Jakarta

[Smoothy]

Knight 1001:

I was very generous and gave her 600,000 + 50,000 for the staff.

Woodman

In the Hyatt, I don't think you could have gotten away with giving her much less than that.

[Wanderinawe]

I sympathize with Dorman because of this experience with the Malioboro because as a commercial establishment it should not discriminate between customers. I have had similar experience with the Alexis when the Mamasan told me that a girl I has asked for didn't want to go with me because she didn't want to service a 'bule'. Fortunately, not being a bule I was able to tell the mamasan that she had got it wrong and that I had already had a session with the girl earlier. The misunderstanding removed, I was able to enjoy the services of the girl.

Probably, JAD may be better able to explain the matter why the Malioboro management discriminated against Dorman. However, as a non-Caucasian I would like to present the other view, particularly because there is a hint of 'bule' arrogance in Dorman's statement that 'I had more than enough cash to enjoy an evening that some of the local clientèle could only dream of' which implies that the colour of his money (and his skin) was better than that of the local customers. I think, bro Dorman should also realize that the colour of his skin is a great passport in Indonesia where 'kulit putih' is in great demand because, in my experience, most Indonesians suffer from a colonial hangover and venerate the white man, though God alone knows why because from all reports they suffered quite horribly under the Dutch.

In fact, I have also suffered the opposite discrimination here because while I can pass off as a Caucasian because of my skin colour, I frankly tell people my nationality up front because I see no reason to masquerade and dissemble. As a result I have been often turned down but have shrugged it away because I feel that a woman even a commercial sex worker has the freedom and the right to turn away a customer for whatever reason- may be she is afraid of the size of his prick (the mythical bule endowment that is legendary here just like the mythical size of a black man's prick in the US) or his smell or whatever.

I would, therefore, advise bro Dorman to take it philosophically because he should realize that it is more often an advantage for a mongerer to be a 'bule' in Indonesia than a disadvantage and he should count his blessings in this regard rather than boasting on the size of his wallet. In passing, I should point out that in my experience the Indonesians who frequent the up-market spas could buy me and even most other mongerers several times over seeing the cars that they come in and the money that they spend like water. Let me conclude by clarifying that this is not to flame anyone nor is it directed at any ethnic group but an attempt to put the matter in perspective.

Well-spoken.

[Woodman]

How much did she cost you and was she happy with it?

Cheers

Knight 1001:

I was very generous and gave her 600,000 + 50,000 for the staff.

Woodman

[Oyenk]

another hotel travel report

oh. like other previous monger, donot use the massge service in this place. they are not very well trained to do traditional stuff. almost ruin my back when i went there the other time. you know that sort of place where they just kill time hurting you until the fj negotiation. i would go to tropical spa if for massage.

cheers

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for real massage i recommend delta group. they are still the best place for massage, "even at the end only hand service"...

but for massage plus2x; i suggest you to choose the place which you can only tip the therapist 200,000-300,000 rupiahs / please do not overpay more than this amount...

remember i ever posted that girl's share in travel bordell only 80,000-90,000 rupiahs (for an hour)...and you give to therapist for 300,000 rupiahs /minimal ? (for tip fj)

* i ever tried no 18 in puri sehat and her name was yanti, she asked tip for fj 300,000 rupiahs that moment and i ignored what she begged...just hj for 50,000 rupiahs and ok for me that time. btw she isn't the bearer of that number anymore...

cheers...

[Memekman]

First of all I'd like to thank JAD for his helpful translation of my mysterious sms message, it pretty much confirms what I thought.

Hopefully, if I'm not asking too much, he might also help explain a decidedly irritating experience I had in the Malioboro Spa this evening.

It was 10pm and I was watching the go-go dancers do their stuff, nothing special but when one of them approached me I gave her tits the customary rub and nodded for the usual recompense (50,000 per squeeze), I was a bit disconcerted when this was translated into three shots but I'm a big boy and got over it and went on to check out the "local" section in the wine bar (not being particularly enthused by over-priced Ukrainians in the main bar).

