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  1. #12462

    Agree 100%

    Quote Originally Posted by RafaelX12  [View Original Post]
    I said it before and its been said also by other people. Once you can speak the language at least at a basic / conversation level your options go 100 x way up. If you do that, you'll be able to find a ton of AF services without a problem. Tokyo is the damn pervert capital of Asia, name your poison, and you can find it.
    Totally agree. A girl I know generally likes to go with Gaijin. But when she worked at another shop for a while for a while she had many Japanese customers and her summary was "they are so perverted". LOL.

    AF is considered tame for sure. If you go on the THC site you can click the checkbox filter for Anal Fuck and it will list only the girls that offer it.

  2. #12461
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtraveller  [View Original Post]
    Hello VerticalSmile. Looking through your posts and questions it looks like you are looking for girls doing "nasty stuff" and anal. Please apologize but if these are you priorities, Tokyo is probably not the right place to monger. Japanese have a different idea of "kinky" and "nasty" - Anal is one of the rarest serviced on offer here.

    Without speaking Japanese your options are somewhat limited anyway. "Off menu" services will be more expensive than elsewhere and Japanese culture has it's peculiarities. You cannot negotiate with the girls, you cannot be pushy. I'm also a bit worried by your negative feedback on Asianmystique, without giving us the name of the girls BTW. , as Asianmystique is usually one of the safest options. You can surely get all kinds of service and young girls with the right budget (an idea how much you are willing to pay would also help) in Tokyo, but nasty, young, Japanese, good looking will be hard to come by if you don't speak the language.

    The few safe options for FS are listed throughout the forum. Soaplands won't offer the nasty stuff you want, nor most girls at Asianmystique or THC. Please set your priorities, expectation and budget clearly in your posts and when you consider mongering again in Tokyo, otherwise it will be disappointing.
    I have only did Asianmystique once and the girl I saw was Rio. The service was pretty standard like I get here in the states. She was just bigger than what I would of liked. The entire experience wasn't BAD, just wanted a little better looking girl. Since the pictures are washed out / older I wasn't sure what to expect. I'll adjust my expectations far lower because I haven't had enough experience going there and doing any services other than that one outcall once. I think I should expect just normal service since I don't speak Japanese. Thanks for letting me know. I might pass on going unless I learn Japanese. Seems the stuff I want you either be a regular and have to speak.

  3. #12460

    Misinformation.

    I said it before and its been said also by other people. Once you can speak the language at least at a basic / conversation level your options go 100 x way up. If you do that, you'll be able to find a ton of AF services without a problem. Tokyo is the damn pervert capital of Asia, name your poison, and you can find it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mtraveller  [View Original Post]
    Hello VerticalSmile. Looking through your posts and questions it looks like you are looking for girls doing "nasty stuff" and anal. Please apologize but if these are you priorities, Tokyo is probably not the right place to monger. Japanese have a different idea of "kinky" and "nasty" - Anal is one of the rarest serviced on offer here.

    Without speaking Japanese your options are somewhat limited anyway. "Off menu" services will be more expensive than elsewhere and Japanese culture has it's peculiarities. You cannot negotiate with the girls, you cannot be pushy. I'm also a bit worried by your negative feedback on Asianmystique, without giving us the name of the girls BTW. , as Asianmystique is usually one of the safest options. You can surely get all kinds of service and young girls with the right budget (an idea how much you are willing to pay would also help) in Tokyo, but nasty, young, Japanese, good looking will be hard to come by if you don't speak the language.

    The few safe options for FS are listed throughout the forum. Soaplands won't offer the nasty stuff you want, nor most girls at Asianmystique or THC. Please set your priorities, expectation and budget clearly in your posts and when you consider mongering again in Tokyo, otherwise it will be disappointing.

