Tokyo

[OldGeezer]

There are far more gaijin friendly places than one can imagine. And the proof that the lack of communication is a true reason for the socalled discrimination is that, since I can speak a bit of Japanese, I can now get into places that were until now closed to me.

True. Sometimes you need to use time and effort to find those, but there is plenty of places that will welcome you. Therefore I see no reason to get too upset about the situation. To put it more direct; it is not exactly one of the human rights to get your dick sucked so get over the rejections.

It is a genuine concern of the japanese providers not to be able to explain to a foreigner what is allowed and what is not.

I would say it is a genuine concern of all Japanese to try to avoid confrontation. Same goes for the shops and even more as most of the customers are more or less toxicated when visiting. It is much easier to refuse entry than trying to argue later with a 6'4".200 pound drunken guy who is pissed as he did not get the service he wanted.

[OldGeezer]

Bad BJ technique, too much sucking "hoover style", anyway I painfully managed to cum.

Next time try Milk. (Not the drink but the girl called "miruku" in hiragana). I do not like the long wait in NHP or the cramped booths or the short service times but she makes it well worth to visit from time to time when I am in Shinjuku.

Next: Oppai club. I remember, years ago, maybe 5-7, I found one in Shinjuku gaijin friendly. But now? Anyone can help? I know it is also quite expensive for just kissing and touching breast, but, again, it is different, and I would like to go again, at least once.

These all seem to have disappeared from the scene. Bad whiskey and good girls does not sound like a killer combination but yes, if someone knows any places I will be happy to test ride them (smile).

[Lazietony]

After reading the forums, it was said that yu-min. Tv has girls who offer AF. However it seems they are not gaijin friendly as they didn't reply to my email inquiry. Can anyone confirm this? Any other ideas or suggestions?

[JohnnyGolfr]

As Jackson said, please use PM. I don't want to make problems for you or anyone else.

If you can't PM me, then please do not post the info here.

Thanks for your understanding!

Hi,

I met her in Osaka originally. She is beautiful, sophisticated and very hot. I paid her about 30, 000 an hour but she was worth every penny.

A couple of times I asked her to accompany me on a trip to Nagoya and Kobe and she was a perfect companion. We worked out an all day and night rate. Don't remember exactly what it was now.

I have also sent her to tickets to visit me in Hong Kong and Tokyo when I have been on business trips to those cities.

Black girls are rare in Asia and she is really great. I would highly recommend her if you can afford her. Hope that info is useful!

[Dreams]

had been there once only a long time back, somdecided togive it another try.

i don; t thinkanything has changes.

for the newbies, just a short summary:

you get to the 9th floor, pay your 2000 yens entry fee, give your cell phone, choose which of the 2 girls you want (on a slide show) and sit down with your number. if the waiting room is empty, you may wait longer than if it full since it works by batches, of 8 to 10 guys (that's the number of booths). i was the fourth when i arrived, and had to wait 20-30 minutes. we were 9 when we were called, and i think all of us got in.

you are shown your booth. soon after, your chosen girl arrives and asks you, in japanese, which service you want. it's 2000 fo hj and no touching. 3000 for hj and breast touching, and 4000 for cbj and breast touching. if you don't speak japanese, just give her the amount of money required, she will perform accordingly. you pay her, she goes. the peep show starts. make yourself confortable while this goes on. the 2 girls are really pretty, but the show is ordinary. they don't even take their panty off. when the show is over, about 10 min later, you wait till your girls come. depending how long your neighbour takes, it may take some time. make sure you are "ready" when it's your turn.

then a knock on the door, and here she comes. you stand against the wall, she cleans your hands, takes her top off, put the condom (which is why you better be "ready") , sucks you, while you can put one hand on one breast. bad bj technique, too much sucking "hoover style", anyway i painfully managed to cum. then quick cleaning, arigato, sayonara. dress up, get out of the booth, and don't forget to pick up your cell phone.

finally: 6000 for a cbj by an, arguably pretty, semi clothed girl. obvioulsy not competitive with the 4000 you pay for the bbbj with all touching, fingering, kissing etc, that you may get at, say, hinomaru. wir? no, but i am happy to have gone, since i always like to explore all of what is on offer wherever i go, and this is quite unique. so been there, done it.

next: oppai club. i remember, years ago, maybe 5-7, i found one in shinjuku gaijin friendly. but now? anyone can help? i know it is also quite expensive for just kissing and touching breast, but, again, it is different, and i would like to go again, at least once.

