Jakarta

[BenderOver]

There are a lot of dual note ATMs now. 1. 25 jt is when withdrawing 50 k notes. Look for machines that have 50 and 100 k notes. They will ask which notes you prefer and when you select 100 k, then the max single withdrawal will be 2. 5 jt.

This assumes you're using a foreign card. If you are using that ATM's bank card it won't ask what notes you prefer.

Cheers. G.

Thanks for the good advise. I'll try that out. Also if you're ever looking for good exchange rates, I've found that the big malls have quite competitive exchangers. Just carry new $100 USD for the USDA exchange rate. It's better than the be, see, the rates of older and / or smaller bills.

[Goferring]

BNI is 1 M or 1. 25 M. Very low.

There are a lot of dual note ATMs now. 1. 25 jt is when withdrawing 50 k notes. Look for machines that have 50 and 100 k notes. They will ask which notes you prefer and when you select 100 k, then the max single withdrawal will be 2. 5 jt.

This assumes you're using a foreign card. If you are using that ATM's bank card it won't ask what notes you prefer.

Cheers. G.

[BenderOver]

Unless this is a new modification on certain banks' ATMs, there should be two options on any given ATM to choose from before you withdraw your cash.

That is:

"accept with currency conversion" - This usually has the BS fees the ATM owner charges. It is just 100% pure profit for the bank. It is called DCC, Dynamic Currency Conversion and you are essentially giving the ATM owner permission to convert the currency for you, for a fee.

"accept without currency conversion" - This should be closer to the spot exchange rate and your home bank will do the conversion for you when it processes the transaction. It will still usually be less than the spot exchange rates you see on XE, etc. But much better than using the ATM owner's DCC.

Interesting if BCA has somehow removed this option. I typically use CIMB Niaga. In December, they still had the option to decline the bank's DCC (Dynamic Currency Conversion). And at CIMB Niaga, you can typically withdraw 3 million.

CIMB has the option to withdraw 1 M, 2 M, 3 M, but if you click Reject Currency Conversion after clicking 3 M, it will tell you that the request exceeds the maximum. So maybe the 3 M is only if you accept currency conversion. If you don't, 2 M is the max.

HSBC ATM's were the gold standard for me. 3 M no conversion. But those ATM's are hard to find now. I'm not even sure HSBC has a presence in Jakarta anymore!

BNI is 1 M or 1. 25 M. Very low.

[JSmithJ88]

What normally happens in these bars during ramadan?

Do the girls go home a week prior? The week of? Do they stay and work?

I have been there in the middle of ramadan for a few days but I met up with a chick during that time.

[Captain Solo]

Agreed. You have to meet the girls, hang out with them, take them to bed to see how good company she would be for the whole week on the road. Then work out complete agreements on what you and she expects form the trip. Would be very bad to get into misunderstandings and fights on the vacation as have happened to my wingmen who assumed too much about expectations in Mexico.

There are over a hundred girls in classic 1 and 2. Invite them to a dark corner, buy them drinks, kiss their mouths, squeeze their boobs, rub their crotch. Take those with hot responses to bed to check them out further.

Medan is a pretty, fun, happy, lively, flirty, smiling, talkative spinner, one of the nicest, happiest girls I ever met. Unlike other motionless dolls in Classic, she cruises around the club, playing, flirting with guys and is a favorite among big ballers. She was trying to use Google Translate with me but it did not do Indonesian. Regardless, we had perfect mutual understanding. I bought her a Soju for 125 K. It was pretty strong, so she is a reformed Muslim, would be fun, sexy and good drinking company on the road hehe. I get passionate just thinking about her pretty smiling face and her beautiful natural body with the smoothest skin. Look at her pics. I tried to erase all personal marks. Looks like I will have to come back to Jakarta soon.

I heard Surabaya and Yogyakarta have lots of hot girls, just not enough intels where and how to find them. Would take more time to travel away from Jakarta with unpredictable results.

[Possessed Seoul]

Is it still worth enough to visit EP for hunting freelancers these days? If so what time in weekends it can be active?

There's a group of them usually congregating out the back when the band plays on a Friday night. I'm usually blind drunk by the time I get there and this may be the old beer goggles talking, but there are some decent types, as long as you're not looking for model quality. I've no idea of what they charge, but I would imagine 1-2 million in the current market. Why not trawl the aps, find a date and take her there (or somewhere nicer). It's not a bad boozer, but never really struck me as the kind of place I'd take an Indo girl for a date (unless she's a total lush).

[Thampi62]

If you want to reminisce with the girls who hung out in CJs BATS Red Square and Blok M in the heydays 10+ years ago, head to EP. They're just about all there.

Is it still worth enough to visit EP for hunting freelancers these days? If so what time in weekends it can be active?

