Kansai: Kobe-Osaka-Nara-Kyoto

[Lion]

Just got back from a recon stroll through Doyamacho. I got aggressively solicited by at least three places.

What kind of shops were they working for? Masaji I understand, but if they were HH or Pink Salons then that would be a new trend.

[Gaijin Otoko]

Are you talking about street walkers?

If you or anyone else has more info on the SW's in Doyamacho, I would love to hear it. Places where they can be found, the times when they are most present, what to look for, etc.

Sorry, not SW, but rather ladies hawking for their shops. I'm an obvious foreigner, and they were calling out "hello" openly and trying to get me in their shops. The "grabby" lady was a bit too much. I'm used to Nigerians in Kabukicho getting in my face, but not Japanese ladies. Had I not been already on my way to my favorite shop, I might have stopped and asked more questions.

[Gaijin Otoko]

I am sure that if I RTFF, I will find the answer, but if you have a minute, where is Doyamacho?

It's the covered shopping area that runs east of Umeda. The easiest access is to get to the Izumi no Hiroba in the Umeda underground shopping area, and take the M-6 Exit.

[Azure Knight]

Just got back from a recon stroll through Doyamacho. I am planning to visit my favorite place in there later today, but thought I would share my experience now. Even though it's 7 am on Sunday, I got aggressively solicited by at least three places. One lady even grabbed my arm. WTF! I've NEVER seen them this desperate. Seems like the hunting in Doyamacho is at an all-time peak.

Are you talking about street walkers?

I've passed through Doyamacho hundreds of times, including the Izumi no Hiroba. I can remember sometimes seeing girls loitering around at the Hiroba, but it never struck me to think that they might have been SW. Since you first mentioned it, I have been on the lookout for them but I've only seen two women who maybe might have been SW, but it was certainly nothing I would P4P for.

On the street, near the Tsutaya there's usually quite a number of girls about, but I always thought that they were there trying to pull guys into bars and clubs, and not SW. Most of the time they don't give me the time of day.

If you or anyone else has more info on the SW's in Doyamacho, I would love to hear it. Places where they can be found, the times when they are most present, what to look for, etc.

[Dreams]

Just got back from a recon stroll through Doyamacho. I am planning to visit my favorite place in there later today, but thought I would share my experience now. Even though it's 7 am on Sunday, I got aggressively solicited by at least three places. One lady even grabbed my arm. WTF! I've NEVER seen them this desperate. Seems like the hunting in Doyamacho is at an all-time peak.

I am sure that if I RTFF, I will find the answer, but if you have a minute, where is Doyamacho?

[Gaijin Otoko]

Just got back from a recon stroll through Doyamacho. I am planning to visit my favorite place in there later today, but thought I would share my experience now. Even though it's 7 am on Sunday, I got aggressively solicited by at least three places. One lady even grabbed my arm. WTF! I've NEVER seen them this desperate. Seems like the hunting in Doyamacho is at an all-time peak.

[K3936]

