Jakarta

[SoberHans69]

A while back, I did a bit of research by asking for quotes from the girls who advertised on Twitter. Their prices ranged from 900 k - 1. 5 million for ST. All their prices seemed to oscillate within this range. I think it may be on the high side, but I don't really know. Besides these girls require deposit and I don't operate that way, so I never really tried them.

Thanks again for your help, wish I could buy you a beer to say thanks.

[Ggekko2009]

Thanks for the reply, really appreciate it.

What kind of prices should I be offering to freelancers for ST on dating apps, looked through the thread and seen some figures but they seem to be for LT only.

A while back, I did a bit of research by asking for quotes from the girls who advertised on Twitter. Their prices ranged from 900 k - 1. 5 million for ST. All their prices seemed to oscillate within this range. I think it may be on the high side, but I don't really know. Besides these girls require deposit and I don't operate that way, so I never really tried them.

[OldSnake]

Well just to be clear I said I like the FL in starmoon they look nice. About the sex mafia and their effects and us choosing not to go there I already answered. I don't think seriously at all.

Seriously? Starmoon is the worst example of sex slaves you will find in Jakarta. All of those girls are under contract.

[Smoothy]

A part of an article in The Jakarta Post:

With only four months to go before the end of its 2014-2019 term, the House of Representatives is determined to pass the revised Criminal Code (KUHP), which has taken decades and has been burdened with contentious articles that critics call a threat to citizens' privacy and the fight against corruption. In a recent meeting, the members of House Commission III overseeing human rights, security and legal affairs agreed to include several articles that aim to regulate public morality, which criminalize consensual sex between two unmarried people, cohabitation, adultery and The articles have also been made "gender-neutral", which means that they also criminalize LGBT sex.

Of course you can create opportunities then, but what I fear most will be the snitches!

This is absolutely disgusting. Hopefully nothing comes of it.

[Smoothy]

I do like the starmoon FL more.

Seriously? Starmoon is the worst example of sex slaves you will find in Jakarta. All of those girls are under contract.

[OldSnake]

The Times I think in your lines I still go there thinking I can give a generous tip and fill the time which if not would be taken by anyone else.

Though I agree to what you say not sure how our absence would make a difference. The country is done for and one less dick may not do anything.

I do like the starmoon FL more. Mongering does not have defcon levels in morality either you pay or you don't.

OS.

Girls working in places like Classic are essentially sex slaves. I stop going there for ST after learning the fact.

One suggestion is when you go to some of these places where they do offer freelancers. By that definition, I assume they are working there on their own free will. Maybe veterans of this forum can correct me if I am wrong. Some of these places that I do know have these freelancers include BFashion, Emporium, 108. Other folks can probably recommend other places as well.

Another suggestion is for you to walk through lokasari at Mangga Besar at night. I think it is relatively safe but you still need to be aware of the surrounding. There are plenty of freeelancers there. Avoid pimps offering you girls from vans. Those girls are in the same bind as they are controlled by mafia as well. For upscale FL, visit CJ or BATS.

[SoberHans69]

Girls working in places like Classic are essentially sex slaves. I stop going there for ST after learning the fact.

One suggestion is when you go to some of these places where they do offer freelancers. By that definition, I assume they are working there on their own free will. Maybe veterans of this forum can correct me if I am wrong. Some of these places that I do know have these freelancers include BFashion, Emporium, 108. Other folks can probably recommend other places as well.

Another suggestion is for you to walk through lokasari at Mangga Besar at night. I think it is relatively safe but you still need to be aware of the surrounding. There are plenty of freeelancers there. Avoid pimps offering you girls from vans. Those girls are in the same bind as they are controlled by mafia as well. For upscale FL, visit CJ or BATS.

Thanks for the reply, really appreciate it.

What kind of prices should I be offering to freelancers for ST on dating apps, looked through the thread and seen some figures but they seem to be for LT only.

[Ggekko2009]

Do any of you guys feel bad going to places like Hotel Classic etc, knowing that the girls might be working there against there will.

Really want to visit Jakarta as I love STs and having a variety of different girls and these places seem ideal for me but this kind of puts me off.

