Jakarta

[Smoothy]

Smoothy often compares Classic to Maribaya. I'm definitely in that camp.

I compare them for contrast only. Classic has young attractive girls who provide terrible service and are crap shags. Maribaya has older less attractive girls who provide awesome service and are great shags. It just depends what you are looking for.

[MasBule]

The girl I went with at Classic actually refused me doggy when I asked her, I insisted and she still refused and there was an impasse for a while but she eventually relented. Is this normal at Classic? If so I would not be returning even with the favorable rate.

There is a direct relationship between the higher the turnover of customers in a shift to the level of refusal and bad service.

Classic (2nd floor especially) is probably the busiest and largest number of hookers in the city in one-spot.

Some will even refuse to even go with you as a white guy.

I don't like it, but I understand. If you got to fuck 8-guys a night, better you choose the guys who don't make you walk funny afterwards (they believe we all have big schlongs).

Also. My other theory is? And this needs to be verified by others.

If I get bad service or refusal, then I often feel compelled to give a damn good banging to the girl.

If she is friendly and trying hard to please, then I'm ok with not being too athletic and often more at ease with going with the flow and enjoying the girls talents.

BUT. Then it becomes a viscous circle right? If the girl knows she isn't into it and you will give her a good one. So then she refuses doggy etc.

Anyone else agree?

Smoothy often compares Classic to Maribaya. I'm definitely in that camp.

[MasBule]

Am coming Jakarta for fun and girls. Need some help from experts.

1. Which place to stay to have best sex nearby.

2. I don't drink only sex what will be daily budget requirement in $$.

3. Is blok M and hotel classic nearby?

4. What to do during daytime as an there only for 3 days in Jakarta?

5. Best soapy massage near the hotel you suggest with charges?

6. Which places I should not miss for adult fun?

Please help me experts. Will plan accordingly.

1. Kota area for sure. Grand mecure or novotel is top of the list at $80-100 USD. Varies right down to the likes of the Hollywood hotel at $20 USD, and all in between. WHATS YOUR BUDGET?

2. $30 USD to $300 USD, what are you into? WHATS YOUR BUDGET?

3. Opposite ends of the city and an entirely different experience. 2 hrs++ in peak hour, 1 HR otherwise.

4. Goto a mall, watch a movie (cheap), buy a LT girl breakfast, goto a mall, buy some copy DVD's, get a massage, goto a mall.

5. Limited soapy options IMHO. RTFF on Kartika. But you could always try DELTA spa which now offers a 'wet massage' and it opens from midday I believe. I haven't been yet, but I am sure the forum would like a report.

6. What are you into? AND WHATS YOUR BUDGET, If it was me in order. ;.

A) Goto top floor Alexis bordello and grab a cabana, take a girl in her swimsuit into the openair rooftop pool, then later to a VIP room. If you can afford two girls then even better. $$.

B) Goto CJ's if its a Wed night for a hottie LT FL, $$ (backup options is BATS $$, or TopGun BlokM if your budget is a lower $).

C) Goto Malio club for the best (although not BKK standards) strip show in the city, don't go overboard with the LD's $$.

D) Goto a top nightclub. Depends on your age / looks and ability to pull on your own, this forum rarely talks about where the really beautiful classy women party (Empirica, Blowfish, Immigrant, X2) . OR goto a nightlcub in the large karaoke type places, so if you pull on the dancefloor or hookup with a bunch of locals (very likely if you smile and chat to them. You will often be invited to a table) like Golden Crown or Illegals, they have private rooms as well. Do RTFF on all these places.

Good luck and report back please.

[Hihi Ster]

Went to Malioboro. Got my bracelet at reception on the ground floor and went straight to where the action is on the second floor. When I entered it actually was not exactly as I expected. I was anticipating raucous action with naked or half naked ladies gyrating on stage and on gent's laps but that was not so. Instead I found the place very civilized with a few girls in bikinis dancing delicately on stage and punters sitting at tables chatting with ladies who almost appeared like guests. Make no bones about it though there were many ladies of the night who were absolutely gorgeous. Persons who have described the girls here as amazing are not exaggerating by any means.

