Jakarta

[StraightFlush]

(why did you wait 20 years by the way!).

First time I'm here on biz - last time just back-packing. Being divorced recently probably the main reason that I'll be back soon.

As for other bars than CJ's, the other hotel bars that everyone mentions in the same breath - BATS, Tiga Puluh - is there much difference, other than different sets of girls rotating through? While it might be months before I can get back, Im already planning my next trip. I liked the Mulia, but might try Shangri-la next time.

Think that I should mix it up with other places, to get a better feel for the nightlife here. From your suggestions, I assume that Blok M bars, Stadium, etc. would give a good mix from the 5-star bars. I'm not too adventurous yet, but looks like those are safe for westerners.

The few guys I talked with at CJ's were all visiting businessman, but guessing that larger portion of the guys are ex-pats working in JKT or area? Also seemed to be alot of local (??) Indonesians there as well. Any idea of the breakdown in the 5-star bars, between guys travelling and foreign guys working locally? Is it much different in the other area bars - I know that my local JKT contacts didn't encourage me to go out of the hotel on my own.

Great site, kudos to Jackson and all the senior members for their advice!

[Brandon88]

Sorry buddy,


When This friends of mine used to managed this place before moving to Malaysia. He told me....... Most Monday morning... they find..... dead body..... on the 4th Floor disco........wow.... They call it OD.... If u know what it means....

Cheers

I believe it. Heading to the bathrooms in that disco was always an experience. The hallway was always lined with sad-sack locals slumped down in a stupor that couldn't be attributed to X. No idea what they are on.

[Onewave]

The issue of overpaying, especially for BATS girls has been discussed many times and I think Knight 1001 kind of proves that you can get a "Rp 1, 000, 000 girl" for Rp 300, 000 when he says "I see that she in fact has moved to more expensive joints (which I have quit frequenting): I had her for 300, 000 Rp. Onewave paid double that. "

It's a bit out of context.

When Knight 1001 did her for RP300, 000. He did not pull her from BATS.

So, his point here is that a girl of this quality can be found at a different time of day and in a different location for a lesser price.

RE: overpaying

A conversation on general pricing is a useful discussion.

But, commenting of a specif transaction, especially without ALL the facts is ludicrous. As is the concept that "the market can be ruined"

For years more transactions happen in BATS, CJ's etc by non-monger businessmen happily paying RP1, 000, 000 than all of us combined.

Has it "ruined" the market?

Based on Knight's getting Ani for Rp3000, 000 I'd say not.

The girls always ask for the moon. But they know what their bottom line is.

So negotiate.

[Bulai69]

The issue of overpaying, especially for BATS girls has been discussed many times and I think Knight 1001 kind of proves that you can get a "Rp 1,000,000 girl" for Rp 300,000 when he says "I see that she in fact has moved to more expensive joints (which I have quit frequenting): I had her for 300,000 Rp ... Onewave paid double that ..."

It's very easy to delude yourself (I've done it myself) that you are getting something better if you pay 1 juta in BATS and the like: you aren't.

As Mighty Spearsman says, that's a month's salary if the girl has a job such as hairdresser or waitress. Just a point on this though; many girls pretend to have a job in order to make themselves appear more respectable and in some sense, it's a way of playing harder to get and getting the price up. Let's face it, if they score in BATS even once a week for a night's "work", why would they have a job working 8+ hours a day, 6 days a week?!

[Bulai69]

Good report - (why did you wait 20 years by the way!). You say, rightly, "... you have to move fast, as they don't get too far after entering the bar before being snatched up/latched onto..." My suggestion is that you hang around on the sofas in the lobby area and get them before they go in. That way you also save money by not paying for them (they are often in pairs) and buying drinks etc. Obviously it also saves times time and you get straight down to business.

This approach also works much later in the evening when you can get "bargains" if they haven't been picked up already. Of course the standard is likely to be lower.

[Rainman 2108]

Rainman, where are the "rooms" at stadium and how much do these rooms cost?? The only ones I know about are the ones above the 5th floor disco for short time sex.

Sorry buddy,

Not sure how much it cost. It's room 208.. Nice big room with a bed room inside.

