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  1. #12468

    Thanks for all the info from everyone

    I am used to the service here (US) with giving me mostly on what I want. It just seems very unlikely to get what I want over there without some big downside, even if I can get it (which I probably won't). I'll see what mood I will be in when I am there and maybe pick something if I am truly horny enough. But it looks like I will probably pass and just spend that money on something that would give me a better return in terms of enjoyment. I just have one last question out of curiosity. I got in a somewhat heated argument with friend a few months ago about the service in Japan in general. This said friend has never been to Japan but claims he knows a friend who doesn't speak Japanese, can somehow attain the "good stuff". Would you guys say in all likelihood that this friend of mine is full of shit on this? I didn't get the details so I can't give you more than that. According to him, I should not believe on what I read on the internet because he believes that only experiences from people he knows has legitimacy and posts online can be fake. I suppose I just want this information from people who actually have done this themselves.

  2. #12467
    Quote Originally Posted by Runon99  [View Original Post]
    I haven't used AsianMystique or Nasty Dolls or this place: http://tokyo-escorts.net/ but my understanding is that they all offer FS standard. They might not explicitly say so on their websites but they also don't make a big point of saying it's forbidden, as many delivery health sites do. It will almost definitely be covered FS, though YMMV on that, I guess, and I doubt they offer any of the more exotic things you want. But with the offer of an extra tip, who knows? But I wouldn't use any of those shops expecting one of those services. Ditto a soapland; go to a soap for FS and BBBJ but not for other exotic stuff.

    I do think it's possible to get anal, but once again I haven't tried it. As another commenter above says, many at THC seem to offer it. I think the shop staff can definitely help you find a girl who allows it. Pay the surcharge for it and it's quite possible that the girl will also allow front door access and then you might get to hit all three holes. Same with the girls from the Style group shops. Pick one that allows two hole access and you might get all three. But like Meat Loaf said, two out of three ain't bad.

    As for Milky Baby, maybe FS could be an option even with the pregnant ones, but then again maybe they don't want you poking junior in the head. If you really want kinky, anal with a pregnant Japanese woman sounds pretty kinky to me.
    Bear in mind that advertising "AF" is exploiting a legal loophole to indicate the girl gives FS. From what I've read here and elsewhere, you are more likely to be offered a VF when you get to the room.

  3. #12466

    Asianmystique

    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    I have only did Asianmystique once and the girl I saw was Rio. The service was pretty standard like I get here in the states. She was just bigger than what I would of liked. The entire experience wasn't BAD, just wanted a little better looking girl. Since the pictures are washed out / older I wasn't sure what to expect. I'll adjust my expectations far lower because I haven't had enough experience going there and doing any services other than that one outcall once. I think I should expect just normal service since I don't speak Japanese. Thanks for letting me know. I might pass on going unless I learn Japanese. Seems the stuff I want you either be a regular and have to speak.
    Rio is the longest serving girl in their stable. Has been around since 2004 (she must be at around 40 now). And her description gives away quite clearly what to expect. Other girls are slimmer (unless noted). Expectations about mongering in Japan based on GI Joe stories from the 50's do not match reality anymore. If you want crazy and cheap go to Phillipines or try Indonesia nowadays. Thai is still fine as well, just not as cheap as it used to be.

  4. #12465
    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    I also forgot to ask you about full service. I know that it's technically illegal for any vaginal penetration and it still happens, but my concern is that thing where they get you between their legs to "simulate" intercourse but there is no actual penetration involved. Would you say FS is more likely, if not guaranteed at the foreigner friendly places like AsianMysique or Nasty Dolls? It seems that to have a good chance of having a great time, it's YMMV because of too many variables involved from the girl you see, the day and time you went, your expectations, and yourself as a person and the girl's reaction to that. I know speaking the Japanese increases your chance ten fold, but unfortunately, I don't speak any so I have to go on what I can get.
    I haven't used AsianMystique or Nasty Dolls or this place: http://tokyo-escorts.net/ but my understanding is that they all offer FS standard. They might not explicitly say so on their websites but they also don't make a big point of saying it's forbidden, as many delivery health sites do. It will almost definitely be covered FS, though YMMV on that, I guess, and I doubt they offer any of the more exotic things you want. But with the offer of an extra tip, who knows? But I wouldn't use any of those shops expecting one of those services. Ditto a soapland; go to a soap for FS and BBBJ but not for other exotic stuff.

