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  1. #12453

    I'm so sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakaisuji  [View Original Post]
    And another observation. You can get robbed by a Chinese prostitute in your own country. Why meet one in a foreign country where you don't speak the language? Play it safe and stick to the shops that have been reviewed for years on this site and rocket reports. Just think of the trouble you would have if the girl took your wallet AND your pants....

    Don't worry Japan is safe. You can give your credit card # to any company on the internet that promises full service and you won't be threatened and have your money stolen. When Chinese tourism slows down the criminals operation illegal sex businesses will be looking to make up lost revenue. They will turn to crime and foreigners are easy prey.
    Your posts and warnings are very dramatic! It sounds like you've been traumatized by a delivery health session. Did one of these young Japanese girls steal your pants and your wallet? I'm sorry that happened! If you stick to JanJan you should be okay, those ladies don't ever send anyone out pantsless.

    For anyone else who read Mr. Sakaisuji's posts and was worried about giving your credit card number to a shady company, I have some good news. I used several delivery health shops on my most recent trip to Japan and a few others on previous trips, and not once did any of them ask for my credit card number. I paid for every session with cash. I think most of these shops DO have a policy to ask for your credit card number IF YOU WANT TO PAY WITH A CREDIT CARD. Otherwise, it never happened in my experience. Not sure what the deal is with all these dire warnings, but you should be fine if you use common sense. The advice that was given about not going with touts in the street in Kabukicho is good advice. The advice to not trust any delivery health shop is strange and outdated.

  2. #12452

    If only!

    Quote Originally Posted by KgirlPower  [View Original Post]
    Your blowing 300 to 400 every night! I can feed a family for a month with that!

    Well at least I can read about your escapades on my pc at my parent's basement and then jerk off since that's all I can afford.
    Tell that family to go on a diet and you can have a little more fun in Japan! No, I really didn't spend that much every night, and most of the currency I brought over was exchanged at around Y110-115 to the dollar. It was a special trip and I definitely splurged, just not quite as crazy as you think. But I would have included more juicy details in my reports if I'd known you were going to be reading them down in the basement. Next time you head down there, forget about my reports and go to your favorite JAV provider, there's a whole sub genre of Japanese porn that features delivery health scenarios. Being porn, of course, most of them end up with creampie sex, which we know in real life is against the rules. Just search deriheru or delivery.

  3. #12451

    Asian Mystique, THC

    Quote Originally Posted by KublaiKhan808  [View Original Post]
    Many delivery health agencies have girls who provide off menu items, however as the previous post stated, it's considered illegal in Japan. As most of these places are licensed, these services are not stated. If an agency were to find out there employees were offering off menu items, they would get into trouble. Therefore specific girls providing full service is rarely discussed on a public forum in Japan.

    I have had success with delivery health providers in the past in obtaining western style escort services from THC and other places. I have also been turned down FS as well. Besides THC, you could try Nasty Dolls or Asian Mystique. These are gaijin friendly delivery health agencies that have providers who offer FS. Usually FS requires an extra tip to make it worth it for these unnamed providers. Hint, the nastier stuff they offer on their menu items, the more likely you'll get FS.

    Soaplands are your best bet. I've gone to paradise inn at Kawasaki. It's a haul getting there, but well worth it. You can also try soaplands in Yoshiwara and various places in Shinjuku or Shibuya. It's best if you speak some Japanese to access those places. Some are gaijin friendly and some are not.

    When I visit Tokyo this summer, I fully intend to visit paradise in Kawasaki. They are gaijin friendly, none of their staff will turn you away, girls are very attractive, and in most soaplands, FS is a given due to a loophole in the law.

    If you want the delivery health option, use a love hotel, not yours. It's just more practica

    If you search the web you should find a load of resources to guide you. Good luck in Tokyo.
    Thanks for all the information. I confirm Asian Mystique girls go all the way. Maybe the better option, but last time I was in Tokyo they were "sold out" basically no acceptable girls available.

  4. #12450

    Fs thc

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    If you got FS with THC at no extra charge (assume you did not choose anal option) you got very very lucky. General wisdom is if you buy official anal at $200 you may get the holes mixed up at your option. But if you go totally freelance you are still likely to pay up to $200. I had a friend get it at $140. And one that said "up to you" but I think she must really like you. So I suppose it may depend on your mojo but I surely wouldn't count on Free.
    Thanks for the input. I did not pay for anal, I suppose just got lucky.

    If I have time will try her again and let you all know the outcome.

    My guess was as well you probably have better chance of FS happening if you choose a girl which offers anal.

