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  1. #12477
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtraveller  [View Original Post]
    It's not impossible and not in contradiction to the posts here. For one thing it can be expensive, and secondly it takes time (not easy). It take more time when you don't speak Japanese and most people don't bother to invest the time. Among the JAV girls (if one likes that, I don't) there are certainly many who don't mind gaijin customers / sponsors. But everything in Japan is trust based. You can not just call a certain number or go to a certain club (not without somebody they now very very well vouching for you) and get access to the "good stuff". You would need to live in Tokyo, get in contact with the JAV scene (not that difficult, its big), there is certainly girls / gusy who like to practice Einglish, demonstrate that you are willing to spend money, demonstrate that you are reliable, than get introduced to girls willing to provide special services. Nothing about this is magic, it just takes lots of time and lots of money. This forum is not about this kind of lengthy process and not about special introduction (we don't know you). We talk about the safe options.

    Your "friend who has never been in Japan" mislead you (talks BS) but ignorantly misjudging his other friends boastings. Sure enough, If you are spending a few weeks in Japan and can spend 10 k USD, you can work yourself into the scene without speaking Japanese. Oh, and you would need to be culturally aware of Japanese habits and social signals.
    The Japanese don't like foreigners. They like their money, but they don't like or really want foreigners there. There is no secret code or secret friends. Here is an idea for mongers. Travel to Australia and find a Japanese sex worker that is on working holiday there. Make friends with her and ask if you can visit her in Japan. She will probably either say okay And never contact you again or she will tell you that she is worried about her reputation. Even if the girl likes foreigners her customers DON'T. If she is seen with foreigners by a customer she will be ostracized.

  2. #12476
    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    He didn't mention about cheap or easy. The only thing memorable from that conversation was the fact that the person that he knows can somehow access the good stuff (JAV, crazy services, super hot) without knowing Japanese. Contrary to what I read, it just seemed highly unlikely. Either way, I think this friend's ego felt attacked because I questioned the validity of his statement and he fought back to preserve his ego, hence the BS info I got. I'm sure these could possibly be accessed if the sky is the limit in terms of how much you want to spend, but you can do this anywhere if money was no object which does not apply to the majority of us.
    It's not impossible and not in contradiction to the posts here. For one thing it can be expensive, and secondly it takes time (not easy). It take more time when you don't speak Japanese and most people don't bother to invest the time. Among the JAV girls (if one likes that, I don't) there are certainly many who don't mind gaijin customers / sponsors. But everything in Japan is trust based. You can not just call a certain number or go to a certain club (not without somebody they now very very well vouching for you) and get access to the "good stuff". You would need to live in Tokyo, get in contact with the JAV scene (not that difficult, its big), there is certainly girls / gusy who like to practice Einglish, demonstrate that you are willing to spend money, demonstrate that you are reliable, than get introduced to girls willing to provide special services. Nothing about this is magic, it just takes lots of time and lots of money. This forum is not about this kind of lengthy process and not about special introduction (we don't know you). We talk about the safe options.

    Your "friend who has never been in Japan" mislead you (talks BS) but ignorantly misjudging his other friends boastings. Sure enough, If you are spending a few weeks in Japan and can spend 10 k USD, you can work yourself into the scene without speaking Japanese. Oh, and you would need to be culturally aware of Japanese habits and social signals.

  3. #12475
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtraveller  [View Original Post]
    "A friend of a friend". I'm roling on the floor laughing.

    In Tokyo it's:

    - Cheap.

    - Easy.

    - "The good things".

    Pick two!

    I'm sure that friend will share his secret with you.
    He didn't mention about cheap or easy. The only thing memorable from that conversation was the fact that the person that he knows can somehow access the good stuff (JAV, crazy services, super hot) without knowing Japanese. Contrary to what I read, it just seemed highly unlikely. Either way, I think this friend's ego felt attacked because I questioned the validity of his statement and he fought back to preserve his ego, hence the BS info I got. I'm sure these could possibly be accessed if the sky is the limit in terms of how much you want to spend, but you can do this anywhere if money was no object which does not apply to the majority of us.

  4. #12474
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I think you are doing yourself a real disservice here. For me and many others condoms are a real downer, so the BBBJ is where it's at. FS is a nice to have but if choosing condom FS vs BBBJ it's no contest BBBJ every time.

    Pick the right girl at TOkyo Hentai Club. Go diamond class pick the CIM option and I guarantee you will not be disappointed. These girls are model-class lookers (mostly) give killer bathing ritual warmup and outstanding BBBJ (must choose CIM to get this) with maybe some Sumata thrown in. One of my favorite venues worldwide regardless of the FS lottery.

    Oh and Honey remains number 3 on my all time kissers list. I'd pay just to kiss her. Seriously.

    PS if u MUST have FS go to their sister shop Paradise Massage a half hour train ride to Kawasaki you will get it there as part of standard package.
    P.S. I have NO affiliation with THC or Paradise.
    I will second Steve on this. As a traveler who is there for few days and if you want to have one of the best experience in Japan I will go for THC and then Paradise in Kawasaki. Like Steve suggested go for CIM option to get the best experience. I followed his advise and still can not forget Rika from THC though she no longer works there.

