Tokyo

[Dreams]

Personally can't offer anything specific, but to get you started type Soapland Yoshiwara in the search mode of this forum, rtff. If you want to spend 30, 000 yen most suggest taking a stroll around the Yoshiwara area during 'off hours' to check out what's available. If you're into making an appointment and having a car pick you up from an agreed upon station, then plan on spending 70, 000 yen +. In short, you'll need to go to the Yoshiwara area of Tokyo for a soapland. As for Osaka, I hear its slim pickens even for the seasoned mongers there, but then again if I were you I'd rtff. One thing I can almost promise you is that no matter what amount of money you throw at a soapland, your chances of ending up with a stunner are very, very slim; expect OK to mediocre for the novice gaijin customer but the service end can be great!

You can still get decent service for around 30, 000, inc gaijin tax. I paid this last year and got the 80 min course, with mat play, choice of girls, pick up and drop off at the yamanote station etc.

RTFF a few pages back, and you will get the info.

It is true that wandering around Yoshiwara at off peak hours will get you some interesting deals. Better though to have basic jaapanese conversation skills, but there will be shops wihich will still propose you even if you are the dumbest of gaijin. Make sure that the price offered is the "all included" and not just the entry fee.

Good luck, it is worth a try.

[PorkLobster]

Dear Mr Pork Lobster.

Can I ask if you have had any good experiences at KDH recently?

The past few have been so-so. OK, but nothing to write home about really. Mind you, I can't afford to go that often!

The last truly great experience was back in January with the legendary Lucky of now sadly defunct Eve. She was not only very sexy but a genuinely interesting person too, someone I would have loved to get to know for real. We got so carried away talking during the interval that there was no time for the second round, but never mind. We made a deal to meet again ASAP. Then, unfortunately, she had to go back to Korea for a couple of weeks and apparently never came back, and now the shop is gone too. Aahh.

[PorkLobster]

Adding to the shitty exerience at Clover, I had a discount ticket for 5000 at Clover, but as it turned out, it was only valid if you were a first time customer and you took the 3 hour course.

Too bad about your bad experience! Remember that you are free to cancel if you don't like the look or the attitude of the girl, but only before you decide on the course. The flipside is of course that you then have to find someone else at a moment's notice, so you should always have a list of other numbers to call. But you need that anyway, in case the girl doesn't like the look of you (ie. A gaijin)! That happens too.

If you find a girl ugly it will probably show on your face, which will turn her off, etc. Nothing good will come of that.

Regarding the discounts, if they are available at all they are generally on the order of 2000 for 100 minutes, and perhaps 3000 for 120 minutes and 5000 for 180 minutes. Usually no discount for 80 minutes. In either case, you need to work out those details with the mama-san when you make the booking, and not with the girl.

[Ektelontt]

Dear Mr Pork Lobster.

Can I ask if you have had any good experiences at KDH recently?

I've used http://www.kanbi-dh.com/top.php A few times and each visit was amazing. The girls that work there regularly get fantastic reviews, and all of my discounts have been honored without any fuss. I even took part in there "keyword campaign" where you text a keyword in every day for a month or something and each day you win a random amount off. I wound up with a free 80 minute course! I had one girl fall asleep on me after round one, but I didn't mind because she cuddled up against me real tight and round one was some of the best I ever had. The mama-san found out because the girl answered the time up call with a super sleepy voice and I was offered 5000 yen off the next visit. I was sure to get the same girl the next time because I had a lovely time and I didn't want her to feel bad about something I really didn't mind. She was pretty happy about it.

Unfortunately, they had a complete staff overhaul recently (the reviews for the new girls are as good as they've always been) so none of the girls I had are still there. All the girls were attractive and I've heard that the mama-san at the shop is super super strict with the girls and goes into a rage if they don't perform at 100, which is probably why I've received consistently good service and the reviews are good.

I'm not 100% sure about full gaijin friendliness but it's always worth a try.

[LoveShibuyaGirls]

Dear Mr Pork Lobster.

Can I ask if you have had any good experiences at KDH recently?

[LoveShibuyaGirls]

Adding to the shitty exerience at Clover, I had a discount ticket for 5000 at Clover, but as it turned out, it was only valid if you were a first time customer and you took the 3 hour course.

Well, yes and no. Many of the shops offer similar discounts on their homepages, but whether they will actually honor them is a different matter. Don't count on it. Some discounts are only valid, say, on weekdays before 5 PM, or only for longer courses, or only if you let the shop pick the girl. Sometimes the person on the phone just simply doesn't know anything about any discount at all.

The worst, however, is when they do in fact seem to honor the discount, but take it all out of the girl's cut, which means that you get off to a bad start and probably won't receive top service.

If a shop I plan to use does offer a discount I usually ask them about that beforehand. I remember one shop that offered a 2000 yen discount and the mama-san said it was 50-50 between the shop and the girl, so I took the discount but then gave the girl back her share and everybody was happy.

