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  1. #1192
    Homer69 and Dog Jamm,Yes, you can catch things from DFK, but not much that you won't get eventually anyway by riding the Joban line full of coughers and hackers! Why DFK? To me, the experience is just not the same without it! A certain sensuality that is hard to describe. But I can understand that some don't find it all that important. To each, his own!But that raises a question. To me, the much over-used term "GFE" implies DFK as a matter of course. Is that the way most use that term on this board? If not, what DOES GFE mean? Please post your ideas about this, guys. It does help, I think, if we all agree on what the words mean, even if we have (inevitably) different ideas about what we want!

  2. #1191
    I'm coming to Tokyo in a few weeks and was hoping to make contact with a Japanese woman, non-pro, via email before I go. Does anyone have any good web sites, chat rooms, or message boards that are good for meeting non-pro, Japanese women?Thanks

  3. #1190
    Hi there - Shin Okubo update1) visited 2 massage places (esute - ?G?X?e) . Just as you exit the station turn right and proceed under the bridge. Go 2 small streets and turn right - you will see the signboards. 1 bulding 5 or 6 floors. The 5th floor has a Japanese health place but they don't accept foreigners. The massage places are good for massage and HJ but not much else. I couldn't even get my fingers in their pie!2) Another place - again exit station, turn right. Walk under the bridge then cross to other side of the road. On the same side of street as hiking or camping supply place (can't remember name) Go about 2 or 3 buldings more. You will see signboard for esute and at night a girl or 2 touting. I went to the 5th floor location. First you walk in the bulding, then up stairs to 3rd floor. Then elevator to 5th. Mixed girls from korea, HK and SHanghai. Had a very pleasant time with a SH girl. CBJ, CFS, massage, leisurely. Not a bad value for 12k - they want 18k. Prolly get them to 10k/45min not much problem. I didn't want to spoil it for the group by being a hard bargaining dick, so went halfway and paid 12 - the girl was very accomodating and GFE (enough for me anyways)3) Not many SW on the usual strolls. They have migrated towards Okubo station - prolly due to the cameras now on the street poles by the usual places near the Love Hotels. Walking back to Shinjuku - not much along the 'Nut Club' stroll by the hospital - the usual skanky suspects.Ciao

  4. #1189
    Can someone let me know the directions to Seiki 21. I am sure they have been posted but the search for them is a little maddening.Thanks In Advance

  5. #1188
    Japan,I tend to agree with DogJamm regarding DFK. Why would you want to? Probably not much as much risk as FS without a raincoat but you can catch some nasty bugs from mouth-to-mouth contact.As much as I enjoy DATY, I never do it with a working girl, which doesn't eliminate risk but it is certainly much safer doing it with a girl you know fairly well. VD sucks and HIV can kill you so it's not really worth it for me.

  6. #1187
    Japan,For whatever reason the girl didn't want to do DFK, it's not a Japanese thing or anthing like that, lots of places offer that. My question is: why would youwant a DFK? These girls may have done that with lots of guys, its a good way to catch a cold, I tell you. I like a little kissing but try not to DFK if possible.One place where a kiss is offered as part of the service is Nishi-Kawaguchi, it all depends on the girl, though whether they will DFK or not.

  7. #1186
    Thanks Sailing,I havn't found any ads that specificallty specify FS in the base price, so I think I'll hold off on that for a bit, unless there are some specific recommendations for particular agencies and girls.Just a tip about another gaigin-friendly Soap in Tsuchiura. I started out intending to pay another visit to Prin-Prin, which I posted about a while back. But I was ?pulled in? by a tout, from the ?Banana Boat?--another Soap near the train station in Tsuchiura. The girl, Akari, about 27, was a bit thick, but had a pretty face and a nice attitude. She provided a fun soap raft slip and slide session with nice cock and ball massage. The BJ was covered, and no DFK. Even tough I gently persisted, I could not get any ?kissu? this time! That was the only major disappointment, as DFK is really crucial to me for a first rate experience. She really enjoyed DATY, though, and allowed very careful digital insertion and seemed to enjoy the G-spot simulation. And she allowed two rounds of unrushed covered full service. Price: ne man yen for 70 minutes. All in all, about a 7 in both looks and performance, with very professional service, with lots of ?arragatto gozimashide?s" from the staff when leaving--the owner even insisted I take an umbrella to walk back to the station in the rain! And now a question--I have been much less successful in getting DFK from Japanese girls than other nationalities. They seem to withhold this-- much more so than the Thai or Chinese girls I?ve had, or the Western girls back home. And I have been told by many Japanese girls now that DFK is just not the Japanese way. My question is--is this really true? Do Japanese girls normally not kiss? And how would some of you more experienced gaigin mongers approach this? Any tips? Surely there are some of you out there that consider this as important to the experience as I do! And I am thinking of trying the Koganecho area in Yokohama soon. Any tips, or specific venues, regarding the girls there, especially regarding DFK? Thanks for your help!