Anyway I took my seat and a Mama dutifully arrived, she explained that the girls celebrating a birthday by knocking back a bottle of Johnny Walker in the adjacent booth were her girls. No problem, she insisted that number *** was the best girl, but I didn't fancy her, were there any others? Yes of course but he kept coming back to the same girl, meanwhile I noticed other clients were getting the full "line 'em up and let the punters see the goodies" treatment. At this point I got a little bit irritated and asked Mama why my selection was being so limited.

She said that some of the girls didn't like bules, now remember this is a club that provides Ukrainian and Russian not to mention Thai and Chinese girls on tap. I remained calm and asked whether it was only bules the girls didn't like, no she replied they don't like Arabs either! I remarked that this was a bit out of order, she sighed and agreed and said it was the boss's fault; "they don't punish the girls enough"! As you can imagine I was getting a little annoyed at this point and a male "papasan" arrived and called on his retinue, but it was quite obvious that he was offering me the second eleven and the quality girls were being reserved for the other customers.

Well I am usually an easygoing chap, I accept I'm a foreigner in this town and the same privileges don't apply to me but I have to say this bugged me a bit, I had more than enough cash to enjoy an evening that some of the local clientèle could only dream of but I was getting distinctly second class treatment so I did something I've never done before; I complained. As I was paying I mentioned to the cashier that I was unhappy about the discriminatory practices, a young lad, the boss I presume, heard me and asked for details, he called the male "papasan" and whilst my BI might not be perfect I could clearly hear that he confirmed my story. Anyway the upshot was that I said I wasn't happy, the boss didn't seem terribly concerned, I said I would mention it on the internet, he still didn't seem bothered, so I paid my bill and being a man of my word I'm posting this up.

If Malioboro think I misunderstood their position, they have the perfect forum to contradict me.

I sympathize with Dorman because of this experience with the Malioboro because as a commercial establishment it should not discriminate between customers. I have had similar experience with the Alexis when the Mamasan told me that a girl I has asked for didn't want to go with me because she didn't want to service a 'bule'. Fortunately, not being a bule I was able to tell the mamasan that she had got it wrong and that I had already had a session with the girl earlier. The misunderstanding removed, I was able to enjoy the services of the girl.

Probably, JAD may be better able to explain the matter why the Malioboro management discriminated against Dorman. However, as a non-Caucasian I would like to present the other view, particularly because there is a hint of 'bule' arrogance in Dorman's statement that 'I had more than enough cash to enjoy an evening that some of the local clientèle could only dream of' which implies that the colour of his money (and his skin) was better than that of the local customers. I think, bro Dorman should also realize that the colour of his skin is a great passport in Indonesia where 'kulit putih' is in great demand because, in my experience, most Indonesians suffer from a colonial hangover and venerate the white man, though God alone knows why because from all reports they suffered quite horribly under the Dutch.

In fact, I have also suffered the opposite discrimination here because while I can pass off as a Caucasian because of my skin colour, I frankly tell people my nationality up front because I see no reason to masquerade and dissemble. As a result I have been often turned down but have shrugged it away because I feel that a woman even a commercial sex worker has the freedom and the right to turn away a customer for whatever reason- may be she is afraid of the size of his prick (the mythical bule endowment that is legendary here just like the mythical size of a black man's prick in the US) or his smell or whatever.

I would, therefore, advise bro Dorman to take it philosophically because he should realize that it is more often an advantage for a mongerer to be a 'bule' in Indonesia than a disadvantage and he should count his blessings in this regard rather than boasting on the size of his wallet. In passing, I should point out that in my experience the Indonesians who frequent the up-market spas could buy me and even most other mongerers several times over seeing the cars that they come in and the money that they spend like water. Let me conclude by clarifying that this is not to flame anyone nor is it directed at any ethnic group but an attempt to put the matter in perspective.

[Menteng]

I'm curious. If cW and Cw are both abbreviations for cewek, what is the abbreviation for cowok?

It used to be "ce" resp. "co". I don't understand why it has changed.

Smoothy, now you mention it: Dorman are you sure, that the sms is not about a cowok? To think that I've shared several beers with you at D's and now someone asks you, not to call her/his cowok anymore!