    I do think it's possible to get anal, but once again I haven't tried it. As another commenter above says, many at THC seem to offer it. I think the shop staff can definitely help you find a girl who allows it. Pay the surcharge for it and it's quite possible that the girl will also allow front door access and then you might get to hit all three holes. Same with the girls from the Style group shops. Pick one that allows two hole access and you might get all three. But like Meat Loaf said, two out of three ain't bad.

    As for Milky Baby, maybe FS could be an option even with the pregnant ones, but then again maybe they don't want you poking junior in the head. If you really want kinky, anal with a pregnant Japanese woman sounds pretty kinky to me.

  5. #12464
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtraveller  [View Original Post]
    There is also no "signing paperwork" right now and no indoctrination, but his maybe because I speak Japanese reasonable fluently. The girls at hipness are certainly not the prettiest, but reliable and good Thai service is provided. One minor correction to Runon99. Hipness will answer foreign numbers and will service you. Step 1) Call and ask if the girl has time now or in one hour. Leave your name. Step 2) Check into the Love Hotel and call from the room again to call the girl in.
    Thanks for the kind words and correction / update. I used Hipness a few years ago and my info was based on a rockitreports review. I used a local phone number but I don't actually know if a foreign number wouldn't have worked even then. Good to hear it's not required now. There was a form I had to sign -- the session contents contradicted what was on the form, of course -- and there was also a handwritten note from the manager apologizing for his poor English skills on the phone. Hipness is a good option to have.

  6. #12463

    No way. Thailand is the king of perversion. As they have sicko services like kids.

    While japane has hos dressing up has kids or grannies etc. I was watching this documentary of thailand. And that countries sex trade reaches sicko level. Parents were selling kids or offering them to dirtbag sickos for sex to provide for the family. I puked and cried rom seeing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Totally agree. A girl I know generally likes to go with Gaijin. But when she worked at another shop for a while for a while she had many Japanese customers and her summary was "they are so perverted". LOL.

    AF is considered tame for sure. If you go on the THC site you can click the checkbox filter for Anal Fuck and it will list only the girls that offer it.

  7. #12462

    Agree 100%

    Quote Originally Posted by RafaelX12  [View Original Post]
    I said it before and its been said also by other people. Once you can speak the language at least at a basic / conversation level your options go 100 x way up. If you do that, you'll be able to find a ton of AF services without a problem. Tokyo is the damn pervert capital of Asia, name your poison, and you can find it.
    Totally agree. A girl I know generally likes to go with Gaijin. But when she worked at another shop for a while for a while she had many Japanese customers and her summary was "they are so perverted". LOL.

    AF is considered tame for sure. If you go on the THC site you can click the checkbox filter for Anal Fuck and it will list only the girls that offer it.

  8. #12461
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtraveller  [View Original Post]
    Hello VerticalSmile. Looking through your posts and questions it looks like you are looking for girls doing "nasty stuff" and anal. Please apologize but if these are you priorities, Tokyo is probably not the right place to monger. Japanese have a different idea of "kinky" and "nasty" - Anal is one of the rarest serviced on offer here.

    Without speaking Japanese your options are somewhat limited anyway. "Off menu" services will be more expensive than elsewhere and Japanese culture has it's peculiarities. You cannot negotiate with the girls, you cannot be pushy. I'm also a bit worried by your negative feedback on Asianmystique, without giving us the name of the girls BTW. , as Asianmystique is usually one of the safest options. You can surely get all kinds of service and young girls with the right budget (an idea how much you are willing to pay would also help) in Tokyo, but nasty, young, Japanese, good looking will be hard to come by if you don't speak the language.

    The few safe options for FS are listed throughout the forum. Soaplands won't offer the nasty stuff you want, nor most girls at Asianmystique or THC. Please set your priorities, expectation and budget clearly in your posts and when you consider mongering again in Tokyo, otherwise it will be disappointing.
    I have only did Asianmystique once and the girl I saw was Rio. The service was pretty standard like I get here in the states. She was just bigger than what I would of liked. The entire experience wasn't BAD, just wanted a little better looking girl. Since the pictures are washed out / older I wasn't sure what to expect. I'll adjust my expectations far lower because I haven't had enough experience going there and doing any services other than that one outcall once. I think I should expect just normal service since I don't speak Japanese. Thanks for letting me know. I might pass on going unless I learn Japanese. Seems the stuff I want you either be a regular and have to speak.

  9. #12460

    Misinformation.