  5. #12449
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    If you got FS with THC at no extra charge (assume you did not choose anal option) you got very very lucky. General wisdom is if you buy official anal at $200 you may get the holes mixed up at your option. But if you go totally freelance you are still likely to pay up to $200. I had a friend get it at $140. And one that said "up to you" but I think she must really like you. So I suppose it may depend on your mojo but I surely wouldn't count on Free.
    Is the $200 the total damage or is that just the anal?

  6. #12448

    FS is Not Free

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky88  [View Original Post]
    Heading to Japan end of Feb after a while. Last time did not have time to play.

    I posted about THC before, had some great experience with Emma a while back and she offered FS. No problem, no additional cost.

    Tried another gal later and no FS or only for a very high additional cost.

    My question, is does anyone have experience with other providers at THC which offer FS as a standard?

    BTW I never had any issues with hotels in Japan, but this time staying at a very small boutique hotel near Ginza, did anyone ever have issues with small hotels in Japan?

    Thanks.
    If you got FS with THC at no extra charge (assume you did not choose anal option) you got very very lucky. General wisdom is if you buy official anal at $200 you may get the holes mixed up at your option. But if you go totally freelance you are still likely to pay up to $200. I had a friend get it at $140. And one that said "up to you" but I think she must really like you. So I suppose it may depend on your mojo but I surely wouldn't count on Free.

  7. #12447

    Do japanese girls offer bareback with creampie as an option?

    I knew a korean ho working in Japan and she said korean agencies in Japan did allow or at least the korean girl did on her own allow japanese guys to come in their pussys. So was wondering if that's just a korean agency thing in Japan to better compete against japanese agencies or do japanese agencies do that also?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakaisuji  [View Original Post]
    Okayama massage.

    I should know better. But I was approached on the canal street by a good looking Taiwanese who said 30 min massage for 3,000. Sounded ok to me, so went up to the nearby shop. Then the upsell, oil massage 1,hour 10,000. I relented, and it was ok, but nothing amazing. At the 30 minute mark she said roll over and she started playing with junior and said 5,000 for HJ. I declined since I don't value HJ that much. I rolled back on my stomach and She continued the massage, no doubt disappointed not to have gotten more out of me.

    Lesson learned (hopefully).

    This poor guy didn't go to a licensed sex shop and he got scammed.

    You can get full service from a place like THC, but if it isn't licensed the girl doesn't take STD checks every month. So you pay a premium to get full service from a woman who might have an STD.

  8. #12446

    Japan is safe

    TOKYO (TR) – Another member of an extortion ring that targets men over the taking of illicit photographs has been arrested — and he seems to have gotten one victim twice, reports the Sankei Shimbun (Feb. 9).

    On February 6, Shinnosuke Soma accused a man, a company employee aged in his 30's and living in Saitama Prefecture, of taking tosatsu, or voyeur, photographs of the lower body of a woman at JR Ikebukuro Station in Toshima Ward.

    "Due to emotional distress, it will be necessary for you to cover medical bills of 95 million yen," the suspect told the victim in allegedly extorting him.

    That same day, a clerk at a bank tipped off police after noticing the victim behaving suspiciously as he attempted to withdraw 30 million yen from his account.

    Two days later, officers apprehended Soma when he went to meet the victim near Nerima-Takanodai Station on the Seibu Ikebukuro Line.

    "I did it to cover living expenses," Soma was quoted by the Ikebukuro Police Station in admitting to charges of attempted extortion.

    According to police, Soma is believed to have pulled the same ruse on the same victim at the same railway station in June of last year. In that case, he swindled him out of 7. 5 million yen in cash, a crime that is under investigation.

    Over the past year, police have arrested several other members of the ring for the same crime, which often takes place at JR Ikebukuro Station. Law enforcement has labelled the ring as the "Tosatsu Hunters. ".

    Don't worry Japan is safe. You can give your credit card # to any company on the internet that promises full service and you won't be threatened and have your money stolen. When Chinese tourism slows down the criminals operation illegal sex businesses will be looking to make up lost revenue. They will turn to crime and foreigners are easy prey.

  9. #12445
    Quote Originally Posted by KublaiKhan808  [View Original Post]
    Many delivery health agencies have girls who provide off menu items, however as the previous post stated, it's considered illegal in Japan. As most of these places are licensed, these services are not stated. If an agency were to find out there employees were offering off menu items, they would get into trouble. Therefore specific girls providing full service is rarely discussed on a public forum in Japan.

    I have had success with delivery health providers in the past in obtaining western style escort services from THC and other places. I have also been turned down FS as well. Besides THC, you could try Nasty Dolls or Asian Mystique. These are gaijin friendly delivery health agencies that have providers who offer FS. Usually FS requires an extra tip to make it worth it for these unnamed providers. Hint, the nastier stuff they offer on their menu items, the more likely you'll get FS.

