Jakarta

[Medellin Kuya]

If you are on that cheap of a budget, I'd recommend Cambodia.

I do not have a budget. Or, lets just say I could triple my expected spending and still be fine.

I do not need to spend a lot of money to have fun. I might take 1 trip to Hotel Classic just for the experience and go check out the scene at BlokM, CJ's, and Bats just to say I've been.

95% of my lays come from online and bars / clubs where the only money being spent is on having cheap lunch or movie dates or buying a few drinks at the bar / club.

Just looking to optimize getting my dick wet, having fun, and conserving money all at the same time.

[Member #4537]

For whatever reason, I find that the brothel girls up North do not perform as well when you bar fine them and take them home as they do when they are in the bar itself. They get lazy in my room, so it's normally not worth the trouble. At least that's my experience.

You're not the only one. Whenever I 'bar-fined' a girl who I thought was good when I booked her for an hour or had been going to her several times from one of the Kota knockshops, I ended up very disappointed. If I tried to initiate even one round after I'd got her back to my apartment, they'd say I was 'gila' or complain of being 'capek' and just wanted to watch TV, eat snacks or sleep all day. I think they take advantage of the situation knowing full well if you complained to the mamasan, they wouldn't care since you already paid the bill. Had there been a system where you would pay your barfine at the end before she left, I'm sure the situation would be different.

If you want to bring a girl to your place, better just get freelancers and always insist on paying in the end never upfront since this invites laziness.

[Smoothy]

If you are on that cheap of a budget, I'd recommend Cambodia.

[Medellin Kuya]

I decided not to extend my contract and will be finishing it in August.

Decided to spend 1 month in Jakarta and 1 month in the Philippines.

Going to try to keep my budget fairly tight. What are some of you guy's cheap date spots or routines?

Plan is to meet most girls online most days / nights of the week and go out alone one time each week to some of the popular night clubs.

[Smoothy]

Most of the places that are open during the day are exclusively on-site..

I think not just most of them, but all of them. At least as far as day action. And as you mentioned, they are on-site brothels where the girls are controlled by mamasans, not places for free lancers. Sorry, I had thought you only wanted free lancers.

Maribaya is the only place that truly gets going by 10 am. But the girls aren't extremely good looking and the price is 600 k for an hour (it may be 800 now, I'm not certain). Service is normally great though, so it's not a bad place to visit. It's possible to find a night shift girl at Maribaya who will visit you during the day if you get to know her, since her shift doesn't start until 5 pm. I used to have night shift girls visit me in my apartment around 2 pm frequently years ago. The day shift girls will also visit you after 5 pm. The Maribaya girls seem to still perform as well at your place as they do at the brothel itself.

If you don't want to shag on-site in a brothel during the day, another option could possibly be to bar fine a girl from a brothel in north Jakarta and take her to your room. You would have to buy her out at a cost equal to the number of hours you will have her at your place. So if the hourly rate is 350 k (the rate at the cheaper places up north), you would have to pay 1,400,000 rupiah to take a girl for 4 hours (plus tip). The 4 hours includes the time it takes for transit to and from your place. Considering traffic in Jakarta, this means you will probably only have her in your room for 2 hours out of the 4. You could pay to take her longer, but it's 350 k per hour you have her and needs to be paid to the mamasan before you ever even take her out of the bar. This is also dependent upon negotiations. Depending on the girl and the day of the week, they may negotiate differently. The bars in north Jakarta claim to get started at noon, but in reality 2 pm is about the time the girls start wandering in. By 3 pm, they are all there. However, there is a big downside to this strategy. For whatever reason, I find that the brothel girls up North do not perform as well when you bar fine them and take them home as they do when they are in the bar itself. They get lazy in my room, so it's normally not worth the trouble. At least that's my experience.

[LA Guy 5]

Any venues or Freelance providers available in the daytime? Any adviceappreciated.

It sounds like you are asking about P4P venues or freelancers, not just venues with freelancers. There are a few P4P venues such as Maribaya Massage in the Melawai Hotel, Malioboro, and some of the North Jakarta bars that are open during the daytime, although some of these don't get going until 3 pm or a bit later (Maribaya gets going earlier). However, overall Jakarta is more of a night-time city. Most of the places that are open during the day are exclusively on-site..

[Smoothy]

Any venues or Freelance providers available in the daytime? Any adviceappreciated.

This is the problem with Jakarta compared to the PI or LOS. There is almost nothing going on in the day time. It's possible to get a girl from online dating or tinder or even meeting a girl at the mall. It's also possible to line up a girl to come to your room who you have already met at a place such as Blok M or BATS during the night. However, there are no specific venues with free lancers during the day. And it's difficult to get a girl to come to your place until night time. Even if you line one up from a previous encounter. They like doing their work at night and sleeping during the day. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's not the norm.

[Ceegee]

Met two of those in Manila. Both were in the 19/20 age range and both were committed to saving the hymen but wanted to explore their own sexuality. I enjoyed obliging. Was hoping for a third but never found one.

Nice, I hope to get back to Manila soon, quite enjoyed my previous trips there.

