Jakarta

[Dezstylez]

One practical tip if you just want to get "warmed up" prior to a forthcoming session is to set the wake up call for 40 minutes into your session. Then you can tell the massage girl you have a visitor and so can't go through with a "special massage" - either to "save yourself" of strengthen your negotiating position.

Very useful advice indeed. I will try this method of telling her to bugger off. This way I will have the energy to hunt for a proper shag.

[Dezstylez]

Bulai69,

You are absolutely right! I had paid Rp250,000 before for a Hj which I think (only after spunking my cum!) was rediculous.

The reason for posting the rates is that I am on a mission to standardise the rates and extras should only be given as tips only and only when you're fully satisfied with her service.

Cheapskate as I may sound but we are visiting the land where pussies are cheap and aplenty.

[Bulai69]

Just a comment on your 5* hotel rates - in my experience there is no way you will ever get "Hj: Rp100,000 - Rp150,000; Bj: Rp200,000 - Rp300,000; Shag: Rp400,000 - Rp500,000 per pop!" It will cost a lot more and for that reason I have never had anything more than HJ in a hotel which I think you won't get under 300k.

One practical tip if you just want to get "warmed up" prior to a forthcoming session is to set the wake up call for 40 minutes into your session. Then you can tell the massage girl you have a visitor and so can't go through with a "special massage" - either to "save yourself" of strengthen your negotiating position.

[Artisto Art]

Nice to see you back in the JKT thread. I read your remark to me and David33. Will have to check out that place soon. Might be heading to MED and LIM soon; just have to work out some things first. Would love to hang with you in MED; when do you return?

Take care man,

AA

[Dezstylez]

My special thanks to the interesting yet useful tips from The Exile, Smoothy, Cowboy Mike and Knight 1001. If only you guys could combine and come out with a guide book of the hidden pleasures of Indonesia.

I admit that there are times where I am guilty of thinking with my dick when I was cornered into negotiating with their expert hands stroking my dick!

My recommended reseanoble pricing for Jakarta:

Massage: Rp50,000 - Rp75,000 per hour

Hj: Rp50,000 - Rp100,000

Bj: Rp100,000 - Rp150,000

Shag: Rp300,000 - Rp400,000 per pop

Massage in a 5 Star Hotel: Rp200,000 - Rp250,000 per hour

Hj: Rp100,000 - Rp150,000

Bj: Rp200,000 - Rp300,000

Shag: Rp400,000 - Rp500,000 per pop!

Girls in Girlie Bars: Rp300,000 - Rp350,000 a pop!

Girls in Hotel Bars: Rp400,000 - Rp500,000 a pop!

Overnight: Rp700,000 - Rp1 million

Overnight (if you're lucky): Rp600,000 - Rp800,000

Do you guys think this is reasonable or I am in dreamland??

Feedbacks welcome.

[Smoothy]

Menteng, from Colombia to Jakarta. What a rough life you have.

I'm working with some Colombian guys here in Venezuela. I haven't been having a great time with the Venezuelan girls due to the lack of gfe they have been providing so far. But one of the guys flew his colombian girlfriend in last week and asked me if I wanted to pay to fly her friend in for myself. She'd stay in my room and I would need to pay her flight in, and for her food. That would also give his girlfriend someone to hang out with. Supposedly she was a former contestant in the Miss Colombia contest and was hot, but I was skeptical. After seeing her picture, I agreed to pay to fly her in. That was the best money I've spent in a long time. If many other Colombian women are like that one, I have to get to Colombia! I envy you spending so much time there. It must be tough to leave that country.

Variety is good though - enjoy Jakarta. I'll be there again soon as well.

[JayHighFive]

I will be in Jakarta and was hoping someone could recommend goo hobbing locations. I will be staying at the Maridain hotel so anything near there is great. Also can you tell me how much I can expect to pay? Thanks a lot.

Jay

[Mighty Spearsman]

I arrived last friday in Jakarta...

...I entered Royal Mas with JAD. I was surprized by the quantity of the girls, but very few do-ables in my opinion. Besides, about 80% of them were older than 30 years, I think. Nevertheless, we sat down and gave the girls a better look. Seated next to me was one of those older ones and when she realized that she was not my choice, she introduced some of the others.

The first one was a huge girl to Indonesian standards. About 180 cm high and torsing, at least, 90 kilograms. I refused and asked about a slim girl with a miniskirt that was sitting in front of us. As she said that she was a beginner at "mandi kucing" and looked reluctant to be taught more of it, I skipped her as well....

