Kansai: Kobe-Osaka-Nara-Kyoto

[Crouching Tiger]

I was in Osaka earlier in the month of oct. When I first walked around saw a lot of old, chubby, and not so good looking women. I was wondering please tell me there has got to more and this must be the bad area, finally I found an area where the girls were really good looking. Don't know if this was the good area people were talking about. It was the weekend that I went- and was as you folks put getting a 95%+ call rate-so many to chose from so little time and money. Anyway chose a really hot chick on two seperate occasions-but as has been my experience girls that are really hot don't really put out.

It was nice to do really hot looking girls, but the ones that get my repeat business or loyalty are the ones that are GFE and enthusiastic.

BTW-a question the streets that had the hot girls that I saw had a rather large grandfather like clock at the end of the one street. Is this the area where the hot ones are supposed to be? Or is it another location that I missed?

If I ever muster up the time and money and maybe a pal to take trip back to Japan-maybe I can hook up with senior moner like AK and others.

But just wanted to thank the vets-wish I had the guns to try other areas, but wanted to play tourist to when not working.

[Arje79]

Sorry for posting twice, but I just found the card I received from Freajia. As Stew2 mentioned, it is in the last door on the left. The door is closed, and outside has another Kanji name. Just get inside, and (I don't know why) the sign of Freajia is next to the door. It is a very small place, and the counter is right after the door. I think it explains partly why it is so cheap.

The guy was very nice, and when I told him last time I entered by mistake to the other store, he told me that prices are really different. He just proceeded to tell me the prices and the offer they had for 60min plus Hotel (8900yen). It was before 7pm, so it was ok. I also took the shimei, and although I saw a kinda nice girl, I choosed another that looked like gal type (Sae). I never had a gal in Japan, so I though it could be nice, but I should have looked more carefully the age (29). Well, I waited in a small room next to the counter and she was ready in less than 5min.

She was definetively not like in the picture. Short hair, a bit fatty (long one and younger in the pic) and definetively taller than I expected (1.68m, and I am 1.64m). Well, I was hoping at least she may have a nice rack. She took me to the same hotel from the other shop I went and payed the room.

This time it was really small room. Only place for the bed (it was enclosed in the walls), and bath. She was talkative. She told me she was from Okayama, and just got separated, while she was getting undressed. Not so nice body, actually (I am really a boob guy), so I kinda get dissapointed, but anyway... I give it a try. We went to the shower, brush teeth, and then got into action.

She asked me what I like the most, being done or doing it, so I told her to give it a try on both. Some kissing, I went down (hard with the walls of the room), and then tried a 69. She had a pretty good technique (she told me that she was on this job about a year), BBBJ, finished, and shower again.

I don't think it was a bad experience, but I expected a sexier girl. She was a 4-5 in my list, definetively not the girl I would Nampa around. Next time I would like to try Mami since I saw her in the website. Freajia is kinda nice place if you like BJ, but I really prefer FS. I definetively will try that Chinese place.

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[Arje79]

I finally tried Freajia... As I said in a previous post, the first time I tried to find it, I ended in the shop that is in front of it. Sadly I didnt read the report of Stew2 http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=594254 so I couldn't figure out that it was the last door on the left.

Well, the one I went was a kinda usual price one. It was called something like Nabeyama Clinic (at least that was the card I received). If you go to Diamond Bld, 4f and just right out of the elevator you will see their office. There are two guys behind a counter, and I talked to the one on the left. I started to figure out it was not Freajia when I looked to the prices. It was something like 14000yen for 60min, without Hotel fare. The girls were nice, though, but my budget was kinda small and I was thinking about just to leave when the counter guy told me that there was an offer for a girl that just started that day. It was 12000yen including hotel fare, and the girl didnt look so bad (it was not so clear keitai picture). I choosed her, and they made me wait in the room next to the office (just in front of Freajia!!). There was another guy, and they had a TV and a beverage machine. When my turn came, they send me to the elevator and told me the girl will wait for me in the second floor.

I got in and meet her as told. She took me to a small hotel just one block away (I later found out that also Freajia girls take you there too). We entered, I payed the room, and we got into bussiness. No FS, but it was pretty much GFE. It really seemed to be her first time, since she forgot at first to call the office to tell she started, and also forgot to lock the door (another couple almost entered, was kinda funny and scary at the same time). We started with some kissing and went down, we took a shower then, more kissing on the bed and she did a pretty good BBBJ. Some chatting while hugging her, time is up, and got dressed. When we were leaving, she said it was nice, please come back again and told me by mistake her real name. It was kinda nice experience, but really wanted to try Freajia... and I did but I will write about it in another post.