[CockHorse21]

Hi,

I met her in Osaka originally. She is beautiful, sophisticated and very hot. I paid her about 30, 000 an hour but she was worth every penny.

A couple of times I asked her to accompany me on a trip to Nagoya and Kobe and she was a perfect companion. We worked out an all day and night rate. Don't remember exactly what it was now.

I have also sent her to tickets to visit me in Hong Kong and Tokyo when I have been on business trips to those cities.

Black girls are rare in Asia and she is really great. I would highly recommend her if you can afford her. Hope that info is useful!

PM me with info, please!

[Dreams]

This is a duplicate post as I also posted it in the Yokohama's thread.

Seems that recently, some reports good service for gaijins form Yokohama soaplands.

While there are less form Yoshiwara.

I used to go to Yoshiwara in the past, and ususally found places that would take gaijins, and service them for about 3 man all included. But I am not sure if such places still exist. For eaxmaple, King's club is now Gaijin dame.

Any comment would be useful to me, and I guess, to the community as well, since, after all, Yokohama is just 30 min trin ride form Central Tokyo, so not a big deal to go there is if service and choices are better.

Thanks

[Dreams]

To quote Bender from Futurama "What? This is the worst kind of discrimination! The kind against me!"

I grew up as an Asian kid in a predominately Caucasian area of the US and I can definitely tell you that discrimination in the west is far greater towards "foreigners," which is ironic because almost everyone in America is technically a foreigner. Anyways for some people, being turned away at the door in Japan is their first experience with racial discrimination. But as been stated on the forum many times, communication is the main issue. Imagine you were a small lady with a large male customer who can't understand you when you tell him to stop doing something you don't like. It's scary! Learning at least some very basic Japanese goes a LONG way. Even though I can pass as a Japanese person from looks, I initially was turned away from places when I first came to Japan because I couldn't understand the tencho. Now I have no problems getting into places after I've established to the shop that I can understand Japanese. I know my accent gives me away, but it's been no problem because I can communicate properly. I've even had chats with the tencho with him asking "Wow, your Japanese is pretty good, where are you from and how long have you been in Japan?"

Your experience is entirely similar to mine, even though I am a white Caucasian. As soon as they hear me saying a few japanese words, the attitude changes.

Hope that any newbie going to Japan from the West will read this and adjust his attitude based on your comments.

[CockHorse21]

PM me with info, please!

Hi, not sure how to PM you. Could you explain and I will send her details?

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[Ektelontt]

After visiting and doing business in Japan for over 30 years, I have never really understood the reasons behind the prejudice. Depending on the circumstances or the venue involved, most of my Japanese friends and business partners usually explain it as the lack of English language skills and the inability to service me in the best way because of it. Are they just being polite?

By now, I have learned what places are gaijin friendly and navigate that way when I monger. If I do meet the "Japanese Only" situation, I just smile and move on.

On the other hand, I can understand the frustration. Nobody likes to be discriminated against. It is just that getting angry and confrontational does not get you anywhere in Japan.

Just my POV.

OAH

To quote Bender from Futurama "What? This is the worst kind of discrimination! The kind against me!"

