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  1. #536
    Quote Originally Posted by Sausage King  [View Original Post]
    Have fun! Let us know how it went.

    Ps the language section I posted seems to have been auto corrected by the forum. It says 'see' and 'you' instead of the letters of the alphabet that sound the same. So, 'cewek' (girl) is pronounced "che-wek" etc
    I'll will call you 'cahaya' as you showed me the light in Surabaya.

    Lets start from the first day I landed in Surabaya. After I checked in at 'Ibis', at 10. 30 pm I just could not stay in my room any more so I moved out and got a taxi to Plaza Tunjungua, I reach there and get off the taxi and go to the sixth floor but no Disc in sight, I ask around and get stares as I know zero bahasa. Disappointed I come down and take a taxi and ask him to go to 'Ibis', on way I ask him where is 'Coyote', he says in sixth floor car park. I stay take me there, he says I can take you to 'Penthouse', I say yes and he takes me to that place. Its a Tuesday, not much crowd and the fishbowl has really yummy girls. The mami is fluent in ingris and she say to me 200USD till you go back home but not for doing anythng. I see the KTV stuff and decide too expensive and I'm getting ripped off here. I do not like karaoke anyways.

    I go out take taxi and tell him 'Coyote' the bugger takes me and deposits me at 'Playmate', I say what heck and enter it. I ask the guy disc, he say down stairs and a young mami Annie takes me down. I see not much dancers. In 30 min scene hots up. Annie sets me up with Jasmine a little minx and now I'm down USD 100, thinking thru my dick you see.

    But in the room she takes to the loo, and we start off. But I'll tell you she ate me up, one hour constant. She won't let me go till I came twice and there was no more in me. Except anal everythng. I go back to hotel spent and lighter by 150 USD.

    Next day Thursday, I go straight to Shangrila, as predicted put off by seeing fat chicks and dated ones. Still I hang around and see a okayish chick, I say hi to her and after some 15 min she says she can come to room for 1 juta. I agree and go back to hotel. She was a good lay and after three times back to back in various positions she says better if I sleep alone as I very horny. I say yes and she says she will go, I see its 4 am but still she showers and goes off with 50K as taxi money and 1 million.

    On Friday with high hopes I got to 'Colours' but the stupid band plays love ballads and very few chicks around at 12pm, only good chicks with frnds and newly married couples. I hang up and head towards Shangrila again. I hit it only to see a very better picture with old hags, a stupid band but also sprinkling of nice chicks. I was going in for a tall blond dyed chick when I notice this tall chick very thin with long black hair and very fair busy with BBM. I stand next to her but a Bule comes and speaks to her and they say somethng. I say hi and ask her name. I get it. After sometime we have a beer and I ask her if she come to my hotel. She says yes after hearng its Ibis. No discussion about money, she ask me wht time I go to work I say 8am and she says tomorw holiday for her. We take taxi back to hotel and she comes in.

    After sometime sitting around she gets inside the toilet wraps a towel around her ask for a toothbrush and uses mine.

    She asks me to take shower I do come out and sit on bed she beckons me and I get in the shheets and smooching starts. She makes me feel like a GFE.

    After couple of times we sleep and then I get horny in morning, I turn to her she says shower first she goes and them and then we make love. At 10 am, after lot of cuddling and all exchanging numbers. She says where is my money, I give 1 million but I do not say it, she just takes it no counting. Her friend comes in a cars and off they go.

    I go back to Jakarta and fly back to Inndia. Still in touch, have no idea wht to do with this last girl. I need to come to Surabaya for work again soon.

  2. #535
    Quote Originally Posted by BongKol  [View Original Post]
    Its best guide I ever got. InSurabaya for the second time. HHad hit playmate & Penthouse. Just too expensive

    Picked up a girl from Shangrila. It was ok, experience. But its too far from my place Ibis
    Have fun! Let us know how it went.

    Ps the language section I posted seems to have been auto corrected by the forum. It says 'see' and 'you' instead of the letters of the alphabet that sound the same. So, 'cewek' (girl) is pronounced "che-wek" etc

  3. #534
    Quote Originally Posted by Sausage King  [View Original Post]
    Hey Mongers.

    I been livin here in Surabaya for a good few years now, so here's some up to date info:

    1) Dolly.