That's because you went to the brothel area. If you go to the club area (2nd entrance just passed the first one, or reachable through the 2nd /3rd floor passing the rooms) you'll find the full naked girls dancing on stage, naked girls giving lap dances and occasionally blowjobs right in the club. (A BJ costs 20 shots, that equals 1 million IDR). They usually bring you upstairs to the curtained boots but I've seen (and had) it done right on the sofa's in the club as well. Don't try it on the standing tables though, that won't work.

[WazSammy]

Am coming Jakarta for fun and girls. Need some help from experts.

1. Which place to stay to have best sex nearby.

2. I don't drink only sex what will be daily budget requirement in $$.

3. Is blok M and hotel classic nearby?

4. What to do during daytime as an there only for 3 days in Jakarta?

5. Best soapy massage near the hotel you suggest with charges?

6. Which places I should not miss for adult fun?

Please help me experts. Will plan accordingly.

[Member #4698]

Went to Malioboro. Persons who have described the girls here as amazing are not exaggerating by any means.The place is absolutely incredible. I was like a kid in a candy store reminiscent of my first sight of Flower Street in a Chang Ping KTV. This place beats any Bangkok soapie hands down for beautiful women.

I asked her to lay down then proceeded to kiss her face, she did allow me to kiss her lips a little but only with her lips tightly sealed. I then proceeded to her breasts and the rest of her body. She absolutely would not allow DATY. So far I have been refused DATY in Indonesia; do they allow it? She capped me, blew me and we then proceeded to coitus. I am getting turned on now just thinking of it. For shame, Turgid, for shame, it was all over in less than ten minutes, actually. I just could not call back the soldiers. All the girls I have previously banged since coming to Thailand in June I have done so for no less than forty five minutes.

she readily gave me her phone number when asked. I certainly intend to contact her although I don't know how that would work out as she knows very little English. What I do know is that I will be sessioning with her again in spite of her nonchalent behavior and all the eye candy at Malioboro. Who knows after another session or two she may warm up to me.

Turgid,

Maliboro is great. Its one of my favorite places. I may have missed it, but I don't recall the price for your girl. If she was a hot harem girl, she should have been 1200. The imports get 1500 and the dancers get 1000 (10 drinks) + 1200. I don't think I would have taken a girl with the dour, bored attitude you ascribe to your girl no matter how attractive unless the mamasan guaranteed me of great performance, especially since there are a lot of very attractive girls in Malioboro exhibiting really robust friendly attitudes. Your girl's rather mixed performance bears out those early warning signs, but I can understand how beauty sometimes offsets other rather banal behavior. I have selected only outgoing sexually friendly girls who shoved their nipples into my mouth within seconds of meeting me and I have never had a Malioboro dancer refuse DFK, DATY, or even need my asking for a BBBJ. In fact, I have barebacked a couple of those sexy dancers. So I will continue to go only with the girls that indicate they want to have a good time and skip the ones acting like the session will be a chore.

On your last point; all punters have experienced sensory overload on rare occasions with a really hot girl they liked and consequently have shot off sooner than they would have preferred. Its no big deal unless it happens all the time. The last time it happened to me was with a really hot Chinese girl at Rio Sauna in Macau a couple of years ago. I still remember that girl and the good times (plural) I had with her! She was so hot and she really turned me on. After we engaged in a prolonged 69, she impaled herself on my dick. I palmed her beautiful breasts and came in less than 5 minutes. I just couldn't control myself. LOL. My orgasm got away from me and was unstoppable. It felt good, but I couldn't help feeling inside that I had squandered a great moment and I couldn't wait to go back to Rio the next night and try the girl again.

We were both more familiar and relaxed with each other in the 2nd session. We got into another long time 69, then she mounted me and gave me Asian cowgirl for at least 15 minutes. When she began to tire, I picked her up, gently laid her on her back, and finished her off in mish. The phone rang indicating my time was up while we were still in each others arms. Obviously the 2nd session was more fulfilling than the 1st session and it restored my self image and footing with regards to the girl, but looking back and perhaps because of the 2nd session, I fondly remember losing control that 1st night with that truly hot girl. That loss of control does not happen to me very often. She was an amazing girl.

