Jakarta

[Smoothy]

CJs and BATS I've avoided as I don't fancy my chances there. Over 60, fat and brown!

Old Indian men is the target of preference for CJs girls. It doesn't matter if you are fat.

[Offshore Swell]

I mean what is the point? They are invariably far too loud and given the acoustics of every bar or club anywhere, the quality of the music, even if the band was as good as the original artists (and needless to say they aren't), will be worse than anything you could listen to on your on iPod. Or for that matter if the music was simply streamed at a reasonable volume through the bar's own sound system off YouTube.

If I want to listen to classic rock played too loud I can do that in the comfort of my car for free. I go to a bar to have a drink and a chat with my mates or if I go alone to meet someone, which again involves chatting. But how can you have any sort of conversation when you can't make yourself heard over a badly executed rendition of "Honky Tonk Woman" played through an amplification system whose volume is at Yankee Stadium setting?

Come on bands, turn the volume down, just a bit, believe me we can still hear you seated as we are only twenty feet from your speakers. And would it kill you to learn some tracks that were written some time after Ronald Reagan stood down and let us normal guys enjoy the evening too?

Couldn't agree more on the volume thing. Theres nothing more annoying than trying to have a conversation. Yep some of us actually grew up in an era where you actually talked to each other when you went out and some moron has cranked the volume up on a third rate band and you are the only people in the place.

One of the ubiquitous sounds of Indonesia is ' Azan", the call to prayer. Properly done it can be hauntingly beautiful but too often it gets belted out through a $10 "corong" at 120 watts of amplification and just dumbs down to nothing the whole experience. You may as well just set an alarm clock to remember to pray.

The same with those bands. It's just the dumbing down of things to a formula to meet the risk averse needs of Mr Average. It's why chefs all want to cook with salmon and we all want our kids to be doctors and lawyers. It's low risk. Same for why 90 % of the reports here are about the same four venues of Classic, Malioboro, CJ's or Blok M. Everybody is assured of getting 60% of what they wanted 60% of the time and they're happy to pay for it. OS is like HL77. Just wants to throw a fucking brick at them.

YY Bar in Grogol can sometimes have some interesting dangdut. It's a seedy, smoky dive of a bar one alley over from New Medika. If the singer still has the microphone it can be enjoyable but too often some drunk local ends up on the podium. But then there's girls, lots of them, young, half of them hostile to bules. 250 thousand will get you fun times upstairs if you can convince the mama, who is a real biitch to bring you the girl you want.

But it sure beats eyeing up some overpriced old boiler at CJ's while listening to all those 70's covers.

[Smoothy]

Moliendo Cafe,

Been hearing that song in the Jakarta bars since the 60's. Julio Iglesias sings dangdut bro.

Haha, you are so right, almost every band in Jakarta plays that song every night. It was also a number one hit in Japan in 1961.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtYwedMuPyo

[KingCrimson69]

I would be very interested to know too, especially those that play live jazz music. There used to be such a lounge a few years back called Top Cat if not mistaken, but I think it has gone out of business. I noticed many such lounges go out of business, maybe due to high operating costs.

That's surprising considering Jakarta has such a vibrant "jazz culture" I've been visiting for the past 8 years in Feb / Mar for Jva Jazz. It's incredible. The crowds, local & regional bands and some great international acts. Surely with so much love for the genre, there must be performance venues.

Personally I've not checked that out as I have a blast at the usual places. Malio, classic, King Cross, Kota Indah etc. Thanks to a few recent reports will venture out to Tanjung Priok. CJs and BATS I've avoided as I don't fancy my chances there. Over 60, fat and brown! Having said that, I find the people of Indonesia very welcoming and friendly.

[Hilo77]

What music are they allowed to enjoy then?

Whatever music they like old chum, whatever music they like.

And I am equally "allowed" to have an opinion on the music, as I am also a customer there.

See how it works?

[UsPete]

What music are they allowed to enjoy then?

Moliendo Cafe,

Been hearing that song in the Jakarta bars since the 60's. Julio Iglesias sings dangdut bro.

[Uncle Volodya]

Not sure if I'm allowed to do that but if you search under Jakarta street girls, one of the top hits will be Freelancers at daytime. At. 025 secs you will see the mamasan I met. None of the girls in the vid were seen by me BTW.

Thanks! As far as I know you are allowed to post links here if strictly informative. But probably bad form to post links to another monger site or for self promotion.

[Marky1]

Yeah perhaps it's the places I frequent but the sight of a table of blokes clearly old enough to be grandfathers but still too young to have been there for the music when it first got an airing, cheering and raising their beers in salute, heads swinging along in closed-eye tribute to the finely honed lyrics of "Bad Moon Rising", just makes me want to launch my glass at the lead singer. Did they not listen to any music in the past 40 years?

It's as bizarre as going into a club in the 1990's and finding it full of hep cats jiving to "Chatanooga Choochoo" with their bobby-soxer best girls. All that music since 1970 and still Proud Mary keeps on turning. Rolling, rolling.

I heard Mick and Keith expressing the same worries about you mate.

What music are they allowed to enjoy then?

[Hilo77]

I know you used to visit blok m frequently and those bands did play the oldies. However, the bands at CJs and BATS absolutely do play current music. Too damn current for me! I actually preferred the bands that played the oldies at Top Gun and Oscars. Jaya Pub still does have bands that play those old songs.

Yeah perhaps it's the places I frequent but the sight of a table of blokes clearly old enough to be grandfathers but still too young to have been there for the music when it first got an airing, cheering and raising their beers in salute, heads swinging along in closed-eye tribute to the finely honed lyrics of "Bad Moon Rising", just makes me want to launch my glass at the lead singer. Did they not listen to any music in the past 40 years?