I know this happens all over the world but I do make an effort when mongering to try and find girls who choose to do that type of work.

Girls working in places like Classic are essentially sex slaves. I stop going there for ST after learning the fact.

One suggestion is when you go to some of these places where they do offer freelancers. By that definition, I assume they are working there on their own free will. Maybe veterans of this forum can correct me if I am wrong. Some of these places that I do know have these freelancers include BFashion, Emporium, 108. Other folks can probably recommend other places as well.

Another suggestion is for you to walk through lokasari at Mangga Besar at night. I think it is relatively safe but you still need to be aware of the surrounding. There are plenty of freeelancers there. Avoid pimps offering you girls from vans. Those girls are in the same bind as they are controlled by mafia as well. For upscale FL, visit CJ or BATS.

[SoberHans69]

Do any of you guys feel bad going to places like Hotel Classic etc, knowing that the girls might be working there against there will.

Really want to visit Jakarta as I love STs and having a variety of different girls and these places seem ideal for me but this kind of puts me off.

I know this happens all over the world but I do make an effort when mongering to try and find girls who choose to do that type of work.

[Menteng]

A part of an article in The Jakarta Post:

With only four months to go before the end of its 2014-2019 term, the House of Representatives is determined to pass the revised Criminal Code (KUHP), which has taken decades and has been burdened with contentious articles that critics call a threat to citizens' privacy and the fight against corruption. In a recent meeting, the members of House Commission III overseeing human rights, security and legal affairs agreed to include several articles that aim to regulate public morality, which criminalize consensual sex between two unmarried people, cohabitation, adultery and [CodeWord123]. The articles have also been made "gender-neutral", which means that they also criminalize LGBT sex.

Of course you can create opportunities then, but what I fear most will be the snitches!

[BabaLoda]

Glad to hear you are helping him out with some phone numbers.

You can sense the exhilaration too) partake in the noble cause my friend. The lord watches over you.).

[BabaLoda]

I think he might also be bored of bonking the same chicks on his roster. No matter how good a girl is, after 5 or 6 rendezvous, I lose interest in her. In my mongering career of over 2 decades I have only had 5 - 6 girls who have lasted for more than a year. And none of them made it beyond 3 years. Maybe this will change when I get older and slower.

Very true. You don't fish at the same place, over and over (well at least some of us).

[BabaLoda]

If you have been mongering from one spot to another already, you should have built up your own list of girl's phone numbers by now. That's the whole point of going one place to another. Get as many numbers as you can, then call them to your room. Sounds like you are already set, you just need to give those girls a call.

Thanks for your reply. But I don't usually store any numbers. Digital is a tricky world and no matter how much we try to cover our footprints, eventually they do come to light. Even when I go I leave my phone behind. Its only me and my wallet (only cash, no credit card). As far as using the email address, I use it for a month and then delete the account. Hence the request. If you have any. Do share. Otherwise. Thanks for your pov.

[Smoothy]

I think he might also be bored of bonking the same chicks on his roster. No matter how good a girl is, after 5 or 6 rendezvous, I lose interest in her. In my mongering career of over 2 decades I have only had 5 - 6 girls who have lasted for more than a year. And none of them made it beyond 3 years. Maybe this will change when I get older and slower.

Glad to hear you are helping him out with some phone numbers.

[Smoothy]

I think this is a SOP with girls at almost all brothels / spas. I think the meager money they make per fuck motivates them to moonlight on their days off.

Not in my experience. None of the girls other than the dancers will visit on their day off because they are controlled by the mafia. The only days those girls have off is when they are on their period. King Cross is an exception. And it seems like every girl at King Cross will do it. I've literally NEVER had any girl (other than the dancers) from a place like Hotel Classic, Kota Indah, etc visit me on their day off. Not once in 20 years. Believe me, I've asked them many times but they never come. The only time they ever want to visit is when they are on the rag. Forget that. I have over 100 phone numbers of girls from places other than King Cross but that is just to let them know I am coming to visit them, they will never come to my place unless I pay the "booking out" fee to the brothel of over 2 million rupiah. (I believe it is 2.7 million these days to book out a girl who is 380k for an hour at the brothel)