    Soaplands are your best bet. I've gone to paradise inn at Kawasaki. It's a haul getting there, but well worth it. You can also try soaplands in Yoshiwara and various places in Shinjuku or Shibuya. It's best if you speak some Japanese to access those places. Some are gaijin friendly and some are not..
    What's your opinion between a soapland or Nasty Dolls? Nasty dolls seem on the pricier side then the other poster here I replied to. I checked on their website and it wasn't clear on the "nastier" things on there. The only nasty option I can see is anal which seems to be the only option aside from 3 some. Is there negotiation on a soapland if I somehow find someone foreigner friendly?

  10. #12444
    Quote Originally Posted by Runon99  [View Original Post]
    1. You should go back to my detailed reports to see what I paid, but the prices listed on the shops' websites in the "System" section are accurate. I probably paid an extra Y2,000 each time as a nomination fee, which is listed on the site but hard to read because they show a lot of the price info as a graphic (as opposed to text) so it doesn't get translated by Google.

    2. The phone operator speaks minimal English but it was enough to accurately complete the booking each time. It helps a lot for you to speak very slowly and clearly and be patient -- they might put you on hold a few times during the conversation.

    3. The services were all legit in my case, but I didn't request anything exotic. If you click on the "System" section and scroll down past the box with the basic prices, you'll see the standard services under "PLAY INFO" -- but again this box shows up as a graphic so Google Translate doesn't help, at least on my PC. Below that is the "OPTION" list, these are the extra services that might be available for an extra charge. Not all girls offer all the services, so it really depends on the specific girl.
    Thanks, you have been helpful. I have too many options but no experience. I had a few more questions.

    1. I assume these are outcall to my hotel or to a love hotel?

    2. Would you say the older (MILF) types are more likely to do the freakier stuff? Nothing too crazy, but besides cum swallowing, I am thinking anal. I know it's hard to say, but just wondering if I should bother.

    3. For the upcharge, can I find this somewhere on the website? Say if I use translate when I meet the girl, can I negotiate before to see if the girl wants to do what I want?

  11. #12443
    Okayama massage.

    I should know better. But I was approached on the canal street by a good looking Taiwanese who said 30 min massage for 3,000. Sounded ok to me, so went up to the nearby shop. Then the upsell, oil massage 1,hour 10,000. I relented, and it was ok, but nothing amazing. At the 30 minute mark she said roll over and she started playing with junior and said 5,000 for HJ. I declined since I don't value HJ that much. I rolled back on my stomach and She continued the massage, no doubt disappointed not to have gotten more out of me.

    Lesson learned (hopefully).

    This poor guy didn't go to a licensed sex shop and he got scammed.

    You can get full service from a place like THC, but if it isn't licensed the girl doesn't take STD checks every month. So you pay a premium to get full service from a woman who might have an STD.

  12. #12442
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky88  [View Original Post]
    Heading to Japan end of Feb after a while. Last time did not have time to play.

    I posted about THC before, had some great experience with Emma a while back and she offered FS. No problem, no additional cost.

    Tried another gal later and no FS or only for a very high additional cost.

    My question, is does anyone have experience with other providers at THC which offer FS as a standard?

    BTW I never had any issues with hotels in Japan, but this time staying at a very small boutique hotel near Ginza, did anyone ever have issues with small hotels in Japan?

    Thanks.
    Most if not all the diamond level girls do full service as THC rank the girls according to customer retention (repeat clients) / extensions (who would repeat or extend a session if not FS was on the table?).

  13. #12441
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky88  [View Original Post]
    Heading to Japan end of Feb after a while. Last time did not have time to play.

    I posted about THC before, had some great experience with Emma a while back and she offered FS. No problem, no additional cost.

    Tried another gal later and no FS or only for a very high additional cost.

    My question, is does anyone have experience with other providers at THC which offer FS as a standard?

    BTW I never had any issues with hotels in Japan, but this time staying at a very small boutique hotel near Ginza, did anyone ever have issues with small hotels in Japan?

    Thanks.
    Many delivery health agencies have girls who provide off menu items, however as the previous post stated, it's considered illegal in Japan. As most of these places are licensed, these services are not stated. If an agency were to find out there employees were offering off menu items, they would get into trouble. Therefore specific girls providing full service is rarely discussed on a public forum in Japan.

    I have had success with delivery health providers in the past in obtaining western style escort services from THC and other places. I have also been turned down FS as well. Besides THC, you could try Nasty Dolls or Asian Mystique. These are gaijin friendly delivery health agencies that have providers who offer FS. Usually FS requires an extra tip to make it worth it for these unnamed providers. Hint, the nastier stuff they offer on their menu items, the more likely you'll get FS.