It went pretty well last night. I had assumed she would have good BJ skills given the situation and I was not let down. Was quite relaxing actually, was watching TV while she did her job and knowing that nothing more was going to happen I just enjoyed the moment and when the time came let rip in her mouth. I lasted longer during the BJ than I usually do. Decided not to give it to her in the pooper, she had been a bit hesitant when we chatted beforehand and I was enjoying myself.

I don't think I would repeat this particular girl, I took her to dinner with me and she spent the whole time playing on her phone which always annoys me, but I won't run away screaming from the next girl who says I can only have her mouth or ass. Slipped her 500 k for taxi fare on the way out and slept like the proverbial baby.

[harryreams]

Any venues or Freelance providers available in the daytime? Any adviceappreciated.

[FreebieFan]

Tonight should be interesting, I have a girl meeting me at my hotel that says she is a virgin, she is happy to suck cock and take it in the ass, but I can't enter her pussy because she wants to save her pussy for her future husband! Has anybody run into this before? Seems kind of weird, but I am a glutton for punishment so I am going to find out how it goes.
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Met two of those in Manila. Both were in the 19/20 age range and both were committed to saving the hymen but wanted to explore their own sexuality. I enjoyed obliging. Was hoping for a third but never found one.

[Ceegee]

I had a girl in India like that in the past. She claimed to be a virgin as far as her pussy, but her ass was wrecked.

Haha, this one claims to have only taken it in the ass a couple of times and seems a bit worried. If she is a total dud I suppose I will hit blok M or see if I can find a replacement on the dating sites to come to my hotel.

[Smoothy]

Tonight should be interesting, I have a girl meeting me at my hotel that says she is a virgin, she is happy to suck cock and take it in the ass, but I can't enter her pussy because she wants to save her pussy for her future husband! Has anybody run into this before? Seems kind of weird, but I am a glutton for punishment so I am going to find out how it goes.

I had a girl in India like that in the past. She claimed to be a virgin as far as her pussy, but her ass was wrecked.

[Ceegee]

Tonight should be interesting, I have a girl meeting me at my hotel that says she is a virgin, she is happy to suck cock and take it in the ass, but I can't enter her pussy because she wants to save her pussy for her future husband! Has anybody run into this before? Seems kind of weird, but I am a glutton for punishment so I am going to find out how it goes.

Were you with me that night I met that chick with the white skin and huge breasts? She was fairly close friends with that tall 2 million chick, and I thought she was extremely hot in CJs. I'd have rated her the best in the place that night. Awesome tits!
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The reason I gave her 1 million instead of 1.5 is that she was such a crap shag and such a pain in the room. I'll never take her again.

I am always wary of the stunners for this reason. They don't have to provide good service cause they don't rely on repeat business. There will be a new guy there the next night drooling over them. Give me a deep throating, ass begging to be pounded 6 over a starfish 8 anyday.

[Smoothy]

But then again don't you see the ratio of girl-to-guy in BATS and CJ's? There's almost 10 girls for every monger, and a lot of them go several days without a customer. And half of the patrons aren't even looking for P4 P anyway.

It's a buyer's market and I take advantage of it. In fact, I've always got a girl for 1.000.000 (for ST) if it's near closing time and they feel I'm not desperate.

How about that tall chick we met that night who refused to go for less than 2 million? I think she'd be tough to impossible to get for 1 million even at closing time. Certain girls have a high self opinion. Unfortunately, those are normally the ones I consider to be the stunners. Yes, even though there are nights where the guys outnumber the girls, that can be misleading. There are probably 5 to 10 girls to every "cash spending monger" who is looking to spend the money it takes to have sex with those girls. But the problem is that only maybe 5 to 10 girls in the entire bar are stunners and they are almost always off the market by closing time. BATS has that stupid policy now that girls can't return to the bar after they go for a short time, so the stunners who take a customer early cannot return. It's rare to have a stunner in BATS alone at closing time (did see Mayang in there the other night at closing time and I consider her to be a stunner. But she was refusing guys who were offering her less than her going rate, even at closing time. My friend tried. LOL). However, there is more possibility at CJs because the BATS girls go there after they have done their first round to see if they can get another round in. I do agree that if it's one of the girls who does not get a customer every night, there is definitely a good chance to get her for a million at closing time.

Were you with me that night I met that chick with the white skin and huge breasts? She was fairly close friends with that tall 2 million chick, and I thought she was extremely hot in CJs. I'd have rated her the best in the place that night. Awesome tits! She did not negotiate price with me up front and just came home with me when I asked her at around midnight (probably because I had been with some of the other girls and she already knew I gave those girls 1.5 - the girls do talk to each other about such matters). I was prepared to give her between 1.5 and 2 million depending on how she serviced me in the room. But I ended up giving her 1 million. The reason I gave her 1 million instead of 1.5 is that she was such a crap shag and such a pain in the room. I'll never take her again. I have no doubt she would not have gone with me in the first place if she knew I'd only give her 1 million. I have avoided CJs for a while after that because I am sure she has slandered my name for giving 1 million. LOL. But it wasn't right to give her more than that considering how horrible she was in bed.

[Golfinho]

It's a buyer's market and I take advantage of it. In fact, I've always got a girl for 1.000.000 (for ST) if it's near closing time and they feel I'm not desperate.

Then you could help the Smoothy guy out how you do it, unless of course he's holding out for only top quality.