Tokyo

[Achup]

Plenty of Love Hotels are fully automated these days (i.e. you check in at a machine, not with a human receptionist); I expect in those there is no problem walking in with 3.That said, delivery girls arriving along is not an unusual sight in most LHs, so I think you would also be OK ordering the AM girl to come later.Make sure to tell AM what you are up to though. The girl has to be OK with the arrangement.

Oh yeah of course, its been cleared with them. Only certain girls will do a threesome with a couple, but one of them was the girl we wanted, so its all good. I wouldn't dream of not telling them. Thats extremely dodgy.

[Nino]

Is there any sort of checking they will do at the front door of the hotel? Or Do i like buzz them up or something? (Sorry, im a Love Hotel Virgin).Or would it be better just to get a buisiness hotel suite for the night, do you think?Thank you in advance!

Plenty of Love Hotels are fully automated these days (i.e. you check in at a machine, not with a human receptionist); I expect in those there is no problem walking in with 3.That said, delivery girls arriving along is not an unusual sight in most LHs, so I think you would also be OK ordering the AM girl to come later.Make sure to tell AM what you are up to though... the girl has to be OK with the arrangement.

[Nino]

Well, thank you allI searched the web , found a lot of scam report of **********.But any body trie http://www.tokyoescortmodels.com/ before, I am araid it is also a fake fordge.

Looks like another fake name for the Alla scammers. Rule of the thumb: Any site the post what are clearly photos of professional models ripped off somewhere and then offer you low rates are scams.

[Tim Wu]

Well, thank you allI searched the web , found a lot of scam report of **********.But any body trie http://www.tokyoescortmodels.com/ before, I am araid it is also a fake fordge.

[Achup]

I have a freind coming over to visit me here in Tokyo (female), and we are going to sign up with one of the AM girls for a night, for the three of us.Now I believe that many love hotels will not allow 3 people to check in together, right?Do you think it would be a problem if my freind and I signed in first, and then the AM girl came along later?Is there any sort of checking they will do at the front door of the hotel? Or Do i like buzz them up or something? (Sorry, im a Love Hotel Virgin).Or would it be better just to get a buisiness hotel suite for the night, do you think?Thank you in advance!

[Homban]

I thought G Dawg's original report on NYNY was valid, since I?d gone through a couple of disappointments at Kanda Ekimae Soapland, part of the NYNY chain that?s been praised so much on this forum. So I wrote about my disappointment too, partly in the hope of generating a positive discussion on which women in that soapland chain may be more suited to my needs than others.I was surprised, then, to find I?d been completely misunderstood and subsequently rather ganged-up-on after someone quoted my entire report then gave me a lengthy lecture on how I shouldn?t have expected beauty and youth from Ekimae, although I very clearly stated I hadn?t. This is what I wrote: "I'll gladly pay up for a not-so-young, imperfect type if she makes up for it in attitude and willingness to please."In retrospect, I don?t think I (or G Dawg later) was singled out for criticism, I think the problem is just sloppy quoting and lazy writing. It?s not hard to quote only that part of someone?s report you want to respond to. And it?s not hard to reword your advice etc. to make it clearer who you?re talking to. Two easy ways to avoid giving offence.BTW this isn?t a report about the quality of the NYNY chain. I think that subject?s been adequately covered now (unless someone wants to share women?s names with the rest of us).

[JohnTodd]

This probably belongs in the Yokohama thread but Koganecho is dead. RIP. I too dream of the old days.

If you mean in Yokohama, across the rver from the Fantasy Hotel, I was there this Wednesday 11/15/06, it is 100% dead, closed down, empty, no signs of life anywhere. I spent an hour looking and it is closed!

[Hapaman]

Anyone been to koganecho area lately, or the other side of the river (Sorry just dreaming about the old days ..........)Topos

This probably belongs in the Yokohama thread but Koganecho is dead. RIP. I too dream of the old days.

[Dreams]