[PorkLobster]

I'm not sure if the KDH experts have already figured this out, but many of the info booths arond Uguisuidani distribute magazines with discount tickets for KDH shops. You can save up to 5000.

Well, yes and no. Many of the shops offer similar discounts on their homepages, but whether they will actually honor them is a different matter. Don't count on it. Some discounts are only valid, say, on weekdays before 5 PM, or only for longer courses, or only if you let the shop pick the girl. Sometimes the person on the phone just simply doesn't know anything about any discount at all.

The worst, however, is when they do in fact seem to honor the discount, but take it all out of the girl's cut, which means that you get off to a bad start and probably won't receive top service.

If a shop I plan to use does offer a discount I usually ask them about that beforehand. I remember one shop that offered a 2000 yen discount and the mama-san said it was 50-50 between the shop and the girl, so I took the discount but then gave the girl back her share and everybody was happy.

[Cheap]

Hi,

Also do you usually pay by cash or card?

Thanks

Cash. This is Japan, but you're not shopping at Takashimaya. Stay safe out there.

[LoveShibuyaGirls]

I had a lousy experience with Kei from Clover KDH.

http://www.k-lover.com/profile.html?actress_id=130707

This is the closest I have come to having a genuine rip-off experience in P4P in Japan.

She looked much worse than her photos, which of course, is to be expected at KDH. Her body was OK, but her face was UGLY. I was hard up, so I still went for 100 minutes, which is supposed to be 2 shots.

Kei refused DFK, gave a half-assed BJ, and lay there like a dead fish during FS and kept on bitching about how it hurt.

She was such a ***** I didn't feel like waiting around for the second shot, so I tried to change the course to 80 minutes, but was told NG. I left anyways.

All of the girls I have gotten from Clover have been underwhelming, but this was by the far the worst. I am convinced that Clover gets the ugliest girls in KDH, which is perhaps why they are the most open to gaijin. Take my advice. Stay away from this shop.

[Really Now]

Hi,

I'm a first time poster here. I'm heading back to Japan and I've been interested in trying out a soapland. Anyone have good recommendations for gaijin friendly soaplands in Shibuya / nearby areas and Osaka? Please recommend any girls too.

Also do you usually pay by cash or card?

Thanks

Personally can't offer anything specific, but to get you started type Soapland Yoshiwara in the search mode of this forum, rtff. If you want to spend 30, 000 yen most suggest taking a stroll around the Yoshiwara area during 'off hours' to check out what's available. If you're into making an appointment and having a car pick you up from an agreed upon station, then plan on spending 70, 000 yen +. In short, you'll need to go to the Yoshiwara area of Tokyo for a soapland. As for Osaka, I hear its slim pickens even for the seasoned mongers there, but then again if I were you I'd rtff. One thing I can almost promise you is that no matter what amount of money you throw at a soapland, your chances of ending up with a stunner are very, very slim; expect OK to mediocre for the novice gaijin customer but the service end can be great!

[LoveShibuyaGirls]

I'm not sure if the KDH experts have already figured this out, but many of the info booths arond Uguisuidani distribute magazines with discount tickets for KDH shops. You can save up to 5000.

[LoveShibuyaGirls]

Don't hold your breath.

To: Dreams, Cheap, Aussiegaigin & Taipan68,

Thanks so much for your advice which are most useful. BTW, Hinomaru's website is alive after a face revamp. I shall definitely try Hinomaru, Jan Jan, Dio / Emotion if my pocket is deep enough.

It is unfortunate that most pink salons with young girls turn away non Japanese speaking people. Let's hope the culture will change and more GF pink salons with young girls will appear in the future.

[DustBunnies]

Hi,

I'm a first time poster here. I'm heading back to Japan and I've been interested in trying out a soapland. Anyone have good recommendations for gaijin friendly soaplands in Shibuya / nearby areas and Osaka? Please recommend any girls too.

Also do you usually pay by cash or card?

Thanks

[Pollack Sydney]

To: Dreams, Cheap, Aussiegaigin & Taipan68,

Thanks so much for your advice which are most useful. BTW, Hinomaru's website is alive after a face revamp. I shall definitely try Hinomaru, Jan Jan, Dio / Emotion if my pocket is deep enough.

It is unfortunate that most pink salons with young girls turn away non Japanese speaking people. Let's hope the culture will change and more GF pink salons with young girls will appear in the future.

[Dreams]

There's also New Hot Point in Shinjuku. Someone did an in-depth writeup on this a while back. It's a strip show with an optional CBJ.

Forgot to add that, comparing what you get at NHP for 6000 with what you get at Hinomaru for 4000 (or 3000 at JanJAn) says it all. At Hinomaru / JanJAn, you get a fully naked girl giving a full BBJCIm, whle you can finger her, kiss, lick, be licked etc. But it is true that the girls at NHP are hotter.

Your choice.