  4. #12459

    Don't look for nasty stuff in Tokyo

    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    I am intrigued by your post of Milky Baby so I did a look into them. Seems like they are a bit intrusive about wanting info and keeping it on file to see a girl. Their service looks interesting but I only have 1+ year old reviews from TAG to go on that none of them seemed to have done full service. Seems most offer AF but an undisclosed additional fee, but looking for all three holes access. I guess the milking thing is the major attraction only? I just rather try my luck in boning a pregnant girl than drinking one's milk to be honest. I also forgot to ask you about full service. I know that it's technically illegal for any vaginal penetration and it still happens, but my concern is that thing where they get you between their legs to "simulate" intercourse but there is no actual penetration involved. Would you say FS is more likely, if not guaranteed at the foreigner friendly places like AsianMysique or Nasty Dolls? It seems that to have a good chance of having a great time, it's YMMV because of too many variables involved from the girl you see, the day and time you went, your expectations, and yourself as a person and the girl's reaction to that. I know speaking the Japanese increases your chance ten fold, but unfortunately, I don't speak any so I have to go on what I can get.
    Hello VerticalSmile. Looking through your posts and questions it looks like you are looking for girls doing "nasty stuff" and anal. Please apologize but if these are you priorities, Tokyo is probably not the right place to monger. Japanese have a different idea of "kinky" and "nasty" - Anal is one of the rarest serviced on offer here.

    Without speaking Japanese your options are somewhat limited anyway. "Off menu" services will be more expensive than elsewhere and Japanese culture has it's peculiarities. You cannot negotiate with the girls, you cannot be pushy. I'm also a bit worried by your negative feedback on Asianmystique, without giving us the name of the girls BTW. , as Asianmystique is usually one of the safest options. You can surely get all kinds of service and young girls with the right budget (an idea how much you are willing to pay would also help) in Tokyo, but nasty, young, Japanese, good looking will be hard to come by if you don't speak the language.

    The few safe options for FS are listed throughout the forum. Soaplands won't offer the nasty stuff you want, nor most girls at Asianmystique or THC. Please set your priorities, expectation and budget clearly in your posts and when you consider mongering again in Tokyo, otherwise it will be disappointing.

  5. #12458
    Quote Originally Posted by Runon99  [View Original Post]
    When I posted my trip reports, I expected a few kudos and a few follow-up questions, but I must admit I didn't imagine that I would be trolled by someone with reading comprehension issues and some mystery agenda against any shop that wasn't mentioned on this board at least 10 years ago. But here we are.

    I don't mind most of your comments, they're pretty funny. The part where you falsely accuse me of being deceptive is less funny, however.

    Once again, I think I used 7 or 8 different delivery health shops in Tokyo and Osaka last October / November and I didn't give my credit card number to any of them, nor did they ask. They didn't hold my credit card number; they never had my credit card number. There are thousands of different delivery health places in Japan -- maybe some of them do ask for credit card numbers. I have no idea! All I know is that none of the ones that I used did. Also, none of the girls stole my pants or my wallet. One delivery health girl who gave me an off-menu service item even tried to refuse the tip that we had agreed upon. I insisted she take it.

    The unintentionally ironic aspect to Mr. Sakaisuji's rants against unlicensed shops and his plea that folks only frequent established shops that have been reviewed is that 1) all the delivery health shops I used are licensed and 2) I found about about most of them from reviews I read here, rockitreports, TAG, TNS, etc.
    I am intrigued by your post of Milky Baby so I did a look into them. Seems like they are a bit intrusive about wanting info and keeping it on file to see a girl. Their service looks interesting but I only have 1+ year old reviews from TAG to go on that none of them seemed to have done full service. Seems most offer AF but an undisclosed additional fee, but looking for all three holes access. I guess the milking thing is the major attraction only? I just rather try my luck in boning a pregnant girl than drinking one's milk to be honest. I also forgot to ask you about full service. I know that it's technically illegal for any vaginal penetration and it still happens, but my concern is that thing where they get you between their legs to "simulate" intercourse but there is no actual penetration involved. Would you say FS is more likely, if not guaranteed at the foreigner friendly places like AsianMysique or Nasty Dolls? It seems that to have a good chance of having a great time, it's YMMV because of too many variables involved from the girl you see, the day and time you went, your expectations, and yourself as a person and the girl's reaction to that. I know speaking the Japanese increases your chance ten fold, but unfortunately, I don't speak any so I have to go on what I can get.

  6. #12457

    Kudos to Runon99 and a report

    Quote Originally Posted by Runon99  [View Original Post]
    When I posted my trip reports, I expected a few kudos and a few follow-up questions, but I must admit I didn't imagine that I would be trolled by someone with reading comprehension issues and some mystery agenda against any shop that wasn't mentioned on this board at least 10 years ago. But here we are.
    Kudos to Runon99. Please ignore Saikaisuji, not only is he misjudging the industry in Japan but is also racist (bickering about Chinese girls stealing) and misinformed about how the sex industry works.