I thought I need to clear a few things up, after a couple members of the board misunderstood some of my comments and ganged up on me.Just to be clear:1. I never expected a young, hot thing from these two places. Surely, I went in hoping that my provider will be at least friendly, and decent looking, but never did I expected young and hot body like some of the people have commented. I know this is not the place for that kind of providers. In fact, I have a steady provider at Champs who I think is great! She is definitely not young (late 30s), not busty (B), but she provides the most memorable service- decent wash and massage, friendly conversation, and the whole service package. I think I will just stick with her for now. So I am not biased to young, hot things as some of the feedbacks have suggested. I am looking for the read deal, with satifying service.2. My main complaint was when the service got started. The main purpose of a soapland is to get a wash, but as I have said, my two experiences at NYNY: one of them almost rubbed a skin off my thing with a dish washing sponge, and the other did a lacklaster wash and told me to dip in the tub. If you can't even provide the very basic service of a soapland, then there is no point. If the service is good, surely I can overlook the appearance. But in this case, the service was uncomfortable to say the least.3. The service at both of these places has been praised over and over in the past years. Everyone went on and on about the service they've been getting. Never once did anyone mention that this is just a 'simple wash and hand release' place. Surely, YMMV, but I think the praises all these years has created somewhat an illusion, and maybe false advertising about these places. So hopefully, my review will bring attention to some of the more picky members on this board.4. I was never disrespectful to the manager or the providers. Surely, I am not exactly Mr. Friendly, but surely I know I wasn't rude, as some members have feared that I might get a bad name for foreigners. I carry on friendly conversations to the best of my ability, and when everything is finished, I bowed and said thank you like Japaneses do. The buttomline is, I noticed the service is not as good as the past reviews have indicated. And I chose to share that information with those who cares. And if we can't strive for better, than what is the point of posting anything on this board. If we are just satified with mediocore service, then these places are just going to keep slipping! That is just my opinion.

I certainly respect your opinion. This forum is just there for sharing opinions, which may differ. Readers will then make their own opinion.My experience is different from yours in a sense that I found service has improved with time... I must have gone for the first time at least 5-6 years ago, and I got very ordinary service then. But, as you say, I knew this was just a "washing and HJ serviie", and continued going. I then got recognised by the papa-san, and Japanese. But that has been enouh for him to give me girls very willing to serve. Again, I really think it hit or miss with regards to the woman you get. I would also like to stick with her, although you might think she is "an ugly cow", but her service was beyond description...She gave me her card, but I misplaced it....

[Nino]

Has anybody tried "Mai" at AM, the oldest one? I actually think 36 is a great age for J-women, and I like her photos.

[Goowest]

Hi Max.Yes. This is just assume.Kadoebi is famous for budget soap. So 15000 to 20000 service charge will be fair.

Thanks Goowest. How do you get to 25000? Just assume the girl charges 20000?

[Suomi2005]

Hi all,After a long while in which some of you posted on the the lack of activity in Shin Okubo, I have seen in the last couple of months or so some street walkers in the area between Kabuki-cho and Shin-Okubo station, in the small alleys East to the Yamanote tracks.I have seen a couple os Slavic looking women who asked for something about 20,000 yen plus hotel expenses.Yesterday, though, I saw a Colombian woman for 15,000 plus hotel fee. I accepted the deal and a terrible experience it was. This is my report:Nom de Guerre: MalenaDescription: Short, under 160 cm, I guess; but she wore thick-sole boots with heels. Big plastic boobs. Claimed to be 30. Scars: C-section, breasts. No tattoos. Not thin.Smoking: No.Experience: The deal was two services in the hotel. Up we went. Paid her and we both got naked and went into the bathtub. Then to the bed, put a condom on me immediately and started a non-enthusiastic short blow-job. She then asked for intercourse: missionary, doggy and cow-girl. She was quite theatrical at this. I came with her on top. Removed the condom and went to the bathtub right away. I joined her a while later and relaxed in there. Then she left and said that the time was over. I complained and demanded the second service. After discussing for a while she accepted a second round very (even more) unenthusiastically. Missionary and doggy. But she did not let me come. She did not even want to masturbate me. Got up and dressed.Not a girl-friend experience at all.Not a woman to repeat with.Total damage: 19,000 yenHope this helps.Cheers.

[Lion]

Rodmanj: Is this business for Japanese (speaking) customers only? Their website in English seems to invite inquiries from foreigners, but I seem to remember a year ago making a very frustrating and abortive phone call to them, in which they flat out said that no girls were available at any time that night. I took that to mean that they didn't deal with non-Japanese speaking foreigners.

A lot of places get fully booked at night, so it is not inconceivable. But you are right that perhaps they don't have staff to take orders in English. Plus the English speaking premium they charge is pretty steep!

[Homer69]