I was in Kyoto recently for a short stay with not much time to get out and about but thanks to the great info in this forum managed to have some fun. I was staying near the main train station but there didn’t seem to be anything going on around there (found one place that looked promising, Angels massage, but it seemed to be closed). Having just discovered this forum I took some hints and hopped the subway up to Shijo dori and walked along to Kiyamachi dori, the small street between Kawaramachi dori and the big river. I recognized the small canal at once from Google streetview. First time I found my way there was late afternoon and I explored the first two alleys north of Shijo dori as instructed but didn’t get any eye contact from the doormen, but then again I had a shopping bag and an umbrella and they might have thought I was just a dumb tourist who had taken a wrong turn. After further reading of the forum I went back the next evening to try to find club Pixie having read that it was gaijin friendly and no Japanese required. I walked into the first alley paper in hand and it was right there in front of me without even searching. I approached the doorman confidently, showed him my scrap of paper and asked in English if this was the place. He was a younger guy and friendly and replied in English that it was. I asked politely if it was possible for me to come in and he asked if I wanted to “play”. I said yes please and he showed me upstairs. He explained it was “blowjob only, no sex, OK?”, which I said was fine, and he gave me a menu as I took off my shoes. Not quite sure what to expect I took the short course for 8000 and was shown through a curtain into the seating area. It was a smallish room with about five benches arranged along one wall like church pews. I was shown to the first one by the door with my back to the wall and offered a drink (first one included in the price). There was one other J-guy in the far pew with his back to me being attended by a somewhat average looking girl. A quite chubby but very friendly girl came and sat with me and said her name was Mimi, or something like that. She tried to make small talk with a little bit of English but with my total lack of Japanese it didn’t last long and we resorted to hand signals and gesturing which made her giggle. She cuddled up and made friendly and started rubbing my thigh so I reciprocated and worked my hand up under her skirt to find her wearing no panties. She got me to attention and motioned for me to take off my pants. The pair at the other end of the room seemed to be doing their own thing so I went with the flow. She got the wipes out and cleaned me up and slipped on a condom while I gently rubbed her breasts, which were quite full and firm. She pulled her top down to give me free access and leaned across and began stroking and licking me. She positioned herself on the bench so she could go down on me while I could enjoy her breasts with one hand and work between her legs with the other. She seemed to like it as she spread her legs wider and got quite wet. She cupped my balls with one hand and started deep throating me expertly (lots of practice I guess), then slowed up as I approached bursting point and held me there with lots of licking and sucking around the tip. Then some more deep strokes while I rubbed faster on her trimmed pussy and she brought me off with a big climax that nearly filled the small condom. She seemed to be pleased with the result but the other couple didn’t pay any attention (thankfully), although the girl glanced over at one point maybe out of curiosity. She cleaned me up with more wipes and as there was still time left we cuddled some more and I gave her a little shoulder massage which she then returned. I could have gone another round but she indicated that only one pop was included with my menu choice. Unfortunately the J-guy started smoking at that point and then the doorman signaled time was up. We pulled our clothes back on and she gave me a moist paper towel to clean my hands. She gave me a hug and a kiss and passed me back through the curtain where the door guy handed me my shoes and showed me out. All in an enjoyable if somewhat bizarre experience, but something to check of the list of Japan attractions. Not sure if I would repeat, although other establishments in that area are said to offer full service so that might be worth a try. With a bit of time to kill I took the remains of my coke and wandered up the rest of Kiyamachi dori alongside the canal, which seems to have a lot of high-class looking places. Most had one or more guys on the door and nice looking girls trying to pull punters in. They uniformly blanked me so these mainstream places are clearly off limits to foreigners. I worked my way back down the smaller alleyways and once I got back to the Shijo end got a couple more approaches from doormen, including the one next door to club Pixie (that might be club Lovers?), who was quite vocal in inviting me in. The Pixie doorman recognized me and called to him in Japanese and they had some kind of joke and banter back and forth with the next door guy calling after me that he had better girls and try him first next time. I didn’t get a chance to go back but did get an afternoon in Osaka which I reported in another post. Thanks to the previous posters without whose tips I doubt I would ever have figured this place out!

[K3936]

had a couple of hours to spare so hopped the train from kyoto over to osaka and headed for umeda based on recommendations from this forum. i had directions to a place in toganocho that advertised a special on their web site for 1 hour massage that sounded good. i headed south from osaka station down the main road that is shown as 176 on google maps, crossed over at the lights where the mcdonalds is and kept going east on that street till i hit the next main road, 423. noticed a couple of promising places along the way but thought i’d stick to plan a. headed a couple of blocks east past 423 into the area labeled toganocho on the map, and 3 blocks north but could not find the place from the web site. i was pretty sure i had the right block and circled a couple of times but without success. i was about to backtrack to one of the other places i passed when i was approached by a middle aged tout who spoke to me in japanese but i’m pretty sure he used the word honban. i showed him the name of my place and mimed massage and he seemed to understand. he indicated to follow him and he seemed harmless enough so i tagged along half way down the block and into a building that obviously wasn’t the one i was looking for but i figured i’d check it out. he took me up to the fifth floor and to a door at the back that was opened by a small middle aged lady. they chatted briefly in japanese and i guess seeing i was a bit hesitant she invited me in saying in english “come in, very pretty girl , you be ok”. i went with it and my guide left us. i took a 1 hour session for 15000 and indeed the girl was very pretty, small and trim. i saw they had a shower and asked if i could use it since i had been walking a while and it was quite a warm day. i undressed and she quickly did likewise and escorted me to the shower for a good soapdown. she also washed herself and i saw that she had a really nice body, probably late 20’s but very firm and quite curvy. back to the small room and she produced a condom without any prompting. i asked if 2 times was ok and she went and fetched a second one so i guess she understood. she started with a fairly good massage of my neck, back and legs making sure to rub her naked self against me provocatively. on the flip i was clearly interested so the condom went on and she mounted cowgirl and rode me for a long time. she was really good, reaching behind to tickle my balls but keeping me just short of releasing for what seemed like forever. i was also really enjoying her very perky breasts in my face so i kept her up there. eventually she speeded up just enough to bring me to climax and then lay on top of me for a long time while we both got our breaths back. we lay for a while and i played with her some more and to my surprise she either came or did the best fake orgasm i have ever seen. this got me ready for round two but unfortunately the clock had run out. she tried to upsell me another hour but i didn’t have either the cash or the time. too bad because i would have liked to have tried some different positions for the second run. she showered us both again, dressed me and sent me off with a hug and a kiss. from her look she might have been chinese but she only spoke japanese to the mamasan.

