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[Detwing1]

Japanese women also suffer high rates of mental illness, which the society does not talk about and conceals using psychotic drugs. This makes many women open to adultery, gangbang bukkake, and starring in hardcore gonzo porn (hamedori). Japanese OLs have an especially strong desire to have their hairy cracks stretched out by BBC. You can say that BBC is kryptonite to Japanese OLs.

I've seen the same regarding mental illness when living there. Met a girl in a bar one night and noticed that she seemed a bit "off" when talking-to her. At first I chalked it up to my rudimentary Japanese skills at the time. However, when she reached across the table to get her drink, I noticed what looked like razor blade scars up and down her arm.

Needless to say, I didn't pursue that one.

[Detwing1]

Since you mention HUB I'm assuming the one in Yokohama, one night near Hinedocho station

I've actually had the opportunity to partake in a few Delivery services that advertised as "Housewives" and looking at them they were just that. I met a few who said their husbands had no idea of what they are doing, and that they never have sex on a regular basis so this is a way for them to make a few bucks and have sex. Unfortunately the service I used that did come down to Yokosuka is no longer accepting us gaijin I guess due to COVID but I am sure when things open back up they will again be taking foreigners.

PM me and I will see if I can find the links to the ones I know.

"Since you mention HUB I'm assuming the one in Yokohama, one night near Hinedocho station" = Actually I was living in Nagoya and it was one of the 3 HUBS there, but I've been to a few HUBS in Tokyo and Yokohama as well. Basically a chain of gaijin bars.

"I've actually had the opportunity to partake in a few Delivery services that advertised as "Housewives"" = If I recall correctly, the cost is 10,000 JPY, but no full service. 99% certain I've used the same exact service a few times.

[Chocha Monger]

The Japanese are not encumbered by Judeo-Christian morals like we are in the west. Accordingly, there is less stigma attached to adultery, gang bang bukake, sniffing teenage girls' soiled panties, becoming a gravure model or acting in a JAV.

Japan produces more hard core porn than any other country. I read somewhere that around 10,000 JAV movies are made a year. So on any given day, 27 porn movies are being shot in Tokyo. To fuel this beast, they need thousands of young, budding porn actresses. The same report said that 1 in 20 girls in the 18-25 age group in Tokyo had acted in one of these productions. Most are OLs or retail chicks supplementing their low wage or are girls coerced into it to pay off gambling debts or liquor bills from the night clubs.

The majority are just one hit wonders and use the cash to buy that luxury Italian handbag or expensive cosmetics, before quitting. They are prepared to take the risk because the chance of being discovered is so low given the huge volume of movies being released every week. Nowadays, producers like to churn through the new talent to keep the costs down.

Japanese women also suffer high rates of mental illness, which the society does not talk about and conceals using psychotic drugs. This makes many women open to adultery, gangbang bukkake, and starring in hardcore gonzo porn (hamedori). Japanese OLs have an especially strong desire to have their hairy cracks stretched out by BBC. You can say that BBC is kryptonite to Japanese OLs.

[Drbombay]

My tourist work in Australia involved a lot of honeymooners on wedding+holiday package tours. It was obvious that a lot of them were uncomfortable with each other. Presumably arranged marriages (like the school teachers) with little prior "social knowledge" of each other. The ultimate put down was one girl who decided she'd had enough and walked out on the husband on their second day here. She went "missing" during a shopping event, which sparked a massive police search. She was discovered hiding out in a suburban motel about 3 weeks later. I saw interviews with the husband later on TV; he came across as very arrogant and I don't blame her for leaving him.

One J girlfriend I had for a while here was quite attracted to me, but she was insistent that she would only marry a J guy and live in Japan. She went back home, but we kept in touch. On my next trip there, she came down to Tokyo to meet me, and took me to her family home in Toyama for a few days. When I asked her about her marriage plans, she said she had been going to Tokyo to find a husband through omiyage service. When I asked about her boyfriend, she "didn't know him well enough".

They call those Narita marriages since by the time they go on their honeymoon's by the time they fly back to Narita the marriage is over.

[Drbombay]

Ha. I had something similar to that. Met an unhappily married MILF at HUB one night. Her husband was the typical J-salaryman (sitting at office till 8 or 9 pm / drinking with officemates after work, etc, etc). Ended up we would meet at least once or twice a month though, until she started getting a little crazy on me.