    Rumor has it in the press that it will be shutdown soon, and that it has less girls than before, but I haven't really noticed any sign of that happening. Maybe there are less girls, but there are still lots...
    Its best guide I ever got. InSurabaya for the second time. HHad hit playmate & Penthouse. Just too expensive

    Picked up a girl from Shangrila. It was ok, experience. But its too far from my place Ibis

  4. #533

    Comprehensive Lowdown

    hey mongers.

    i been livin here in surabaya for a good few years now, so here's some up to date info:

    1) dolly.

    rumor has it in the press that it will be shutdown soon, and that it has less girls than before, but i haven't really noticed any sign of that happening. maybe there are less girls, but there are still lots. it may happen though, there was another red light area called dupak bangusari, less famous, that was shut down a couple of months ago and apparently they are trying to shut down each red light area one by one. as for dolly, it's hit and miss. it depends on the time you go, and your luck (have all the beauties been taken already, in which case, grab a beer and sit in one of the larger establishments for half hour and see if the talent is any different). there is a place called barbara about half way down the street which usually has a large selection behind a window that charges 200krp (about 20 bucks) , then there is barbara 2 where they asked me for 400,. i politely declined. i have been to the first barbara 3 times (i think that's the name, it might be barbarella or something. big green lights) , one time was possibly the best monger experience i ever had. it was with a tiny lady probably about 25 who without any encouragement kissed me passionately throughout, which is not the norm in dolly. she let me do everything to her apart from anal, i went down on her, lots of positions etc, and used pretty much the full hour. however, the other two times it has been mechanical and a bit unsatisfying. one girl kept squealing "finish" every time i slowed down after only a minute or two inside her. the rest of the places on this street are cheaper. generally speaking the prices range from between 100krp and 160krp, and in my ten or fifteen times in dolly the range of experiences i have had are the same in the cheaper places as the more expensive ones. the trick is, don't be in a hurry, be firm but polite in refusing the guys hassling you and have a good look around. if you take the first one you like without talking to the guy first about what you want, you'll probably end up with a girl who takes you into her room, gets completely naked instantly (i hate that) and expects you to finish in 5 minutes. because i have learned the ropes a bit here, and i can speak indonesian, i have recently had some awesome experiences, but no anal here it seems, and you sometimes do have to search hard to find a diamond in the rough. my advice is to specify to the pimp that you want to touch them all over (if you do of course) , and that your dick will be sucked, it may be bareback or it may not be, but make sure you use a condom when you actually fuck them. be careful, because some of them won't mention it and when your weiner is ready for action, if you've forgotten to bring one it's going to be hard to resist, and if you take risks like that you're asking for trouble. they usually have condoms there for an extra 10k though, whereas you can get a box of 12 "sutra" in the shop for around the same price. also specify you want a full hour. you can buy viagra from street vendors, but i've never had the need to try it so i can't guarantee you that it is the real deal. be warned, my positive experiences here may be in part due to the fact that i am quite a handsome young man with a bit of charm, i can't guarantee you that following my advice will give you similar results if you are an overweight 50 something. also, very important, insist on paying at the end. a few places will try and get you to pay up front, i did get burned once. trust me they all want your business, if u-turn and start to walk away after they have demanded money up front more than once they will soon change their mind. also, if you make a point of looking in each window and spending a full half hour choosing, some of them will quote you an even lower price when you return to their place later, maybe 150k comes down to 120k. some of the girls sadly won't do a bule (white guy) then i give the girls a larger tip, because let's face it, their lives suck. at the bottom of this post i will give you some language tips which should help.

    2) moroseneng.

    this is a place about 10-15km west of the centre of town which is basically the same as dolly, price, nature of venues etc but more spread out over two or three streets, called gang sememi 1 2 and 3. or maybe it is gang seneni. i however haven't used this place, i just went to check it out and was disappointed by the quality of girls and it is so far away from where i live that i didn't bother to take a second look, i just went back to dolly every time after that. but i was also disappointed the first time i went to dolly, then ended up having some very good times there. take a road called jalan raya tandes, follow it west for ages, the name of the road will change two or three times before it becomes jalan moroseneng. eventually you will reach a place that has a tiny bit of development about it unlike the endless shacks before it. you will see a large glitzy dangdut (the local music style) karaoke style venue on the right with neon lights. that's basically where the entrances to gang sememi 1 2 and 3 are, also on your right. moroseneng is difficult to pronounce properly so write it down and show it to a taxi driver.