    I said it before and its been said also by other people. Once you can speak the language at least at a basic / conversation level your options go 100 x way up. If you do that, you'll be able to find a ton of AF services without a problem. Tokyo is the damn pervert capital of Asia, name your poison, and you can find it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mtraveller  [View Original Post]
    Hello VerticalSmile. Looking through your posts and questions it looks like you are looking for girls doing "nasty stuff" and anal. Please apologize but if these are you priorities, Tokyo is probably not the right place to monger. Japanese have a different idea of "kinky" and "nasty" - Anal is one of the rarest serviced on offer here.

    Without speaking Japanese your options are somewhat limited anyway. "Off menu" services will be more expensive than elsewhere and Japanese culture has it's peculiarities. You cannot negotiate with the girls, you cannot be pushy. I'm also a bit worried by your negative feedback on Asianmystique, without giving us the name of the girls BTW. , as Asianmystique is usually one of the safest options. You can surely get all kinds of service and young girls with the right budget (an idea how much you are willing to pay would also help) in Tokyo, but nasty, young, Japanese, good looking will be hard to come by if you don't speak the language.

    The few safe options for FS are listed throughout the forum. Soaplands won't offer the nasty stuff you want, nor most girls at Asianmystique or THC. Please set your priorities, expectation and budget clearly in your posts and when you consider mongering again in Tokyo, otherwise it will be disappointing.

  10. #12459

    Don't look for nasty stuff in Tokyo

    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    I am intrigued by your post of Milky Baby so I did a look into them. Seems like they are a bit intrusive about wanting info and keeping it on file to see a girl. Their service looks interesting but I only have 1+ year old reviews from TAG to go on that none of them seemed to have done full service. Seems most offer AF but an undisclosed additional fee, but looking for all three holes access. I guess the milking thing is the major attraction only? I just rather try my luck in boning a pregnant girl than drinking one's milk to be honest. I also forgot to ask you about full service. I know that it's technically illegal for any vaginal penetration and it still happens, but my concern is that thing where they get you between their legs to "simulate" intercourse but there is no actual penetration involved. Would you say FS is more likely, if not guaranteed at the foreigner friendly places like AsianMysique or Nasty Dolls? It seems that to have a good chance of having a great time, it's YMMV because of too many variables involved from the girl you see, the day and time you went, your expectations, and yourself as a person and the girl's reaction to that. I know speaking the Japanese increases your chance ten fold, but unfortunately, I don't speak any so I have to go on what I can get.
    Hello VerticalSmile. Looking through your posts and questions it looks like you are looking for girls doing "nasty stuff" and anal. Please apologize but if these are you priorities, Tokyo is probably not the right place to monger. Japanese have a different idea of "kinky" and "nasty" - Anal is one of the rarest serviced on offer here.

    Without speaking Japanese your options are somewhat limited anyway. "Off menu" services will be more expensive than elsewhere and Japanese culture has it's peculiarities. You cannot negotiate with the girls, you cannot be pushy. I'm also a bit worried by your negative feedback on Asianmystique, without giving us the name of the girls BTW. , as Asianmystique is usually one of the safest options. You can surely get all kinds of service and young girls with the right budget (an idea how much you are willing to pay would also help) in Tokyo, but nasty, young, Japanese, good looking will be hard to come by if you don't speak the language.

    The few safe options for FS are listed throughout the forum. Soaplands won't offer the nasty stuff you want, nor most girls at Asianmystique or THC. Please set your priorities, expectation and budget clearly in your posts and when you consider mongering again in Tokyo, otherwise it will be disappointing.

  11. #12458
    Quote Originally Posted by Runon99  [View Original Post]
    When I posted my trip reports, I expected a few kudos and a few follow-up questions, but I must admit I didn't imagine that I would be trolled by someone with reading comprehension issues and some mystery agenda against any shop that wasn't mentioned on this board at least 10 years ago. But here we are.

    I don't mind most of your comments, they're pretty funny. The part where you falsely accuse me of being deceptive is less funny, however.

    Once again, I think I used 7 or 8 different delivery health shops in Tokyo and Osaka last October / November and I didn't give my credit card number to any of them, nor did they ask. They didn't hold my credit card number; they never had my credit card number. There are thousands of different delivery health places in Japan -- maybe some of them do ask for credit card numbers. I have no idea! All I know is that none of the ones that I used did. Also, none of the girls stole my pants or my wallet. One delivery health girl who gave me an off-menu service item even tried to refuse the tip that we had agreed upon. I insisted she take it.

