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Originally Posted by Detwing1
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Very true. Brings back good memories of picking up OL's when I lived in Nagoya. As you say, any foreigner, LIVING IN Japan, with reasonable social skills and appearance should have NO problem picking up an OL. Just leave the cut off jeans and flip flops at home though (that only works in PH or Thai).
Once I learned the ropes, after the first month of living there, it was game on. It was the same for all of my foreigner friends.
However, for the short term visitor, I suspect it would be almost impossible.
What I found out and now it's probably more so due to the COVID situation and workers being laid off, that in the past some of those good "OLs" were moonlighting in the Delivery Health / Hostess business to make ends meet. There is a huge disparity in the pay between males and females in Japan, and it's not strange to find a female making less than a male at the same company with the same qualifications and starting at the same time. So a few of them I knew would spend their precious few free hours doing the "wet business" as they call it. If you know how Office dynamics work in Japanese companies this can be hard since many times you are required to go out drinking with the team until late hours and then be back at the grind the next morning. But a few did manage to find a way to make ends meet.
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Originally Posted by AussieGaigin
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There are millions of OLs in Tokyo. Anyone with reasonable social skills should be able to pick one up without any problem. RTFF here and in the Nampa thread for clues.
There is a "Private Message" function on this site where you are ask other members for personal information.
Very true. Brings back good memories of picking up OL's when I lived in Nagoya. As you say, any foreigner, LIVING IN Japan, with reasonable social skills and appearance should have NO problem picking up an OL. Just leave the cut off jeans and flip flops at home though (that only works in PH or Thai).
Once I learned the ropes, after the first month of living there, it was game on. It was the same for all of my foreigner friends.
However, for the short term visitor, I suspect it would be almost impossible.
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Absolutely True!
Originally Posted by EngineDriver
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Two-week mongers to Japan are not going to have much luck with OLs. You need to spend time in country, immerse yourself in the culture and learn how things works socially. Two-week mongers are better off going to soaplands, THC or delivery health services catering to foreigners.
Foreigners have "social rank" in Japan depending on where they come from and it helps if they can offer something which is "cool" or unattainable to the girls. In your case it was access to the military base and the perceived glamour of associating with a black US serviceman. Trevor Houchen was a DJ, singer and magazine publisher so girls flocked to him. Stefhen Bryan was an English teacher in rural areas, so a 6'4" black dude walking around the country side was a novelty. He milked his Jamaican roots for all they were worth. He was not particular about who he fucked and serviced a number of lonely MILFs. Most importantly, the girls were all curious about BBC!
Messrs Harrera and Black will need to spend time in country and come up with a USP to wow those OLs.
Yeah I agree it's more of a social and cultural experience or rather a change which we must have to score an OL.
They are ladies with certain needs and that we have to understand once again with empathy and compassion.
It will take lot of time for sure for us to get into the world of OLs and once successful we might have a wonderful time.
My first OL experience is still awaited so let's hope she turns up with her buddy.
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Going back a few years I was a semi-regular 2-week monger in Japan in the 1980-90's.
I worked as a service provider for numerous Japanese tourist companies in Australia, so was well versed in their cultural aspects. There was an unlimited supply of OL types here to practice on.
I learned much "sexucation" and "sexiquette" from the publications of Boye de Mente, a prolific author of books dealing with all things Japanese, including women and night life.
There was limited social media in those days, but I had no difficulty in finding OLs for a ONS. Jusat a matter of being prepared, it is not like gertting an OL in Phils or Thailand.
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Originally Posted by Drbombay
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Very true words. Read both books and have been in Japan since 2000 for 15 years, and came back in 2017 and if you are a Black American you will have somewhat of a better chance with some types of OL, especially if you are associated with the US military bases. Back when I was "out there" the fact that I was Black, American and had access to the bases was a key factor in my getting laid more than normal since most of the girls wound up asking me to take them to the base to eat at Taco Bell (believe it or not) and to shop, mainly for Coach bags since we don't pay taxes on those items on the bases and compared to a Japanese story you could see almost a 25% mark-up in taxes (so much for trade barriers). I have also seen many women who fell prey to Blacks from Nigeria and other African nations who told the women they had base access but never took them there because they were lying to them. Ran into one or two who gave me sob stories about trusting too much and getting burnt.
These days, from what I am seeing if you can at least carry a conversation, and one important thing, if you are going to be here an extended stay it's much easier (and cheaper) if you can cook since I've never met so many women who were not familiar with cooking themselves and see it as a novelty that a man knows how to cook for himself.
Good Hunting!
Two-week mongers to Japan are not going to have much luck with OLs. You need to spend time in country, immerse yourself in the culture and learn how things works socially. Two-week mongers are better off going to soaplands, THC or delivery health services catering to foreigners.
Foreigners have "social rank" in Japan depending on where they come from and it helps if they can offer something which is "cool" or unattainable to the girls. In your case it was access to the military base and the perceived glamour of associating with a black US serviceman. Trevor Houchen was a DJ, singer and magazine publisher so girls flocked to him. Stefhen Bryan was an English teacher in rural areas, so a 6'4" black dude walking around the country side was a novelty. He milked his Jamaican roots for all they were worth. He was not particular about who he fucked and serviced a number of lonely MILFs. Most importantly, the girls were all curious about BBC!
Messrs Harrera and Black will need to spend time in country and come up with a USP to wow those OLs.