Since you mention HUB I'm assuming the one in Yokohama, one night near Hinedocho station I went to this little strip bar around the corner from the KFC. The night I went they had some S&M shows and actors (male and female) performing on stage. If you've been to a typical Japanese hole in the wall strip place, you will see men sitting around the stage, clapping at the performances drinking canned beers from a vending machine. After each performer the lights come up, and the customers can pay 1000 yen ($10) to buy a polaroid picture of them with the entertainer or to cop a feel. The night I was there with the S&M show, after she performed, they laid out sheets that looked like the ones you put in a baby's crib to catch the night pissing that babies do and then asked for people to come on stage. Average looking J-salarymen would rush to the stage and lay down and open their mouths, and this chick would literally take a "piss" over them and they would drink it. My friend and I were the only gaijins in the place and we fell out laughing. The whole point of the story, yes many of the J-salarymen do stay out late drinking and going to bars and clubs, and doing all sorts of other things that by the time they get home no energy for the wife and they get frustrated and give it up to anyone willing to talk to them.

I've actually had the opportunity to partake in a few Delivery services that advertised as "Housewives" and looking at them they were just that. I met a few who said their husbands had no idea of what they are doing, and that they never have sex on a regular basis so this is a way for them to make a few bucks and have sex. Unfortunately the service I used that did come down to Yokosuka is no longer accepting us gaijin I guess due to COVID but I am sure when things open back up they will again be taking foreigners.

PM me and I will see if I can find the links to the ones I know.

[AussieGaigin]

My tourist work in Australia involved a lot of honeymooners on wedding+holiday package tours. It was obvious that a lot of them were uncomfortable with each other. Presumably arranged marriages (like the school teachers) with little prior "social knowledge" of each other. The ultimate put down was one girl who decided she'd had enough and walked out on the husband on their second day here. She went "missing" during a shopping event, which sparked a massive police search. She was discovered hiding out in a suburban motel about 3 weeks later. I saw interviews with the husband later on TV; he came across as very arrogant and I don't blame her for leaving him.

One J girlfriend I had for a while here was quite attracted to me, but she was insistent that she would only marry a J guy and live in Japan. She went back home, but we kept in touch. On my next trip there, she came down to Tokyo to meet me, and took me to her family home in Toyama for a few days. When I asked her about her marriage plans, she said she had been going to Tokyo to find a husband through omiyage service. When I asked about her boyfriend, she "didn't know him well enough".

[Engine Driver]

What I found out and now it's probably more so due to the COVID situation and workers being laid off, that in the past some of those good "OLs" were moonlighting in the Delivery Health / Hostess business to make ends meet. There is a huge disparity in the pay between males and females in Japan, and it's not strange to find a female making less than a male at the same company with the same qualifications and starting at the same time. So a few of them I knew would spend their precious few free hours doing the "wet business" as they call it. If you know how Office dynamics work in Japanese companies this can be hard since many times you are required to go out drinking with the team until late hours and then be back at the grind the next morning. But a few did manage to find a way to make ends meet.

The Japanese are not encumbered by Judeo-Christian morals like we are in the west. Accordingly, there is less stigma attached to adultery, gang bang bukake, sniffing teenage girls' soiled panties, becoming a gravure model or acting in a JAV.

Japan produces more hard core porn than any other country. I read somewhere that around 10,000 JAV movies are made a year. So on any given day, 27 porn movies are being shot in Tokyo. To fuel this beast, they need thousands of young, budding porn actresses. The same report said that 1 in 20 girls in the 18-25 age group in Tokyo had acted in one of these productions. Most are OLs or retail chicks supplementing their low wage or are girls coerced into it to pay off gambling debts or liquor bills from the night clubs.

The majority are just one hit wonders and use the cash to buy that luxury Italian handbag or expensive cosmetics, before quitting. They are prepared to take the risk because the chance of being discovered is so low given the huge volume of movies being released every week. Nowadays, producers like to churn through the new talent to keep the costs down.

[Detwing1]

Traditionally, OLs just had "jobs", not careers. These jobs were mundane "office duty" tasks like making tea, doing photocopying for the males, running errands, etc. Females were expected to be retired and married off by the time they turned 25, so there was no point in them getting qualifications or experience.

