Jakarta

[Enzo2019]

It would be interesting to hear how you went at the mens spa as I've never had the opportunity to indulge myself. Given the prices at the Sky Lounge I can only guess in horror what the prices at the spa would be. Look forward to hearing about your experience there.

I popped in today after forgetting the past few days. Couple of decent looking girls working, there were more floating around but I didn't get a proper look at them. Asked for a Spa menu and was told there wasn't one, she then said massage would be 630 k for 90 minutes. Massage only. I'm not sure if that meant there was massage only available or that the price was for massage only and extras were available. At a guess extras could be negotiated with the "masseuse".

Cheers.

[Smoothy]

maybe I got bad experience at CJ.

I much prefer taking girls to my own room. The problem with CJs is the girls want too much money now. They all want 2 million these days. However, once you take them that first time for 2 million, you can call them other days and have them come to your place after that for 1 million. Totally different experience with a free lance girl compared to a brothel girl. But, you don't have to go to CJ's, it's easy to meet girls anywhere in Jakarta. Hell, you can go to McDonalds and chat up girls, get their phone numbers and be having sex soon enough. Tinder is off the hook easy to meet girls. I can't even remember the last time I went to a brothel in Jakarta. There's no need.

[BenderOver]

Hey guys, I'm an experienced world-wide pooner and visiting Jakarta for the first time for a couple of days at end of this month. Have read 20 pages of this forum, planning to visit Hotel Classic of course, and then perhaps a soapy at Kartika. Thanks for the intel.

I'd like to also have some girls at my hotel (Grand Mercure Harmoni), maybe even an overnight. Don't have time to do the Tinder / Seeking Arrangement / Badoo thing (and I only speak English), but will try WeChat. Anything else I should try? Any reliable escort agencies here? Any fave indy's? PM me if you prefer. Also, if you want to meet up for a beer or exchange stories.

R.

Definitely add Kota Indah to your list for low end greatness and CJ and BATS for high end yet a little overpriced deals.

I'd rather hit KI vs CJ 10 times versus 1 time. Maybe I got bad experience at CJ.

[BenderOver]

I would consider bouncing around the FL hangouts and if you click with somebody maybe invite her along for some of your trips out of Jakarta. Although that can become expensive for a couple of months. You certainly don't want to be spending 2 months in Jakarta, unless you are working there. You'll cover what tourist "attractions" there is very quickly, if that is what you are in to.

You could start some pre-work by using Tinder. Buy Gold membership for a month and start chatting to girls. They will quickly want to swap to Whatsapp, but to me that sounds not a problem for you as you can always get a pay as you go SIM card in Vietnam if you don't want to give out your phone number. Don't be shy, put in your profile that you're coming in for a month or two, looking for somebody to accompany you on some trips in and around Indonesia, and you will get all sorts of offers. Have a look at my previous post on here about Tinder. Yes, there are a bunch of FL on there, but they are pretty obvious. However, there are also girls just looking for some fun. They can't afford holidays themselves and are more than happy for "friend with benefits" arrangments. Set up a bunch of contacts on Tinder and have some try-outs in Jakarta the first week or two you are there. There are some diamonds on there, you just have to commit some time to finding them.

Having a long term steady will no doubt cost you more in the long run. Don't think you'll be saving money by keeping one girl happy there. They tend to burn through millions every week having latched onto you like an ATM machine. The benefit is you can have sex anytime you want as much as you want, so make sure face, body, and pussy fit your tastes. Also, you can probably do naughty things like making her drink your cum and assfucking her easier. But if the game of adventuring and seeking are your thing and you're stocked up on antibiotics, then cycling through the venues mentioned in this forum is the way to go. Average spend playing the field is about 700 k per punt over the long run. You'll find 8's face and body easy and GFE better than 50% of the time.

[Irish Mongrel]

Hi guys,

I am a digital migrant with a western income. I will be touching down in Jakarta around December 19 for up to 2 months. Touring Vietnam ATM. What is the best tactic for a stay of 1-2 months in or around Jakarta? Is it better to find a regular or just punt all the time? Thank you in advance.

I would consider bouncing around the FL hangouts and if you click with somebody maybe invite her along for some of your trips out of Jakarta. Although that can become expensive for a couple of months. You certainly don't want to be spending 2 months in Jakarta, unless you are working there. You'll cover what tourist "attractions" there is very quickly, if that is what you are in to.

