Kansai: Kobe-Osaka-Nara-Kyoto

[Homer69]

I think you're missing one simple fact. Like it or not, foreigners are bad for business. You can't fight this. It's part of the Japanese DNA and there is nothing that is going to change this. If you can't accept this simple fact then you're not understanding where I am coming from.

I'm not bending over backwards or taking shit from any tencho by pretending to be mistaken and bowing out for another time. I am just extending professional courtesy to make his or her job easier. A bunch of Japanese, regardless of how polite and dismissive they are will be made extremely uncomfortable to be in the presence of a foreigner. We're all there for the same reason. Everything is about saving face and this sort of thing is appreciated and avoids any chance of the tencho losing face with his customers.

I've been at healths before where I was quickly whisked into a side room. I didn't know what was going on at first but it became clear they wanted my business but didn't want me looking at the book in the lobby area. When I explained I understood what was going on they apologized profusely and were glad that I understood.

I don't see this sort of compensatory behavior as being anything but courteous and making the best of a less than optimal situation. If you've ever been to high end soaps they do this, even with Japanese customers. They'll hold you in your room for a few minutes until the halls and lobby clears so no customer ever needs to see another customer.

Regarding complaining about bad service, there is a right way and a wrong way. The wrong way is to be direct about it. The right way is to be vague and allow for saving face. That's just my opinion. I never complain about bad service, I just don't go back.

homer

I'm not sure how much I agree with You or Azure on this issue.

Don't get me wrong though, we all know why tenchos won't accept us foreigners at times. I'm not arguing that point. But it seems to me as though you guys are forgetting we're customers. We shouldn't have to bend over backwards to get serviced.

A small disclaimer before I continue my argument. I have things a bit easier than most western customers, I'm a halfie (not Japanese half though) and as such I blend in well enough that a tencho will never hide me. I'm still recognized as a foreigner, but as long as no one stares too long at me, they probably won't realize I'm a foreigner. That works well since most people avoid eye contact anyways. So considering this, I may have an easier time dealing with this industry than other foreigners.

Don't get me wrong. I'm always polite, and in general I try to be the best sort of customer. I do ask for FS from every girl I meet, meaning I break the rules constantly, but that point aside I do my best to cause as little trouble as possible. I never argue with anyone, and I understand no means no.

I think generally we're all on the same page. Show proper respect, and you're as good as gold. The issue I have with your opinions is that it seems many on these forums are advocating that we just take whatever crap they give us. I say if there is something worth complaining about, then say something. Don't let it lead to an argument though, that's just lose-lose.

Generally speaking, I find it stupid to complain over bad service. That's more the fault of the girl and the shop can't do anything about that really. But if you feel like you're getting shafted, say something. Just keep your cool when you do it. Raise the issue with an employee and maybe the issue will be resolved, if not don't head back there again. Though, again letting it lead to an argument is never helpful and detrimental to us gaijin as a whole. I'm NOT saying we should act like jerks. I'm just saying that there is no reason to get shafted.

Though as others have said, being polite goes a long way. Once you've established that you're a great customer, employees will be the ones bending over backwards to get things done for you. I know several shops that let me go with girls whether or not they will service foreigners. There's also a specific shop that I feel recruits the best girls. However, the tencho there seems to be a bit on the racist side, so rather than dealing with him, I go to a sister shop whose tencho knows me well. I usually have him set things up for me.

[Zcorps]

AK,

I have the same views as you. The racism is part of it but for the most part, I have some long-standing relationships with a few shops and the fact I can get serviced and other gaijin cannot is because of this and much of it has to do with the courtesies I extend. They know I'm discreet and I won't show up when there are many Japanese waiting around, for instance. This is professional courtesy that doesn't need to be said. I've poked my head in, saw the crowd, switched to English and just said, "Excuse me, I'm looking for shiatsu" or something like that and quickly left. Tencho really appreciate this sort of thing, especially if they know you. I don't scare off his core customer base and I simply return when I can be shuffled back very quickly.

homer

I'm not sure how much I agree with You or Azure on this issue.

Don't get me wrong though, we all know why tenchos won't accept us foreigners at times. I'm not arguing that point. But it seems to me as though you guys are forgetting we're customers. We shouldn't have to bend over backwards to get serviced.