    The unintentionally ironic aspect to Mr. Sakaisuji's rants against unlicensed shops and his plea that folks only frequent established shops that have been reviewed is that 1) all the delivery health shops I used are licensed and 2) I found about about most of them from reviews I read here, rockitreports, TAG, TNS, etc.
    I am intrigued by your post of Milky Baby so I did a look into them. Seems like they are a bit intrusive about wanting info and keeping it on file to see a girl. Their service looks interesting but I only have 1+ year old reviews from TAG to go on that none of them seemed to have done full service. Seems most offer AF but an undisclosed additional fee, but looking for all three holes access. I guess the milking thing is the major attraction only? I just rather try my luck in boning a pregnant girl than drinking one's milk to be honest. I also forgot to ask you about full service. I know that it's technically illegal for any vaginal penetration and it still happens, but my concern is that thing where they get you between their legs to "simulate" intercourse but there is no actual penetration involved. Would you say FS is more likely, if not guaranteed at the foreigner friendly places like AsianMysique or Nasty Dolls? It seems that to have a good chance of having a great time, it's YMMV because of too many variables involved from the girl you see, the day and time you went, your expectations, and yourself as a person and the girl's reaction to that. I know speaking the Japanese increases your chance ten fold, but unfortunately, I don't speak any so I have to go on what I can get.

  12. #12457

    Kudos to Runon99 and a report

    Quote Originally Posted by Runon99  [View Original Post]
    When I posted my trip reports, I expected a few kudos and a few follow-up questions, but I must admit I didn't imagine that I would be trolled by someone with reading comprehension issues and some mystery agenda against any shop that wasn't mentioned on this board at least 10 years ago. But here we are.
    Kudos to Runon99. Please ignore Saikaisuji, not only is he misjudging the industry in Japan but is also racist (bickering about Chinese girls stealing) and misinformed about how the sex industry works.

    To all others reading this, girls in this industry, anywhere in the world, are less likely to rob you in your Hotel room than a random freeby pickup. The girls and the shop do not want trouble with the police as any hint of stealing or violence would mean immediate shutdown of their business by the police. As paradoxical as it my sound, if the shop is run by the Yakuza it will be the safest service you can get. You may overpay and get ripped of, but violence and vulgar robbery is not tolerated by the Yakuza. I have personally acted on this rule in many a strange place in the world and never ever was getting anywhere near a dangerous situation. I have never heard any credible stories of "professionals" stealing from customer in straight way. Oh, and this includes many Chinese girls. They are dead honest. You can safely bring girls from any delivery health back into (almost) any Hotel. Should the girl give trouble they will help the guest. The long time staff in Japanese Tokyo Hotels 3 star or 5 star has seen it all, nothing will surprise them.

    Report: I used Hipness 2 times this week. The girl was of the chubbierty type, which is what I wanted, and the service left nothing to be wished for. She is now going back to Thailand so recommendations do not matter. There is also no "signing paperwork" right now and no indoctrination, but his maybe because I speak Japanese reasonable fluently. The girls at hipness are certainly not the prettiest, but reliable and good Thai service is provided. One minor correction to Runon99. Hipness will answer foreign numbers and will service you. Step 1) Call and ask if the girl has time now or in one hour. Leave your name. Step 2) Check into the Love Hotel and call from the room again to call the girl in.

  13. #12456
    When I posted my trip reports, I expected a few kudos and a few follow-up questions, but I must admit I didn't imagine that I would be trolled by someone with reading comprehension issues and some mystery agenda against any shop that wasn't mentioned on this board at least 10 years ago. But here we are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakaisuji  [View Original Post]
    Runnon doesn't like my comments. That is ok, but he is being deceptive when he says the delivery health give you an option to pay with your credit card. They do, but they take the number and hold it until you pay. They still have the number after you pay and they can charge you whatever they want. And there is nothing you can do about it.

    Legitimate shops with business licenses are fun and safe. Don't fool around with unlicensed web or delivery health. They are run by criminals and the workers don't take the mandatory STD checks.
    I don't mind most of your comments, they're pretty funny. The part where you falsely accuse me of being deceptive is less funny, however.

    Once again, I think I used 7 or 8 different delivery health shops in Tokyo and Osaka last October / November and I didn't give my credit card number to any of them, nor did they ask. They didn't hold my credit card number; they never had my credit card number. There are thousands of different delivery health places in Japan -- maybe some of them do ask for credit card numbers. I have no idea! All I know is that none of the ones that I used did. Also, none of the girls stole my pants or my wallet. One delivery health girl who gave me an off-menu service item even tried to refuse the tip that we had agreed upon. I insisted she take it.

    The unintentionally ironic aspect to Mr. Sakaisuji's rants against unlicensed shops and his plea that folks only frequent established shops that have been reviewed is that 1) all the delivery health shops I used are licensed and 2) I found about about most of them from reviews I read here, rockitreports, TAG, TNS, etc.

