Tokyo

[Gaijin Otoko]

Hi guys,

I want to report terrible experience I had in Tokyo. I just fell for a yakuza scam.

Basically, I was mongering in Kabukicho tonight. I don't know why (maybe the Japanese naive is contagious) I gave the chance to one these guys that stay in the street "prospecting" clients. I paid him 20 k for a suppose FS, I was taken to a building. He hit the floor in elevator and let me in. Before I notice he disappeared with all of my money. Japan is no place to foreigners. Be aware.

I practically never go to Kabukicho. First, it's gentrifying at an amazing pace, meaning the sleaze factor is disappearing daily. Second, NEVER go with the touts. EVER. I know this has been covered many times here in the forum. Touts (who are usually Nigerian and are being horribly exploited themselves) are working for Yakuza. Contrary to all the dumb movies they like to make about themselves, most are honor-less scumbags who prey off of people who have a lapse of judgement or get themselves in a bind. They really don't like this information getting out because they have this self-image where they're the true heroes, but that's all bullshit. Itami Juzo showed them as incompetent buffoonish bullies, and they sent someone to slash his throat outside his apartment, because they're so brave they send a flunky with a giant knife to attack an unarmed man. (There's a good possibility that his later "suicide" was also staged by the Yakuza.) he got this because he showed their true face. Stay far away from them. Idiots like Jake Adelstein plagiarize shit from Japanese language weeklies by translating it into English and assuming no one can tell. He has "gravitas" because he worked for the Yomiuri Shimbun, but nobody reads what he wrote for the Yomiuri, which included ground-breaking probes into the heartbreak of athlete's foot. He was a nobody at Yomiuri, but he has that line on his resume, so western media outlets swallow his shit wholesale. Yakuza are honorless, thieving flim-flam men who are a parasite on society. Kabukicho is still run by them. Some are trying to go "legit" like Vegas went "legit" by turning illegal operations into legal, multinational corporations. Some Yakuza are trying to do that to Kabukicho, both to placate the politicians and they are slowly realizing that doing business in a legal manner can be much more profitable than working illegally. The gentrified Yakuza don't use touts. The presence of a tout is a sign of an old-school Yakuza somewhere in the business. The character of a business is determined by the character of its leadership. Old school Yakuza will rip you off all day long, and they'll use violence against those who stand up to them. No matter where you are, never follow a tout, but especially in Kabukicho. The "muryoannai-jo" (free information booths) are just centralized touts. You might get some crappy, over-priced service if you visit those places because they have a physical location and thus a vested interest in providing the minimum amount of service necessary to prevent complaints. But you'll do better reading this forum and using internet connections they recommend. Surprisingly, if there's a business for which there is demand and supply, if you make it illegal, the business doesn't go away, it just means the only people who work in it are those who don't give a fuck, metaphorically. No matter what, don't buy from a street pusher.

[Ovocru]

Hi guys,

I want to report terrible experience I had in Tokyo. I just fell for a yakuza scam.

Basically, I was mongering in Kabukicho tonight. I don't know why (maybe the Japanese naive is contagious) I gave the chance to one these guys that stay in the street "prospecting" clients. I paid him 20 k for a suppose FS, I was taken to a building. He hit the floor in elevator and let me in. Before I notice he disappeared with all of my money. Japan is no place to foreigners. Be aware.

[Deer1234]

You have posts here on ISG stretching all the way back to 2016 for United Kingdom, France, Turkey, Ukraine, and other places. You have asked many questions over and over again but have never written a single trip report. I'm not trying to troll or insult you or pick a fight. Just please consider writing trip reports to thank your fellow mongers who have given you help on this website in the past.

In addition, excessively beautiful photos in mamba are usually fake.

If the upper limit is 60 years or above, she dares to meet you for money.

Teen agers usually deceive you.

There are many advertisements from agencies. They request local currencies or send you a poster and hence easy to identify. They are bot very bad. Fairly good. 100 $ Per two hours. If you ask them to dispatch two or mote girls to compare, they may do so.

[Deer1234]

There are a few very well reviewed Caucasian girls who advertise on Tokyo Adult Guide. Both Simona and Alice in Wonderland stay really involved in the community and are super well reviewed. I don't believe either is Russian though.

Thank you very much for your reply. I will try to meet them.

[Deer1234]

You have posts here on ISG stretching all the way back to 2016 for United Kingdom, France, Turkey, Ukraine, and other places. You have asked many questions over and over again but have never written a single trip report. I'm not trying to troll or insult you or pick a fight. Just please consider writing trip reports to thank your fellow mongers who have given you help on this website in the past.

I agree with you. Sorry.

It seems to me that Kiev is the best place. I always use mamba to find a girl. I pay 400 $ or more per meeting, although in many cases 200 $ suffice.

Many of the girls whom you meet in Paris and Istanbul are from Ukraine. Flying to Kiev is less expensive and provides an opportunity to meet beautiful normal girls.

But many (30%) of the photos in mamba are either fake or an old photo taken many years ago. It is just a chance whether you meet a girl ora middle aged mother.

[Jakolero]

Last show was Tue, Apr 30.

Any info on why the shop closed?

And, where might the girls be working next.

My favorite girls there were Fuu, Milk, Megumi and Usagi.

[TokyoExpat]

Not sure if this will be helpful you guys but found this on another forum.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/vi...743172948&z=12

Shows you the general area where love hotels are located if you are keen on using one during your time in Tokyo.

Hasn't been updated since 2015 but love hotels cannot be newly made due to strict regulations thus the only things changed about the locations would be the names / management.