    To all others reading this, girls in this industry, anywhere in the world, are less likely to rob you in your Hotel room than a random freeby pickup. The girls and the shop do not want trouble with the police as any hint of stealing or violence would mean immediate shutdown of their business by the police. As paradoxical as it my sound, if the shop is run by the Yakuza it will be the safest service you can get. You may overpay and get ripped of, but violence and vulgar robbery is not tolerated by the Yakuza. I have personally acted on this rule in many a strange place in the world and never ever was getting anywhere near a dangerous situation. I have never heard any credible stories of "professionals" stealing from customer in straight way. Oh, and this includes many Chinese girls. They are dead honest. You can safely bring girls from any delivery health back into (almost) any Hotel. Should the girl give trouble they will help the guest. The long time staff in Japanese Tokyo Hotels 3 star or 5 star has seen it all, nothing will surprise them.

    Report: I used Hipness 2 times this week. The girl was of the chubbierty type, which is what I wanted, and the service left nothing to be wished for. She is now going back to Thailand so recommendations do not matter. There is also no "signing paperwork" right now and no indoctrination, but his maybe because I speak Japanese reasonable fluently. The girls at hipness are certainly not the prettiest, but reliable and good Thai service is provided. One minor correction to Runon99. Hipness will answer foreign numbers and will service you. Step 1) Call and ask if the girl has time now or in one hour. Leave your name. Step 2) Check into the Love Hotel and call from the room again to call the girl in.

  7. #12456
    When I posted my trip reports, I expected a few kudos and a few follow-up questions, but I must admit I didn't imagine that I would be trolled by someone with reading comprehension issues and some mystery agenda against any shop that wasn't mentioned on this board at least 10 years ago. But here we are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakaisuji  [View Original Post]
    Runnon doesn't like my comments. That is ok, but he is being deceptive when he says the delivery health give you an option to pay with your credit card. They do, but they take the number and hold it until you pay. They still have the number after you pay and they can charge you whatever they want. And there is nothing you can do about it.

    Legitimate shops with business licenses are fun and safe. Don't fool around with unlicensed web or delivery health. They are run by criminals and the workers don't take the mandatory STD checks.
    I don't mind most of your comments, they're pretty funny. The part where you falsely accuse me of being deceptive is less funny, however.

    Once again, I think I used 7 or 8 different delivery health shops in Tokyo and Osaka last October / November and I didn't give my credit card number to any of them, nor did they ask. They didn't hold my credit card number; they never had my credit card number. There are thousands of different delivery health places in Japan -- maybe some of them do ask for credit card numbers. I have no idea! All I know is that none of the ones that I used did. Also, none of the girls stole my pants or my wallet. One delivery health girl who gave me an off-menu service item even tried to refuse the tip that we had agreed upon. I insisted she take it.

    The unintentionally ironic aspect to Mr. Sakaisuji's rants against unlicensed shops and his plea that folks only frequent established shops that have been reviewed is that 1) all the delivery health shops I used are licensed and 2) I found about about most of them from reviews I read here, rockitreports, TAG, TNS, etc.

  8. #12455

    Sex industry-gangsters and the cops

    TOKYO (TR) – Tokyo Metropolitan Police have arrested a member of a yakuza criminal syndicate who established an office in Nakano Ward that is too close to a school than what is allowed by law, reports the Asahi Shimbun (Feb. 13).

    In November of last year, Shigeru Matsushima, a 40-year-old member of the Sumiyoshi-kai, worked with other gang members in covertly establishing the office on the premises of a former okonomiyaki pancake shop located about 60 meters from a middle school in the Yayoicho area.

    As mandated by a Tokyo Metropolitan Government ordinance, it is prohibited for a boryokudan (criminal syndicate) to have an office within 200 meters of a nursery or elementary school.

    According to police, the office is located on the first floor of three-floor residence. In making the conversion, the gang removed the hot plate, carried out other remodeling work and purchased furniture at a total cost of about 700,000 yen.

    Matsushima has declined to comment on the allegations, police said.

    Matsushima is a former adult video (AV) director who worked under the name Matsushima Cross. He is also a former upper-lever member of bosozoku biker gang Kanto Rengo.

    The arrest is at least the third for Matsushima. In January, police also arrested him over the alleged extortion of a male AV star in 2016. Two months later, police accused him of extorting the president of a talent agency.

    Last year, police arrested several gang members for establishing offices too close to schools in Nakano Ward and the Kabukicho red-light district of Shinjuku Ward.