Even if they made it into a career, the age limit seemed to apply. My first encounter with a J lady was about 40 years ago at a Club Med in Noumea. She was a school teacher on honeymoon with her school teacher husband. She would have been at the "marrying age" and her husband a couple of years older. She was pretty and outgoing, he was quite grumpy and introverted- a typical "old school" type teacher who did everything by the book. I knew absolutely nothing about Japan or Japanese at that time, but in later hindsight I worked out that the school had decided she had to go, he was probably also almost past marrying age, so the whole thing was arranged by the school to save face. I'd met them one night at a shared dinner table, but after that I noticed that she'd often come to the cabaret shows and night club alone. One night I asked where he was; she said he was asleep already and wasn't interested in nocturnal activities. On her last night there, she got a bit drunk in the night club and confided that he didn't like sex, and they only had it once in the week they were there. Had a couple of dances with her, and she started to show signs of arousal. I suggested we go for a walk outside; we found a nice secluded location and she went for it. Afterwards, she went back to her room; they left the next morning so I never saw her again.

My real adventures began a couple of years later when I fluked a job in the Japanese tourism industry here.

Ha. I had something similar to that. Met an unhappily married MILF at HUB one night. Her husband was the typical J-salaryman (sitting at office till 8 or 9 pm / drinking with officemates after work, etc, etc). Ended up we would meet at least once or twice a month though, until she started getting a little crazy on me.

[AussieGaigin]

Traditionally, OLs just had "jobs", not careers. These jobs were mundane "office duty" tasks like making tea, doing photocopying for the males, running errands, etc. Females were expected to be retired and married off by the time they turned 25, so there was no point in them getting qualifications or experience.

Even if they made it into a career, the age limit seemed to apply. My first encounter with a J lady was about 40 years ago at a Club Med in Noumea. She was a school teacher on honeymoon with her school teacher husband. She would have been at the "marrying age" and her husband a couple of years older. She was pretty and outgoing, he was quite grumpy and introverted- a typical "old school" type teacher who did everything by the book. I knew absolutely nothing about Japan or Japanese at that time, but in later hindsight I worked out that the school had decided she had to go, he was probably also almost past marrying age, so the whole thing was arranged by the school to save face. I'd met them one night at a shared dinner table, but after that I noticed that she'd often come to the cabaret shows and night club alone. One night I asked where he was; she said he was asleep already and wasn't interested in nocturnal activities. On her last night there, she got a bit drunk in the night club and confided that he didn't like sex, and they only had it once in the week they were there. Had a couple of dances with her, and she started to show signs of arousal. I suggested we go for a walk outside; we found a nice secluded location and she went for it. Afterwards, she went back to her room; they left the next morning so I never saw her again.

My real adventures began a couple of years later when I fluked a job in the Japanese tourism industry here.

[Drbombay]

Very true. Brings back good memories of picking up OL's when I lived in Nagoya. As you say, any foreigner, LIVING IN Japan, with reasonable social skills and appearance should have NO problem picking up an OL. Just leave the cut off jeans and flip flops at home though (that only works in PH or Thai).

Once I learned the ropes, after the first month of living there, it was game on. It was the same for all of my foreigner friends.

However, for the short term visitor, I suspect it would be almost impossible.

What I found out and now it's probably more so due to the COVID situation and workers being laid off, that in the past some of those good "OLs" were moonlighting in the Delivery Health / Hostess business to make ends meet. There is a huge disparity in the pay between males and females in Japan, and it's not strange to find a female making less than a male at the same company with the same qualifications and starting at the same time. So a few of them I knew would spend their precious few free hours doing the "wet business" as they call it. If you know how Office dynamics work in Japanese companies this can be hard since many times you are required to go out drinking with the team until late hours and then be back at the grind the next morning. But a few did manage to find a way to make ends meet.

[Detwing1]

There are millions of OLs in Tokyo. Anyone with reasonable social skills should be able to pick one up without any problem. RTFF here and in the Nampa thread for clues.

There is a "Private Message" function on this site where you are ask other members for personal information.

Very true. Brings back good memories of picking up OL's when I lived in Nagoya. As you say, any foreigner, LIVING IN Japan, with reasonable social skills and appearance should have NO problem picking up an OL. Just leave the cut off jeans and flip flops at home though (that only works in PH or Thai).

Once I learned the ropes, after the first month of living there, it was game on. It was the same for all of my foreigner friends.

However, for the short term visitor, I suspect it would be almost impossible.

[SBlack0070]

Two-week mongers to Japan are not going to have much luck with OLs. You need to spend time in country, immerse yourself in the culture and learn how things works socially. Two-week mongers are better off going to soaplands, THC or delivery health services catering to foreigners.

Foreigners have "social rank" in Japan depending on where they come from and it helps if they can offer something which is "cool" or unattainable to the girls. In your case it was access to the military base and the perceived glamour of associating with a black US serviceman. Trevor Houchen was a DJ, singer and magazine publisher so girls flocked to him. Stefhen Bryan was an English teacher in rural areas, so a 6'4" black dude walking around the country side was a novelty. He milked his Jamaican roots for all they were worth. He was not particular about who he fucked and serviced a number of lonely MILFs. Most importantly, the girls were all curious about BBC!