    3) spas / massage.

    the general deal here is you pay around 250-300k and you get a whole day in a spa with sauna, steam room, hot and cold pool, jacuzzi, lounge, all you can eat buffet and a massage with a handjob to finish. amazing value. great places to spend all day hungover and with some truly stunning chicks. however, not all of them will do extras, and some will try to charge a fortune for it. if you go regularly, you should find girls who will let you fuck them for 500k, and they will be worth it in terms of their looks alone. two out of the five times i've been to these places i've been jerked off by some of the hottest girls i've ever seen. when you sit in the lounge you will be approached by the woman or mamasan (not as scary and crazy as a typical mamasan) , you can always inquire about full service just in case they won't give it. one girl was so hot and i was a little disappointed that she wouldn't do anything but the hand job, and she wanted 500k just to get her top off and let me fondle her tits. but she wasn't rude. i think she just decided that she doesn't want any random guy to fuck her and she earns enough without so who can blame her. although disappointed, i just had a look at myself (and at her again) and thought, fuck it, this is one of the most beautiful girls i ever saw and she's jerkin me off and for the spa alone it would cost me double or more back in the states and that's without a happy ending. anyway, there are loads of these places, but i have only been to two, one is called glamour which in near tunjungan plaza on jalan tunjungan, and the other is called atmosphere, at ruko golden palace, jalan h. r. muhammed. there are two others that are supposed to be very good near glamour, one called symphony and one called cosmo. and then there are loads more so i've heard. but those 4 should keep you busy for ages anyway. you will be given a menu when you go in. it doesn't mention sexual services on the menu of course, but if you pay a bit more you can get a room with a jacuzzi, or a room with two therapists, or a bit longer in the room. some places you can have two girls for 2 hours with jacuzzi and karaoke for about 700k, which i should include hand jobs, but bear in mind prices for extra services will vary depending on the girl.

    4) freelancers.

    there are a few places to go clubbing and meet girls, but prices will vary depending on how desperate the girl is, how late it is and whether or not she thinks she might not get another chance for another customer who'll pay more, but you're looking at anywhere between 300k and 1mil. as they are freelancers i can't give you any more info than that. some might fancy you and stay all night, some might not even want money if they think they might get a husband out of it. if you live here you can normally start a little relationship with two or three of these girls at once if you are clever, but most won't fuck on the first night, you'll have to take them to a fucking mall or some bullshit a couple of times first. but if you are just visiting they'll probably want cash, in which case i personally wouldn't bother as, unlike everything else in surabaya, nightclubs are fucking expensive. 250ml of beer is between 5 and 10 bucks, most places charge a similar price to get in, and a bottle of spirits will cost you close to a million. if you are still determined to throw your money away, try desperados (full of old white guys with lots of money and young chicks on their arm) in the basement of the shangri la hotel on jalan mayjend sungkono or colors nightclub on jalan sumatera. also coyote club in tunjungan plaza (entrance on floor 7 or 8 i think in the car park) sometimes has dancers and insanely hot little minxes in very little clothing trying to get you to buy lady drinks, but this place is reeeeeaaally expensive. they have karaoke fishbowl things upstairs too, but i normally have too many girls in my inbox who are free of charge to tempt me into throwing half my salary away in a place like this. if you have the money though, like about 3 million for one night, you can probably buy a bottle of whisky and a girl to take to your hotel, but don't count on it as i'm not sure how it all works.

    5) lower end massage places and dangdut bars.

    dangdut bars are rep001tered all over the city. dangdut is the name of the traditional indo music. they usually have fishbowls where you can pay for a lady's company for 40k an hour, but you have to pay for a minimum of 6 hours. i've never bothered as that doesn't include any extra services. you probably can buy these girls for the night, but for half the initial charge you can have two girls in dolly so why bother? some of these bars however have sexy dancers, take a load of small bills (1000s and 2000s) with you and you'll get a girl in underwear grinding on you and sticking her tits in your face, you can get a handful of her ass and stick the bills in her panties. beer in these places is usually only 30k for a big bottle, like 660ml. i have yet to try the other massage places but you will find them in darmo park, just off jalan mayjend sungkon near the shangri la. ask a taxi driver or just get dropped off at a bar called lido and have a beer in relatively western style surroundings before having a wander around the 4 or 5 blocks in the complex looking for them. apparently you can get full service for under 300k with a room onsite. but they mostly close at a about 9pm so get there early.