    This brief article doesn't really mention the sex industry. But it makes it very clear that if gangs open offices then the police know where to find them. So if you have trouble at a sex shop then you have trouble with the police. They are basically on the same side.

    Don't bring a girl back to your regular hotel!! What will you do if she steals something, damages the room, locks you out or has her gangster friends return to blackmail you?

    Do you really want to get in an argument about spit and swallow with a prostitute in your hotel room and have her leave accusing you of not paying her properly? She will come back with "friends". Japan is a safe place for a tourist, but it isn't safe for someone picking up prostitutes from web sites, off the street or from touts promising a porn star experience with an 18 year old beauty.

    Runnon doesn't like my comments. That is ok, but he is being deceptive when he says the delivery health give you an option to pay with your credit card. They do, but they take the number and hold it until you pay. They still have the number after you pay and they can charge you whatever they want. And there is nothing you can do about it.

    Legitimate shops with business licenses are fun and safe. Don't fool around with unlicensed web or delivery health. They are run by criminals and the workers don't take the mandatory STD checks.

  9. #12454
    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    Thanks, you have been helpful. I have too many options but no experience. I had a few more questions.

    1. I assume these are outcall to my hotel or to a love hotel?

    2. Would you say the older (MILF) types are more likely to do the freakier stuff? Nothing too crazy, but besides cum swallowing, I am thinking anal. I know it's hard to say, but just wondering if I should bother.

    3. For the upcharge, can I find this somewhere on the website? Say if I use translate when I meet the girl, can I negotiate before to see if the girl wants to do what I want?
    1. Delivery Health is all outcall -- hence the "delivery" -- and I used love hotels for all of the sessions I described. Regular hotels can work too if they allow visitors.

    2. Probably yes, but some of the younger ones will too, it just depends on the specific girl. For the shops we're discussing (as well as THC and most other "health" shops), each girl's page lists the acts she performs. A good number say they do anal, but your guess is as good as mine whether they truly do that or if saying they'll do it is just code for them doing regular FS. There's a shop called Milky Baby which specializes in pregnant / lactating women. From a couple reviews I read, the ones who say they do anal really will do anal. Maybe all the girls at all the shops who say they'll do anal will really do it. It's legal, after all.

    3. All the fees are on the websites but, again, the part that shows the extra options and fees doesn't translate on my Chrome browser -- maybe you'd have better results with another browser? No idea. But the workaround to see what the extra options are would be to look at a particular girl's profile -- such as this one: https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A13...-8600048/?of=y -- and all the things listed under "Available Play" are the standard services and those listed under "Available Option" are the extras. A circle after the option means she does it and an X means she doesn't. This doesn't tell you the prices of each option, you'll have to ask the shop when you call.

    I would NOT suggest trying to negotiate for extra options with the girl (unless it's for something they obviously can't list: FS), just tell them the options you want when you make the reservation. If the girl's profile says she doesn't allow cum swallowing or anal, she might not appreciate you asking for them during the session. You can ask the shop which girls are available who DO allow the things you want if you don't want to search every girl's profile for them.

  10. #12453

    I'm so sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakaisuji  [View Original Post]
    And another observation. You can get robbed by a Chinese prostitute in your own country. Why meet one in a foreign country where you don't speak the language? Play it safe and stick to the shops that have been reviewed for years on this site and rocket reports. Just think of the trouble you would have if the girl took your wallet AND your pants....

    Don't worry Japan is safe. You can give your credit card # to any company on the internet that promises full service and you won't be threatened and have your money stolen. When Chinese tourism slows down the criminals operation illegal sex businesses will be looking to make up lost revenue. They will turn to crime and foreigners are easy prey.
    Your posts and warnings are very dramatic! It sounds like you've been traumatized by a delivery health session. Did one of these young Japanese girls steal your pants and your wallet? I'm sorry that happened! If you stick to JanJan you should be okay, those ladies don't ever send anyone out pantsless.

    For anyone else who read Mr. Sakaisuji's posts and was worried about giving your credit card number to a shady company, I have some good news. I used several delivery health shops on my most recent trip to Japan and a few others on previous trips, and not once did any of them ask for my credit card number. I paid for every session with cash. I think most of these shops DO have a policy to ask for your credit card number IF YOU WANT TO PAY WITH A CREDIT CARD. Otherwise, it never happened in my experience. Not sure what the deal is with all these dire warnings, but you should be fine if you use common sense. The advice that was given about not going with touts in the street in Kabukicho is good advice. The advice to not trust any delivery health shop is strange and outdated.

