she looked so different from that picture that I refused to allow her to service me and demanded a refund. The disco where they hang out is completely pitch black so there's no possible way to tell what they look like. The only way to find the good numbers is to sit by the front counter for hours, writing down the numbers of the nice girls as they return from servicing customers. I don't have the time or patience for that. Unless someone can suggest some good numbers for that place, I believe it's best to take a pass.

[Dolbotwo]

Dolbotwo - well although I said "dating sites" I don't actually use "dating" sites. I use Friendster and Yahoo Messenger when I'm bored in UK and want to do some "virtual" hunting.

Thanks a lot for your help.

As a mac lover, I'm afraid Yahoo IM doesn't offer the same hunting possibilities ;-)

Maybe Knight 1001 and Geriatno can give us a hint on this topic, for proper websites ?

[Bulai69]

Dolbotwo - well although I said "dating sites" I don't actually use "dating" sites. I use Friendster and Yahoo Messenger when I'm bored in UK and want to do some "virtual" hunting.

YM is better in so far as it's real time/interactive. You have to play a numbers game just the spammers and phisers do. Simply go into an Indonesian/Jakarta chat room, run down the list of those in there on the right hand side until you see a girl and send her a POLITE instant message. You will get a reply 90% of the time. You then have two choices: go straight for it in the same way as many tactless bules go for girls for real or play a longer game. The first will deliver the same result: if they are hookers they will overlook the lack of finesse in exchange for income; if they are not you will lose them at once. The chances of their being hookers in YM is in my experience very low so it's better to play a longer game - if you have time. Also the hookers will arrange to meet and then not turn up. If you can engage the girl in polite conversation for more than around 20 minutes you can almost certainly get them to meet you if you offer a few "carrots". By that I mean arrange to meet them in a mall and say you'd like to walk around the mall with them and do some window shopping (jalan2 and cuci mata). I have done this many times - though probably only taken up 10% of the offers I got on YM. In every case (maybe 10 times over a few recent years) I have "scored" having spent maybe 200k on "presents". Sometimes I give them cash afterwards (for their sick relative, college fees, younger brother's school fees etc etc) but some don't want it.

If you can find a girl with a cam so much the better - but don't expect her to strip off, especially if she is in a warnet!

On to YM now....

[Bulai69]

Sorry to duplicate but I posted this in wrong thread:

I know you have encyclopaedic knowledge of MP's and the like and it's not something I know that much about. You might therefore be able to help me with some info on Medica bar and disco. I went there alone a few years ago at night (which could be a somewhat alarming experience in many ways for "newbies" by the way and not something I would recommend for them) and I was astonished at the number of girls, the quality of them and their enthusiasm to "mob" me as soon as I arrived. I quickly selected one and whisked here away in my (waiting!) taxi.

However, I went there late afternoon last year with a fellow esteemed contributor to this forum and it was totally dead; not only that, the bar service was dreadful. Are there never any girls in the bar in the early evening? Does it liven up at night as before? Is there a good time to go?

[Dolbotwo]

Sounds like you had a good time, dating sites are an excellent source of girls.

Which dating sites do you use by the way?