BTW, I mentioned before a Strip Club I went with a friend in Namba. http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=634866 . It is Show Pub Hip (http://www.showpub-hip.com/). Prices are in the web site. As I said, it had really sexy girls, and if you go early maybe it is not so expensive. Gaijin Friendly. Could be a nice please to do a meeting of the usual mongers in this Thread.

Good luck!

[Lion]

The good is that despite identifying me as a non-native speaker they said they would send me the girl I requested. They said something about size is a worry, and that Europeans and Americans were OK (black Americans?).

The bad is that it took an hour for a callback, then half an hour for delivery. No FS, but fun anyway and managed 2 rounds.

Cost was 26,000/100min. Should have been 22,000 since I had a coupon. They said that since I requested the girl, the coupon was out and the name fee was in-although it turned out the girl only adopted the name I gave them and wasn't the same gal on the website. These covered up facial shots make it damn hard to tell.

She was about 19-20, with a killer bod with E cups and all sorts of tatoos.

One problem with these teens though is there is nothing to talk about during the recovery time. Makes me want to rethink my preferred age range.

[Azure Knight]

Lion,

I'm pretty much committed to the basic price now. I think that extra time just ends up being used for the girl's prep time and clean-up. As long as I can do what I came for in the allotted time, I'll stick with that.

Xslikx,

Probably wasn't me. I was there Wednesday night. Also, I wasn't wearing a suit or carrying a bag. Hey, who's the other brother lurking this board! Come out and say what's up.

Grassy Knoll,

Unfortunately, those prices are standard for us. Low, even. Mongering in Japan is just not cheap. The trade-off is that freebies are easier though, if you can manage it.

[Grassy Knoll]

I went to the Chinese Hoteru Grassy Knoll reported about last night.

His directions are very accurate, but me being an idiot I got a bit lost. I can provide a few more specific details though. Make sure you go through the East Mall of the Whitey underground shopping complex. Continue traveling through the East Mall until you get to an rounded open area with a water fountain in the middle. There are several exits here - you'll want to take the one that leads out to Ogimachi Street. I think it's either exit 11 or 14..

Azure Knight,

Your description of the place sounds very accurate along with the enthusiam of the girls, but I never left the ground floor so I'm not sure if it's the same. I forgot to mention that on the last night I visited, a 55+ white guy came when I was leaving and was greeted warmly so this place is definately gaijin-friendly. I'm back in HK now where comparable service, if you know where to look, is readily available half the price. I guess with being in Japan and drooling over all the outstanding tail on the street, I had to find some release.

Happy hunting,

GK

[Xslikx]

AK: Were you dressed in a dark gray or brown suit, carrying a black bag and coming toward the place from the direction of Nakazaki-chou? Probably not, but I was in that area last night as well and I don't see to many brothers in that neck of the woods.

[Lion]

I went to the Chinese Hoteru Grassy Knoll reported about last night.

"Can I come? You come too - let's come together okay?" On my way out I checked the time - certainly not 60 minutes, but that was fine - I'd had two showers, got off, and didn't feel rushed.

Overall - I like that this place is very accepting of foreigners, the girls aren't half-bad, and the prices are decent. Koko was terrible though.

Sounds typical of the Chinese places. They are all great actors, but you know at the end of the day they are there to get paid for the least amount of time possible.

Still, there are definately girls who do get into it, and when you find one it is well worth the reasonible 12,000!

I have been to a place that offered a longer course for 18,000. What I wonder is that if you are guarenteed 2 shots, and whether you'll still get the same rush out the door or not...

[Azure Knight]

I went to the Chinese Hoteru Grassy Knoll reported about last night.

His directions are very accurate, but me being an idiot I got a bit lost. I can provide a few more specific details though. Make sure you go through the East Mall of the Whitey underground shopping complex. Continue traveling through the East Mall until you get to an rounded open area with a water fountain in the middle. There are several exits here - you'll want to take the one that leads out to Ogimachi Street. I think it's either exit 11 or 14.

I caught the name of the place, but it's written in all kanji, so unless you speak Japanese or Chinese that doesn't really help you. It does say "Este 1F" in katakana though. After you turn left on the street across from the walled shrine, the building is on the right. Go in, and there's a little hallway/open space with an elevator. There's another hallway to the right of elevator, which leads to the reception area. I'm pretty sure it's one of, if not the only shop with a reception area on the ground floor, as the rest seem to be either in the basement, or on higher floors.