  5. #12473

    "A friend of a friend"

    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    I am used to the service here (US) with giving me mostly on what I want. It just seems very unlikely to get what I want over there without some big downside, even if I can get it (which I probably won't). I'll see what mood I will be in when I am there and maybe pick something if I am truly horny enough. But it looks like I will probably pass and just spend that money on something that would give me a better return in terms of enjoyment. I just have one last question out of curiosity. I got in a somewhat heated argument with friend a few months ago about the service in Japan in general. This said friend has never been to Japan but claims he knows a friend who doesn't speak Japanese, can somehow attain the "good stuff". Would you guys say in all likelihood that this friend of mine is full of shit on this? I didn't get the details so I can't give you more than that. According to him, I should not believe on what I read on the internet because he believes that only experiences from people he knows has legitimacy and posts online can be fake. I suppose I just want this information from people who actually have done this themselves.
    "A friend of a friend". I'm roling on the floor laughing.

    In Tokyo it's:

    - Cheap.

    - Easy.

    - "The good things".

    Pick two!

    I'm sure that friend will share his secret with you.

  6. #12472

    If it's not FS it's no good?

    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    I am used to the service here (US) with giving me mostly on what I want. It just seems very unlikely to get what I want over there without some big downside, even if I can get it (which I probably won't). I'll see what mood I will be in when I am there and maybe pick something if I am truly horny enough. But it looks like I will probably pass and just spend that money on something that would give me a better return in terms of enjoyment. I just have one last question out of curiosity. I got in a somewhat heated argument with friend a few months ago about the service in Japan in general. This said friend has never been to Japan but claims he knows a friend who doesn't speak Japanese, can somehow attain the "good stuff". Would you guys say in all likelihood that this friend of mine is full of shit on this? I didn't get the details so I can't give you more than that. According to him, I should not believe on what I read on the internet because he believes that only experiences from people he knows has legitimacy and posts online can be fake. I suppose I just want this information from people who actually have done this themselves.
    I think you are doing yourself a real disservice here. For me and many others condoms are a real downer, so the BBBJ is where it's at. FS is a nice to have but if choosing condom FS vs BBBJ it's no contest BBBJ every time.

    Pick the right girl at TOkyo Hentai Club. Go diamond class pick the CIM option and I guarantee you will not be disappointed. These girls are model-class lookers (mostly) give killer bathing ritual warmup and outstanding BBBJ (must choose CIM to get this) with maybe some Sumata thrown in. One of my favorite venues worldwide regardless of the FS lottery.

    Oh and Honey remains number 3 on my all time kissers list. I'd pay just to kiss her. Seriously.

    PS if u MUST have FS go to their sister shop Paradise Massage a half hour train ride to Kawasaki you will get it there as part of standard package.
    P.S. I have NO affiliation with THC or Paradise.

  7. #12471

    Tns

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRossi  [View Original Post]
    I admit my ignorance, what TNS stands for?
    TNS = Tokyo Night Style.

  8. #12470

    Same here. The mongers in Japan forum uses abbrv left and right.

    Ths this tng that. Not newbie friendly compared to other cities forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRossi  [View Original Post]
    I admit my ignorance, what TNS stands for?

  9. #12469

    Silly question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Runon99  [View Original Post]
    The unintentionally ironic aspect to Mr. Sakaisuji's rants against unlicensed shops and his plea that folks only frequent established shops that have been reviewed is that 1) all the delivery health shops I used are licensed and 2) I found about about most of them from reviews I read here, rockitreports, TAG, TNS, etc.
    I admit my ignorance, what TNS stands for?

  10. #12468

    Thanks for all the info from everyone

    I am used to the service here (US) with giving me mostly on what I want. It just seems very unlikely to get what I want over there without some big downside, even if I can get it (which I probably won't). I'll see what mood I will be in when I am there and maybe pick something if I am truly horny enough. But it looks like I will probably pass and just spend that money on something that would give me a better return in terms of enjoyment. I just have one last question out of curiosity. I got in a somewhat heated argument with friend a few months ago about the service in Japan in general. This said friend has never been to Japan but claims he knows a friend who doesn't speak Japanese, can somehow attain the "good stuff". Would you guys say in all likelihood that this friend of mine is full of shit on this? I didn't get the details so I can't give you more than that. According to him, I should not believe on what I read on the internet because he believes that only experiences from people he knows has legitimacy and posts online can be fake. I suppose I just want this information from people who actually have done this themselves.

  11. #12467
    Quote Originally Posted by Runon99  [View Original Post]
    I haven't used AsianMystique or Nasty Dolls or this place: http://tokyo-escorts.net/ but my understanding is that they all offer FS standard. They might not explicitly say so on their websites but they also don't make a big point of saying it's forbidden, as many delivery health sites do. It will almost definitely be covered FS, though YMMV on that, I guess, and I doubt they offer any of the more exotic things you want. But with the offer of an extra tip, who knows? But I wouldn't use any of those shops expecting one of those services. Ditto a soapland; go to a soap for FS and BBBJ but not for other exotic stuff.