A small disclaimer before I continue my argument. I have things a bit easier than most western customers, I'm a halfie (not Japanese half though) and as such I blend in well enough that a tencho will never hide me. I'm still recognized as a foreigner, but as long as no one stares too long at me, they probably won't realize I'm a foreigner. That works well since most people avoid eye contact anyways. So considering this, I may have an easier time dealing with this industry than other foreigners.

Don't get me wrong. I'm always polite, and in general I try to be the best sort of customer. I do ask for FS from every girl I meet, meaning I break the rules constantly, but that point aside I do my best to cause as little trouble as possible. I never argue with anyone, and I understand no means no.

I think generally we're all on the same page. Show proper respect, and you're as good as gold. The issue I have with your opinions is that it seems many on these forums are advocating that we just take whatever crap they give us. I say if there is something worth complaining about, then say something. Don't let it lead to an argument though, that's just lose-lose.

Generally speaking, I find it stupid to complain over bad service. That's more the fault of the girl and the shop can't do anything about that really. But if you feel like you're getting shafted, say something. Just keep your cool when you do it. Raise the issue with an employee and maybe the issue will be resolved, if not don't head back there again. Though, again letting it lead to an argument is never helpful and detrimental to us gaijin as a whole. I'm NOT saying we should act like jerks. I'm just saying that there is no reason to get shafted.

Though as others have said, being polite goes a long way. Once you've established that you're a great customer, employees will be the ones bending over backwards to get things done for you. I know several shops that let me go with girls whether or not they will service foreigners. There's also a specific shop that I feel recruits the best girls. However, the tencho there seems to be a bit on the racist side, so rather than dealing with him, I go to a sister shop whose tencho knows me well. I usually have him set things up for me.

[Homer69]

AK,

I have the same views as you. The racism is part of it but for the most part, I have some long-standing relationships with a few shops and the fact I can get serviced and other gaijin cannot is because of this and much of it has to do with the courtesies I extend. They know I'm discreet and I won't show up when there are many Japanese waiting around, for instance. This is professional courtesy that doesn't need to be said. I've poked my head in, saw the crowd, switched to English and just said, "Excuse me, I'm looking for shiatsu" or something like that and quickly left. Tencho really appreciate this sort of thing, especially if they know you. I don't scare off his core customer base and I simply return when I can be shuffled back very quickly.

homer

I’ve met with WG who tell me they prefer foreigners. We actually treat them like human beings and also make an effort for them to enjoy the time as well, as opposed to Japanese guys who just blow in, do the deed, and blow out. So, YMMV.

Regarding the “racism”, from what I can tell its not even really a personal thing. As most of you know, the industry is fairly out in the open here despite it technically being illegal. They have a fragile relationship with the police/lawmakers in that if they don’t bring attention to themselves, the authorities will just look the other way.

The problem with us foreigners is that we draw attention automatically. Can’t be helped, the population here is 99% Japanese. Maybe one or two would be OK, but if a bunch of foreigners started to frequent a shop, this would be very attention-bringing, and the authorities would have to act. Your 20,000 yen isn’t worth the risk of getting the business closed down.

Then of course there’s the language barrier. They don’t expect you to understand how the system works, and they don’t think they can explain it to (even if you show some level of Japanese understanding). Many girls also feel uncomfortable trying to work with a guy they can’t communicate with. And if there’s a problem they’ll be no way to resolve it. And this is an absolute worst-case scenario, but if there’s some sort of big incident and it makes international news…do you think Japan’s overseas friends would also be willing to look the other way?

As I understand it, these are the primary reasons why foreigners are usually turned away. After that, then factor in your racism - we’re too big for the girls, we play too rough, we’re riddled with STD’s, take your pick.

This doesn’t mean its hopeless for us. Its still a business, they still want your money. You just have to show them that taking your money is safe and won’t lead to the aforementioned problems. Japanese ability helps a LOT, but sometimes isn’t even necessary - I saw a guy once navigate Tobita with a 60% or so call rate, without speaking a word. Through his actions and mannerisms, he let everyone there know he was a pro - he knew what was up, and they didn’t have to worry about him messing up the system.