Messrs Harrera and Black will need to spend time in country and come up with a USP to wow those OLs.

Yeah I agree it's more of a social and cultural experience or rather a change which we must have to score an OL.

They are ladies with certain needs and that we have to understand once again with empathy and compassion.

It will take lot of time for sure for us to get into the world of OLs and once successful we might have a wonderful time.

My first OL experience is still awaited so let's hope she turns up with her buddy.

[AussieGaigin]

Going back a few years I was a semi-regular 2-week monger in Japan in the 1980-90's.

I worked as a service provider for numerous Japanese tourist companies in Australia, so was well versed in their cultural aspects. There was an unlimited supply of OL types here to practice on.

I learned much "sexucation" and "sexiquette" from the publications of Boye de Mente, a prolific author of books dealing with all things Japanese, including women and night life.

There was limited social media in those days, but I had no difficulty in finding OLs for a ONS. Jusat a matter of being prepared, it is not like gertting an OL in Phils or Thailand.

[Engine Driver]

Very true words. Read both books and have been in Japan since 2000 for 15 years, and came back in 2017 and if you are a Black American you will have somewhat of a better chance with some types of OL, especially if you are associated with the US military bases. Back when I was "out there" the fact that I was Black, American and had access to the bases was a key factor in my getting laid more than normal since most of the girls wound up asking me to take them to the base to eat at Taco Bell (believe it or not) and to shop, mainly for Coach bags since we don't pay taxes on those items on the bases and compared to a Japanese story you could see almost a 25% mark-up in taxes (so much for trade barriers). I have also seen many women who fell prey to Blacks from Nigeria and other African nations who told the women they had base access but never took them there because they were lying to them. Ran into one or two who gave me sob stories about trusting too much and getting burnt.

These days, from what I am seeing if you can at least carry a conversation, and one important thing, if you are going to be here an extended stay it's much easier (and cheaper) if you can cook since I've never met so many women who were not familiar with cooking themselves and see it as a novelty that a man knows how to cook for himself.

Good Hunting!

Two-week mongers to Japan are not going to have much luck with OLs. You need to spend time in country, immerse yourself in the culture and learn how things works socially. Two-week mongers are better off going to soaplands, THC or delivery health services catering to foreigners.

Foreigners have "social rank" in Japan depending on where they come from and it helps if they can offer something which is "cool" or unattainable to the girls. In your case it was access to the military base and the perceived glamour of associating with a black US serviceman. Trevor Houchen was a DJ, singer and magazine publisher so girls flocked to him. Stefhen Bryan was an English teacher in rural areas, so a 6'4" black dude walking around the country side was a novelty. He milked his Jamaican roots for all they were worth. He was not particular about who he fucked and serviced a number of lonely MILFs. Most importantly, the girls were all curious about BBC!

Messrs Harrera and Black will need to spend time in country and come up with a USP to wow those OLs.

[Drbombay]

African Americans and Jamaicans have a lot of success in Japan because they are considered cool. Their culture, music, dance etc. Japanese girls go crazy for BBC. You should read "Black Passenger Yellow Cabs: A Memoir of Exile and Excess" by Stefhen F. The. Bryan and "The Eternal Outsider: 10 Years Black In Japan" by Trevor David Houchen before you go. It will be an eye opener.

Very true words. Read both books and have been in Japan since 2000 for 15 years, and came back in 2017 and if you are a Black American you will have somewhat of a better chance with some types of OL, especially if you are associated with the US military bases. Back when I was "out there" the fact that I was Black, American and had access to the bases was a key factor in my getting laid more than normal since most of the girls wound up asking me to take them to the base to eat at Taco Bell (believe it or not) and to shop, mainly for Coach bags since we don't pay taxes on those items on the bases and compared to a Japanese story you could see almost a 25% mark-up in taxes (so much for trade barriers). I have also seen many women who fell prey to Blacks from Nigeria and other African nations who told the women they had base access but never took them there because they were lying to them. Ran into one or two who gave me sob stories about trusting too much and getting burnt.

These days, from what I am seeing if you can at least carry a conversation, and one important thing, if you are going to be here an extended stay it's much easier (and cheaper) if you can cook since I've never met so many women who were not familiar with cooking themselves and see it as a novelty that a man knows how to cook for himself.

Good Hunting!