  11. #12452

    If only!

    Quote Originally Posted by KgirlPower  [View Original Post]
    Your blowing 300 to 400 every night! I can feed a family for a month with that!

    Well at least I can read about your escapades on my pc at my parent's basement and then jerk off since that's all I can afford.
    Tell that family to go on a diet and you can have a little more fun in Japan! No, I really didn't spend that much every night, and most of the currency I brought over was exchanged at around Y110-115 to the dollar. It was a special trip and I definitely splurged, just not quite as crazy as you think. But I would have included more juicy details in my reports if I'd known you were going to be reading them down in the basement. Next time you head down there, forget about my reports and go to your favorite JAV provider, there's a whole sub genre of Japanese porn that features delivery health scenarios. Being porn, of course, most of them end up with creampie sex, which we know in real life is against the rules. Just search deriheru or delivery.

  12. #12451

    Asian Mystique, THC

    Quote Originally Posted by KublaiKhan808  [View Original Post]
    Many delivery health agencies have girls who provide off menu items, however as the previous post stated, it's considered illegal in Japan. As most of these places are licensed, these services are not stated. If an agency were to find out there employees were offering off menu items, they would get into trouble. Therefore specific girls providing full service is rarely discussed on a public forum in Japan.

    I have had success with delivery health providers in the past in obtaining western style escort services from THC and other places. I have also been turned down FS as well. Besides THC, you could try Nasty Dolls or Asian Mystique. These are gaijin friendly delivery health agencies that have providers who offer FS. Usually FS requires an extra tip to make it worth it for these unnamed providers. Hint, the nastier stuff they offer on their menu items, the more likely you'll get FS.

    Soaplands are your best bet. I've gone to paradise inn at Kawasaki. It's a haul getting there, but well worth it. You can also try soaplands in Yoshiwara and various places in Shinjuku or Shibuya. It's best if you speak some Japanese to access those places. Some are gaijin friendly and some are not.

    When I visit Tokyo this summer, I fully intend to visit paradise in Kawasaki. They are gaijin friendly, none of their staff will turn you away, girls are very attractive, and in most soaplands, FS is a given due to a loophole in the law.

    If you want the delivery health option, use a love hotel, not yours. It's just more practica

    If you search the web you should find a load of resources to guide you. Good luck in Tokyo.
    Thanks for all the information. I confirm Asian Mystique girls go all the way. Maybe the better option, but last time I was in Tokyo they were "sold out" basically no acceptable girls available.

  13. #12450

    Fs thc

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    If you got FS with THC at no extra charge (assume you did not choose anal option) you got very very lucky. General wisdom is if you buy official anal at $200 you may get the holes mixed up at your option. But if you go totally freelance you are still likely to pay up to $200. I had a friend get it at $140. And one that said "up to you" but I think she must really like you. So I suppose it may depend on your mojo but I surely wouldn't count on Free.
    Thanks for the input. I did not pay for anal, I suppose just got lucky.

    If I have time will try her again and let you all know the outcome.

    My guess was as well you probably have better chance of FS happening if you choose a girl which offers anal.

  14. #12449
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    If you got FS with THC at no extra charge (assume you did not choose anal option) you got very very lucky. General wisdom is if you buy official anal at $200 you may get the holes mixed up at your option. But if you go totally freelance you are still likely to pay up to $200. I had a friend get it at $140. And one that said "up to you" but I think she must really like you. So I suppose it may depend on your mojo but I surely wouldn't count on Free.
    Is the $200 the total damage or is that just the anal?

  15. #12448

    FS is Not Free

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky88  [View Original Post]
    Heading to Japan end of Feb after a while. Last time did not have time to play.

    I posted about THC before, had some great experience with Emma a while back and she offered FS. No problem, no additional cost.

    Tried another gal later and no FS or only for a very high additional cost.

    My question, is does anyone have experience with other providers at THC which offer FS as a standard?

    BTW I never had any issues with hotels in Japan, but this time staying at a very small boutique hotel near Ginza, did anyone ever have issues with small hotels in Japan?

    Thanks.
    If you got FS with THC at no extra charge (assume you did not choose anal option) you got very very lucky. General wisdom is if you buy official anal at $200 you may get the holes mixed up at your option. But if you go totally freelance you are still likely to pay up to $200. I had a friend get it at $140. And one that said "up to you" but I think she must really like you. So I suppose it may depend on your mojo but I surely wouldn't count on Free.

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