I think a certain amount of humility and niceness is necessary. No matter how much Japanese you know or how well you know the system, there are tencho and girls who are convinced that you’re bad for the system, and nothing you can do will change their mind. Other places may be unsure, but willing to take a risk perhaps is business is slow enough at that point. Accept the system for what it is and learn how to use it in your favor. Take rejections in stride, and if you are accepted somewhere, always show the tencho and the girls the proper amount of respect. Even if you felt the service was horrible, smile, thank them, and then complain about it here on the ISG. Complaining there won’t help your case. Maybe some random Japanese guy can roll in and be drunk and belligerent and they simply have to smile and take it - but we don’t have that luxury.

You should strive to be the best customer that shop has ever had - both in the eyes of the tencho and the girl. With system we’ll never get the same opportunities or availability that the Japanese guys do, but it would help to expand our options a bit. Even if you don’t give a rats ass about your fellow mongers (you should), it works for you too - at one of my favorite places, I’m getting a sweet deal on double the time for half the price - simply because I frequented it and was always very nice to the tencho and the girl. Even before that they always gave me freebies.

Not just for P4P but in general as well. This isn’t the 80’s anymore, where just being foreign was like having a golden ticket.

If you don’t want to or can’t do this, then you are probably trying to monger in the wrong country.

[Azure Knight]

I’ve met with WG who tell me they prefer foreigners. We actually treat them like human beings and also make an effort for them to enjoy the time as well, as opposed to Japanese guys who just blow in, do the deed, and blow out. So, YMMV.

Regarding the “racism”, from what I can tell its not even really a personal thing. As most of you know, the industry is fairly out in the open here despite it technically being illegal. They have a fragile relationship with the police/lawmakers in that if they don’t bring attention to themselves, the authorities will just look the other way.

The problem with us foreigners is that we draw attention automatically. Can’t be helped, the population here is 99% Japanese. Maybe one or two would be OK, but if a bunch of foreigners started to frequent a shop, this would be very attention-bringing, and the authorities would have to act. Your 20,000 yen isn’t worth the risk of getting the business closed down.

Then of course there’s the language barrier. They don’t expect you to understand how the system works, and they don’t think they can explain it to (even if you show some level of Japanese understanding). Many girls also feel uncomfortable trying to work with a guy they can’t communicate with. And if there’s a problem they’ll be no way to resolve it. And this is an absolute worst-case scenario, but if there’s some sort of big incident and it makes international news…do you think Japan’s overseas friends would also be willing to look the other way?

As I understand it, these are the primary reasons why foreigners are usually turned away. After that, then factor in your racism - we’re too big for the girls, we play too rough, we’re riddled with STD’s, take your pick.

This doesn’t mean its hopeless for us. Its still a business, they still want your money. You just have to show them that taking your money is safe and won’t lead to the aforementioned problems. Japanese ability helps a LOT, but sometimes isn’t even necessary - I saw a guy once navigate Tobita with a 60% or so call rate, without speaking a word. Through his actions and mannerisms, he let everyone there know he was a pro - he knew what was up, and they didn’t have to worry about him messing up the system.

I think a certain amount of humility and niceness is necessary. No matter how much Japanese you know or how well you know the system, there are tencho and girls who are convinced that you’re bad for the system, and nothing you can do will change their mind. Other places may be unsure, but willing to take a risk perhaps is business is slow enough at that point. Accept the system for what it is and learn how to use it in your favor. Take rejections in stride, and if you are accepted somewhere, always show the tencho and the girls the proper amount of respect. Even if you felt the service was horrible, smile, thank them, and then complain about it here on the ISG. Complaining there won’t help your case. Maybe some random Japanese guy can roll in and be drunk and belligerent and they simply have to smile and take it - but we don’t have that luxury.

You should strive to be the best customer that shop has ever had - both in the eyes of the tencho and the girl. With system we’ll never get the same opportunities or availability that the Japanese guys do, but it would help to expand our options a bit. Even if you don’t give a rats ass about your fellow mongers (you should), it works for you too - at one of my favorite places, I’m getting a sweet deal on double the time for half the price - simply because I frequented it and was always very nice to the tencho and the girl. Even before that they always gave me freebies.