Ja, ja, ja (that's Colombian for ha, ha, ha)


My phone? Not worth it brother. Only Colombian numbers now and messages from angry husbands How could I know those women I comforted are married? I only speak Indonesian and body language, no Spanish

[Dorman]

Thanks for the translations gentlemen, I think the "mEt pG. . .sBIMny" was the confusing bit, perfectly obvious now when I see it written properly, honestly sometimes you feel like an Ultra code breaker in Beltchley Park when you try to work out these texts and why do they insist on the upper case/lower case letters? And as for the ones who can't spell! Oh dear I think I'm starting to show my age now. I also see that 'Abang' of course refers to me not the sender, schoolboy stuff really, I have to say he's remarkably polite given the circumstances don't you think?

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to stick to the other 1131 contacts or better yet steal Menteng's handphone, now that would make for interesting reading.

[Smoothy]

"Selamat pagi Abang! Sebelumnya saya mau minta maaf, jangan cari-cari cewek yang pakai nomor 0815******. Itu cewek saya. Terimakasih Abang!"

I'm curious. If cW and Cw are both abbreviations for cewek, what is the abbreviation for cowok?

[Menteng]

"mEt pG Abng sBIMny sY mAu minta mAaf,jN6n cArI2 Cw y6 pAke No 0815****** Itu cW sY.trimA kSh Abng"

The translation is not for Dorman who speaks Indonesian fluently, but for those who don't.

"Good morning, bro. Begging your pardon in advance, but please don't contact the girl whose phonenumber is 0815*******. She's my girl! Thank you, bro."

Dorman, maybe that's an sms from a girl who doesn't want to share your affections with another! A nice way to eliminate competition!
But, she must know better. She should have mentioned those other 1132 phonenumbers that you may not contact

[Traveler1234]

How much did she cost you and was she happy with it?

Cheers

When are you returning my friend?

[Dorman]

First of all I'd like to thank JAD for his helpful translation of my mysterious sms message, it pretty much confirms what I thought.

Hopefully, if I'm not asking too much, he might also help explain a decidedly irritating experience I had in the Malioboro Spa this evening.

It was 10pm and I was watching the go-go dancers do their stuff, nothing special but when one of them approached me I gave her tits the customary rub and nodded for the usual recompense (50,000 per squeeze), I was a bit disconcerted when this was translated into three shots but I'm a big boy and got over it and went on to check out the "local" section in the wine bar (not being particularly enthused by over-priced Ukrainians in the main bar).

Anyway I took my seat and a Mama dutifully arrived, she explained that the girls celebrating a birthday by knocking back a bottle of Johnny Walker in the adjacent booth were her girls. No problem, she insisted that number *** was the best girl, but I didn't fancy her, were there any others? Yes of course but he kept coming back to the same girl, meanwhile I noticed other clients were getting the full "line 'em up and let the punters see the goodies" treatment. At this point I got a little bit irritated and asked Mama why my selection was being so limited.

She said that some of the girls didn't like bules, now remember this is a club that provides Ukrainian and Russian not to mention Thai and Chinese girls on tap. I remained calm and asked whether it was only bules the girls didn't like, no she replied they don't like Arabs either! I remarked that this was a bit out of order, she sighed and agreed and said it was the boss's fault; "they don't punish the girls enough"! As you can imagine I was getting a little annoyed at this point and a male "papasan" arrived and called on his retinue, but it was quite obvious that he was offering me the second eleven and the quality girls were being reserved for the other customers.

Well I am usually an easygoing chap, I accept I'm a foreigner in this town and the same privileges don't apply to me but I have to say this bugged me a bit, I had more than enough cash to enjoy an evening that some of the local clientèle could only dream of but I was getting distinctly second class treatment so I did something I've never done before; I complained. As I was paying I mentioned to the cashier that I was unhappy about the discriminatory practices, a young lad, the boss I presume, heard me and asked for details, he called the male "papasan" and whilst my BI might not be perfect I could clearly hear that he confirmed my story. Anyway the upshot was that I said I wasn't happy, the boss didn't seem terribly concerned, I said I would mention it on the internet, he still didn't seem bothered, so I paid my bill and being a man of my word I'm posting this up.

