Jakarta

[KL Guy]

My very rich friend took a SPG from Plaza Senayan to his room in Hyatt without any problems!

KL Guy

Grand Hyatt is in one complex with Plaza Indonesia shopping center. Bulai69 and others have succesfully done mall-hunting over there. Whether you can take your trophy into your room or not? Maybe (one of) the other members can tell.

BATS? Do a search and RTFF.

[Menteng]

Gents:

Have either one of you been able to find any action at the Hyatt in Jakarta? Is BATS the best pick-up bar in Jakarta, or is there somewhere else?

Thanks .... Woodman

Grand Hyatt is in one complex with Plaza Indonesia shopping center. Bulai69 and others have succesfully done mall-hunting over there. Whether you can take your trophy into your room or not? Maybe (one of) the other members can tell.

BATS? Do a search and RTFF.

[Mighty Spearsman]

The Muslim holiday of Eid-al-Adha will be on Thusday, 20 December 2007.

Similar to the month of Ramadan and the Eid-al-Fitri (Lebaran) holiday, most free-standing massage parlors will be closed on both Wednesday, 19 December and Thursday, 20 December. This includes places that are combination brothels/massage such as Kartika, Super and Siera and also those places that are massage/HJ places such as JASPA (in Mal Ambassador).

Not sure about mp's that are inside hotels, such as Malioboro Hotel & Spa and the Alexis.

Night spots such as CJ's, Tiga Puluh etc. will presumably be open.

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Although the Woodman did not specifically ask me, I'll throw my two cents worth in anyway:

I've never stayed at the Hyatt but it has a reputation for not being a girl-friendly hotel, so you may not have much luck trying to pick up a girl there; it's certainly not a "sure thing" in comparison with other places.

Best pick-up bar? there are many opinions here on this board. The three traditional favorites are BATS, CJ's at the Mulia and Tiga Puluh at Le Meridien (although the latter seems to have gone downhill of late). Many mongers had had success at the Blok M bars on Jalan Faletehan (D's PLace, Top gun, etc.), and there are other places as well where mongers have had success.

Knight 1001 gives good advice - check out the "Reports of Distinction" section of the Indonesia thread.

Now that you've received info from my colleagues and me here, in return please post a detailed report of your exploits here!

[Knight 1001]

Gents:

Have either one of you been able to find any action at the Hyatt in Jakarta? Is BATS the best pick-up bar in Jakarta, or is there somewhere else?

Thanks .... Woodman

Woodman,

I never picked up anything in the Hyatt if only because I only go there for business dinners or lunch and i don't think that they have a Bats equivalent.

As for the question of which is the best pick-up bar, I believe that all the answers are in the reports of distinction, and others, that you may want to read. You will then have an excellent idea of where you should go according to your tastes, time and budget.

Cheers

[Woodman]

Gents:

Have either one of you been able to find any action at the Hyatt in Jakarta? Is BATS the best pick-up bar in Jakarta, or is there somewhere else?

Thanks .... Woodman

[StraightFlush]

(why did you wait 20 years by the way!).

First time I'm here on biz - last time just back-packing. Being divorced recently probably the main reason that I'll be back soon.

As for other bars than CJ's, the other hotel bars that everyone mentions in the same breath - BATS, Tiga Puluh - is there much difference, other than different sets of girls rotating through? While it might be months before I can get back, Im already planning my next trip. I liked the Mulia, but might try Shangri-la next time.

Think that I should mix it up with other places, to get a better feel for the nightlife here. From your suggestions, I assume that Blok M bars, Stadium, etc. would give a good mix from the 5-star bars. I'm not too adventurous yet, but looks like those are safe for westerners.

The few guys I talked with at CJ's were all visiting businessman, but guessing that larger portion of the guys are ex-pats working in JKT or area? Also seemed to be alot of local (??) Indonesians there as well. Any idea of the breakdown in the 5-star bars, between guys travelling and foreign guys working locally? Is it much different in the other area bars - I know that my local JKT contacts didn't encourage me to go out of the hotel on my own.