I came down the hall, and I spotted two guys, who were quick to welcome me in. If I get the welcome treatment with no hesistation, then I'm pretty sure any foreigner would. I hadn't even displayed any Japanese language ability yet. One guy lead me to a small couch, and pointed out the prices. I opted for the 60 min course for 12,000 yen. He came back with a board with pictures of the girls on it. All of them except for 2 were available, and he pointed out the ones that were ready to go immediately. I tried taking my time looking at the picture - read the reality behind the airbrushing and all. I notice that Ai is available - I was tempted to choose her given GK's positive review. After a minute or so, the guy asked if I wanted to look at the girls directly, so I agreed to that and he led me into the small little lobby-type area.

Well, the girls were VERY excited to see me, and there was really only one question on their minds - is he big? They were speaking in mixes of Japanese and Chinese, but even the Chinese parts I could tell that's where the conversation was headed. My male receptionist friend puts his hand on my crotch to try and determine what I'm packing. Hey, I most certainly didn't come here for that! I take a small step backwards and tell them that it's a little embarrassing, and of course I'm not packing any major heat at the moment. The girls now notice I can communicate in Japanese, which gets them even more worked up.

Of course, they didn't quite match the pictures, but there were still some decent looking women. Nothing that matches Tobita of course, but not at all bad. A few girls on the couch throw me occasional discreet smiles. One girl in the middle is very active, and very interested in my possible size. She gets up and asks me to my face how big, with finger gestures. With her so interseted, I ask if she'd like to see it in person. She says "is that okay?" and actually unzips my pants then and there are starts to feel around in there. Wow, I've never had this kind of thing happen in Japan before. The other girls say they want to see, and the girl liberally feeling around in my pants asks if it's okay to show everybody. Talk about having to perform under pressure! I again tell her that its embarrasing. The receptionist guy asks me to make my selection, so I pick the girl with her hand down my pants, hoping that her energy and interest here will carry over into the bedroom.

She takes me to the elevator, and we go up to the third floor. I ask for her name - she says it's Koko. She asks if she's really okay, because everyone always says she's the most scary. I tell her I think she's cute, and she tells me that I'm a "gentle man". The setup is exactly how GK described it. Koko lead me to one of the small partitioned rooms, and I noticed that there was another guy in the room next to us, but luckily he was finishing up. It didn't seem like there was anyone else there, so luckily I wasn't going to have to worry about my session being heard, or hearing anyone else's.

After the session, I layed face-down on the bed and Koko gave me a back massage. It was just okay. I'll give her credit for putting a little muscle into it, a lot of girls don't really do that. After a few minutes she had me roll over, and she started a BJ. She was very discreet about putting the condom on, so much so that I almost didn't notice. CBJ, but oh well, didn't come here for the BJ I guess. She stops at just enough for me to get hard, then she has us trade so that she's lying on her back. Rather than get right to it, I want to suck on her breasts, perhaps even DATY, but Koko pushes me down and away. She puts her legs up and crosses her arms in front of her body, which really doesn't let me do anything. With no other options, I get right to work.

Now, I've barely just started when Koko says "Oh, I'm gonna come. You come too. Let's come together." I dunno what kind of trigger-fingers she regularly deals with, but it's gonna take a little more than a few pumps to get me even close to coming. I tell her this, but after maybe a minute, she repeats - "Can I come? You come too - let's do it together." In fact, she said this at repeating 30 second intervals, and it was really quite annoying.

Koko kept her arms crossed in front of her body, and any attempts to kiss, lick, or suck anything were met with an arm block. She also reached down and grabbed my cock, sort of limiting how much was going into her. I wondered if I was too big for her, and asked if she was okay. She said she was fine, and that it felt good. And, of course, repeated her line - "Can I come? You come too - let's come together okay?" With the tiny room and the small single bed, positioning was difficult. Also, Koko kept her body in awkward positions, which wasn't sexy and a bit of a turn-off. Despite this, I powered through and managed to jizz.

Koko gave me a quick clean up with the tissues, and then lead me back to the showers. I noticed she wasn't quite as energetic/conversational as before. I wondered again if I had been too big for her - she'd made some interesting faces during the act. She again assured me she was fine. I sort of think she was lying about that though. After showering and cleaning up, she lead me back to the elevator. She thanked me for coming and asked me to come back again - the usual fare. On my way out I checked the time - certainly not 60 minutes, but that was fine - I'd had two showers, got off, and didn't feel rushed.

Overall - I like that this place is very accepting of foreigners, the girls aren't half-bad, and the prices are decent. Koko was terrible though. I'd like to go back and give it another shot, but definintely with another girl. Maybe I'll try out one of the girls who discreetly smiled at me from the couch. It'll be interesting to see how they react to me the second time - I wonder what Koko said about our session? Too big? Too much time? I'll find out next time.