    I do think it's possible to get anal, but once again I haven't tried it. As another commenter above says, many at THC seem to offer it. I think the shop staff can definitely help you find a girl who allows it. Pay the surcharge for it and it's quite possible that the girl will also allow front door access and then you might get to hit all three holes. Same with the girls from the Style group shops. Pick one that allows two hole access and you might get all three. But like Meat Loaf said, two out of three ain't bad.

    As for Milky Baby, maybe FS could be an option even with the pregnant ones, but then again maybe they don't want you poking junior in the head. If you really want kinky, anal with a pregnant Japanese woman sounds pretty kinky to me.
    Bear in mind that advertising "AF" is exploiting a legal loophole to indicate the girl gives FS. From what I've read here and elsewhere, you are more likely to be offered a VF when you get to the room.

  12. #12466

    Asianmystique

    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    I have only did Asianmystique once and the girl I saw was Rio. The service was pretty standard like I get here in the states. She was just bigger than what I would of liked. The entire experience wasn't BAD, just wanted a little better looking girl. Since the pictures are washed out / older I wasn't sure what to expect. I'll adjust my expectations far lower because I haven't had enough experience going there and doing any services other than that one outcall once. I think I should expect just normal service since I don't speak Japanese. Thanks for letting me know. I might pass on going unless I learn Japanese. Seems the stuff I want you either be a regular and have to speak.
    Rio is the longest serving girl in their stable. Has been around since 2004 (she must be at around 40 now). And her description gives away quite clearly what to expect. Other girls are slimmer (unless noted). Expectations about mongering in Japan based on GI Joe stories from the 50's do not match reality anymore. If you want crazy and cheap go to Phillipines or try Indonesia nowadays. Thai is still fine as well, just not as cheap as it used to be.

  13. #12465
    Quote Originally Posted by VerticalSmile  [View Original Post]
    I also forgot to ask you about full service. I know that it's technically illegal for any vaginal penetration and it still happens, but my concern is that thing where they get you between their legs to "simulate" intercourse but there is no actual penetration involved. Would you say FS is more likely, if not guaranteed at the foreigner friendly places like AsianMysique or Nasty Dolls? It seems that to have a good chance of having a great time, it's YMMV because of too many variables involved from the girl you see, the day and time you went, your expectations, and yourself as a person and the girl's reaction to that. I know speaking the Japanese increases your chance ten fold, but unfortunately, I don't speak any so I have to go on what I can get.
    I haven't used AsianMystique or Nasty Dolls or this place: http://tokyo-escorts.net/ but my understanding is that they all offer FS standard. They might not explicitly say so on their websites but they also don't make a big point of saying it's forbidden, as many delivery health sites do. It will almost definitely be covered FS, though YMMV on that, I guess, and I doubt they offer any of the more exotic things you want. But with the offer of an extra tip, who knows? But I wouldn't use any of those shops expecting one of those services. Ditto a soapland; go to a soap for FS and BBBJ but not for other exotic stuff.

    I do think it's possible to get anal, but once again I haven't tried it. As another commenter above says, many at THC seem to offer it. I think the shop staff can definitely help you find a girl who allows it. Pay the surcharge for it and it's quite possible that the girl will also allow front door access and then you might get to hit all three holes. Same with the girls from the Style group shops. Pick one that allows two hole access and you might get all three. But like Meat Loaf said, two out of three ain't bad.

    As for Milky Baby, maybe FS could be an option even with the pregnant ones, but then again maybe they don't want you poking junior in the head. If you really want kinky, anal with a pregnant Japanese woman sounds pretty kinky to me.

  14. #12464
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtraveller  [View Original Post]
    There is also no "signing paperwork" right now and no indoctrination, but his maybe because I speak Japanese reasonable fluently. The girls at hipness are certainly not the prettiest, but reliable and good Thai service is provided. One minor correction to Runon99. Hipness will answer foreign numbers and will service you. Step 1) Call and ask if the girl has time now or in one hour. Leave your name. Step 2) Check into the Love Hotel and call from the room again to call the girl in.
    Thanks for the kind words and correction / update. I used Hipness a few years ago and my info was based on a rockitreports review. I used a local phone number but I don't actually know if a foreign number wouldn't have worked even then. Good to hear it's not required now. There was a form I had to sign -- the session contents contradicted what was on the form, of course -- and there was also a handwritten note from the manager apologizing for his poor English skills on the phone. Hipness is a good option to have.

  15. #12463

    No way. Thailand is the king of perversion. As they have sicko services like kids.

    While japane has hos dressing up has kids or grannies etc. I was watching this documentary of thailand. And that countries sex trade reaches sicko level. Parents were selling kids or offering them to dirtbag sickos for sex to provide for the family. I puked and cried rom seeing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Totally agree. A girl I know generally likes to go with Gaijin. But when she worked at another shop for a while for a while she had many Japanese customers and her summary was "they are so perverted". LOL.

    AF is considered tame for sure. If you go on the THC site you can click the checkbox filter for Anal Fuck and it will list only the girls that offer it.

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