on the way out i noted that the front of the building said “osakaya 58 ban-kan” on google streetview you can find it just north and east of hotel hokke club osaka. i don’t know if my experience is typical or if i just lucked out because it was a slow day (a weekday afternoon aroung 4 pm), but i would definitely recommend. there also seemed to be several other places in the building and in that general area. if anyone else has a similar result please post a report.

[K3936]

[QUOTE=Gentleman17]I am happy to report that safer sex is easily available to foreign visitors to Osaka (gaijin) in April, 2010, even those who speak no Japanese. Osaka's Tobita Shinchi brothel district is alive and well in 2010. Although this neighborhood is described as lower working class (and probably is), I felt completely safe there on a Saturday afternoon just before dusk, and on a Sunday at dusk and shortly after dark.

Thanks to Gentleman17 for this excellent report! I followed the directions and found all as he described. About four parallel streets of shops with the best looking girls near the center and some older, tubbier ones (though not bad really) around the edges. I did a couple of laps around and got quite a few calls, which was encouraging as I am middle aged, a bit overweight and conspicuously foreign. This was about 8 PM on a weekday and there were a few other J-guys around but no other foreigners. Where some of the mamasans called the girls were clearly not happy at the prospect, however several of the girls also smiled or waved as well. Some were dressed traditionally, some as office ladies or school-girlish, some a little bit anime looking. The overall quality and presentation was very high. On my third pass down one street I decided to try a pretty girl dressed as a nurse that had given me a big smile and the mamasan was quite eager for me to come in as well. I started to apologize for not speaking any japanese but it didn't seem to matter and I was shown up stairs after taking my shoes off but without any undue hurry as if they wanted me out of sight. I offered my pen and paper but they had a laminated menu so it wasn't necessary. I went for the 20 min course as I needed to get back, which I think was 16000. She took the money downstairs and came back with some tea and cookies. The room was clean with a Hello, kitty theme, a low table and a mat on the floor. Clothes came off quickly (though she kept the nurses hat on which was cute), she wiped herself down and then me then onto the mat. She was maybe late 20's but in quite good shape, a little padding which I don't mind and a decent rack. A little hand action to get the show started followed by brief CBJ then onto cowgirl, which she went at vigorously. At my signal she flipped over to missionary and I enjoyed making her all natural breasts bounce up and down. The fake high-pitched moaning was a bit distracting and I wondered if it was actually a signal to mamasan downstairs that the business was getting done. Finished doggy style with a few minutes to spare, cleaned up and cuddled for a bit. She served me the tea and gave me a calling card with her name, Hime, and a phone number (presumably the shop) as well as some flowers and another kitty. All very friendly. We dressed and I waited for her to give me the all clear before coming down. Mamasan gave me some candy and Hime gave me a hug and they both waved goodbye. All in all a good experience, if a little pricy. The area felt quite safe and not at all sleazy, very Japanese really. Traffic was picking up a little as I left with a few expensive cars cruising the narrow streets but most people on foot.

Being a recent hobbyist and having just discovered this forum I appreciate all the info here. I will post future reports as I am able.

[OldAsiaHand]

IMHO, Tobita is one of the best options for non-Japanese speaking mongers in Osaka. The selection is great and all can be negotiated with simple body language.

On a recent visit at around 7PM on a Tuesday, I was pleasantly surprised to find that my "dozo" rate was much higher than in previous visits. Even some of the hottest talent was willing to accept gaijin. This may be a result of the poor economy. For the first time, I had more acceptance than rejection.