[Saint Of Killers]

Grassy Knoll,

Thanks for the report! I've never ventured around that part of Umeda before but it sounds like I need to give 'er a go at least once! Were they apprehensive about servicing foreigners there at all?

[Drewtothedew2]

This place is fun if you like to look, which I don't. http://www.apollo-1bld.com/Tel_0120081181.html However, if you are drunk it is much better. We went for a birthday party last month, and we are going again tomorrow, so if you want to join us, let me know.

Last month we went to the fifth floor and got an all-you-can-drink, 2 hour for ¥7,000. We were trashed, and the second party at the Royal Host was, as my office's intern put it: "bowling shoe ugly".

Tomorrow we have another ¥7,000 all-you-can-drink, NO TIME LIMIT deal. I explained to the guy that we are some serious drinkers, and he said not to worry. Admittedly, they make their money on the dances. Plus the booze is god awful cheap.

Ciao for now,

Mak

Hi Mak,

Unlike you, I enjoy a good watch. Can you tell me more about this place/places? The booze is cheap, but they make it up in dances. Do you mean they expect a bunch of tips, or are you paying for lap dances?

Any and all info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Drew

[Azure Knight]

Thanks for the excellent report, Grassy Knoll! Sorry to hear that your Tobita experience wasn't that good - sometimes I guess its just luck of the draw.

I think you've sold me on the Chinese Hoteru. I'd like to give it a try myself, so your map will come in handy.

[Grassy Knoll]

After reading many posts on on this board, I decided to try Tobita on my first of 4 nights in Osaka. My dozo hit rate was about 30% at about 6 pm on a Saturday night. Some of the girls were indeed stunners but others had to be grandmothers. In one case the worker was no doubt older than the mamasan seated next to her display. This must be a Japan thing because I have never seen working girls that old. After walking around the entire district, I found young cutie. Her body was about a 6 and her face an 8. After she took me upstairs to the large tatami room, I noticed she was bit bruised on her legs and arms. I took a 30 minute session. I paid the girl directly but I don’t recall the exact price, but the prices were all listed on a menu. She wiped me off with a toilette sprayed with some disinfectant and then got down to business with a CBJ. She barely stroked my Johnson at all to make him firm enough for the condom. She started in a hurried manner and the entire session continue that that way. She wouldn’t let me do her doggie and she kept looking away from me the entire time. I was put off by the experience so that I finished up well before my 30 minutes expired. After we finished we tried to chat and she was very sweet but I speak no Japanese. This was not the best monger experience but what the heck, I wanted to try Tobita. I suppose I might have had better luck at one of the other shops, but I didn’t bother to go back.

On the second night in Osaka while walking in the Umeda area east of the Osaka railway station, a Taiwanese massage girl talked me into a message. She was young and cute but the services offered at the dimly lit place she took me only included massage. I took her up on it and she did the massage which was just OK. I asked her in Mandarin while she worked my back if there are any girls that could provide full service (zuo ai in Chinese). She said she could take me to such a place. After the massage she took me to place that folks on this board refer to as a Chinese hoteru on the ground floor of a building near a long covered arcade that extends several streets eastward from the Whitey underground mall east of the Osaka station and connected train stations in the Umeda area. If you know this arcade the hoteru is at the very end after the arcade turns into an open lane with similar establishments. I do not know the name of the place.

At any given time there are 6 to 10 girls working. You can see all of their photos on a menu and the girls who are working are indicated with an arrow. If there are not many customers all the girls sit on a sofa and you can inspect all of the ladies in the flesh at one time. The price is 12000 for 60 minutes of BBBJ and full serve. The first night I tried it I paid more than the 12000 but I was too drunk too figure out why I charged more. On my subsequent visits, I paid the 12000. The girls are all 7-9 and my first pick was a tall slim 9 from northeastern China but I don’t recall her name. The girls here are all Chinese but speak Japanese well enough. Don’t expect any to know English other than the obligatory " Oooh you big! "