Great site, kudos to Jackson and all the senior members for their advice!

[Brandon88]

Sorry buddy,


When This friends of mine used to managed this place before moving to Malaysia. He told me....... Most Monday morning... they find..... dead body..... on the 4th Floor disco........wow.... They call it OD.... If u know what it means....

Cheers

I believe it. Heading to the bathrooms in that disco was always an experience. The hallway was always lined with sad-sack locals slumped down in a stupor that couldn't be attributed to X. No idea what they are on.

[Onewave]

The issue of overpaying, especially for BATS girls has been discussed many times and I think Knight 1001 kind of proves that you can get a "Rp 1, 000, 000 girl" for Rp 300, 000 when he says "I see that she in fact has moved to more expensive joints (which I have quit frequenting): I had her for 300, 000 Rp. Onewave paid double that. "

It's a bit out of context.

When Knight 1001 did her for RP300, 000. He did not pull her from BATS.

So, his point here is that a girl of this quality can be found at a different time of day and in a different location for a lesser price.

RE: overpaying

A conversation on general pricing is a useful discussion.

But, commenting of a specif transaction, especially without ALL the facts is ludicrous. As is the concept that "the market can be ruined"

For years more transactions happen in BATS, CJ's etc by non-monger businessmen happily paying RP1, 000, 000 than all of us combined.

Has it "ruined" the market?

Based on Knight's getting Ani for Rp3000, 000 I'd say not.

The girls always ask for the moon. But they know what their bottom line is.

So negotiate.

[Bulai69]

The issue of overpaying, especially for BATS girls has been discussed many times and I think Knight 1001 kind of proves that you can get a "Rp 1,000,000 girl" for Rp 300,000 when he says "I see that she in fact has moved to more expensive joints (which I have quit frequenting): I had her for 300,000 Rp ... Onewave paid double that ..."

It's very easy to delude yourself (I've done it myself) that you are getting something better if you pay 1 juta in BATS and the like: you aren't.

As Mighty Spearsman says, that's a month's salary if the girl has a job such as hairdresser or waitress. Just a point on this though; many girls pretend to have a job in order to make themselves appear more respectable and in some sense, it's a way of playing harder to get and getting the price up. Let's face it, if they score in BATS even once a week for a night's "work", why would they have a job working 8+ hours a day, 6 days a week?!

[Bulai69]

Good report - (why did you wait 20 years by the way!). You say, rightly, "... you have to move fast, as they don't get too far after entering the bar before being snatched up/latched onto..." My suggestion is that you hang around on the sofas in the lobby area and get them before they go in. That way you also save money by not paying for them (they are often in pairs) and buying drinks etc. Obviously it also saves times time and you get straight down to business.

This approach also works much later in the evening when you can get "bargains" if they haven't been picked up already. Of course the standard is likely to be lower.

[Rainman 2108]

Rainman, where are the "rooms" at stadium and how much do these rooms cost?? The only ones I know about are the ones above the 5th floor disco for short time sex.

Sorry buddy,

Not sure how much it cost. It's room 208.. Nice big room with a bed room inside.

At 3-4 am. DJ Bobby will come and the room is equip with the necessary for him to play us music. Just for us..,. Private room and private DJ...

He play the music according to our mood... So everybody flies....

hehehe... Well. my friend's uncle own the place....

When we leaves at 6am... We see many people coming from other part of Kota.....

When This friends of mine used to managed this place before moving to Malaysia. He told me....... Most Monday morning... they find..... dead body..... on the 4th Floor disco........wow.... They call it OD.... If u know what it means....

Cheers

[Mighty Spearsman]

Since I prefer to do my mongering around noon, not just because the service is fresh, but also because this time suits me the best rather than late noon after lunch, I find it difficult to find places with decent girls. I have had this experience even at the Sentral MP in Pasar Mayestik. Does any brother know of a MP bordello that begins its activities early say around 11 am? I would be happy for any leads. Thanks.

Maribaya Spa on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai should be open by 11 a.m.