Not just for P4P but in general as well. This isn’t the 80’s anymore, where just being foreign was like having a golden ticket.

If you don’t want to or can’t do this, then you are probably trying to monger in the wrong country.

[Traveler X]

The racism is usually base on ignorance, but occasionally a bad experience as well (foreign guy demanding FS would be that). Some shops have a no gaijin policy, but if you can speak enough Japanese you may get the girl to your door, and most likely she will do you anyway since she wants to get paid.

I can attest there are a few formerly gaijin friendly venues that decided to start refusing gaijin after several of them broke the rules. Big rules, not little ones. Taking pictures of strippers, trying FS when it's BJ only, assault, etc..

In any case, most of the time it's a matter of Japanese ability. When I couldn't speak Japanese, I was rejected from 90% of shops. Speaking perfect Japanese (grammatically, but with an accent) I've never been rejected. There are some places that will ask me to pay 10% more, most notably soaplands. I never go into them, so it doesn't matter.

I'm Asian, so it has nothing to do with white/asian either. BTW, this is so true: http://karatethejapaneseway.com/phot...sma_man_01.jpg

[Lion]

, I specifically chose one myself meaning I didn't come across a review here. To protect the identity of the people and the company involved, I will call them Club CV.

The purpose of this board is to provide info on getting sex in Japan. Although some report places without revealing the names, in those cases the poster generally provides pictures, and is willing to share the details of the place via PM.

There absolutely no reason to protect the company-they are in the businesses and it is legal. As for the girl who provided FS-that is your choice on whether to reveal her name or not. But remember, she does it to make money. By "protecting" her you are in fact denying her the chance to work.

Telling us the name of the company will help caucasians avoid wasting their time calling and help Asian mongers find it. You are not the only person of Asian decent on this board.

[Ozboy]

Goo Jun Pyo,

If you arent gonna tell us the name of the company, or post "pics" which you brag about, whats the point of posting this?

I mean you typed a ton, and reading it was nice and all but its completely useless.

Exactly. With a few unnecessary jabs thrown in for humor.

[Tokyo Nampa King]

Goo Jun Pyo,

If you arent gonna tell us the name of the company, or post "pics" which you brag about, whats the point of posting this?

I mean you typed a ton, and reading it was nice and all but its completely useless.

[Lion]

Sounds fun.

Not quite sure why a WG would care whether a guy (white black or whatever) thinks she's easy or not. Then refuse him as a customer based on that?

Could be just me mate but her reasoning sounds a bit dodgy. Its a business transaction, not a loving relationship. Sounds like garden variety racism to me. No big deal, though, I just prefer when folks are up front about it.

Why not post up the name of the place?

I suspect a lot of DH customers are "can't find a woman/my wife doesn't put out" types, and the DH girls are surprised foreign men are in that situation too.

The racism is usually base on ignorance, but occasionally a bad experience as well (foreign guy demanding FS would be that). Some shops have a no gaijin policy, but if you can speak enough Japanese you may get the girl to your door, and most likely she will do you anyway since she wants to get paid.

I agree that you should post the name-no need to "protect" them, since they won't serve non-Japanese speaking customers.

[Member #3439]

Not to be a negative nancy here but what shes telling me seems kinda believable. THe majority of my gaijin caucasian friends think that J-girls are easy and believe they can pick up anyone they choose. Whether 100% real or not, these types of stereotypes damage your chances.

It's the English teacher stereotype that ruins it. They think every white man must be an English teacher. The non-pro J-girls always ask me if I am one. Cautiously. When I tell them 'no' and my actual profession, they become more interested and break out of their shell. I'd say that if a man has a decent paying job, and a couple of spare nights to spend on the bar scene, it would be easy to make pretty J-friends with benefits in Osaka.

Thanks for the great detailed reports.

[Ozboy]

Sounds fun.

Not quite sure why a WG would care whether a guy (white black or whatever) thinks she's easy or not. Then refuse him as a customer based on that?

Could be just me mate but her reasoning sounds a bit dodgy. Its a business transaction, not a loving relationship. Sounds like garden variety racism to me. No big deal, though, I just prefer when folks are up front about it.

Why not post up the name of the place?