G Dawg, I'm sorry if you felt some of my comments were directed towards you. This is a public forum and I try to stay away from that sort of thing. What I write here is usually formulated for the benefit of those reading in the future because this list is archived forever. Truthfully, when I write things here, even if quoted, I don't pay attention to the author in order to remain as unbiased as possible. Again, I apologize if you feel you were singled out.That said, my messages with respect to NYNY/Champs/Kandaekimae were directed to the audience here in general and all future readers of this forum. I realize that collectively, we are a group of manic-depressive bi-polar sex maniacs, and I mean that collectively on average, not individually. Remember, that on average, a manic-depressive person is quite stable and it's just the extremes that get them into undesirable situations.I guess my real objective here is to set readers' expectations correctly, even lower than what is reality, instead of getting some guy all wired up and then totally disappointed when he comes away from a Chinese esute with little more than a sore member and lighter wallet. I think that's the problem with the Tokyo Pink Guide and I'm glad it's not being updated anymore because, although I really liked that site when it first showed up, it became abundantly clear that it was causing some of my favorite places to become "Sorry, Japanese Only" and I'm absolutely sure that naive readers of the TPG website had much to do with that.There are so few places available to us now that it's becoming extremely depressing. I know how to hunt down places that will accept me but it involves a ton of legwork, a ton of rejection, often quite a bit of negotiation and reassurance to the manager that I know the system, etc. I'll never share that in a public board because I know in a few weeks or months the "Sorry, Japanese Only" sign will show up and that's the end of it. I know quite a few Chinese esute that are foreigner-friendly and offer FS but the experience is hardly worth a mention because the ownership changes so often, the girls get cycled through very quickly and any review of the place is usually obsolete within a few months.The bottom line is, most foreigners don't know how to behave at fuzoku (sex trade) places and that's why we are all rejected. Here are the biggest flaws as I see them: 1. Aggressive behavior. This can be related to alcohol but just as easily not. When I say aggressive behavior, I mean no letting the lady take the lead. In most of these places, you are a passive participant and the lady will lead you to what is and is not permitted. Since there is most often no verbal communication in our native language, it's difficult for her to direct us except by sign language, etc. Many guys get the wrong impression and think they can take charge. It doesn't work that way. The exception might be FS Chinese places where the lady usually just lays down and spreads her legs and it's up to you to jump on top and get done as soon as possible. 2. Bad grooming. If you come in smelling like a skunk, unshaven, teeth not brushed, hair greasy and/or not really presentable, don't expect much in terms of positive mojo. Take a shower before going, even to a soapland and show up like you're going out for nampa in your better clothes and well groomed. Good grooming is not going to guarantee you anything, however, bad grooming is definitely going to cause problems in most cases. 3. Lastly, it's what I call attitude but some just call it 'tude or your mojo. When you go in, treat the place like it's a shrine, be humble, take off your shoes, keep your voice down, smile, be excessively polite. If you think this is BS, just watch how the Japanese behave. Almost all of them are polite to a fault, extremely courteous, quiet and humble and most certainly not behaving like macho-man lounge-loser the way a lot of foreigners behave. I think it's this behavior that scares these places and it's what gets us restricted from going. This is the most difficult thing to get across to people, too. I cringe when I think of two foreigners showing up to a place emboldened by a little alcohol, trying to be macho with each other, telling lies of their conquests, speaking loudly. This works OK at nightclubs in the US but it has no place in the fuzoku world in Japan. Show up sober, clean, humble and courteous.

I thought I need to clear a few things up, after a couple members of the board misunderstood some of my comments and ganged up on me.Just to be clear:1. I never expected a young, hot thing from these two places. Surely, I went in hoping that my provider will be at least friendly, and decent looking, but never did I expected young and hot body like some of the people have commented. I know this is not the place for that kind of providers. In fact, I have a steady provider at Champs who I think is great! She is definitely not young (late 30s), not busty (B), but she provides the most memorable service- decent wash and massage, friendly conversation, and the whole service package. I think I will just stick with her for now. So I am not biased to young, hot things as some of the feedbacks have suggested. I am looking for the read deal, with satifying service.2. My main complaint was when the service got started. The main purpose of a soapland is to get a wash, but as I have said, my two experiences at NYNY: one of them almost rubbed a skin off my thing with a dish washing sponge, and the other did a lacklaster wash and told me to dip in the tub. If you can't even provide the very basic service of a soapland, then there is no point. If the service is good, surely I can overlook the appearance. But in this case, the service was uncomfortable to say the least.3. The service at both of these places has been praised over and over in the past years. Everyone went on and on about the service they've been getting. Never once did anyone mention that this is just a 'simple wash and hand release' place. Surely, YMMV, but I think the praises all these years has created somewhat an illusion, and maybe false advertising about these places. So hopefully, my review will bring attention to some of the more picky members on this board.4. I was never disrespectful to the manager or the providers. Surely, I am not exactly Mr. Friendly, but surely I know I wasn't rude, as some members have feared that I might get a bad name for foreigners. I carry on friendly conversations to the best of my ability, and when everything is finished, I bowed and said thank you like Japaneses do. The buttomline is, I noticed the service is not as good as the past reviews have indicated. And I chose to share that information with those who cares. And if we can't strive for better, than what is the point of posting anything on this board. If we are just satified with mediocore service, then these places are just going to keep slipping! That is just my opinion.

[Max220]

Thanks Goowest. How do you get to 25000? Just assume the girl charges 20000?

That is KADOEBI-SHIBUYA. KADOEBI group has some Soaplands in and around Tokyo includes Yoshiwara. Most of them are budget class. I found a website of KODOEBI-SHIBUYA and it says their entrance fee is 5000y (50min). So it will cost around 25000y.But I do not know if they are foreigner friendly or not.