The place consists of 2 or 3 large rooms that are sub-divided with thin dividers that are tall enough for visual privacy but do not reach the ceiling. As far as sound, you can here all the other sessions going on around you. Each larger room has 1 or 2 showers. The lady leads you first to you cubicle where you both undress. There’s a locker in each cubicle. The lady showers you and then back to the cubicle where she starts with a quick back massage, before going down for a some BB head for the first course and then the rest. My girl provided great service but I had way to muck to drink and couldn’t come, but not for lack of trying on the part of my girl. I went back the next night in much better condition and picked a girl named Ai, also from Northeastern China, but she normally lives in Guangzhou (no doubt working in the trade). We connected immediately. If you have never every sampled a Harbin girl, I highly recommend it. Ai was not tall but had a great body and an truly outstanding rack. Her BBBJ was fantastic and then we got down to it, but not before eating her delightful pussy. The experience was total GFE including DFK and eventually I did her in every conceivable position possible within the confines of a 2X3 meter cubicle. My favorite was turning perpendicular to the small bed and pounding her senseless while her head banged against the flimsy wall. She loved it and let out screams of joy. Although I never felt rushed she did inform me of the time about ten minutes before the 60 minutes were up so I took that as my cue to finfish up. I fished off French between here fabulous breasts and delivered my load all over here neck and shoulders but not on her face or in her mouth. I think CIM probably would be fine here but I didn’t try it. On the way to shower, she said I stretched her out so that now her pussy was not tight enough for the Japanese clientele. We had a good laugh.

The next and final night in Osaka, I went back to see Ai again. It was even better. I wish I had more time in Osaka. I would take her out. Alas, it was not to be. She works seven nights a week anyway. She did give me her phone number in Guangzhou. I live in Hong Kong so the next time I am there I’ll definitely hook up with her.

All in all, this place was a good experience in Japan. In Shinjuku, I have paid more than double to take Chinese hostess girls back to my hotel for a short time. These girls were just as pretty and for just over US$100 a pop, I think it was a pretty good deal for Japan.

Directions: The easiest way to find this place is to emerge from the Whitey underground shopping mall at the very east end from the NE exit and walk east along the major avenue. Pass a few blocks and you will come to a Lawson convenience store on the north side of this avenue which has a small parking area. Go left on the small street immediately before Lawson and walk until you see a small walled shrine on your right. Go left on to a small lane and the place is the ground floor establishment which pink colored signs. I have provided a map. Follow the red lines.

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[King Jack]

I am new to Osaka. All my previous mongering expereince has been in Shanghai, which is a fun city to be in.

I had done a walk around Tobita last week to see what is available and today decided to explore Matsushima Shinchi.

After reading some reports and searching the internet, I finally figured out where Matsushima is and off I went.

Found it alright. There are about 70-80 shops there. Half of them were open at 5 PM. The girls are not as young or beautiful as Tobita but with 20min for 10,000 yen and additional time for shower, its a good deal.

The call rate is not as high as Tobita either but I did get an invite from some couple of young beauties so plan to go there over the weekend again.

Dirctions - Take the chuo line to Kujo station and get out at exit 6. u see a mcdonald. take a u turn away from it and walk on the road for 2-3 mins till u reach hotel tropical, turn right and u are in Matsushima.

Map attached as reference.

KJ

[Azure Knight]

Crikey -

Yeah, I know. Honestly though, the women I experienced who were quite frosty, rarely offered up their email. If they did, the email kinda sorta matched their personas. With Mari, I was just surprised to find her to be quite cold in person, yet portray this energetic and sweet girl through the email. She's good.

Calbts -

A digital timer. That's a pretty good idea. I've never felt outright slighted on time before, but if I go back to Mari's shop again (unlikely) I'll probably take my digital watch with me and make a production of starting it.

Lion -

I wouldn't say Mari's got me. Quite the opposite, I don't think I'll be seeing her for awhile. My next trip out to Tobita will be to see Tomo. What brought me to Mari in the first place was the desire to score another hot girl from that main street, which I did (one more small victory for foreigners). Mission accomplished, so I can go back to Tomo.

Of the 4 different girls I've seen in Tobita so far, only with Mari have I felt slighted on time. Maybe I've just been really lucky so far, but I've never really felt slighted for time in general. In a few pink salons, I've finished early by my choosing, and had the girl remind me I still had time left if I wanted to utilize it. And I swear with Tomo we run way over time.

Maybe its different for other guys, but in my experience with pink salons/fashion health so far, FS doesn't even become an option unless you agree to pay for the most amount of time/the highest amount. As you said, of that hour you only get maybe 30-40 minutes of actual play time. So the way I see it, at Tobita you pay the same price for half the time, but on the plus side you get much, much better quality. Plus, there's usually less time wasting - the girl comes back from the bathroom trip (which usually isn't that long, this time being an exception) and gets right to work.

I'm a cheapskate, and I've never really been tempted to try the 40 mins or more courses at Tobita. But who knows, maybe one day...it seems like no one here has done it yet, might be interesting to see how/if it differs from the standard fare.