First things first - Welcome back Menteng!!!

I've become a somewhat-regular at Royal Mas since August, thanks to a cute, legitimately 18 year old girl, Miss N, who's quickly become a favorite of mine.

You're right, most of the women there are older than 30 years old, but there are at least six new, younger girls who have started working there recently, in addition to Miss N and the 90-kilogram girl.

I've just recently noticed the 180 cm, 90 kilograms girl; she's probably in her early 20s, but in addition to being huge (a turnoff for most guys), she also does not have a very pretty face. Hard to believe that she has many customers, I'll have to ask Miss N about her next time I'm there.

Three weeks ago I saw an interesting paper notice on the second floor hall mirror as I was walking out after a session. The notice announced that there would be "massage training" for the new employees every Monday, Wednesday and Friday mornings from 10 am to 11 am (Royal Mas opens for customers at 11 am). Sounds interesting - maybe Menteng could volunteer his services to help out the new girls receive proper training?

An unrelated side note - the other afternoon I had a session with Miss N. Right after the shower, her mobile rang. She glanced at it, looked at me and apologized, saying that she had to take it as it was her father calling from the "kampung" (home village) and motioned me to keep quiet. Afterwards, I asked her if her father knew what she was doing in Jakarta and she replied no, he thinks that she works in a shop in Lokasari Plaza.

[BruceTea]

What are some great hotels at KL?

I am going on a tour. Need sauna/spa that's IN the hotel. Any suggestions?

[KL Guy]

Welcome back Menteng!

Hoping to see more of your reports & pictures here in Jakarta threads! For how long will you be back this time coz I hope to time my next visit while you're still in town, it's been too long!

Jad you too take care & appriciate you keeping in touch with me via PM once in a while!

KL Guy

I arrived last friday in Jakarta. Though the papers in the Netherlands mentioned "banjirs" near the airport, I didn't see a single wet spot on the road to Kebayoran.

[Menteng]

I arrived last friday in Jakarta. Though the papers in the Netherlands mentioned "banjirs" near the airport, I didn't see a single wet spot on the road to Kebayoran.

After some hours of rest, my good friend JAD came to see me. We exchanged some information and he made me curious about Royal Mas. We were there once, when there were no girls available. In those days it looked like a regular bar and they even had a waitress who used to work in the former Club 27.

Before visiting Royal Mas, we had dinner near Lokasari. After dinner, JAD gave me a present from MD II (thank you, brother!). It was a ring with a small vibrator attached to it. I understood, that the ring was to enter the pussy with the penis and once inside, the vibrator would then tickle the G-spot. I had my thoughts about the whole size, penis plus vibrator, but JAD ensured that there will be no problem.

Armed with the mini-vibrator, I entered Royal Mas with JAD. I was surprized by the quantity of the girls, but very few do-ables in my opinion. Besides, about 80% of them were older than 30 years, I think. Nevertheles, we sat down and gave the girls a better look. Seated next to me was one of those older ones and when she realized, that she was not my choice, she introduced some of the others. The first one was a huge girl to Indonesian standards. About 180 cm high and torsing, at least, 90 kilograms. I refused and asked about a slim girl with a miniskirt that was sitting in front of us. As she said that she was a beginner at "mandi kucing" and looked reluctant to be taught more of it, I skipped her as well. The woman next to me then called the next one. Bodywise not exactly my preference, but with a friendly, rather nice face. I asked her about her skills and she convinced me.

In the room she told me, that she already intended to go home as business was very slow. Actually, she said, that I was her first client. If that was true, then all the better for me, I would have a "clean" pussy, but I hoped that she would not rush things.

We showered together before she started the "mandi kucing". Starting in my neck, she went licking all the way down to my toes and sucked them. Some people may find that erotic, but to me it has no effect. She repeated the cycle a couple of times, before concentrating on my prick and starting the AR. She was good! Reminded me of Cici, for those who know her.