It's as bizarre as going into a club in the 1990's and finding it full of hep cats jiving to "Chatanooga Choochoo" with their bobby-soxer best girls. All that music since 1970 and still Proud Mary keeps on turning. Rolling, rolling.

as long as they all stay healthy for the next few months.

I heard Mick and Keith expressing the same worries about you mate.

[RakeSeries2]

Great report. Off the beaten path. Though ironically in the center of old town. Can you post a link to the guy's youtube video that you refer to?

Not sure if I'm allowed to do that but if you search under Jakarta street girls, one of the top hits will be Freelancers at daytime. At. 025 secs you will see the mamasan I met. None of the girls in the vid were seen by me BTW.

[Uncle Volodya]

There are a few YouTube vids of a guy walking around Mangga Besar with a go pro chatting to freelancers and mamasans. I thought I'd check out the area and see what I could find.

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Great report. Off the beaten path. Though ironically in the center of old town. Can you post a link to the guy's youtube video that you refer to?

[Smoothy]

And that's the next thing, Rolling Stones? Really? I passed my half-century mark a couple of years back and even I am too young to remember that stuff when it came out first time around. Have the live bands of Jakarta not heard of any music that happened post-1975?

And would it kill you to learn some tracks that were written some time after Ronald Reagan stood down and let us normal guys enjoy the evening too?

I know you used to visit blok m frequently and those bands did play the oldies. However, the bands at CJs and BATS absolutely do play current music. Too damn current for me! I actually preferred the bands that played the oldies at Top Gun and Oscars. Jaya Pub still does have bands that play those old songs.

On a side note, I have tickets to see the Rolling Stones in Miami in April. Should be a great show as long as they all stay healthy for the next few months.

[Hilo77]

Each to their own and and my preferences are not those of other people and vice versa I get that, but I really hate the live band scene in Jakarta.

I mean what is the point? They are invariably far too loud and given the acoustics of every bar or club anywhere, the quality of the music, even if the band was as good as the original artists (and needless to say they aren't), will be worse than anything you could listen to on your on iPod. Or for that matter if the music was simply streamed at a reasonable volume through the bar's own sound system off YouTube.

This isn't rural Ireland back in the days of the dance hall when the only way we could hear the latest hot hits was to go on a Friday night to listen to the showbands at the local hop, we have all this music already recorded and at our fingertips in multiple quadraphonic formats now.

If I want to listen to classic rock played too loud I can do that in the comfort of my car for free. I go to a bar to have a drink and a chat with my mates or if I go alone to meet someone, which again involves chatting. But how can you have any sort of conversation when you can't make yourself heard over a badly executed rendition of "Honky Tonk Woman" played through an amplification system whose volume is at Yankee Stadium setting?

And that's the next thing, Rolling Stones? Really? I passed my half-century mark a couple of years back and even I am too young to remember that stuff when it came out first time around. Have the live bands of Jakarta not heard of any music that happened post-1975? You see blokes in their forties dancing with hotties in their twenties, white guy underbite, bad jive moves and all, to music that was trendy a quarter of a century or almost forty years before either of them was born, and they really believe they have got their mojo on. God, it depresses me and makes me want to swallow up my beer and slink off quietly to the car park.

Come on bands, turn the volume down, just a bit, believe me we can still hear you seated as we are only twenty feet from your speakers. And would it kill you to learn some tracks that were written some time after Ronald Reagan stood down and let us normal guys enjoy the evening too?

Sorry Smoothy, just venting here.

[RakeSeries2]

There are a few YouTube vids of a guy walking around Mangga Besar with a go pro chatting to freelancers and mamasans. I thought I'd check out the area and see what I could find.

Close to Loksari sq I found a small market place ringed with budget parlours and restaurants. Walking back I sighted a mamasan from one of videos seated to the side and under the shade of a warung. "Girl?" Suddenly 3 SYT's appeared. Two were short and dark, one sexy in a kind of street urchin way. The third was taller, had well developed breasts, with a very pretty face but a little puffy with baby fat age hadn't dissolved. She was also the youngest at 18. The others being 20 and 21. Naturally I choose her.

300 k lighter we walked to the nearby Safari hotel. A stop in the indomart for condoms and a water for her. She also requested cigarettes and no alcohol beer for her friends LOL.

The hotel was 100 k and if you have ever mongered in Chinatown BKK you will know the kind of dive it was. I showered as she put on the TV, settling in to watch Spongebob. After she showered she lay on the bed, her perfectly round teen titties demanding my attention.

Next, I moved down, removed the towel and devoured her lovely pussy. She had a smooth, bare lips with a thick lock on top in a kind of over grown French cut that accentuated her tender years.

I started with delicate licks and she quickly moved her arm to her mouth to muffle her moans. Slowly, she spread her legs wider as I alternated between lapped her juices and wiggling across her clit. Listening to her moan and tasting her got me rock hard so after 10 minutes I moved next to her and asked her to suck me.

She licked around my head and with her delicate mouth around me I became concerned I might pop before the main course.

I rubbed up and got on top. "Slowly" she urged. She was tight and I took it easier on her. Every few minutes I would lower my face to hers, kiss her neck, breath in her cheap perfume and enjoy some DFK. Her kissing was a real surprise and I got the impression she was enjoying herself. At one point I turned her over and got a great view of her round ass and perfectly tight shit hole.

I finished in mish with my tongue in her mouth and arms wrapped tightly around her and stayed inside until every drop had emptied inside. After showering she asked for a tip so I handed her the change from buying the beer, gum and cigarettes and she smiled with a cute screw of her face and left. Damage: 470. GFE: 11. Flew home the next day but would repeat.

[BabaLoda]

Anyone visited this place? 108 the new atmos. Any views / reviews?