Jakarta

[BKKguru]

I didn't have a chance to venture near Classic though it wasn't so far away from where I was heading. Stupid move on my part really. Part of my hesitation was that I didn't want to be the 0. 1% of people taking that stuff and get a heart attack in a place like KI or Kelapa Gading as an expatriate in Indonesia.
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There were several nights like this, and some of them worked out ok. I was pleasantly surprised that I could do 3 BBFSCIP runs within 24 hours, and no pill.

3 BBFSCIP in 24 hours is impressive! Do you take any natural supplements like Honey or Maca? Any Vitamins?

I have been to Kelapa Gading many times. But never tried KI. Do you like any bar in KI?
Based on reports, the rooms in KI are dirty. The Girls in KI is a mixed bag. Is this correct?

Thanks,
~BKKguru.

[BenderOver]

I tried JW last month. Massage price is around 500++ and I tipped the girl 200 for the extra.

Pretty decent massage, the girl was a 7/10 around late 30's I'd say, nice HJ and allowed me to undo her bra and touch. No rush and ok attitude. Wouldn't go again because of the price.

I noticed that the hotels (ranging from decent to mega nice) have a consistent Modus Oparandi. If the Spa has an official location staffed relatively internally (and you usually get loyalty discounts), then you're not getting any extra services.

If the hotel doesn't have a special SPA and is outserviced by a company using modified hotel rooms as their SPA, then you're going to get asked if you want a special massage, also full service is on the table too, but ridiculous pricing. Those third party spas don't offer discounts for loyalty members.

The pricing for the massage is about 350 k for one hour. They'll ask for 500 k for a HJ, but will likely give you a HJ for 300 k. Full is about 1. 2 M, but somehow they'll upcharge you to 1. 5 M especially if you switch from CFS to BBFS. My session, the girl was easily late 20's, face was 8, body was 6 (chubby, could lose 10 to 15 kg), A 6 (she was a mercenary), S 6 (short BBBJ, allowed BBFS for an upcharge, non-rushed), E 350 k+1. 5 M 60 minutes total, RR no, no though she was pretty in the face).

I did it because I wanted to find out if it was available and I ran the numbers compared to USA Pricing. Basically, it was a steal for about $125. But compared to KI and KG, way out of touch expensive.

[BenderOver]

Bought some from the street carts at Mangga Besar last weekend. Opening price for a bottle of 10 Cialis was 300 rb. We settled on 160 rb. Given I only take 1/2 tablet at a time, Rp8,000/ session is not a bad deal.

I didn't have a chance to venture near Classic though it wasn't so far away from where I was heading. Stupid move on my part really. Part of my hesitation was that I didn't want to be the 0. 1% of people taking that stuff and get a heart attack in a place like KI or Kelapa Gading as an expatriate in Indonesia.

I spent most of my time in KI and Kelapa Gading, so as you can imagine, it would have been easy for me to pull over and ask Bluebird to wait for me a few minutes while I negotiate with 99 for some dick hardening medicine.

Why the stupid move on my part? Well, on a few of the nights, I thought I was back in my prime again and tried to bang out three girls back to back. Stupid because the little guy stopped working about 3/4 of the way through the second session. Do I get credit for not quitting?

There were several nights like this, and some of them worked out ok. I was pleasantly surprised that I could do 3 BBFSCIP runs within 24 hours, and no pill.

[GentileBear]

DJTan,

Thank you for the info about SA. I would love to creampie a flight attendant soon. Been to Jakarta only once but had a great time with Tinder and Tan Tan app.

But please advise - $300.00 USD a Day? Good lord! I think you are way over-paying. Hope you recieve this as a respectful comment and not a flame because I appreciate everyone's valuable info.

[DownUnderMonger]

Looking at visiting in the next month or so.

How much of an issue are these fuel protests? Is there a chance these will turn into 1998? (I am of Chinese appearance)

[Dj Tan]

I go to Jakarta for work once or twice a year before pandemic, and about to have another one in 3-wks for almost 2-mo stay.

Seeking Arrangement is my preferred media, I found university students, flight-attendant, office workers, even pros all the time there.