After a while I pulled her on top of me. WOT, with her back towards me. Pamela Anderson told Ruby Wax once, that that was her favourite position. And now I think it is also the girl's. After a hesitating start, she lost herself in uncontrolled movements. Pumping, sliding, rotating and when she came (looked like, anyway), the rest of the floor must have heard it. Quickly I changed position and banged her in the mish position. She was still in her orgasmic rush and the uncontrolled movements continued untill she came again (looked like, anyway). She calmed down and I slid out of her to wash my dick and have her finish me with a BBBJ. Again she gave an outstanding AR and good BJ and when I came she milked me untill the last drop. While she was doing that I watched her and when she noticed that, she stopped and started to laugh. As I thought that it would be impossible to open a mouth full of cum without spilling it, I asked her what happened. With a grin she told me that she needed vitamins.

The girls name is Evi (pronounce Eppy), other than most Indonesian girls she has no flat nose. Oh, yes, maybe you wonder how the mini-vibrator worked? Evi's excellent treatment made me forget to use it, sorry


NB.

Before entering the room on the second floor, I bumped into a girl that was busy calling. For a moment I repented that I have choosen Evi. It was the kind of girl, of which I don't mind whether she is skilled or not. Very, very cute. David33 and Artisto Art will know what I mean. Her working-name is Melati but the other girls called her Melly.

[Knight 1001]

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4) When the girl quotes a high price, I tell her "My penis is small so it won't wear your pussy out much".

I've found that the girls can't argue with that logic and lower their prices immediately.

For the others I would suggest you tell them you only want to get it in one third of the way ... or prorata to what you want to pay ...

In any case what the top head (as opposed to the middle one with no brains) should remember, is that those girls do that as a business and in doing so they are trying to optimize their revenue which means that it all boils down to what price they can be happy with.

You can do it either way:telling her your maximum price or asking her her minimum price. The second option, if you can live with it, will ensure you better service for obvious reasons.

Therefore, like in any business, there are other elements that get into the price fixing equation:
- how popular she is: I have had to wait weeks and weeks and to go back many times to get some girls who are fully booked whenever you get there;
- how many guys she's got before you and she can hope to get after you;
- the time of the day, (sometimes early is better and sometimes late is better, I have had both);
- the proximity of any time off where she will not be making any money (like hollidays such as Eid or more simply her periods);
- whether she thinks you can become a regular or not: notice the innocent question: are you here for business or where do you live;
- then if you already are a regular, whether you treat her with small gifts or not: they are extremely sensitive to that;
- then there are secondary, subjective issues such as whether she is horny (very rare, don't kid yourself guys, but I've see it happen), whether she really likes you (if you look like Brad Pitt, she may offer herself for free but then you wouldn't be there), how nice you are to her, etc etc ...

And I am sure there are other considerations that I am leaving out but that you may want to think about.

Again, most important of all, think with your brains, and don't wait to have your dick in her expert hands oiled up and hard to start the negotiation because at that point you're cooked and he's taken over.

Cheers

[Cowboy Mike]

This leads to the massage girl trying to convince you that you have enough time and that you're "strong" enough to please the girlfriend later. I got a quote from 1 million down to 400k .

I find if the girl has to spend much time haggling, she will be useless in bed and become a runner after 1st. shot or not clean herself beforehand.

Adding to your list, "I prefer to start the pricing" by saying my budget only Rp.200K because.

a) Cost me a lot of money to fly here to see you
b) Had to pay my rent yesterday
c) I dont get my salary till Monday

That will give them the mindset that they are taking your last dollar and that is the best she can do with you.

You WIN ,She WIN

[Cowboy Mike]

This leads to the massage girl trying to convince you that you have enough time and that you're "strong" enough to please the girlfriend later. I got a quote from 1 million down to 400k .

I find if the girl has to spend much time haggling, she will be useless in bed and become a runner after 1st. shot or not clean herself beforehand.

Adding to your list, "I prefer to start the pricing" by saying my budget only Rp.200K because.

a) Cost me a lot of money to fly here to see you
b) Had to pay my rent yesterday
c) I dont get my salary till Monday

That will give them the mindset that they are taking your last dollar and that is the best she can do with you.

You WIN ,She WIN

[Smoothy]

I got a quote from 1 million down to 400k .

I like your 3 suggestions and have told the girls these same things many times. Most times they are true statements and I'm not looking for sex regardless. However, it's rare to meet a massage girl in Jakarta who won't go for 400k regardless of their initial quote. I don't think you need any excuse to get them to that price.

That being said, I'd like to add a 4th suggestion that I use alot:

4) When the girl quotes a high price, I tell her "My penis is small so it won't wear your pussy out much".

I've found that the girls can't argue with that logic and lower their prices immediately.