At 3-4 am. DJ Bobby will come and the room is equip with the necessary for him to play us music. Just for us..,. Private room and private DJ...

He play the music according to our mood... So everybody flies....

hehehe... Well. my friend's uncle own the place....

When we leaves at 6am... We see many people coming from other part of Kota.....

When This friends of mine used to managed this place before moving to Malaysia. He told me....... Most Monday morning... they find..... dead body..... on the 4th Floor disco........wow.... They call it OD.... If u know what it means....

Cheers

[Mighty Spearsman]

Since I prefer to do my mongering around noon, not just because the service is fresh, but also because this time suits me the best rather than late noon after lunch, I find it difficult to find places with decent girls. I have had this experience even at the Sentral MP in Pasar Mayestik. Does any brother know of a MP bordello that begins its activities early say around 11 am? I would be happy for any leads. Thanks.

Maribaya Spa on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai should be open by 11 a.m.

Royal Mas MP (same alley as Kartika) officially opens at 11 a.m., and some girls are there by 10:30 a.m.

Super MP also has some girls on duty by 11 a.m., normally very few however.

That's it off the top of my head. Unfortunately, very few places are open before 12 Noon.

[Kodja]

Does any brother know of a MP bordello that begins its activities early say around 11 am? I would be happy for any leads. Thanks.

I believe Kartika opens at 11.00am.

[Memekman]

"Yes, I went back to Malioboro this week, and yes, I had a good experience there.

Stopped by at 11:45 am and the girl at the front desk told me that the spa was already open, but that the girls would not come on duty until 12 Noon."

You were lucky to get a decent cewek at this early an hour. Last time I phoned Malioboro to ask what time the girls came in, I was told that it was not before 2pm. In fact, when I went to the Alexis at 1:45pm on my last visit, I found that there were only 1 or 2 locals around while the PRCs and other so-called exotics were there in greater numbers. The girls come in well after 2pm, probably as they need all the sleep they can get having been banged well into the night. The PRCs come in earlier because they are bussed in by thei mamasan/papasans from some hotel nearby where they are put up.

Since I prefer to do my mongering around noon, not just because the service is fresh, but also because this time suits me the best rather than late noon after lunch, I find it difficult to find places with decent girls. I have had this experience even at the Sentral MP in Pasar Mayestik. Does any brother know of a MP bordello that begins its activities early say around 11 am? I would be happy for any leads. Thanks.

[StraightFlush]

Just in Jakarta for 1 day/2nights.

Corporate rate at Mulia, arranged by my host, was USD99. 00 per night. As I wanted NS room, I had delay checking in but finally got upgrade to club floor, 38F. Beautiful room with king bed, free internet/breakfast, and best of all, CJ's just a 30 second elevator ride away. I checked internet rate for a few other hotels, and at the corporate rate offered, don't think I'd stay anywhere less than Mulia's quality/value. Internet was fine, although others have said that they found it slow. Like the girls. YMMV.

Main floor lounge had a great Filipino 5-singer band, with all individual stars, especially the small girl with great pipes. She was dreamy. My taste definitely.

I hadn't been in Jakarta for over 20-years, so CJ's was quite an experience. Thursday went for a drink with a couple business friends, and lots of eye contact from 8's. 9's. Didn't partake due to busy schedule on Friday. Had some great food (Malaysian and Java style. Outside of hotel) in JKT, and wish I could stay another day.

Returned to CJ's on Friday. Quite the scene as I got there close to midnight and packed wall to wall. Hotel definitely GF although ST friend asked me to walk her out to avoid being hassled by the elevator security.

A few 9's and possible 10's there, but you have to move fast, as they don't get too far after entering the bar before being snatched up/latched onto. Maybe it the regulars. (you lucky guys)

L*** (from Selawasi). My Indonesian friend had told me earlier that girls from here are the best looking. L*** was a solid 9. 0 in the (face) looks department, although maybe carrying few pounds extra for my usual taste. However her dancing and grinding convince me to give her a go. Service was 7. 5 due to no DATY and only short BBBJ. She wanted to get right to covered action. Pretty vocal (and somewhat convincing) which for me is a good thing. Gave it the college try for another shot, but couldn't hit the net. ST donation was 500K with no discussion or fuss.