    6) tretes.

    this place is out of town. it has some spectacular panoramic views and behind all of the main roads are rabbit warren style streets full of working girls. you have to take them to your hotel, the going rate is 400k for three hours, usually that means a couple of pops if you like. the girls are hit and miss, some are easy going and nice, some hate their life and hate you. don't waste your time negotiating, it doesn't work, the price is set, some of the hotter ones cost 500 or 600 or even a million but 90% are 400k. like dolly, sometimes the quality isn't so great, but i have had two absolute stunners here because i was patient. the big name hotels here cost between 400k and 600k a night, but i wouldn't bother. if you have a friend or two with you, ask a random guy on the main street outside indomaret shop to find you a villa. you can get one with four bedrooms for about 750k, and a balcony and living room, way better than a nice small room in a hotel more designed for corporate meetings than girls. you'll probably be able to find a decent room on your own for less than 300k too. like i said about dolly earlier, specify that you want sucking and touching etc. i found it frustrating when i had three hours with a girl one time who would't let me undress her, she had to do it really quickly, she wouldn't let me touch her apart from her tits, and wouldn't suck my weiner. three hours is a long time. most taxi drivers should know where tretes is, should be able to get there for 200-300k. or, go to bungarasi bus station and get the bus to pandaan (pronounced panda-an) for like 10k or something, takes about an hour, maybe 90 mins. then take a bemo (little shitty minibus thing) for about 10k, they might try and ask you for 50 because they know tourists visit here) up the hill to tretes. get dropped of near the surya hotel and find a local guy to help, you'll be approached pretty quickly if you're a guy wihtout a girl.

    7) i found this very useful page full of number of outcall and massage places. it also has info about jakarta and other cities. i haven't used it yet, and i suspect it might be difficult if you can't speak indonesian, the page isn't even in english. there are loads of phone numbers, who knows about the looks and service though. http://18tahunplus.********.com/2009...plus-plus.html

    finally, the language!

    quick note. indonesian is a phonetic language, it rarely has stupid pronunciation like english. every time you see an 'i' it is pronounced 'ee' like the word 'feet'. 'see' is always 'ch' like in 'check'. 'you' is always 'oo' like 'food'. 'j' is always like the 'g' in 'germany' and 'g' is always like the 'g' in 'golf'

    remember this one: 'e' is almost always like a little 'uh' sound. like the 'e' in 'wallet'. if there is a 'h' after a vowel it makes the vowel sound long.

    here are some phrases to help you in dolly as an example:

    berapa? how much?

    seratus (one hundred) ribuh (thousand) 100000.

    1, 2.3, 4.5, 6.7, 8.9, 10 satu, dua, tiga, empat (sounds like 'mpa') lima, enam, tujuh, delapan, sembilan, sepuluh.

    20 duapuluh. 30 tigapuluh. 40 empatpuluh etc.

    ratus = hundred 100=seratus 200=duaratus 300=tigaratus.

    ribuh = thousand 1000=seribuh 2000=duaribuh 3000=tigaribuh.

    juta = million. 1mil=sejuta. 2mil =dua juta you get the idea.

    so, seratus enampuluh ribuh is 160000. they might sometimes just say seratus enampuluh, and not mention the ribuh, as you can't buy anything for 160 rupiah so it's pretty obvious they mean 160000.

    ada. "have" delightfully simple. it can also mean "have you got" in one little word. ada bir = have you got a beer? if they reply 'ada" it meanns, yes, we have got.

    iya = yes, tidak = no, 'ga' also means no. if they don'w have something they might say "ga ada".

    mau = want. again, delightfully simple. 'cewek' or 'perempuan' = girl. so,"mau cewek" = i want a girl.

    bisa = can i? or can you or can she? saya = i, anda = you, dia = he / she. menetek = suck. bisa dia menetak = can / will she suck. bisa dia menari = can she dance (not likely in dolly) bisa seks dubur (can anal sex)? i've never found anal in surabaya, though i haven't tried too hard. menyentuh = touch. bisa saya menyentuh dia = can i touch her? this can be confused with can i fuck her, you might want to gesticulate that you want to touch her pussy while you say this. also, do the internationally recognized body language symbol for cocksucking if you struggle with the cocksucking question.

    jigijigi= sex.

    jam = hour. satu jam = one hour. however, jam satu means 1 o clock. look at the numbers above and figure the rest out.

    bisa bahasa inggris (ing-gris) can you speak english?

    sedikit = slightly, a little bit. this is useful. sugar in coffee? sedikit. speak indonesian? sedikit? want spicy food? sedikit.