[Dick Travel]

Your experience and wisdom on hotels is much appreciated gentlemen. My vacation may be rescheduled to August now for business reasons but this is all helpful.

I may combine a cheap business hotel with some love hotel nights, the non pre booking flexibility on the latter being useful.

Thanks again, I shall be reading.

[AussieGaigin]

I recall reading a few years ago that love hotels would mainly only allow overnight stays after around 11 Pm, when there wouldn't be much short term activity going on.

Guess everything is negotiable though these days.

[Runon99]

I handled my accommodations and fun a little differently from what most of you are recommending; I used my regular hotels for sleep / etc. Only and went to love hotels for delivery health activities. This probably wasn't very cost effective compared with staying in a visitor-friendly hotel in Shinjuku, but using love hotels for short-time fun was part of the thrill for me.

I did notice, when searching on booking.com and other hotel sites that some places listed in Shibuya and Shinjuku were marked ADULTS ONLY, so these were most likely love hotels that also allowed longer stays or at minimum guest friendly. I guess one advantage to using a love hotel as your actual hotel would be that love hotels tend to have bigger rooms or at least bigger beds than standard hotels, and for sure bigger than standard business hotels.

One love hotel that I used was Hotel BaliAn Resort Shinjuku Island, and the lobby and front desk / check-in procedure was must more like a regular hotel than a love hotel, so I think it would work for both purposes.

[MichaelSamuel]

I looked into this before but it was difficult finding love hotel listings online for overnight stays or the price seemed prohibitive. Setting it up in person I expect would be much easier. Oddly in a NYT article on frugal travel he actually ended up in one by accident. Open to suggestions if anyone has them, from the naughty standpoint I think it would be fun to stay 2 nights in one in shinjuku.

You can do a long-term stay at many love hotels; simply ask when you get there or call in advance if you have the language skills. In fact, the few times I did it I was asked was I staying multiple days (I. E. , like a regular hotel) and if so, I would get a discount for extended stay. I've never stayed more than 24 hours at any one love hotel, but you have that option and need not worry about repeat booking. Just a thought, and good luck to you.

[AussieGaigin]

Hotel Fine Shinjuku is another short time hotel that has 24 HR rates (Y6000). "Not a business hotel or love hotel" but with hotel facilities.

I have met the owner in Sydney a couple of times; she has recently taken it over and renovated; from web site it looks quite respectable.

[Taipan68]

Thanks Taipan, the long term love hotel idea is an interesting back up idea, but I think I would prefer one place for the duration without repeat booking.

You can do a long-term stay at many love hotels; simply ask when you get there or call in advance if you have the language skills. In fact, the few times I did it I was asked was I staying multiple days (I. E. , like a regular hotel) and if so, I would get a discount for extended stay. I've never stayed more than 24 hours at any one love hotel, but you have that option and need not worry about repeat booking. Just a thought, and good luck to you.

[Mr Rossi]

Hi all.

I'm coming to Tokyo in a few weeks.

Apart from sight seeing, having read through chunks of the forum I am also hoping to enjoy THC / Paradise / a Pink Salon or two and a "delivery health" to a funky love hotel.

I'm overwhelmed by the shear volume of hotels on offer. Any recommendations? Preferably 3 maybe 4 star with breakfast. Close to Japanese and Western food options?

Convenient for access to the services we enjoy. Preferably not too noisy! I'm happy with automated check in etc and in fact it may be handy if I take a "delivery" to my room.

I have done a forum search but the results throw up hundreds of references to love "hotel" !

What areas would anyone suggest if not the most popular?

Thanks guys, repay you in reports!

For a traditional hotel I recommend the Shinjuku Granbell Hotel in Kabukicho. I found it quiet even if located in Tokyo's greatest red light district. The elevators do not have any security system and the configuration of the lobby allows the ladies to access the rooms unnoticed.

I had the pleasure to indulge in various deriheru activities here and I never had a problem.

[Dick Travel]

Thanks Taipan,

I have used airbnb quite a lot previously, but shyed away from it having heard of a 2017 law change (Minpaku law) in Japan which unfortunately due to complexity and backlog in landlords registration system caused many bookings being cancelled. However, a little research now tells me it should be fine providing an official registration number is quoted in the airbnb booking information, then you can be sure they are registered and it will most likely remain a solid booking. There are restrictions in some Tokyo areas though. More information. https://resources.realestate.co.jp/n...-need-to-know/.

The long term love hotel idea is an interesting back up idea, but I think I would prefer one place for the duration without repeat booking.

I also recommend you look into Air BnB options if you are adventurous. It's getting to be quite a popular service in Japan (especially the Tokyo area) and you can get a nice place for $70 - $80 per night sometimes (the same cost as many hotels). I stayed at a really nice (and spacious by Japanese standards) apartment in Shibuya near the love hotel area once. Made for easy acces to everything and no worries about bringing ladies back or using delivery health (if you can explain the address location). Check it out if you're comfortable with giving directions and getting your own meals and not relying on hotel food service.

And don't forget about "long-term" stay at a "nicer" love hotel. I've done that too and the stay even came with a Continental style breakfast. The cost was about $95, I was given a room key (which I was supposed to turn in every time I exited the hotel), and I had the place for a full 24 hrs.

Thanks Aussie, yes it might help to be booked as 2. Thanks.

Just another thought, many Japanese hotels have single bed rooms, and a double bed room costs more. If you are planning on bringing a girl back, make sure you have booked a double, and perhaps book as "Mr & Mrs DT".