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Originally Posted by EngineDriver
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African Americans and Jamaicans have a lot of success in Japan because they are considered cool. Their culture, music, dance etc. Japanese girls go crazy for BBC. You should read "Black Passenger Yellow Cabs: A Memoir of Exile and Excess" by Stefhen F. The. Bryan and "The Eternal Outsider: 10 Years Black In Japan" by Trevor David Houchen before you go. It will be an eye opener.
Very true words. Read both books and have been in Japan since 2000 for 15 years, and came back in 2017 and if you are a Black American you will have somewhat of a better chance with some types of OL, especially if you are associated with the US military bases. Back when I was "out there" the fact that I was Black, American and had access to the bases was a key factor in my getting laid more than normal since most of the girls wound up asking me to take them to the base to eat at Taco Bell (believe it or not) and to shop, mainly for Coach bags since we don't pay taxes on those items on the bases and compared to a Japanese story you could see almost a 25% mark-up in taxes (so much for trade barriers). I have also seen many women who fell prey to Blacks from Nigeria and other African nations who told the women they had base access but never took them there because they were lying to them. Ran into one or two who gave me sob stories about trusting too much and getting burnt.
These days, from what I am seeing if you can at least carry a conversation, and one important thing, if you are going to be here an extended stay it's much easier (and cheaper) if you can cook since I've never met so many women who were not familiar with cooking themselves and see it as a novelty that a man knows how to cook for himself.
Good Hunting!
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Originally Posted by BobbyHarrera
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Hi SBlack,
I'm a fellow mongerer from Bangalore planning to visit Tokyo soon.
Could you please provide more details on how you found the OL. That has been on my todo list for a while.
Thanks.
OL's are not prostitutes. Many are naive, lonely, insular girls with low levels of confidence. To be successful, particularly if you are a person of color, you will need a combination of the following:
1. Basic Japanese language skills.
2. Cool factor.
3. Some sense of style.
4. Game.
5. Charm, wit and humor.
6. Discretion, particularly in an office situation.
African Americans and Jamaicans have a lot of success in Japan because they are considered cool. Their culture, music, dance etc. Japanese girls go crazy for BBC. You should read "Black Passenger Yellow Cabs: A Memoir of Exile and Excess" by Stefhen F. The. Bryan and "The Eternal Outsider: 10 Years Black In Japan" by Trevor David Houchen before you go. It will be an eye opener.
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Originally Posted by BobbyHarrera
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Hi SBlack,
I'm a fellow mongerer from Bangalore planning to visit Tokyo soon.
Could you please provide more details on how you found the OL. That has been on my todo list for a while.
Thanks.
There are millions of OLs in Tokyo. Anyone with reasonable social skills should be able to pick one up without any problem. RTFF here and in the Nampa thread for clues.
There is a "Private Message" function on this site where you are ask other members for personal information.
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Any tips?
Originally Posted by SBlack0070
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From my side, yes based in your guidance I have explored few pubs and now I got an opportunity to date an OL.
As things are slowly getting better between us, maybe I will hit a jackpot as recently she told she loves threesome and one of her friend is also interested.
I will update once I score. Kudos.
Hi SBlack,
I'm a fellow mongerer from Bangalore planning to visit Tokyo soon.
Could you please provide more details on how you found the OL. That has been on my todo list for a while.
Thanks.
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Great!
Originally Posted by AussieGaigin
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Good on you. There is much more fun to be had with "normal people" than with providers.
Never had a threesome during my adventures, but many girls were happy to share me with their friends.
Great to hear that.
I hope my first 3 some goes well.
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Originally Posted by SBlack0070
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From my side, yes based in your guidance I have explored few pubs and now I got an opportunity to date an OL.
As things are slowly getting better between us, maybe I will hit a jackpot as recently she told she loves threesome and one of her friend is also interested.
I will update once I score. Kudos.
Good on you. There is much more fun to be had with "normal people" than with providers.
Never had a threesome during my adventures, but many girls were happy to share me with their friends.
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True. Tourism sector is completely damaged.
Originally Posted by AussieGaigin
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With a lack of visitors to the country of late, it is not surprising, is it?
So Mr Black, if you are in Japan, how about you post some reports yourself, instead of demanding that others do it.
From my side, yes based in your guidance I have explored few pubs and now I got an opportunity to date an OL.
As things are slowly getting better between us, maybe I will hit a jackpot as recently she told she loves threesome and one of her friend is also interested.
I will update once I score. Kudos.
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Forum is dried up.
With a lack of visitors to the country of late, it is not surprising, is it?
So Mr Black, if you are in Japan, how about you post some reports yourself, instead of demanding that others do it.
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Forum is dried up.
Hi guys!
In this forum hardly there are any new updates.
Japan as I am getting to know is a reserved country but sometimes I feel people are actually expressive and are very open to this world of sex, fantasies and fetishes.
If any of the seniors here have had any other great experiences to share with apart from the ones shared in the past threads, let's make this group lively.
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Thank you for the update!
Originally Posted by AussieGaigin
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There may be shops that advertise a cheaper price, but like low cost airlines, this could be for a basic service and there are extras which will add to the price. Possibly a lot more than an upfront shop. Foreigners would be a good target for this.
Unlike the India ISG, we are quite open to discussing details of what is available and what goes on in the market. None of those coded messages and secret DMs to convey information here.
If you take the time to read back reports for 12 months or so, you will find a wealth information of the Tokyo (and other areas) scene.
There is also information which can be located through google.
I'm relieved that there are no code words here as deciphering codes in Indian ISG is tougher than inventing a new periodic table element. Haha.
I will definitely go through all the posts and will definitely try out all the fantastic places in Japan.
If I get some awesome leads will definitely post here as well.
Good night!
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