[Goo Jun Pyo]

I decided to use my Japanese and call up a DH again, but this time, I specifically chose one myself meaning I didn't come across a review here. To protect the identity of the people and the company involved, I will call them Club CV.

I rang them up and asked is it okay for a korean to use their service and they said it depends. I told them I'm Korean american and they said sure. Because I didn't want to pay for something I'm not sure if I'm being set up on, I chose the cheapest course (45mins for 12-13k). I do not get the option to choose the girl (though I almost could have; some other guy blurted to the receptionist that 45min course doesn't entail such). Well, I said as long as the photos on the website are true, then dare de mo ii. The site had girls from 18-24. They said it is and the girl will arrive in an hour if thats ok. Gave them my contact and location.

An hour later, I don't get a call but a knock on my door. Its the girl (who I will call 'M'). She asked is she in the right home because she was supposed to meet a korean. I said yea. She was a little suprised (as was I. She was tiny but freaking hot as hell. Gyaru-kei type but her skin was white). She said I look too Japanese so she couldn't tell. I laughed and let her in.

We discussed the rate. Initially, I had decided on 45 mins but she was too hot to pass up so I went with 60min course. Paid her and went to shower together. She had small tits (a Japanese B-cup which is small). While showering, I asked the question about gaijin: whats her/companies opinion and how receptive. She said caucasian gaijin was zettai dame (not at all = no can do). She said people frown upon them, especially the young DH girls. Probably due to fear of diseases, smell and a caucasians sense of entitlement, she thinks. I think that for the last part, she means the caucasians always think that J-girls are easy but really, they are not, and that such gaijins usually set themselves up for a world of hurt with that expectation. Furthermore, she thinks that caucasians think they can come to Japan and have sex with any J-girl because they think J-girls dig them. But they rarely do. I, too, notice that whenever you see a caucasian with a J-girl. I'm sorry, but its usually the not-so-pretty ones. Sames goes for black guys, she said. I said why am I ok since I'm gaijin. She said I look too Japanese to worry and generally, the girls don't have a problem with Chinese and Korean as long as they are clean and proper; not to be racist but another analogy is not someone dressed in a Mao suit (mainland Chinese/ North korean) or otakuppoi (Starcraft obsessed South Koreans). I laughed at that that and she asked why did I ask. I told her I hear many gaijins get refused and she said that thats just usually the caucasians and for the said reason. However, she said it appears older woman (mid to late 30s and older) don't seem to care. But I guess by that stage, they shouldn't hahaha.

We talked a bit more while drying up. She said I looked young, even though my age is a lot older (28 versus 23, hehe). She was 19/20 years old. Though the site said she's 18. We laughed and she said companies do that sometimes to entice people. We laughed some more and headed to bed.

Hopped on and first thing she asks is what should we do. I just began DFK but she stopped and said lets honban. I'm like what? ! ? ! (in a positive sense. I was shocked that the girl would suggest it). I asked if its ok and she said yea. Just don't tell the company or anyone that works for the company. I said yarashii hahaha. She just laughed. DATY first and she was so into it, moaning and breathing quite heavily. Switched up to te-man. Got her wet but couldn't make her cum. She switched over to BBBJ and was very eager for FS. Even I had to slow her down hahaha. She laughed. Started missionary and her pussy was super tight (she was a tiny girl after all). Switch over to cowgirl. Tried back but it was difficult as she was tiny and I'm tall (181cm). Decided missionary again and then finished with tegoki.

After that, showered and. Took pictures! She said don't post them (which I won't here) as pictures are supposed to cost but she didn't mind so long as its between her and I. I also got her keitai email. Talked some more about life and about appearance (how I'm oni-kei, gyaruo-like, in appearance; how shes cute and shit). She was dumped recently (not sure over what but I think I can guess) by her bf. I told her I broke up half a year ago. She said its sad eh? I didn't know to take her serious or not but I answerd 'yea, its rough. Oh well, lets play again next time *wink*' and she said 'of course'. I'm starting to like her, hehe.

End of review.

Review of girl:
Face = A+. Super cute and very nice complexion.
Body = A+. Tiny tits are offset by tight body. Im not into big boobs anyways. Her legs were really nice, long (for her small height), and really smooth.
Sex = A++!!!