Royal Mas MP (same alley as Kartika) officially opens at 11 a.m., and some girls are there by 10:30 a.m.

Super MP also has some girls on duty by 11 a.m., normally very few however.

That's it off the top of my head. Unfortunately, very few places are open before 12 Noon.

[Kodja]

Does any brother know of a MP bordello that begins its activities early say around 11 am? I would be happy for any leads. Thanks.

I believe Kartika opens at 11.00am.

[Memekman]

"Yes, I went back to Malioboro this week, and yes, I had a good experience there.

Stopped by at 11:45 am and the girl at the front desk told me that the spa was already open, but that the girls would not come on duty until 12 Noon."

You were lucky to get a decent cewek at this early an hour. Last time I phoned Malioboro to ask what time the girls came in, I was told that it was not before 2pm. In fact, when I went to the Alexis at 1:45pm on my last visit, I found that there were only 1 or 2 locals around while the PRCs and other so-called exotics were there in greater numbers. The girls come in well after 2pm, probably as they need all the sleep they can get having been banged well into the night. The PRCs come in earlier because they are bussed in by thei mamasan/papasans from some hotel nearby where they are put up.

Since I prefer to do my mongering around noon, not just because the service is fresh, but also because this time suits me the best rather than late noon after lunch, I find it difficult to find places with decent girls. I have had this experience even at the Sentral MP in Pasar Mayestik. Does any brother know of a MP bordello that begins its activities early say around 11 am? I would be happy for any leads. Thanks.

[StraightFlush]

Just in Jakarta for 1 day/2nights.

Corporate rate at Mulia, arranged by my host, was USD99. 00 per night. As I wanted NS room, I had delay checking in but finally got upgrade to club floor, 38F. Beautiful room with king bed, free internet/breakfast, and best of all, CJ's just a 30 second elevator ride away. I checked internet rate for a few other hotels, and at the corporate rate offered, don't think I'd stay anywhere less than Mulia's quality/value. Internet was fine, although others have said that they found it slow. Like the girls. YMMV.

Main floor lounge had a great Filipino 5-singer band, with all individual stars, especially the small girl with great pipes. She was dreamy. My taste definitely.

I hadn't been in Jakarta for over 20-years, so CJ's was quite an experience. Thursday went for a drink with a couple business friends, and lots of eye contact from 8's. 9's. Didn't partake due to busy schedule on Friday. Had some great food (Malaysian and Java style. Outside of hotel) in JKT, and wish I could stay another day.

Returned to CJ's on Friday. Quite the scene as I got there close to midnight and packed wall to wall. Hotel definitely GF although ST friend asked me to walk her out to avoid being hassled by the elevator security.

A few 9's and possible 10's there, but you have to move fast, as they don't get too far after entering the bar before being snatched up/latched onto. Maybe it the regulars. (you lucky guys)

L*** (from Selawasi). My Indonesian friend had told me earlier that girls from here are the best looking. L*** was a solid 9. 0 in the (face) looks department, although maybe carrying few pounds extra for my usual taste. However her dancing and grinding convince me to give her a go. Service was 7. 5 due to no DATY and only short BBBJ. She wanted to get right to covered action. Pretty vocal (and somewhat convincing) which for me is a good thing. Gave it the college try for another shot, but couldn't hit the net. ST donation was 500K with no discussion or fuss.

As others in this forum have said, there are definitely girls asking for 1-million or close to, but its' pretty clear (on this particular Friday) the later the night, the easier the negotiation. However for us business types, with only 1-2 days in town, many would definitely "ruin the market" (sorry, sorry, sorry) if we could have been a little quicker to move on the 9's and 10's.

Recently been visiting HKG, Macau, PEK, and have to say that as far as "pickup" bars (I have a hard time calling them this as it's pretty clear who's picking who up). Wanchai, Maggies, CJ's. I'd have to rate the quality here much higher and value better in this small taste of JKT. Unfortunately don't have much business here, so it might be 6-months before (finding an excuse) returning to try other JKT suggestions that I've read.

Happy hunting

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