As others in this forum have said, there are definitely girls asking for 1-million or close to, but its' pretty clear (on this particular Friday) the later the night, the easier the negotiation. However for us business types, with only 1-2 days in town, many would definitely "ruin the market" (sorry, sorry, sorry) if we could have been a little quicker to move on the 9's and 10's.

Recently been visiting HKG, Macau, PEK, and have to say that as far as "pickup" bars (I have a hard time calling them this as it's pretty clear who's picking who up). Wanchai, Maggies, CJ's. I'd have to rate the quality here much higher and value better in this small taste of JKT. Unfortunately don't have much business here, so it might be 6-months before (finding an excuse) returning to try other JKT suggestions that I've read.

Happy hunting

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[Mighty Spearsman]

Well I booked on the lowest cost flight I could find (semi mistake) from Hong Kong whereby I will be landing at CGK (China Air) after 8pm, plus my flight back is at 6:35am. Based on the wealth of information I was planning to stay at the Ambhara Hotel in the Southern part of the city. Does anyone know if the hotel desk at the airport will still be open that late plus would it be difficult to get a cab at 4am in the morning. Any info will be appreciated.

No need to hold a taxi all night. You can book a Blue Bird taxi or a Silver Bird taxi (same company) ahead of time. The hotel's front desk can make the call for you, and Blue Bird/Silver Bird is very reliable and will show up on time at 4 a.m.

I've done this (booked either a Blue Bird or a Silver Bird taxi for an early A.M. pick-up) several times over the last two years here in Jakarta and have never had a problem.

And yes, the front desk at Ambhara (and every other 3-star, 4-star and 5-star hotel in Jakarta) should have someone on duty all night.

P.S. The differences between a Blue Bird taxi and a Silver Bird taxi: Blue Bird taxis are regular small taxis, where the driver may or may not speak English, and should cost 90,000 rupiah plus tolls (approx. 11,000 rupiah one way now) and a tip to the driver, from the Ambhara Hotel to the airport at 4 a.m.

Silver Bird is a larger and nicer car (the new ones are Mercedes!), the drivers are older and more experienced and will speak at least some English, and it should cost 110,000-120,000 rupiah, maybe a bit more, plus tolls and tip from the Ambhara Hotel to the airport at 4 a.m. Silver Bird is also better if you have lots of luggage, as there's a lot more trunk space than a Blue Bird.

While I rarely if ever take Silver Bird around town, I almost always take them on trips to and from the airport; it's a nice treat and a more comfortable ride for only a few extra dollars, also in case something goes wrong, it's nice to have a driver who speaks English.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Yes, I went back to Malioboro this week, and yes, I had a good experience there.

Stopped by at 11:45 am and the girl at the front desk told me that the spa was already open, but that the girls would not come on duty until 12 Noon. No problem, I started off with sauna and shower.

Upstairs at 12:10 pm and was told by the second floor receptionist that the prices:

- for a regular massage-only with a local girl was 200,000 rupiah for an hour, room charge included

- for massage-only with a Chinese girl was 300,000 rupiah (listed on the sign on the counter as a “Panda Massage”), room charge included

- a “full body massage plus plus” with a local Indonesian girl was 350,000 rupiah, room charge included

- there are also higher-priced girls available, up to 1,500,000 rupiah for a fuck session with a P.R. China girl, but I was only interested in the lower price categories.

I replied that I’d like the full body massage. I mentioned that when I had last been there, during Ramadan, that I had been charged an extra 175,000 rupiah for the room on top of the 350,000 rupiah house fee. The receptionist replied that the extra fee was because the third floor (with the massage rooms) had been closed during the month of Ramadan, so the extra charge was for a regular hotel room on the 4th floor, but that I would not be charged the extra fee now because Ramadan was over.

Unfortunately, no girls were on duty yet! The receptionist called one of the “mamis” on the phone; the mami came in and said that one local Indonesian girl had just arrived, literally as the girl was just then walking up the stairs. She looked fine to me so I said “I’ll take her” and off we went to one of the massage rooms on the 3rd floor.