You could start some pre-work by using Tinder. Buy Gold membership for a month and start chatting to girls. They will quickly want to swap to Whatsapp, but to me that sounds not a problem for you as you can always get a pay as you go SIM card in Vietnam if you don't want to give out your phone number. Don't be shy, put in your profile that you're coming in for a month or two, looking for somebody to accompany you on some trips in and around Indonesia, and you will get all sorts of offers. Have a look at my previous post on here about Tinder. Yes, there are a bunch of FL on there, but they are pretty obvious. However, there are also girls just looking for some fun. They can't afford holidays themselves and are more than happy for "friend with benefits" arrangments. Set up a bunch of contacts on Tinder and have some try-outs in Jakarta the first week or two you are there. There are some diamonds on there, you just have to commit some time to finding them.

[TrueGent]

Hi guys,

I am a digital migrant with a western income. I will be touching down in Jakarta around December 19 for up to 2 months. Touring Vietnam ATM. What is the best tactic for a stay of 1-2 months in or around Jakarta? Is it better to find a regular or just punt all the time? Thank you in advance.

[R The Man]

Hey guys, I'm an experienced world-wide pooner and visiting Jakarta for the first time for a couple of days at end of this month. Have read 20 pages of this forum, planning to visit Hotel Classic of course, and then perhaps a soapy at Kartika. Thanks for the intel.

I'd like to also have some girls at my hotel (Grand Mercure Harmoni), maybe even an overnight. Don't have time to do the Tinder / Seeking Arrangement / Badoo thing (and I only speak English), but will try WeChat. Anything else I should try? Any reliable escort agencies here? Any fave indy's? PM me if you prefer. Also, if you want to meet up for a beer or exchange stories.

R.

[Enzo2019]

Visited Malio Hotel tonight and was very impressed.

Went upstairs to the quiet bar, saw a few nice cuties while drinking a coffee. Went across to the restaurant / lounge and it was pretty packed with an assortment of locals and imports. Some of the imports were 8/9's in anyone's eyes (do 10's even exist?) but they all looked a bit too hardened for my liking. Had a quick beer and went back to the quiet bar and took a cutie I had my eye on. She was genuinely surprised to get picked from the line up and was all smiles with a touch of nervousness thrown in. Service was superb and totally unrushed despite a complete language barrier, she even initiated the second round even though I was satisfied. I complied anyway and fired off a second shot. Bit of google translate banter, a third shower, sat upstairs with her for a while, settled my bill and I was on my way back to the hotel.

Well worth a visit, I shall check out the club another night before I leave.

Cheers.

[Tommy Suharto]

After walking around town for a few days, I was in need of a massage so decided to combine one with our favourite hobby. A soapy at Kartika was deemed to be well in order.

Unfortunately, I couldn't remember exactly where it was and Google / Grab list 3 Kartika Massages near Hayam Waruk, none of them the right one. The correct location is not listed at all so I don't know what they did to piiss of the Google Gods. I was the proverbial guy that couldn't get laid in a brothel, driving around in circles, lost, long enough for Maps to flatten the battery of my cell phone. Back to the hotel room to do some more research and find out wtf is going on: yes, it is still open; yes it's along H Waruk; it's in the same alley as Berlian and Berlian is on the map. Off we go for attempt 2.

Sure enough we easily find Berlian and Kartika is there, plain as day, a couple of doors down. At 6 pm there are two Indonesian guys at the bar and about 10 girls in the lounges. None are stunners so I have a drink and wait to see if better options appear. Nothing does and after making so much effort to get here, there is no way I'm backing out.

I kid myself that the girl in blue is a diamond in the rough, prepay 380 k inc my drink and upstairs we go. The massage is actually pretty good on my old frame, progressing from a regular rub down to a two sided body rub. Then it was a CBJ and CFS. I got the job done, she was pleasant and chatty (in Indonesian) during the massage but it wasn't an earth shattering session. I did complain about both prepayment and the CBJ but to be honest, I didn't put up too much of a fight.

At the price I can't argue much. I got a shot away. She was no 19 yo stunner but wasn't ugly either. I would have paid the same amount just for the massage elsewhere and that alone was pretty good.

I'm leaving Jakarta soon so if this trip was an attempt to relive fond memories of wild times it was a bit of a bust. I did enjoy returning but it is a different town. Bricks and mortar fun palaces have receded and online delivery of exceptionally pretty girls are in the process of taking their place. Some will miss the old ways and some will thrive in the new marketplace.

Enjoy. G.

Nice. Good call, Soapy's are fun. One of those old-time Jakarta Icons.

The only place I would consider for visit north of Monas, these days, to be honest. My last visit was in 2013. By the look of it, prices haven't changed much, since. 380 k. 30 k for the drink. I remember both Berlian and Kartika are open early, like 11 am in the morning. And if you would visit midweek, you'd be spoiled for choice, many girls available.