[Smoothy]

For shame, Turgid, for shame, it was all over in less than ten minutes, actually. I just could not call back the soldiers. All the girls I have previously banged since coming to Thailand in June I have done so for no less than forty five minutes.

10 minutes is long enough. Once I'm inside them, I'm normally done in less than 2 minutes. If you had lasted 45 minutes, the girl would likely not have given you her phone number.

[Turgid]

...then indicated she should flip herself over as a nice bit of doggy-style would finish the evening the way I wanted it. She flat out refused, with a sullen, contemptuous even, "gak mau, ah!" and indicating that she wasn't prepared to discuss the matter further....

The girl I went with at Classic actually refused me doggy when I asked her, I insisted and she still refused and there was an impasse for a while but she eventually relented. Is this normal at Classic? If so I would not be returning even with the favorable rate.

[Turgid]

Went to Malioboro. Got my bracelet at reception on the ground floor and went straight to where the action is on the second floor. When I entered it actually was not exactly as I expected. I was anticipating raucous action with naked or half naked ladies gyrating on stage and on gent's laps but that was not so. Instead I found the place very civilized with a few girls in bikinis dancing delicately on stage and punters sitting at tables chatting with ladies who almost appeared like guests. Make no bones about it though there were many ladies of the night who were absolutely gorgeous. Persons who have described the girls here as amazing are not exaggerating by any means.

The place is absolutely incredible. I was like a kid in a candy store reminiscent of my first sight of Flower Street in a Chang Ping KTV. This place beats any Bangkok soapie hands down for beautiful women. I was immediately approached by a mamasan who escorted me to a seat and called a waiter who took my drinks order. While seated another mamasan joined us which I found a bit odd but it seems as though there is good comraderie here. They both showed me their girls but I wasn't going to choose until I saw all the girls in the place. What I really wanted to do was walk around to get a better view of the ladies. One mamasan left but the other just sat with me trying to make conversation with her very limited English.

It appeared that she was not going to leave and I had no intention of being rude so I asked her to take me to her girls which she did. She said her girls were from 850,000 rupiah to 2,000,000 rupiah for some of her foreign girls (Viets, Chinese, Colombian and Russian). She introduced me to some who were very enticing indeed and I made a mental note of the number of one of the girls (Indonesian) who was tall with ass ets that I crave. I told the mamasan that when I am ready I would choose that one and I walked around the place with her in tow until she decided to leave me to my own devices. I was not overly impressed by the foreign girls, however, one Russian did look like a model and she appeared to really fancy herself.

I may have looked a bit odd as I walked to each group of girls checking them out, until I spied the absolutely most gorgeous beauty seated among others looking extremely bored. I had to have her. I anticipated a very poor performance just from her demeanor and level of hotness but was not going to let that deter me. Also many punters had passed her way but no one chose her which I found quite odd. I asked a waiter to locate the mamasan for her group and a few seconds later she came to me and I showed her my choice and I pointed at her directly, she asked me if I wanted the girl seated next to her but I maintained my focus. She called the girl who came up absolutely unenthusiastically, they did what was to be done and I was being escorted to the room by her.

I tried to make small talk but her English was very limited; however, I did try my best to make her laugh with very little success. She was not tall, about 5' 3". She undressed to reveal the absolutely most flawless body and her face was exquisite, attractive yet sexy and alluring; I had indeed made a very good physical choice. We washed and then proceeded to the bed.

I asked her to lay down then proceeded to kiss her face, she did allow me to kiss her lips a little but only with her lips tightly sealed. I then proceeded to her breasts and the rest of her body. She absolutely would not allow DATY. So far I have been refused DATY in Indonesia; do they allow it? She capped me, blew me and we then proceeded to coitus. I am getting turned on now just thinking of it. For shame, Turgid, for shame, it was all over in less than ten minutes, actually. I just could not call back the soldiers. All the girls I have previously banged since coming to Thailand in June I have done so for no less than forty five minutes. Its not the first time that this has happened to me, I remember a session with probably the most beautiful girl I have ever had relations with, a Chinese in Geylang in Singapore it was completed in even less time. What a pity this place is only a one pop shop.