In the room, we stripped down, the girl went into the shower with me and gave me a thorough wash. She then apologized for not having any make-up on (since she had just arrived), but I said no problem, which was true as she was already pretty and didn't need make-up to look good.

Back to the massage bed, she asked me to lie face down, got some massage oil, rubbed my entire back and legs, then gave me a nice, professional-level body-to-body massage, with her decent-sized firm tits rubbing all over me – an unexpected treat.

Then she had me flip over onto my back and she gave me a complete “cat bath” licking, with lots of attention to the groin area. She then concentrated on some serious tea-bagging and BBBJ action, popped on a condom, then climbed on cowgirl-style and away we went. After a few minutes, I laid her on her back for some DATY (she was very responsive), then I popped my load while in the mish position. We cuddled for awhile, then she followed me into the shower and gave me an even more thorough wash than before.

All in all, a very nice session, one of the best I’ve had lately, with excellent service and real gfe. Her name was Eva (pronounced as Ava), 21 years old, 1.60 meters tall, short dark-brown hair, pretty face, slender with a very tiny waist, decent-sized firm tits, fairly large in relation to her thin build, clearly had never had any kids. She spoke some English and her bahasa Indonesian was clear and easy to understand. Will definitely consider seeing her again, especially as my experience in Jakarta is that the “second time” with an MP or spa girl is usually better than the first time.

Total damages were 350,000 rupiah house fee plus tip, I gave her 100,000 rupiah, maybe higher than I needed to give, but I felt that her exceptional service level deserved a little extra.

And the total 450,000 rupiah is a bargain in comparison with the 1,500,000 rupiah rate for a Chinese girl; I doubt if a session with the higher-priced Chinese girl would be any better than the session and service that I received from Eva!

So, while Malioboro may not be as good as Alexis, it still was very nice.

[Traveler1234]

Well I booked on the lowest cost flight I could find (semi mistake) from Hong Kong whereby I will be landing at CGK (China Air) after 8pm, plus my flight back is at 6:35am. Based on the wealth of information I was planning to stay at the Ambhara Hotel in the Southern part of the city. Does anyone know if the hotel desk at the airport will still be open that late plus would it be difficult to get a cab at 4am in the morning. Any info will be appreciated.

You can take a silver bird from airport to hotel and tell him to keep the meter going/on, and wait for you to catch your next morning flight out.....

[ABCinLA]

Well I booked on the lowest cost flight I could find (semi mistake) from Hong Kong whereby I will be landing at CGK (China Air) after 8pm, plus my flight back is at 6:35am. Based on the wealth of information I was planning to stay at the Ambhara Hotel in the Southern part of the city. Does anyone know if the hotel desk at the airport will still be open that late plus would it be difficult to get a cab at 4am in the morning. Any info will be appreciated.

[Notidik]

I love Jakarta but I think your taxis didn't take any creative short cuts through the less savoury sections then.

JAD, Menteng, Knight1001, Ebowan and any other fellow members I might know here,

I'm planning my next trip there soon (within 2 weeks) and if you're still interested in the Durex Play condoms or any other items let me know. Incidentally how is Jakarta for shops selling sexual aids/enhancers/equipment? (I never really looked into this before) In Malaysia we have a small chain of shops (please check out their website: www.ineedhouse.com) and would be curious to find out if a similar range of material can be found in Jakarta. Thanks guys.

Incidentally I noticed that this is will be logged as FR No:499 for me so I'll be saving no 500 for something exceptional in Jakarta - I've been busy chasing "freebies" in KL (free except for the hotel room and some simple - read inexpensive - meals).

MD II

Bro MD II,

I found these shops (though not looking for it) at Ambassador Mal. The stalls is in between ITC and the mal which is accessable from the 2rd floor onwards. If I am not mistaken it's on the 2nd but it's easily noticed. When you are there, the girl manning the stall would normally find you and the first thing they ask will be if you want ciallis.

Still the range is no where compared to the ones available in hatyai (suntiksut) or the ones available on the website you mentioned.