  8. #1185
    Gentlemen,It has been a long time since my last visit, and I'd like to apologize to all those to whom my sudden departure may have driven to wrong conclusions, e.g., nothing further to my will than leaving behind unanswered messages and unattended invitations, specially when those who sent them didn't need to do so and were just trying to help a total stranger.I just had to leave everything here in Tokyo and go back to my country to take care of some - non pleasant - family issues, ipso facto, so one night I was checking the forum at my cozy Tokyo home drinking ocha and eating nigiri and the next morning I was flying back to Europe with just my passport on.Anyway, now I'm back here, ready to resume my normal gaijin-in-Japan existence, mainly based upon enjoying this city's special services... so, gentlemen, let's roll!Again, apologies to anybody whom I might have offended.Che

  9. #1184
    Went to Utamaro. Arrived just went it opened at 5:00pm. The inside was so dark I couldnt' see anything for at least 10 minutes until my eyes got used to the darkness. The furnishing is not as plush as Hinomaru but with three girls servicing you in 45 minutes or whatever the time limiit was, it was a better value. I can't remember the girls that serviced me but there were pretty cute.

  10. #1183
    Shibuya Sex Tower update part deux. It seems the 5th floor is hanging in there with better than sporadic openings. A few of the girls have returned from 'resting' and ready for action! Funny thing, when I was visiting one of my favorites another girl came in the room and said 'oh, I had him too! should we try together?' Kind of cute since I hadn't seen either girl for almost 4mo! Happy mongering! P.S. They've painted and cleaned a bit, too, almost cozy - like a BJ BBS except for the price. But hey, it's Tokyo and you won't get this kind of service anywhere else for the price. You can bargain for 10k/45min - slack time. Some of the girls try to cheat you on the time - so hurry your way in and out the shower and cut the massage short.Cheers

  11. #1182
    Homer,There seems to be a ton of services but after using several of them, it seems each time I call one the same woman answers. There seem to be only a couple of places that use various names and telephone numbers. As I speak Japanese like a native, I have not had trouble getting service from those establishments. I have even taken WSG members under the pretext that I was entertaining visiting clients. There is at least one which will take foreigners i.e. non-Japanese but you will have to call around and see which ones they are. I have found that if I tell them in advance that my clients are foreigners the quality of girls goes down i.e. they get older and bigger.Japan,Regarding the venues that advertise in English magazines, the girls for the most part are English speakers and nothing is explicitely stated. It is a matter of hit or miss as to whether you are quoted a price for FS or not. They tend to be very careful in describing the service provided for the price quoted.Traveller,Enjoyed reading your version of the experience we had. I went there again for a double a couple of days ago and found another interesting pair of girls. One was Japanese and the other a Korean who had just started that day. Very interesting breaking them in. I would be game for another trip to Koganecho if we don`t do another triple before going.

  12. #1181
    Hi All,I'm from New York.I will be in Tokyo 5/17-5/20 around Roppongi. Any advice on where to get some hot Japanese girls. I can't speak Japanese at all. I been to Tokyo many times on Business but always failed in getting some action.Your advice and guidance is much appreiciated from this clueless of NY.Patboy

  13. #1180
    I am thinking of trying one of the agencies in Tokyo that advertise in English on the web. Can anyone recommend a specific venue or girl that will provide full service as a matter of course. And, if it is included in the base price, whether it will cost extra, and how much? There seems to be conflicting info on the boards about this. Some of the Club Boo girls look good, but do they provide FS? Anyone have any experiences with them, or with Tokyo Enjoy, or any others I might not know about?Thanks for your help!

  14. #1179
    I was browsing yukan.net today and I noticed that there are a ton of Korean delivery health services from Uguisudani. Any particular reason why Uguisudani has so many of these businesses?

  15. #1178
    Kinnotsuki is a massage place. The facilities are very clean and the playrooms are huge. The gold course is 110 minutes long. You start in one of two huge shower rooms. There is an air mattress on the floor. While you are lying on the mattress, you get a nice, long, soapy rub down. After she rinses you off, she breaks out the water-based lube. Getting rubbed down with that stuff all over your body (and hers) is incredible. This part of the service lasts almost 50 minutes. After you are rinsed off, it?fs off to the playroom.In the playroom you start with a massage. It?fs not bad compared with most massage places. Hot towels are placed on your back while the girl walks all over you. After the massage, the lights are turned down and the fun begins. FS is strictly not allowed here. 69, CBJ, and sumata are about it. It does not sound like much but the way the service is performed is outstanding. All of the people who work there are extremely friendly.The price is a bit misleading. Take a printout of the system page on the web site to get the discount. After the first visit, you are given a member?fs card. Every time you go back with your card, you get a discount. I usually pay 15,000 or 16,000 for the gold course with my card.

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