Jakarta

[Adindas]

My buddy sent me this link and I was wondering what this whole thing mean not just for us but for their whole tourism and hotel industry in general.

https://travel.detik.com/travel-news...-belum-menikah

This link is all in Bahasa and I am only able to understand part of it. In short, my buddy told me that only married couple can register and check into the hotel. If not, one could be subjected to fines. This sound so dumb and it feels almost laughable. The morality party are just some of the dumbest f#ck.

Any ideas from anyone over there and know anything about this? Or is is it probably just nothing to worry? As always, it will always be an enforcement having blind eye provided these companies pay enough bribes.

That is the reason why people are very worried with religious extremist movements. In Indonesia there are still enough people want Indonesia to Implement Shariah Law. They successfully implements Sahriah Law in one of Indonesian Provinces, The province of "Aceh"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_criminal_law_in_Aceh

They do not stop it there but instead keep moving forward. Acute opportunists politicians will use them as pawns to get their votes. Keep in mind those religious leaders have a lot of people, masses behind them that could be brainwashed or mobilised for mass demonstration to disrupt or to influence the law makers for very tiny amount of money. Many of these people are in the religious boarding schools or villagers coming from surrounding villages, small cities. These people will be happy to get involve in mass demonstration, they could also vote in the general election.

[Goferring]

This link is all in Bahasa and I am only able to understand part of it. In short, my buddy told me that only married couple can register and check into the hotel. If not, one could be subjected to fines. This sound so dumb and it feels almost laughable. The morality party are just some of the dumbest f#ck.

Any ideas from anyone over there and know anything about this? Or is is it probably just nothing to worry?

I didn't read the whole thing but "ancaman hukuman" is threatened legislation, not enacted. It's been a hot topic, on and off, for years now.

Note that there are many areas in Indonesia where unmarried couples really cannot check into hotels, both legally and practically. It's regularly enforced by hoteliers and has even tripped up couples who didn't carry evidence of being married. However, I wouldn't panic This doesn't apply to the regular monger or foreign tourist areas.

Cheers. G.

[Ggekko2009]

My buddy sent me this link and I was wondering what this whole thing mean not just for us but for their whole tourism and hotel industry in general.

https://travel.detik.com/travel-news...-belum-menikah

This link is all in Bahasa and I am only able to understand part of it. In short, my buddy told me that only married couple can register and check into the hotel. If not, one could be subjected to fines. This sound so dumb and it feels almost laughable. The morality party are just some of the dumbest f#ck.

Any ideas from anyone over there and know anything about this? Or is is it probably just nothing to worry? As always, it will always be an enforcement having blind eye provided these companies pay enough bribes.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Thanks for the info.

I'm chatting with an Indo girl on Telegram and she wants to know how much I will pay her (post earlier suggested that Seeking girls are normally looking for 1. 8 - 2 m Rupiah). I don't want to low ball her (would love to give her a good seeing to), but am wondering where I should place my first bid.

Any suggestions?

Always helps to remember that these prices are negotiable and, unless you super-lowball her with your opening bid, she'll be willing to negotiate rather than just cut you off completely.

A couple of months ago I mentioned that most girls would be more than happy to get 3 juta for one night with a foreigner and that a guy could get away with paying a lot less, and got criticized by a few other posters for saying so, but I'll stand by what I said earlier. I'll also refer you to the excellent post by Adindas below, where he reminded us that "the minimum monthly wage in Jakarta is IDR 4,416,186".

If the girl is as hot as you say she is and you're that interested in her, then try offering 1. 8 juta (roughly $115 USD) and see how she responds.

[Offshore Swell]

#boba*.

#bojak*.

What's the hit or miss chances of these hashtag girls profiles. Someone please throw some light on this.

Boba. Booking Bandung.

Bojak. Booking Jakarta.
With apologies to GF, didnt see your reply to this question

[Goferring]

Thanks for the info.

I'm chatting with an Indo girl on Telegram and she wants to know how much I will pay her (post earlier suggested that Seeking girls are normally looking for 1. 8 - 2 m Rupiah). I don't want to low ball her (would love to give her a good seeing to), but am wondering where I should place my first bid.

Any suggestions?

How long is a piece of string? There are so many variables that an accurate price can't be given here.

A Instagram model starts at 2. 5 jt ST. A plain Jane from the kampung (village) would be happy with 600 k all night. A happy medium might be 1-1. 5 jt all night. If she is desperate for cash these can all be significantly lower. If she is blistering hot, a lot more.

No offence but being both a newbie and liking her already, she is going sense this and over charge. You can sweat the last $10 or just go have some fun.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. Jt = juta = million rupiah.

[Goferring]

#boba*.

#bojak*.