I am courting one right now, she is law student in her 5th semester outside Jakarta, willing to travel on weekend to meet for the entire weekend as long I pay for train tickets. She is open for trip to Bali if classes are online that week.

I like this setup, we've been chatting / calling for 3-wks, not even once she asks for money up front. But, yes she expects money when we meet, she is happy with about $300/ night.

BTW, plenty of girls at Seeking Arrangement are semi-pro / freelancers, the going rate seems to be 2-3 mil for 1-2 hour and 5 mil for overnight stay. The girls are all 8-9 in my book, not sure about services since I haven't partaken in PPM world. I like contract GF more, since I like DATY and BBBJ, as well as the pillow talk afterward.

I chat two flight-attendants on Telegram / Wahtsapp and very tempted to take them out and see how it goes but I feel more connection with this law student. It's like BF / GF, since we chat every day for hours.

Will report back in a month, hope it all works out, I don't want to pay Seeking Arrangement again until my next business trip.

[Kopi Hitam]

In town this week. Where's the 99 guy at? Thanks Hilo and all who was part of this subject thread.

Bought some from the street carts at Mangga Besar last weekend. Opening price for a bottle of 10 Cialis was 300 rb. We settled on 160 rb. Given I only take 1/2 tablet at a time, Rp8,000/ session is not a bad deal.

[Offshore Swell]

My fellow Gentlemen,

I am currently preparing my visit to Jakarta by contacting local women via SM if they are interested to meet. As already mentioned by others, its crazy. I get a lot of welcoming responses and offers.

However what I am quite unfamiliar with is that a lot of women are jumping fast on the marriage and lets have children train.

Is this something I should be generally aware of if I am going to meet ordinary local women?

You seem to have touched upon one of the paradoxes of our craft here. Whilst we are happy to spread our seed far and wide. The other side is generally known to be searching for security, money, babies, happiness, travel and shopping experiences.

Could there be something in your profile that doesn't explain sufficiently what you are hoping to find in Indonesia? Or are you able to satisfy some of these whilst making clear that the babies and marriage might be contingent on a number of other things falling into place.

The truth is, you guys put in all this "thrill of the chase", preliminary work and it all goes out the window when you land because it's always a dynamic situation on the ground. If it keeps you happy go hard but it's mostly all blah blah blah.

OS has a strict policy of "Try before you buy" for any ladies who may wish to procreate with his magnificent genes. You may wish to communicate this a little more clearly to your keyboard liaison's.

Hope that helps.

[Kopi Hitam]

I haven't previously been to Kartika, but there was no other bar opened on that street. Comparing my visit last week with Google Maps street view from January 2021, Royal Mas has indeed replaced Kartika. The current entrance for Royal Mas is on the right with the blue tiles.

https://www.google.com/maps/@-6.1505223, 106.8178556,3 a,37.5 y,86.04 h,85.36 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 s0 UQLGSFJHkHKl2 CehSIW0 A!2 e0!7 i16384!8 i8192.

Hmm, it seems map links are frowned upon.

Type in the following address to Google Maps: Jl. Kb. Jeruk XX No. 10, RT. 10/ RW. 9, Maphar, Kota Jakarta Barat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta.

Pan around to the door to the right of the Kartika Sign. Zoom in. The building has blue wall tiles. This is the new location of Royal Mas.

[Kopi Hitam]

Forgot to mention that in February 2005 I had a good two-girl session at Kartika, one of the 2 girls was Sonia a 30-ish Chinese girl with red hair, memorable both because she spoke good English and because very few Chiese girls worked at any of these spas. I had several other two-girl sessions with Sonia through 2007 but finally stopped choosing her because her service level had dropped noticeably (she was letting the other girl do 90% of the work). Walked into Kartika in 2018 for the first time in years and she immediately walked up to me and said "Hi Mr. MS" with a smile. Not sure if it's good or bad that (a) she remembered me and (b) she was still working there 13 years after I had first met her.

On the other hand, it should be interesting to see Stadium re-open under a new name.