One good thing about this encounter is that she readily gave me her phone number when asked. I certainly intend to contact her although I don't know how that would work out as she knows very little English. What I do know is that I will be sessioning with her again in spite of her nonchalent behavior and all the eye candy at Malioboro. Who knows after another session or two she may warm up to me. As you guys realize by now I have a weakness for stunning women. When she asked for a tip I could not refuse considering my plans. BATS and other establishments will have to wait.

[Traveler1234]

Whats a rolodex?

Is that some kind of smartphone )

I did say in semi-retirement mode, so you can guess my age. My first visit was back in 1982!

[The Red Baron]

My opinion

Thanks guys. This is gold!

[MasBule]

First time in Jakarta. I've been reading the forums and haven't been able to find some information.

I prefer taking girls back to my hotel room as I don't like short time / massage rooms.

If I stay at the Sparks, is it possible to order one of their massage girls up to my room?

Also, is it possible to take Travel girls back to my hotel?

Thanks guys!

My opinion, if you want girls to take back, for overnight or less, then as everyone else mentions CJs, BATS or BlokM is the go.

I would also mention MO's bar on a Tues night (its good on a Tues. Night, horrendous all other nights) , CJs is the best of the best and rocks on a Wed as mentioned already, I love BATS on a Sunday when everything else is quiet and its rockin, and BlokM always good Thu / Fri / Sat.

BUT as they don't really get happening until 11 pm, IF this was me. I'd try my luck elsewhere first for some variety with the plan of always ending up in those above. I don't know your age, budget or interest. For me I like variety for FL's and its great seeing them in their natural habitat.

I would:

- try bars on jalan jaksa, if you like open air bars with cold beer, t-shirt and shorts kinda places.

- try locals bars if you really feel like a low level challenge, dangut bars on Blora or Wahid Hasyim or Arab bars in Cikini.

- try expat sports bars where local girls are looking for a long or short term date, like Eastern Promise on Friday night at the back band area, Aphrodite, Jaya Pub on Fri nights.

- try higher class bars like Loewy, single girls are at the bar. Use your spidey-sense and wear your best Calvins.

These are all options if you want a bit of variety before hitting CJ's etc.

Again. Disclaimer some of these places are low level, boring at times or maybe not even productive for FLs at times, SO don't use them as your only source.

[Monsieur1875]

Whats a rolodex?

Is that some kind of smartphone )

It's actually the low tech version of the contact list of your smartphone.

[MasBule]

Whats a rolodex?

Is that some kind of smartphone )

Hehe. I'm in semi-retirement mode, early to bed, early to rise. I usually stay at Shangrila so Bats is easy in / out for early dinner, early 2-3 hr shag and then sleep. These days, I usually even lazier and just call from my rolodex, eat and screw at the same time in my room.

[Hilo77]

Sounds like a typical Classic experience though. That's a good description of a visit there.

Isn't it just?

I gave up on Classic a long time ago. I had enjoyed a long and fun-filled afternoon and having a few hours to spare decided to give Classic a last chance.

I got a good-looking girl brought to my table, tall and slim with a nice rack, after a while the conversation was a bit leaden but I kept it going as I couldn't be bothered making the change and because I liked the look of her body.

In the room the usual story, perfunctory BJ (at least it was uncovered) and then straight into missionary, I did that for a while and then indicated she should flip herself over as a nice bit of doggy-style would finish the evening the way I wanted it. She flat out refused, with a sullen, contemptuous even, "gak mau, ah!" and indicating that she wasn't prepared to discuss the matter further. Just to be clear here I wasn't seeking some foul perversion, I wasn't asking her to open her mouth so I could take a dump or something, I was requesting a standard sexual position that used to be the default session in brothels in my youth.

I did what I never did before, I whipped off the johnnie, threw it on the floor, showered and dressed and walked out of the room with neither a fond farewell nor a tip, leaving her alone to enjoy her walk of shame past the cleaning staff.

I wonder is it just bules who get this terrible service because we are regarded as soft touches. I somehow can't imagine a local punter, Chinese or otherwise, putting up wth that after handing over his hard-earned.