What's the hit or miss chances of these hashtag girls profiles. Someone please throw some light on this.

Indonesians often abbreviate or compound words into shorter versions. Your bo-jak is booking-out Jakarta. There are hundreds of different permutations. I did a post a while back explaining twitter phrases.

[Llantarnam]

Two totally plausible options:

Many Indo girls go overseas to work for a contract or two, sign up for a web based messaging app for free calls home while there, then keep the same number after returning. Remember the app number stays the same even across different phones, SIM cards, phone numbers etc.

She has / had a contract wedding with a UAE guy who gave her a phone for contact. Again, very common where the guy will come to Indo, "marry" a girl for a week or two. Any "support" is then halal and not seen as prostitution by the church or state. It's a big business.

Personally, I wouldn't be concerned. Just take the usual precautions around prepayments, money up front etc.

Enjoy. G.

Thanks for the info.

I'm chatting with an Indo girl on Telegram and she wants to know how much I will pay her (post earlier suggested that Seeking girls are normally looking for 1. 8 - 2 m Rupiah). I don't want to low ball her (would love to give her a good seeing to), but am wondering where I should place my first bid.

Any suggestions?

[UltimateBliss]

#boba*.

#bojak*.

What's the hit or miss chances of these hashtag girls profiles. Someone please throw some light on this.

[Goferring]

I've been corresponding with a girl from Jakarta on 'Seeking' and she suggested moving to Telegram to discuss the juicy details. However, the phone number she gave me had a UAE country code (971). I'm not an expert on Telegram, but from a laymans point of view this looks suspicious. Should I be concerned that I'm being set up for a con?

Two totally plausible options:

Many Indo girls go overseas to work for a contract or two, sign up for a web based messaging app for free calls home while there, then keep the same number after returning. Remember the app number stays the same even across different phones, SIM cards, phone numbers etc.

She has / had a contract wedding with a UAE guy who gave her a phone for contact. Again, very common where the guy will come to Indo, "marry" a girl for a week or two. Any "support" is then halal and not seen as prostitution by the church or state. It's a big business.

Personally, I wouldn't be concerned. Just take the usual precautions around prepayments, money up front etc.

Enjoy. G.

[Bkk212]

Hi any update on bars in Blok M is My Bar open for business?

[Llantarnam]

I've been corresponding with a girl from Jakarta on 'Seeking' and she suggested moving to Telegram to discuss the juicy details. However, the phone number she gave me had a UAE country code (971). I'm not an expert on Telegram, but from a laymans point of view this looks suspicious. Should I be concerned that I'm being set up for a con?

[Offshore Swell]

Thanks for the suggestion. Are any 3 to 4-star options also within walking distance?

The mangga besar lockup has a negative 5 star rating. They rate their catches there according to how much they think they can wring out of you to set you free for the misdemeanor they think you are guilty of. KI is a fertile hunting ground for BNN raids.

You have to understand theres a lot of layers to the onion in that complex.

[Adindas]

Had a quick trip to Jakarta this week so decided to visit BATS to see how it was recovering. Went on a Tuesday night. I'd say the place was about a third full, good selection of girls, but I would have placed them primarily in the 30+ age group. Well the ones I remember, I had been out for a few beers with friends before hand. There were some definite lookers and plenty of opportunities.

First girl I spoke to asked for 10 M, burst out laughing, that was an expensive piece of pussy, and when somebody quotes that much I don't even bother trying to knock her down. Chatted with a few other ladies and and then my phone beeped and it was a message from an old acquaintance asking if I was in BATS. A quick look around, and there she was sitting behind me. First picked this lady up over 11 years ago, and used to fly her into KL when I visited there. Anyway, she looked as if she hadn't aged a bit, had an adopted son but no kids born naturally and still looked after herself, so decided to renew an old acquaintance.

A few drinks later it was a very drunken drive in her car back to the hotel for a night and late morning of fun. Handed her a crisp 100 $ bill at the end of it. The same I had always given for her services.

There's definitely fun to be had in BATS, didn't get the chance to visit on Wednesday night, which I am sure is ladies night. They have an expat band, but nowhere near as good as the ones I remember. Wasn't asked to pay an entry fee, which used to be normal with a free drink.

IDR10 m ($650) vs $100 at the same place, well done. 10 mil IDR for many people in Jakarta is more than two months salary. There is no way the vast majority of local people would want to pay that rate.

This is another example how getting well informed do your own desk-work is the best way to avoid getting conned. There are still many people in Jakarta are working on minimum wage, especially those coming from neighbouring small cities, villages. The minimum wage in Jakarta is IDR 4,416,186,

[Shamester]

Manggis Inn.

Thanks for the suggestion. Are any 3 to 4-star options also within walking distance?