    belum = not yet. if a girl is taking off those wonderful sexy clothes as fast as possible, stop her, say 'belum'.

    suka = like.

    pakai = use or wear. pakai condom = use condom. pakai-an = clothes.

    although 'saya'. 'i' and 'anda' = you, these are very formal words. you can say 'aku' for 'i' and 'kamu' for 'you'. if you put 'ku' on the end of a word like beer it means 'my', likewise 'mu' on the end means 'your'. birku = my beer. so, the 'cewek', tries to take off her 'pakai-an' too quickly. you say,"belum, aku suka pakai-anmu, kamu seksi". then light up a cigarette while taking the occasional drink of beer and groping her through her clothes.

    lihat = 'look' or 'see'

    banyak = 'lots'

    jalanjalan = 'walk'

    mungkin = maybe.

    nanti = later.

    so, after looking at brothel in dolly, politely say to the pimp, mau jalanjalan, lihat banyak cewek. mungkin nanti iya.

    bayar = pay.

    say to the pimp.

    bayar nanti. pay later / at the end.

    taxis. very important "uang" = money."kecil" = small.

    ada uang kecil, pak? have you got small change mister? ask every taxi driver this as they'll usually pretend they haven't got it at the end of your journey so they can take a nice fifty off you.

    stop = stop! how convenient. di sini = at here. stop di sini = stop here. belok = turn. kiri = left, kanan = right.

    right, that's easily enough to keep you dirty old men at large til the fall! happy hunting!

  5. #532
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Example  [View Original Post]
    I believe either Bongo's or JJ's are already bankrupt.

    For pleasure seeker in Surabaya, here are some of the night life places in Surabaya:

    1. Ice Club (Lenmark)

    2. Playmate (Plaza Tunjungan)

    3. Coyote (Plaza Tunjungan)

    4. Desperados (Inside Shangri-La)

    5. Penthouse (Ngagel)
    Went to penthouse, its very posh place and girls are too good. But then its a KTV. The same with Playmate though the girls are much inferior. Will try Shangrila tonight and stasium top later.

  6. #531
    I will be here several months but is somebody living here to probably bring me around or to meet at Sub to get some more personell information?

  7. #530
    So at the moment I am staying at "Olympic Hotel". I just want to have some kind of massage with happy end or.

    Something like this. Are there any numbers you have for me to call?

    This hotel offers a massage but I don't know if it is reallly good.

    I have been to dolly yesterday but the pimps were really agressive and the girls I ve seen were not that good as I expected. I would guess all around a 5.

    So where am I able to meet those freelancers? I ve heard about a cemetry last days. I relly don't know how to get here and could it be dangerous out there?

    At which time would you recommend to go there?

    As long as if the price isn't about more than 500. 00 IDR it is really ok and I would try :-D.

    atPete 33 : Noting goes on without the raincoat.

  8. #529

    Surabaya & Malang

    Hi Bros,

    I already RTFF this forum postings since 2006 but never visited Surabaya. Will be in SBU for about four nights and decided to checkout the street actions instead of the MPs, Spas and the Clubs. Will save those for if I'm bored or can't find anyone I fancy on the street.

    I know Gang Dolly is a must see to believe, will checkout the place definitely. Any other streets or lanes I should checkout? Some mentioned Jalan Panglima Sudirman and the ones near Hotel Bumi (ex-Hyatt). Also the various RUKOs too. Also some Bros mentioned streets near Tunjungan Plaza. Confirmations that these places are still active with FL or WL would be good. Any tips other than relying on becak and taxi drivers to guide me? Malang is worse since there's no FR regarding the place. Will appreciate any since I'll be there for a night.

    Both FLs and WLs are fine with me as long as it's for ST to the nearest motel or their rooms. Budget and language is not a problem too although I'll only be able to go out from 8pm to 3am approximately (still need to sleep). Would love to fuck as much as my dick can handle during the stay.

    Appreciate any inputs. Cheers!

  9. #528
    Quote Originally Posted by JayaPapaya  [View Original Post]
    I have been to Surabaya recently and can recommend two things.

    1. Desperados Bar & Restaurant at the Shangri-La Hotel.

    Actually, no idea about the food, but after 10pm this place is crawling with girls offering their services. Usually by midnight there are some 60-100 girls there, ranges from young to old (most of them are very young though) , some are very pretty, most are ok. They will ask around US$ 30-50 for an hour, so a good thing to do is to take 3-4 and pile them up on the bed of your hotel room.