I don't think they are listed on Google, (you can see their sign if you look up Berlian and then hit Streetview), but look for the famous Suisse Bakery on Hayam Wuruk, is easiest.

[Enzo2019]

My experiences with girls like that have always been interesting to say the least (in a bad way). The fact that I don't even try it anymore speaks volumes.

All I am saying is that these girls readily give their numbers out, but it's quite rare for any of them to actually meet a customer outside their place of work. And if you do happen to get them to meet you outside their place of work, my guess is you be disappointed. But I do look forward to your report.

You don't get the feeling the girl was being controlled? I guess that's relative. Are they like the kidnapped girls you see in the movie Taken? No.

I have no intention of meeting this girl out with her work schedule nor will I be repeating with her during work. Therefore there will be no further report despite your predictions based on your own experiences.

Believe it or not I actually joined this forum to contribute, I have no idea why you and Golfinho are acting like I'm a noob who's asking for info without RTFF.

[Smoothy]

At no point did I say or even make out like it was an achievement. From past posts on this forum one BM states that it cost him a cell phone order to arrange an outside meet because the girl was scared of being caught. It very well may be the case but I didn't get the feeling that the girl was being controlled, my personal experience.

I might be new to Jakarta and this forum but I can assure you I'm more than socially and intellectually calibrated, so you can save your condescending discretion comment.

All I am saying is that these girls readily give their numbers out, but it's quite rare for any of them to actually meet a customer outside their place of work. And if you do happen to get them to meet you outside their place of work, my guess is you be disappointed. But I do look forward to your report.

You don't get the feeling the girl was being controlled? I guess that's relative. Are they like the kidnapped girls you see in the movie Taken? No. But their family is in debt to the people running the place. They feel they are doing their part to help their family by working there, but they are not just free to come and go as they please with no repercussions.

[Smoothy]

Relevance? What does it matter? He's not white knighting her. If the GFE is worth repeating and she's this good to all the customers and cute with a body, then 4. If it's slow or she's saving the GFE for lucky guy here, then 0.

I've seen a providers monthly account before. It looks like a professional balance sheet. About 20 sessions in 3 weeks time.

4 guys a day? That would be one of the mediocre girls. The best looking girls in those places go with 6 to 8 guys a day. Only the very ugliest ones get 0 in a day even if it's slow.

[BenderOver]

In the intervening 24 hours, how many customers would we reckon this girl at Classic brothel, err Hotel, would have taken on before this guy bumps into her again?

Relevance? What does it matter? He's not white knighting her. If the GFE is worth repeating and she's this good to all the customers and cute with a body, then 4. If it's slow or she's saving the GFE for lucky guy here, then 0.

I've seen a providers monthly account before. It looks like a professional balance sheet. About 20 sessions in 3 weeks time. And they're begging for work / customers. It's really a pretty sad situation but I'm enough of a hypocrite to visit Kota Indah nightly still.

[Enzo2019]

It would be interesting to hear how you went at the mens spa as I've never had the opportunity to indulge myself. Given the prices at the Sky Lounge I can only guess in horror what the prices at the spa would be. Look forward to hearing about your experience there.

Will pop in and gather some intel later on.

Cheers.

In the intervening 24 hours, how many customers would we reckon this girl at Classic brothel, err Hotel, would have taken on before this guy bumps into her again?

You're quoting me then referring to me in third person, not sure what you're getting at with this question. I'll take it literally and just assume that you're mentally challenged and don't understand what "spin her a little lie" means.

[Enzo2019]

They're not all under the same boss. There's some scheme going around though. A girl's contract requires her to work fornthe same boss for a set period of time and leaving that boss early gets an added five million rupiah fine. So I don't know if the bosses harass the girls or slow down their business, but it forces the girls to leave early to another boss. Thus the new boss has to pay the fine for the girl, and there the debt adds up even more.

Not all girls are in debt like this. You know if they have their original KTP in their possession. The first one I met was a skinny tattooed beauty with firm the breasts and great nipples. Not dropdead cute, but certainly slutty beautiful. I asked her if she had a boyfriend. She replied no, and she didn't want one. She's focused on work to get herself out of that place. It didn't sound like she was locked in a debt Bond as I recall reading that she's been there for a couple of years already and always plays it safe CBJ CFS no kissing. So she's on a mission to get ahead in life working at classic. Good on her.

I haven't been to classic for over a year. I guess I like it too much and it gets me in trouble. Been floating around Kotah Indah finding one ATF after another.

Appreciate the clarification and good to know that not all are in the same situation.

Cheers.