I haven't previously been to Kartika, but there was no other bar opened on that street. Comparing my visit last week with Google Maps street view from January 2021, Royal Mas has indeed replaced Kartika. The current entrance for Royal Mas is on the right with the blue tiles.

https://www.google.com/maps/@-6.1505223, 106.8178556,3 a,37.5 y,86.04 h,85.36 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 s0 UQLGSFJHkHKl2 CehSIW0 A!2 e0!7 i16384!8 i8192.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Last night was a visit to the narrow streets off Jl. Hayam Waruk. These are the narrow roads east side of the Mangga Besar Busway bridge. Let's call them then Jl. Kebon Jeruk series. It had been about 10 years since the last visit, so curiosity struck and mild exploration was overdue.

The first visit was the street with the old Stadium. I was seeking a dive bar for a drink and asked around, but to no avail. This was around 9 pm and it seemed pretty quiet, aside from the usual shady characters hanging outside.

Heading north, the next street running parallel resembled Stalingrad circa. 1943. Not much doing apart from some very base massage options. Upon an invite from a mamasan into the kost behind her, I queried about places to get a drink. She said there were none on that road, but a bar on the next parallel street running north. So off I went.

Entering this next street with the Suisse Bakery landmark, options were pretty limited. As other posters have mentioned, Berlian is no longer. The only option was Royal Mas at the end of the culdesac. I popped in there for a beer. Level 1 is set up similar to the KI bars. But it's not quite as loud as Karaoke is the music option rather than blaring happy house Chinese. There were about 10-15 women that were all far left of the bell curve.

Content to settle with a beer, I got chatting with the bartender. Royal Mas opened up there 2 months ago, having moved from its original location. There are 3 levels. Level 1 is a bar (with overpriced beer), Level 2 are the rooms (350 rb total) for a 1-hour full-service massage. Level 3 is a lounge. Interestingly, we got chatting about Stadium. Apparently, the original owners have just been issued with a new permit to re-open Stadium at the same site. Although under a different name.

After a beer, I left Royal Mas feeling underwhelmed. Returning to the street one row south I revisited the mamasan from earlier. Curiosity got the better of me. Prices were negotiable and she started at a hefty 500 rb. We agreed on 300 rb. It was a bit more than I thought was standard, but felt close enough. I was later told the mamasan clips the ticket at 70 rb for each session. The remainder goes to the girl.

There are 4 kosts inside. These are also where the women live and they pay their own rent of 2. 1 juta per month. As such, the rooms are very homely. The one I used had family photos hanging on the wall and I interrupted her watching Sinetron. The room was pristine. The lady not so much. However, she was friendly and it felt just like hanging out at someone's place. No English was spoken here, so some Indonesian helps.

Thanks for the report. I have many good memories of Royal Mas at their old location, most recently in 2018 when I had a great session with a slender 21-year-old named "Riska" who had just started working there. Zero massage skills but a great kisser and a nice GFE experience, I liked her so much that I came back for a return visit a few days later.

It's unclear from your report. Did Royal Mas move into the location where Kartika was? Kartika was my #1 spot in Jakarta between 2004-2018 and it will be missed by many if it indeed has closed down for good. A two-girl FS nuru session at Kartika was always on the top of my list every time I visited Jakarta.

Forgot to mention that in February 2005 I had a good two-girl session at Kartika, one of the 2 girls was Sonia a 30-ish Chinese girl with red hair, memorable both because she spoke good English and because very few Chiese girls worked at any of these spas. I had several other two-girl sessions with Sonia through 2007 but finally stopped choosing her because her service level had dropped noticeably (she was letting the other girl do 90% of the work). Walked into Kartika in 2018 for the first time in years and she immediately walked up to me and said "Hi Mr. MS" with a smile. Not sure if it's good or bad that (a) she remembered me and (b) she was still working there 13 years after I had first met her.

On the other hand, it should be interesting to see Stadium re-open under a new name.

[TakeThis]

My fellow Gentlemen,

I am currently preparing my visit to Jakarta by contacting local women via SM if they are interested to meet. As already mentioned by others, its crazy. I get a lot of welcoming responses and offers.

However what I am quite unfamiliar with is that a lot of women are jumping fast on the marriage and lets have children train.

Is this something I should be generally aware of if I am going to meet ordinary local women?