    Soaplands are your best bet. I've gone to paradise inn at Kawasaki. It's a haul getting there, but well worth it. You can also try soaplands in Yoshiwara and various places in Shinjuku or Shibuya. It's best if you speak some Japanese to access those places. Some are gaijin friendly and some are not.

    When I visit Tokyo this summer, I fully intend to visit paradise in Kawasaki. They are gaijin friendly, none of their staff will turn you away, girls are very attractive, and in most soaplands, FS is a given due to a loophole in the law.

    If you want the delivery health option, use a love hotel, not yours. It's just more practical.

    If you search the web you should find a load of resources to guide you. Good luck in Tokyo.

  14. #12440
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky88  [View Original Post]
    Heading to Japan end of Feb after a while. Last time did not have time to play.

    I posted about THC before, had some great experience with Emma a while back and she offered FS. No problem, no additional cost.

    Tried another gal later and no FS or only for a very high additional cost.

    My question, is does anyone have experience with other providers at THC which offer FS as a standard?

    BTW I never had any issues with hotels in Japan, but this time staying at a very small boutique hotel near Ginza, did anyone ever have issues with small hotels in Japan?

    Thanks.
    Full service is illegal at unlicensed shops. You are far safer going to a soapland or a brothel area where it is legal. You are taking a risk of robbed or extorted by gangsters or shop staff when you use an unlicensed company that offers full service. It is a crime and the company is run by criminals. Stay away!!

  15. #12439

    An example what you get with delivery services or net companies

    When it comes to deflation in Japan, possibly the most inexplicable indicator is the price for prostitution — as in, how low can you go?

    But, according to Shukan Bunshun (Feb. 5), the recent bust of a budget "delivery health" health chain that is alleged to have dispatched female employees to love hotels and rental rooms to engage in full sex (honban) was due to a fall in something else entirely: business morals.

    On January 17 and 18, Tokyo Metropolitan Police took Koji Yoshida, 61, the president of chain Sankyu Group, and 20 others into custody for violating the Anti-Prostitution Law at six locations in Tokyo.

    The 65 outlets within the group specialize in low fees, and, with an annual turnover averages 400 million yen per year, it is a successful business model.

    "They undercut the competition, which charges around 10,000 yen for the first hour, with a starting price of 3,900 yen for 30 minutes," says a reporter covering the police beat.

    The typical delivery health outlet provides erotic services as dispensed by the mouth and hand of a masseuse — meaning one step short of honban.

    "But the Sankyu group was discovered to have been allowing prostitution," continues the writer.

    Considering rumors had previously abounded about the practice, this was not the main issue in the eyes of the police. Rather, the bust was an outcome of the group's pursuit of rapid expansion.

    An industry insider tells Shukan Bunshun that an initial outlay of 3,900 yen means roughly 1,900 yen will go to the masseuse, which is hardly a reasonable wage.

    "So instead of providing full sex, the girl would often coax the customer into the (more expensive) one-hour plan," says the insider. "This raised the average per-customer take, which allowed the group to recruit a lot female employees during a struggling economy. ".

    It was here, however, that the Sankyu Group overstepped its bounds, an investigator tells the magazine.

    A branch of the Sankyu Group in Uguisudani, Tokyo recruits female employees via Line.

    "Complaints came in from customers who said that the dispatched girls did not match the photos on the Web site," says the investigator. "With low pricing, customers will expect a proportionate level of service. But in these cases it was not even close. ".

    The investigator says that 90 percent of the girls who apply for employment at Sankyu Group outlets are accepted. "On Internet bulletin boards, there have been a lot of angry users," says the source.

    Perhaps ironically, outlets in the Sankyu Group had received a stamp of approval from a certification association for businesses in the fuzoku industry that was formed last year to combat such injustices.

    "It was Yoshida who founded the association," says the investigator, referring to the Sankyu Group president now in custody.

    Shukan Bunshun notes that Yoshida and 17 other suspects have denied the charges against them. (K. And.).

    Source: "Zenkoku tenkai no gekiyasu deriheru ga tekihatsu tansho wa 'shashin to chigau' no kyaku no koe" Shukan Bunshun (Feb. 5, page 49).

    For the Japanese customer they offer cheap service and for the foreigner it is the beautiful young girl and the "foreigner charge". But the method of cheating the customer is the same. They can charge a foreigner 20,000 to 40,000 for something a Japanese would pay less than 10,000 for. But at least the Japanese can call the police when cheated or robbed.

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