Although 15 or 20 minutes go by pretty fast and the accomodation is basic, I have always been satisfied with the service.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Thruster]

The Club Piaget I wrote about is the one near the Hankyu Sannomiya station (there is a map here : http://www.ekiten.jp/shop_1094481/map.html ).

I went there a Tuesday around 4 pm so I guess it's really a hit or miss.

The question now is "is it worth another try or not?"

At 4k for about 20 min. it's up to you but the service was friendly and bbbjcim.

Whoa..... I've been through that area a million times and I never noticed the girls. I mean there are some chinese girls top side, but I've never noticed the other girls.

Out of curiosity, what's the best way to approach a girl? Also, what's the best way to pick them out from the crowd?

Concerning the Izumi Hiroba area, a couple may stand around the fountain itself. Also from the fountain there's an extension of the Whity walkway to the north of the fountain. A few of the women stroll this area and/or hang around the steps at the exits. You can tell who they are by their stare and excessive loitering.

As for the Picadilly Movie Theater right above (and out the SE exit from) Izumi Hiroba, the women stand/loiter right at the open entrance by the ticket windows. Also, at the open entrance on the other side of the elevators. Some stand right in front of the movie posters. Once again their excessive loitering and eye-contact make them obvious.

I usually ask "if they have some free time and want to go for a walk." I also tell them "I have some extra spending money." They usually negotiate prices from that point on. Usually about 10 k plus hotel. I've seen them both in the afternoons and evenings and sometimes not at all. I've had more hits in the evenings though. Good luck.

[Ben Bova]

He evryone

It is my first report on ISG even I have been checking for long on tokyo

Today I have use deli heru and no problem to order they ask me if I understand the system and my nationality the girl I choice and confirm she will go with gaijin and my second choice accept it.

Got 65mn 16000Y the girl show up was the one I choice but forget to tell me she was full of tatu.

20 years old very open to play BBBJCIM 2 time didn't rush to throw on tissu.

She as well told me if you speak japanese you must have no problem to get served.

I will not post the site to not blow it for the other but if you speak japanese and read a bit it is not difficult to find it on deriheru site open 24h.

Good luck

[Gaijin Otoko]

So a Q: to real experts; still, tsumaten, OK priceworthy, but if you cater for a young angel, are there any decent soaps in Osaka available for gaijins. Nihongo shaberu, so that is not the door stopper.

I don't know about soaplands, but have you tried Tobita? Some of the gals on display there are really nice, and definitely younger than the Freajia ladies. If you don't care where the girl is from, there are several Chinese Este that take foreigners. Also, if you can handle "deri-heru," you could try Secret Door.

Also, if you go back and search my handle, I found a gaijin-friendly soapland in Nara not too long ago, if you can handle a train ride.

There's a lot of stuff available. Of course if you do speak Japanese, you could just try going up to places and asking them at the door or asking those free information booths near Freajia/Tsumaten.

[Bijinnampa]

Felt needed a bit relief from work the other day, so tried former freajia, now Tsumaten.

So, interested in trying something different, opted for 3P with rara and fuuka. Quite enjoyable, rara is very charming. Still no FS, but enough fun anyway. Anyone has tried other combinations at that place.

So a Q: to real experts; still, tsumaten, OK priceworthy, but if you cater for a young angel, are there any decent soaps in Osaka available for gaijins. Nihongo shaberu, so that is not the door stopper.

[Zcorps]

If you're looking for street walkers, you might try Izumi Hiroba water fountain area in Umeda. It's in the Whity underground shopping arcade on the far east end. Quite a bit of haggarty women but an occasional honey will appear now and again.

Had a stunning young 5 ft. 2 in. girl w. nicely shaped racks walk by and made heavy eye-contact with me so we headed to the nearby LH. Turns out she's zainichi Korean who's married and trying to pay off some debts and needed some quick cash. A good CFS session for 10,000 plus 2k for room.

Just to add, right above Izumi Hiroba (southeast exit) is the Picadilly movie theater. Women occasionally stand in the entranceway there. Once again, it's a bit more miss than hits as far as quality is concerned. Good luck.

Whoa..... I've been through that area a million times and I never noticed the girls. I mean there are some chinese girls top side, but I've never noticed the other girls. Don't get me wrong. I'm not casting doubt on your report. I have in fact ran into a few working girls there, but at the time I didn't realize they were working. Now everything makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the info.

Out of curiosity, what's the best way to approach a girl? Also, what's the best way to pick them out from the crowd?

Thanks.