If Malioboro think I misunderstood their position, they have the perfect forum to contradict me.

[Barson]

Another hotel travel report

This time it was little Malak 19yos from Bogor

I went into the deep end of the joint where the floor is elevated a little from the main floor.

Nice face with beautiful eyes. Small little body but very sexily.

She was very comforting and allow for fingering both holes but while we were on doggie, tried to enter from behind and she cried out of pain so stop. Suppose if well prepare with lube, she would likely allow it since got her all wet.

FJ was very good with her very tight pussy. This girl gave very good attention on BBBJ kept going down for more. I even sttod up on the bed to give her all access and boy that felt pretty good having little thing wondering down there when you were standing up.

There you go my short report. So far travel kept delivering the goods At 285k a pop and its upper standard. Will keep coming back.

Oh. Like other previous monger, donot use the massge service in this place. They are not very well trained to do traditional stuff. Almost ruin my back when I went there the other time. You know that sort of place where they just kill time hurting you until the FJ negotiation. I would go to tropical SPA if for massage.

Cheers

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[Knight 1001]

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Here is the information on Luki:
Body: 7-8
Attitude: 8
Performance: 8
Age: 25-28
Tits 34C, ALL Natural

Thought this would good information to share with other members of ISG.

WOODMAN

How much did she cost you and was she happy with it?

Cheers

[Jkt After Dark 2]

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[Woodman]

I put this under the Jakarta Hotels section, but the information is important for all to know.

I just spent three very quick days in Jakarta and as usual I stayed at the Hyatt. From reading all the posts, I got the definite message on the forum that the Hyatt really isn't GF - I am here to report just the opposite.

My first night in Jakarta I was pretty beat to the long trip from the States. I decided to visit BATS just to see what was going on. I arrived there about 8:30 and other than two other guys, myself, and the bar staff - we were the only people there. Around 10 - 10:30 a few girls started to trickle in. A couple of the girls really were stunners, but my jet lag got the best of me and I called it a night.

The next night I was tied up with business associates until after midnight, and again decided that even though the mind was willing, the body told me to hit the bed - alone.

On my final night in Jakarta, again I was out with clients and returned to the hotel relatively early. My intension was to return to BATS, but decided to check out the bar in the Hyatt called Burgundy. As I entered there were probably 6-8 WG’s strategically located around the bar. There were probably 3-4 guys in the bar and another 10-12 couples. On average I would rate the girls between 6-9 on the 10 scale. I ordered my drink and soon enough one came by, then another. As I took out a cigarette to light it, a girl named “Luki” (spelling probably isn’t correct), approached me and offered me a light. Of course I accepted, and she sat down with me. After about 30 minutes of conversation and a drink, I asked if she would like to see my room. Of course was her answer. I asked what the ST rate would be and she responded that it was up to me – if I was really happy. I said that I have been to Jakarta before and was well aware of the going rates. She responded that would be OK. We retired to my room. For those who are familiar with the Hyatt, Burgundy is located on the 4th Floor – one floor above the Lobby Floor, so you avoid all the normal staff that are hanging around that might make some a bit uncomfortable going to the elevators with a girl.

Once in my room, we sat and talked for about another 20-30 minutes. Then things started to heat up with kissing, and some pretty heavy caressing. From there she suggested we go to the shower where she was very skillful in the parts of both of our bodies she washed and the “attention to detail” on my body. VERY good BBBJ! We moved from the bath to the bed after about 20 minutes in the shower. She was very GFE, and seemed to enjoy what she was doing. We hit all the major positions and she was open to just about everything except DATY. I later found out that she was just finishing her period, and that was the reason.

After we finished round one, we were again having a conversation and she shared with me some very important information. The Hyatt has a new manager, and he has arranged (according to Luki) a few very nice girls to be in the bar for his guests. She said she co-operates with the bar staff, and she only works on Saturday and Tuesday. During the day she sells insurance, and used her income from the Hyatt to supplement her family.

Here is the information on Luki:
Body: 7-8
Attitude: 8
Performance: 8
Age: 25-28
Tits 34C, ALL Natural

Thought this would good information to share with other members of ISG.

WOODMAN