  14. #12455

    Sex industry-gangsters and the cops

    TOKYO (TR) – Tokyo Metropolitan Police have arrested a member of a yakuza criminal syndicate who established an office in Nakano Ward that is too close to a school than what is allowed by law, reports the Asahi Shimbun (Feb. 13).

    In November of last year, Shigeru Matsushima, a 40-year-old member of the Sumiyoshi-kai, worked with other gang members in covertly establishing the office on the premises of a former okonomiyaki pancake shop located about 60 meters from a middle school in the Yayoicho area.

    As mandated by a Tokyo Metropolitan Government ordinance, it is prohibited for a boryokudan (criminal syndicate) to have an office within 200 meters of a nursery or elementary school.

    According to police, the office is located on the first floor of three-floor residence. In making the conversion, the gang removed the hot plate, carried out other remodeling work and purchased furniture at a total cost of about 700,000 yen.

    Matsushima has declined to comment on the allegations, police said.

    Matsushima is a former adult video (AV) director who worked under the name Matsushima Cross. He is also a former upper-lever member of bosozoku biker gang Kanto Rengo.

    The arrest is at least the third for Matsushima. In January, police also arrested him over the alleged extortion of a male AV star in 2016. Two months later, police accused him of extorting the president of a talent agency.

    Last year, police arrested several gang members for establishing offices too close to schools in Nakano Ward and the Kabukicho red-light district of Shinjuku Ward.

    This brief article doesn't really mention the sex industry. But it makes it very clear that if gangs open offices then the police know where to find them. So if you have trouble at a sex shop then you have trouble with the police. They are basically on the same side.

    Don't bring a girl back to your regular hotel!! What will you do if she steals something, damages the room, locks you out or has her gangster friends return to blackmail you?

    Do you really want to get in an argument about spit and swallow with a prostitute in your hotel room and have her leave accusing you of not paying her properly? She will come back with "friends". Japan is a safe place for a tourist, but it isn't safe for someone picking up prostitutes from web sites, off the street or from touts promising a porn star experience with an 18 year old beauty.

    Runnon doesn't like my comments. That is ok, but he is being deceptive when he says the delivery health give you an option to pay with your credit card. They do, but they take the number and hold it until you pay. They still have the number after you pay and they can charge you whatever they want. And there is nothing you can do about it.

    Legitimate shops with business licenses are fun and safe. Don't fool around with unlicensed web or delivery health. They are run by criminals and the workers don't take the mandatory STD checks.

  15. #12454
    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    Thanks, you have been helpful. I have too many options but no experience. I had a few more questions.

    1. I assume these are outcall to my hotel or to a love hotel?

    2. Would you say the older (MILF) types are more likely to do the freakier stuff? Nothing too crazy, but besides cum swallowing, I am thinking anal. I know it's hard to say, but just wondering if I should bother.

    3. For the upcharge, can I find this somewhere on the website? Say if I use translate when I meet the girl, can I negotiate before to see if the girl wants to do what I want?
    1. Delivery Health is all outcall -- hence the "delivery" -- and I used love hotels for all of the sessions I described. Regular hotels can work too if they allow visitors.

    2. Probably yes, but some of the younger ones will too, it just depends on the specific girl. For the shops we're discussing (as well as THC and most other "health" shops), each girl's page lists the acts she performs. A good number say they do anal, but your guess is as good as mine whether they truly do that or if saying they'll do it is just code for them doing regular FS. There's a shop called Milky Baby which specializes in pregnant / lactating women. From a couple reviews I read, the ones who say they do anal really will do anal. Maybe all the girls at all the shops who say they'll do anal will really do it. It's legal, after all.

    3. All the fees are on the websites but, again, the part that shows the extra options and fees doesn't translate on my Chrome browser -- maybe you'd have better results with another browser? No idea. But the workaround to see what the extra options are would be to look at a particular girl's profile -- such as this one: https://www.cityheaven.net/tokyo/A13...-8600048/?of=y -- and all the things listed under "Available Play" are the standard services and those listed under "Available Option" are the extras. A circle after the option means she does it and an X means she doesn't. This doesn't tell you the prices of each option, you'll have to ask the shop when you call.

    I would NOT suggest trying to negotiate for extra options with the girl (unless it's for something they obviously can't list: FS), just tell them the options you want when you make the reservation. If the girl's profile says she doesn't allow cum swallowing or anal, she might not appreciate you asking for them during the session. You can ask the shop which girls are available who DO allow the things you want if you don't want to search every girl's profile for them.

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