[Scarer]

I use an international ATM account that waives ATM fees. There's a new ripoff happening when I used BCA. They had a built in currency exchange rate that told you they charged 5%. So because it's not a flat fee, my ATM card can't waive that fee. I had to pay it. IDR is at 15500 for USD conversion and the BCA ATM converted it at 14800 for its service fee. What a rip off. The airport was selling IDR at 15300 and I should have just bought IDR there. Yes, I saw the single ATM, but just walk another 50 meters ahead, pass the door, and you'll see a bunch of exchange booths offering traveler rate.

Also, what's the deal now that so many ATM's limit the max cash out to 1,250,000? So stupid.

1. Use an ATM outside that is attached to a bank office. Usually they are safer.

2. Reject currency conversion offered. Every ATM will show that option (maybe in local language).

3. Always carry some money (maybe 200 K) back to your home country so that you can use for Taxi the next time you visit. I always keep some money as a backup but however use my card to book Grab from the Airport.

4. If travel into a country with no local currency, then bring high denomination home currency notes and exchange very minimal amount at the airport (inside or outside wherever they offer good rates) to manage the Taxi.

[SuperLove]

We all did it at some point in our mongering career. Going ahead don't be foolish enough to ask mamasan about bareback, it's a no no. And if you do chances of you landing in a no fly zone. I would often ask mama for basic services like DFK & BBBJ, both very important for me and additional like great attitude in room, if she does chances are she would offer me BB / anal with a smile.

When I was young and stupid.

Yes, years ago. I was this stupid. I went into a well known place (mentioned in the forums before but I won't be so boring to name the place) where I was very lucky to have amazing bb sex with a beautiful young provider. I went back the NEXT day to try to do it again, and same provider was not in the line up. So I picked another, and went in. When getting to the deed, I rubbed bare on her and she demanded the packet. I tell her I would tip very nicely if she would keep going, she said no. So I wrapped up, and the session wasn't that great. Then she said no DFK, and then later, she wanted to do covered BJ. At one point, I just stood up and got dressed. She was confused / upset / whatever. We went back to the counter and MMS asked "what happened?" and the provider was the one who immediately started blurting out how I wanted to do everything without a condom. So MMS brought me to a quiet corner and asked me if this was true. I looked at her and said that she gave me a girl with great service yesterday and today, for the same price, I'm getting really bad service because she said no to this and no to that. I would prefer if she recommend to me a girl like yesterday.

MMS gave me a sorry and exasperated look, like she really messed up and was stuck. So yes, she did feel bad that she introduced me to a girl with "extra" service, and this next girl made a loud stink about extra. All MMS said at that point was "I'm very sorry, but every girl is different, would you like to try again?" She was super nice, and I would have tried again, but the problem was that this place was 780 k per session and I didn't pack a second round's worth of IDR with me. Only enough for bluebird round trip, entry, and generous tip one time.

This was years ago and I learned to just relax and carry extra cash. Don't make a scene. Don't piss off MMS or providers. Don't get banned. The next time you will probably get better service.

[BenderOver]

Dude, I flipped when you wrote this, are you serious! I am waiting for a reply and want to know mamasan's reaction when you ask her this.

When I was young and stupid.

Yes, years ago. I was this stupid. I went into a well known place (mentioned in the forums before but I won't be so boring to name the place) where I was very lucky to have amazing bb sex with a beautiful young provider. I went back the NEXT day to try to do it again, and same provider was not in the line up. So I picked another, and went in. When getting to the deed, I rubbed bare on her and she demanded the packet. I tell her I would tip very nicely if she would keep going, she said no. So I wrapped up, and the session wasn't that great. Then she said no DFK, and then later, she wanted to do covered BJ. At one point, I just stood up and got dressed. She was confused / upset / whatever. We went back to the counter and MMS asked "what happened?" and the provider was the one who immediately started blurting out how I wanted to do everything without a condom. So MMS brought me to a quiet corner and asked me if this was true. I looked at her and said that she gave me a girl with great service yesterday and today, for the same price, I'm getting really bad service because she said no to this and no to that. I would prefer if she recommend to me a girl like yesterday.

MMS gave me a sorry and exasperated look, like she really messed up and was stuck. So yes, she did feel bad that she introduced me to a girl with "extra" service, and this next girl made a loud stink about extra. All MMS said at that point was "I'm very sorry, but every girl is different, would you like to try again?" She was super nice, and I would have tried again, but the problem was that this place was 780 k per session and I didn't pack a second round's worth of IDR with me. Only enough for bluebird round trip, entry, and generous tip one time.

This was years ago and I learned to just relax and carry extra cash. Don't make a scene. Don't piss off MMS or providers. Don't get banned. The next time you will probably get better service.

[BenderOver]

This is the thing. People need to be smart and discreet about it.

For fuck sake don't go around asking everyone about it beforehand.