    Enjoy!
    Have spent many nights here and would agree. Also the ideal place if you are in town for a relatively short period. Food is good. Big nelpings and OK pricing for a 5-star hotel. In the past have had good bands, but not sure about recent times.

  10. #527

    Dhian

    I have been to Surabaya recently and can recommend two things.

    1. Desperados Bar & Restaurant at the Shangri-La Hotel.

    Actually, no idea about the food, but after 10pm this place is crawling with girls offering their services. Usually by midnight there are some 60-100 girls there, ranges from young to old (most of them are very young though) , some are very pretty, most are ok. They will ask around US$ 30-50 for an hour, so a good thing to do is to take 3-4 and pile them up on the bed of your hotel room.

    2. Dhian.

    Dhian says she is a student in Surabaya. Not sure about that one. She is also not the prettiest girl you will meet while in Surabaya. What I do know is that she gives amazing BBBJ, and will absolutely fuck you dry. She asks for US$ 80 / hour and really is worth her money. As she is however counting the hours in the escort-time-zone (I. E. Shorter) , best to tell her you mean a real hour, and are willing to tip her a little bit extra if she makes her hours longer. You can find her here: dhiansexy. Escort-site. Com.

    Enjoy!

  11. #526

    Surabaya hunting.

    Bro. .

    01. RTFF.

    02. On a limited budget, then, DOLLY is your best bet.

    03. The rates are from Rp. 90, 000. 00 [US$9. 00] upto Rp. 200, 000. 00 [US$.20. 00] for 60 minutes upto 90 minutes.

    04. Unfortunately, most of the girls got a very very limited command of English.

    05. Forget the KTV; with the Room Booking, Girl[s] Booking, Drinks and Snacks. You would be spending easily around at least Rp. 3,000, 000. 00.

    06. Good luck and post your adventure on line.

    Ciao,

    Pete33.

    P. S.

    ALWAYS remember to wear your "raincoat".

    Pete33.

    Quote Originally Posted by MistelDistel  [View Original Post]
    Hi there.

    I am right now in SUB. I am normally a student in Germany but we want to spend some different night on our trip around the world.

    And in every country we "test" those girls.

    I did not understand what you are talking in this topic about.

    I have some questions to all of you.

    But for Information. WE ARE Students. We cannot afford the upper class as about 1, 2 Mio Rp.

    1. What is a KTV?

    2. Is DOlly still a place to get some girls?

    3. In Which "payable" clubs do you find such girls?

    4. What are the prices?

    5. Maybe we can get some really nice tips recommendation from other forum members.

  12. #525

    I am right now in SUB and we need help

    Hi there.

    I am right now in SUB. I am normally a student in Germany but we want to spend some different night on our trip around the world.

    And in every country we "test" those girls.

    I did not understand what you are talking in this topic about.

    I have some questions to all of you.

    But for Information. WE ARE Students. We cannot afford the upper class as about 1, 2 Mio Rp.

    1. What is a KTV?

    2. Is DOlly still a place to get some girls?

    3. In Which "payable" clubs do you find such girls?

    4. What are the prices?

    5. Maybe we can get some really nice tips recommendation from other forum members.

  13. #524

    Heading back to SUB in about 10 days.

    If anyone has any suggestions besides Desperados, let me know. I'll have 2 evenings to look for fun. Might have to hit KTV one of those nights with business partners.

  14. #523
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyGolfr  [View Original Post]
    I believe JJ's in the the Westin Hotel or Marriott. Bongo's Fun Pub is in the Sheraton.
    I believe either Bongo's or JJ's are already bankrupt.

    For pleasure seeker in Surabaya, here are some of the night life places in Surabaya:

    1. Ice Club (Lenmark)

    2. Playmate (Plaza Tunjungan)

    3. Coyote (Plaza Tunjungan)

    4. Desperados (Inside Shangri-La)

    5. Penthouse (Ngagel)

  15. #522

    Desperado surprises

    Yes the population of Desperados is a bit disappointing, with many unattractive girls. But on the four last occasions were one or two girls joined me upstairs, the service was surprisingly good, and all the girls enjoyed themselves, which is important for me. The duo who followed me in the lift were attractive, well dressed, almost sophisticated and provided PSE: the joined me in turn in the shower, and on the bed it took 30 seconds for a long 6 and 9 to start. (version of 69) There are a few seasoned professionals in the lot. An added bonus if you stay at the Shangri La is the convenience.

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