I grew up as an Asian kid in a predominately Caucasian area of the US and I can definitely tell you that discrimination in the west is far greater towards "foreigners," which is ironic because almost everyone in America is technically a foreigner. Anyways for some people, being turned away at the door in Japan is their first experience with racial discrimination. But as been stated on the forum many times, communication is the main issue. Imagine you were a small lady with a large male customer who can't understand you when you tell him to stop doing something you don't like. It's scary! Learning at least some very basic Japanese goes a LONG way. Even though I can pass as a Japanese person from looks, I initially was turned away from places when I first came to Japan because I couldn't understand the tencho. Now I have no problems getting into places after I've established to the shop that I can understand Japanese. I know my accent gives me away, but it's been no problem because I can communicate properly. I've even had chats with the tencho with him asking "Wow, your Japanese is pretty good, where are you from and how long have you been in Japan?"

[Primusduvel]

Hello Folks,

Just trying to get some info, I have seen in the past that some of you know places that can get you AV Idols, I am interesting in trying to get TIA or Sophia Takigawa is kind of a fantasy of myself, I have lived in Japan fro a couple of years and speak decent japanese but in the past I have hit dead ends with this info.

If someone could share some tips or leads will be much apreciated!

Regards

[Dreams]

After visiting and doing business in Japan for over 30 years, I have never really understood the reasons behind the prejudice. Depending on the circumstances or the venue involved, most of my Japanese friends and business partners usually explain it as the lack of English language skills and the inability to service me in the best way because of it. Are they just being polite?

By now, I have learned what places are gaijin friendly and navigate that way when I monger. If I do meet the "Japanese Only" situation, I just smile and move on.

On the other hand, I can understand the frustration. Nobody likes to be discriminated against. It is just that getting angry and confrontational does not get you anywhere in Japan.

Just my POV.

OAH

No disagreement there. There are far more gaijin friendly places than one can imagine. And the proof that the lack of communication is a true reason for the socalled discrimination is that, since I can speak a bit of Japanese, I can now get into places that were until now closed to me. It is a genuine concern of the japanese providers not to be able to explain to a foreigner what is allowed and what is not. Last, discrimintion of all sorts (gender, money, race, religion.) is at least as widely spread in the West, it is just hypocritically hidden. The Japanese say things as they are, and I, for one, prefer this attitude.

[RCA Knight]

Actually there are fewer and fewer absolutely Japanese only shops nowadays. If gaijin goes with Japanese member, most shops would not mind. A Brazilian friend living in Tokyo was rejected all over the place at first, but later on he took his Japanese office staff to all these sex venues, and he got in basically everywhere, and each shop he started to collect name cards of the manager, make friends with them and give tips to them, he now is treated like VIP all over Ikebukuro. Even certain girl is reluctant to serve him, the manager will pressure the girl to do so.

Any gaijin can switch from a reject to a shop VIP in a just several visits. There is no tip culture in Japan, but I personally found out it works magics.

[OldAsiaHand]

The point is not to judge whether any given behavior is correct or not, it is to respect any behavior which is the rule in the country in which you are.

After visiting and doing business in Japan for over 30 years, I have never really understood the reasons behind the prejudice. Depending on the circumstances or the venue involved, most of my Japanese friends and business partners usually explain it as the lack of English language skills and the inability to service me in the best way because of it. Are they just being polite?

By now, I have learned what places are gaijin friendly and navigate that way when I monger. If I do meet the "Japanese Only" situation, I just smile and move on.

On the other hand, I can understand the frustration. Nobody likes to be discriminated against. It is just that getting angry and confrontational does not get you anywhere in Japan.

Just my POV.

OAH

[LoveShibuyaGirls]

Great, thanks!

What I've used at least, is close to that although I never specified the time (length) and never had an issue. I would just say something like:

2 man (the normal kanji). Or you can use the kanji for the guy who is on the 10000 yen bill (Yukichi Fukuzawa) , so like "Yukichi 2 mai" == to indicate the price.

Ho (in katakana) betsu (in kanji) == to indicate that you will pay for the hotel.

Gomu (in katakana) tsuki (in kanji) == to indicate that you're willing to use a condom.

The other key word to use is "Jou-ken" to indicate the "terms". So you can ask the girl what her "Jou-ken" is and she'll write back something like above. Or you can say that those are your "Jou-ken" and ask her what she thinks.

Sticking to this vocabulary and keeping it short and sweet has always worked for me.