If you ask a lady beforehand and she says no and you throw her back, mami is going to want to know why you didn't select her and ask her why. Mami wants to know because she wants her commission for writing the voucher. The lady is going to tell the mami you wanted no condom and then she gets a pass from the mami for not getting selected. Then the girls are going to discuss it amongst themselves as well back at the couch. Good luck getting another girl from that couch or others because word is going to spread. So even if you find someone that would normally be willing to do it for a few extra rupiah, she won't because she will lose face back at her couch if the other ladies see her go with you and they all know you are asking about no condom. Just like Zippos posts below.

The worst thing in the world would be to go around and start asking mamis and ladies for no condom. Mami wants to write vouchers and tickets. Sick ladies that can't work can't make the mami money for writing vouchers.

Best advice is roll the dice and discuss it privately and discreetly in the room. Some will. Some won't. Take your chances. Classic is cheap.

This is very very likely. Every girl I've bb at Classic opened the packet, unwrapped the cover, and threw it in the trash like it had been used.

Use your big head and just take the 375 k loss if you end up with a provider who's not giving you the service you want. Go back downstairs after having a little fun, and pick another one. It's not a big loss.

[NoGermaphobe]

Interestingly enough, when I was there in December, there were Bluebirds right outside of KC on the other side of the street from the parking gate. About 3 or 4 of them right in front of the make shift food tents. This was the first time I ever recall seeing Bluebirds in many years there. What I have done for the past few years though is just order a ride through GoJek or Grab and sit on the couch in the KC lobby and monitor their arrival after I settle up my bill. Usually takes a few minutes, but I can relax in comfort while I wait for them to arrive and walk out to the street when they get close. This was much later in the evening though than in the original report. IndoMaret was already closed and it was like 11 or closer to midnight as I recall.

Before GoJek and Grab were widespread, I often took the long walk up to the main road and would wait for a Bluebird to drive by. I often waited quite a while. But I would never use any non Bluebird taxi in Jakarta.

When you walk out of KC, look left, the dark street. Walk to the street and look right. Cross the street where there's an opening at the median. There's usually one Bluebird parked there, maybe two. Are those Bluebirds gone now? That was your only hope to find a taxi without pulling one up on My Bluebird or walking a million miles to the mall.

[NoGermaphobe]

Unless this is a new modification on certain banks' ATMs, there should be two options on any given ATM to choose from before you withdraw your cash.

That is:

"accept with currency conversion" - This usually has the BS fees the ATM owner charges. It is just 100% pure profit for the bank. It is called DCC, Dynamic Currency Conversion and you are essentially giving the ATM owner permission to convert the currency for you, for a fee.

"accept without currency conversion" - This should be closer to the spot exchange rate and your home bank will do the conversion for you when it processes the transaction. It will still usually be less than the spot exchange rates you see on XE, etc. But much better than using the ATM owner's DCC.

Interesting if BCA has somehow removed this option. I typically use CIMB Niaga. In December, they still had the option to decline the bank's DCC (Dynamic Currency Conversion). And at CIMB Niaga, you can typically withdraw 3 million.

I use an international ATM account that waives ATM fees. There's a new ripoff happening when I used BCA. They had a built in currency exchange rate that told you they charged 5%. So because it's not a flat fee, my ATM card can't waive that fee. I had to pay it. IDR is at 15500 for USD conversion and the BCA ATM converted it at 14800 for its service fee. What a rip off. The airport was selling IDR at 15300 and I should have just bought IDR there. Yes, I saw the single ATM, but just walk another 50 meters ahead, pass the door, and you'll see a bunch of exchange booths offering traveler rate.

Also, what's the deal now that so many ATM's limit the max cash out to 1,250,000? So stupid.

[BenderOver]

Now the bad part about going to KG now. There are no taxis any more. I even asked the Indomart guy and he said no taxis only Grab there. I literally waited from 6 pm to 6:48 pm before I got a taxi and that was only by luck cause a Bluebird taxi dropped someone off at the club.

When you walk out of KC, look left, the dark street. Walk to the street and look right. Cross the street where there's an opening at the median. There's usually one Bluebird parked there, maybe two. Are those Bluebirds gone now? That was your only hope to find a taxi without pulling one up on My Bluebird or walking a million miles to the mall.

[BenderOver]

Just warning others. At T2 airport after you exit the baggage area there is a row where there used to be a lot of ATMs but only 1 remains.

Someone has done something to it so it gives a msg that money isn't available but it still deducts it from your account.

I use an international ATM account that waives ATM fees. There's a new ripoff happening when I used BCA. They had a built in currency exchange rate that told you they charged 5%. So because it's not a flat fee, my ATM card can't waive that fee. I had to pay it. IDR is at 15500 for USD conversion and the BCA ATM converted it at 14800 for its service fee. What a rip off. The airport was selling IDR at 15300 and I should have just bought IDR there. Yes, I saw the single ATM, but just walk another 50 meters ahead, pass the door, and you'll see a bunch of exchange booths offering traveler rate.

Also, what's the deal now that so many ATM's limit the max cash out to 1,250,000? So stupid.