Not to be a negative nancy here but what shes telling me seems kinda believable. THe majority of my gaijin caucasian friends think that J-girls are easy and believe they can pick up anyone they choose. Whether 100% real or not, these types of stereotypes damage your chances.

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[Goo Jun Pyo]

Okay so I decided to try DH today and I'll write up my report here.

I gave that ikenai okusan a shot since I've read here that they never refuse gaijin (though the girl said she would never have known I wasn't Japanese).

It was around noonish and I decided to give them a shot. I placed a request using their online form. THe majority of the pictures were blurred at the face which kinda made choosing difficult. Looking at measurements and the pictures, I decided on Manami. She has that slender look and cute looking face (albeit blurred but it's my visual imagination/ fill in the blank) and her favorite type was AV-type things. I requested for her at 1:15pm. Time goes by and I tried to put in another request, thinking maybe the first time they didn't receive it. This time, I ask for 2:15pm. 2:15pm came and went without a sign so I was tempting just give up and go to Tobita and try my luck there. At the same time, today was pouring and I didn't want to go out if I didn't have to. As I lay on my bed just napping, my cell rings at 2:25pm and its the company calling saying Manami is booked all day and unfortunately won't be able to do me today. I wasn't too worried about that (I only tried to picture what she would look like minus the blur so it really was just a gamble anyways) as my only concern was them getting back to me. I asked to the guy on the phone "dou shyou?" meaning what now or what should we do. He said based on what I submitted, if my selection was not available, I would like someone that is slender, young (20-30 years of age), and cute. I said yes. The guy suggested a girl named Rei. I asked if its possible to go preview some pictures online before going ahead. He said yes and told me to check while he waits. I checked and looked at her measurements. She has a small rack but her waist is small (which is a plus) so I said sure. I confirmed my address and part 1 was complete. He said in about 20 minutes, she should be there.

5 minutes later, I get a call from the guy saying she won't be there till 3:20pm and apologized for that. I said no problem and he said ok and apologized again.

3:15pm and I get a call from the driver saying he is here. I said ok. 2 minutes later, Rei is at my apartment door, takes a look and smiles and walks in. She was dressed in a very short miniskirt and a white blazer jacket. Very OL-ish, yet sexy at the same time. We introduce each other and I told her I'm not Japanese. She said she heard but she doesn't mind. I just kept staring at her body as it was quite nice (keep in mind she is still clothed).

We walk to my room and discuss the plans. I chose the 50 minute course with polaroid option (why? I have no idea right now :P). She calls her driver or the company and tells them the details. She tells me its 18000yen. I asked isn't it 16000yen, because the website said so. She broke it down saying the extra 2000yen was because I selected a girl (which in actuality, I didn't really have a direct say--more like I agreed with what the guy recommended). I handed over the money and she said let's shower. I didn't really want to (kinda lazy and I already did before I requested the girl) and I explained why. She said ok and I showed her the shower room. She asked where to put the clothes and I told her to just change right outside it. She said ok. While she did that, I removed my jeans and left my boxers and t-shirt on. I watched as she stripped and she looked at me and giggled. I went to grab her tits right there. They were pretty firm but her nipples were a little weird. Inverted? I dunno how to explain. We did a DFK before she went in.

I waited at my bed as she comes over. All this time, she never counted my 50 minutes. She said I should be naked (haha) and I said "you're right!" so I removed my clothes. Her strengths were kissing and I think the other word was licking. We started with DFK and she was really good. I can tell she didn't want to stop. As we continued, I moved my hand down to her pussy and started playing her clit. She started moaning (at times, I think she was faking but whatever) and then I moved my fingers inside her. She went wild and started screaming (I was worried neighbors could hear us, haha). I wasnt able to get her to cum but my hand was pretty wet. She was giving me a HJ while commenting how big I was compared to Japanese. I was happy, of course and thanked her for that compliment. She then went down and gave me BBBJ and was very good feeling. Seems pretty experienced. I ask for 69 and she said of course. Her pussy was clean and pink. Very wet. I went down on her and she kept moaning while continuing BBBJ. IT was awesome feeling. I couldn't help myself so I asked if I can put it inside her. She said 'dame' and said she was not allowed to. I said ok and suggested sumata. She said ok and she did that. I almost cummed during the sumata grinding she did. She varied it up and was great at it. When I was about to cum, I told her to go back to 69 (cuz I didn't want to end it right now) and we did. After that, more BBBJ where I just watched her. I asked her to try deep throat but she had no idea what it was (which to me was strange considering their occupation), so I explained it in Japanese saying its to stick the whole thing inside the mouth. She did it (looked like she initially gagged a bit) and then continued for a bit. She then changed back to BBBJ and going for the balls. Finally, I came in her mouth and she said it was great and I put a lot in her. I told her the same that she was wonderful.