[Kopi Hitam]

Last night was a visit to the narrow streets off Jl. Hayam Waruk. These are the narrow roads east side of the Mangga Besar Busway bridge. Let's call them then Jl. Kebon Jeruk series. It had been about 10 years since the last visit, so curiosity struck and mild exploration was overdue.

The first visit was the street with the old Stadium. I was seeking a dive bar for a drink and asked around, but to no avail. This was around 9 pm and it seemed pretty quiet, aside from the usual shady characters hanging outside.

Heading north, the next street running parallel resembled Stalingrad circa. 1943. Not much doing apart from some very base massage options. Upon an invite from a mamasan into the kost behind her, I queried about places to get a drink. She said there were none on that road, but a bar on the next parallel street running north. So off I went.

Entering this next street with the Suisse Bakery landmark, options were pretty limited. As other posters have mentioned, Berlian is no longer. The only option was Royal Mas at the end of the culdesac. I popped in there for a beer. Level 1 is set up similar to the KI bars. But it's not quite as loud as Karaoke is the music option rather than blaring happy house Chinese. There were about 10-15 women that were all far left of the bell curve.

Content to settle with a beer, I got chatting with the bar tender. Royal Mas opened up there 2 months ago, having moved from its original location. There's 3 levels. Level 1 is a bar (with overpriced beer), Level 2 are the rooms (350 rb total) for a 1 hour full service massage. Level 3 is a lounge. Interestingly, we got chatting about Stadium. Apparently the original owners have just been issued with a new permit to re-open Stadium at the same site. Although under a different name.

After a beer, I left Royal Mas feeling underwhelmed. Returning to the street one row south I revisited the mamasan from earlier. Curiosity got the better of me. Prices were negotiable and she started at a hefty 500 rb. We agreed on 300 rb. It was a bit more than I thought was standard, but felt close enough. I was later told the mamasan clips the ticket at 70 rb for each session. The remainder goes to the girl.

There are 4 kosts inside. These are also where the women live and they pay their own rent of 2. 1 jt per month. As such, the rooms are very homely. The one I used had family photos hanging on the wall and I interrupted her watching Sinetron. The room was pristine. The lady not so much. However, she was friendly and it felt just like hanging out at someone's place. No English was spoken here, so some Indonesian helps.

[BKKguru]

If I remember correctly, the spa in Mal Ambassador is named Jaspa. While the entrance is on street level, you have to take an elevator up a few floors to the actual spa, which is spread out over two floors. The lower floor has saunas, showers, and lockers while the upper floor has the actual massage rooms.

Google Maps shows the 'Jaspa Family Health Spa' is permanently closed. Hope someone visiting Mal Ambassador can confirm.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Oakwood is a very expensive place to live in Jakarta. On a monthly agreement, it still worked out to 3 M per day. But the inside is probably the most comfortable interiors like a New York Central Park apartment, though smaller.

I saw that massage place at Mal Ambassador while shopping for a SIM card and some DVD movies for 10 k IDR each. I didn't go in because it didn't look like it was in a seedy enough environment. Usually, I'd trust getting some good action in a massage parlor in Blok M, KI, or Kelapa Gading. This place is in the middle of the electronic swap meet center, the whole five levels. So the curb appeal didn't get me to go there and try if the girls did any stick shifting or better. Though at times, I wanted to go there to see if the massage was legit and any good.

Yes, Oakwood is nice. Another, less-expensive place in that area to recommend is Somerset Apartments, an older building but "well-appointed" as the Brits would say. Your room includes free breakfast on the penthouse floor at the top of the north tower, great view while you eat.

If I remember correctly, the spa in Mal Ambassador is named Jaspa. While the entrance is on street level, you have to take an elevator up a few floors to the actual spa, which is spread out over two floors. The lower floor has saunas, showers, and lockers while the upper floor has the actual massage rooms. There are definitely extras available depending on the girl, I had several great sessions over a few-year period with an attractive late-20's, relatively tall girl named "Poppy" although she no longer works there. My single best session was with a much younger Javanese girl from Indramayu, around 20 years old, tiny 95-100 pounds at most but with the firmest, most solid (but real) tits I've ever found on any adult female.

So yes, I'd recommend this place.