Because I had the polaroid option, we got to take 4 pictures. I took her front, up close of her pussy, her ass/pussy view, and one where I put my dick (no condom) a bit inside her vagina to look like we were doing it. She said that picture was a little too ecchi and laughed. We talked for a bit and some more DFK. I played with her pussy some more and then after that, she said she wanted to shower with me. I said the tub is too small but she said thats ok and she wanted to wash me.

We made out while showering. She kept stroking my dick while we washed each other. She asked how old I was and I told her to guess. She said 24 but I told her I was 28 (which I am) and then I asked her. She said she was 32. She said she does guys younger than her so she is okay with it. I just laugh (though at the same time, a little disappointed it wasn't the 20-30 year old girl I requested for).

We exited the shower. Dried ourselves and she gave me her business card and made out some more. I looked at my clock and noticed she was at my place for at least an hour since entering. Her driver had to call her cell telling her is she ready. She said she will finish up soon and be down there. We made out some more before she left but before that...I snuck my hand down her pussy once more to play with it. She said "it feels good and lets do it next time".

We kissed and then she left. What an experience! This was my first time using Fuzoku for sex and stuff so it was totally new. I was a little disappointed by the fact we didn't have sex nor was she the age I had requested, but what she provided me was top notch. Her name was Rei, if you want to know and she works everyday 9am-5pm.

Girl review:
Face: Okay. If she was younger, her face would have been a beauty.
Body: Slender with firm boobs. Her tits were on the small side (site says she is C-cup) but felt great. I managed to get her nipples to pop up hard. Her waist was small but she has that woman gut (kinda like a small belly that all girls have as they get older unless they work out). Her legs were long and thighs were firm, not fat, which is a good thing.
Pussy tasted great...if youre into that sort of thing. She gets very wet and easily too.

From this experience...

Positive: she stayed longer than the 50 minutes. was willing to do anything other than sex (at least for now, Im assuming, since it was our first meeting). when I mean anything, literally ANYTHING. I didn't pay for anus iicking and she occasionally dipped down there, gave me a look and asked if thats ok (which of course it is haha). Great sumata and crazily good feeling BBBJ.

Negatives: she smokes so i can taste it when we DFK. it bothered me a bit but I don't mind a whole lot. the company lied to me that the girl would be 20-30 years old but she was 32 years old. She didn't look old, but still. An untrained eye would have past her as 29-30 years old.

Overall, great experience. If you are into girls that are 30+ years old, give her a shot. She is great and I have to say this again, her pussy tastes great!

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[Goo Jun Pyo]

KDH will always include FS.

Regular DH may or may not. Possibly free, more likely an extra charge of 5-10,000. I met a DH girl a couple times who charges an extra 10,000, which isn't too bad since the basic 80min course is just 13,000. So 23,000 for over an hour of playtime-much better than Tobita. Course you may be just as happy with 2-3 BBBJs in that time as well...

She said about half her customers want FS, and that some, but not all girls where she works offer it.

What is KDH?

[Lion]

I always had the impression that deliheru provided FS, no? Or is that assumpation bad? I read here that some of the posters don't get it while some do. Is it the girl and gaijin-phobia factor?

Or is FS always prohibited with deliheru?

KDH will always include FS.

Regular DH may or may not. Possibly free, more likely an extra charge of 5-10,000. I met a DH girl a couple times who charges an extra 10,000, which isn't too bad since the basic 80min course is just 13,000. So 23,000 for over an hour of playtime-much better than Tobita. Course you may be just as happy with 2-3 BBBJs in that time as well...

She said about half her customers want FS, and that some, but not all girls where she works offer it.