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  1. #903
    It's still difficult to find a gal who takes cum in the mouth. Only did it once and it cost me about 15k! Is it the market price?By the way, any tips to get girls who swallow? Thanks

  2. #902

    Aesthetics or Fashion

    viagrant,glad to be of service.homer,are you doing legal research? my friend, i believe that the material point here is quality of service and price, not the economic-legal framework, unless, of course, it should impact quality of service and price.the esute are cheaper, lower rent establishments and offer exotic treats from korea or china--choose the former for quality the later for adventure. table shower are available in some not others.the fashion healths are a slightly different atmosphere with a japanese staff and much less common than esute. they will often times have more varied [CodeWord118], with throne of pleasure, soapie mat, etc.my choice depends on what flavor of oriental i am in the mood for (a moot point if you don't speak chinese, japanese or korean).of course a good chinese esute which provides fs and is around the corner from your house is best.i also find that fixtures are not always the same, either, two esutes will have same prices same service but one will have table shower for body shampoo, one won't. same with healths, the plumbing is not always the same.in winter and summer ac is also an important consideration.finally, the beds, walls, doors, etc., vary considerably.i guess you just have to shop around to find the place with service, attendants and accoutrements most to your taste.

  3. #901
    RE: SoaplandsIs FS a given at all Soaplands? I was under the impression that sex for money is prohibited in Japanese establishments. Does the price matter? I know most Soaps are quite expensive so I never go for it. But I know a few that offer services for less than 30,000 total and wouldn't mind stopping in if FS is guaranteed.Any input?

  4. #900
    Crazy Jim,Thanks for the list of terms.I would add that some providers in Tokyo that I have seen did not understand "come" but did understand "finish" for ejaculation.V.

  5. #899
    Lubricate It:First, thank you for the definitions.Re: Your definition: "Esute: AMP (Korean is safest, Chinese service varies widely)"Nationwide Sukebe (compliments of http://www.21orover.com/japan/nws/nationwide.html ) defines the following:"FASHION HEALTH, FASHION MASSAGE or HEALTH (SUKEBE Translation available) This kind of service is very similar to 'MASSAGE PARLOR' in US. Almost all do BJ. Remember, BJ is legal. Never ask about full service. ASKING about full service might cause big PROBLEM to you. If you prefer full service, go to SOAPLAND. FASHION HEALTH usually have young girls (18-25). The average age is much younger than SOAPLAND. The price range is 8,000yen - 20,000yen. You can find this kind of services in more districts / cities than SOAPLAND."and "ESTE or ESUTE (Added Jan. 30th 2002) The word comes from English word 'aesthetic'. Japanese shorten the word (they often shorten a foreign word and use it as quasi Japanese word.) and write in three Japanaes Katakanas E, SU, and TE. The places are officially men's aesthetic salons. First ones were Kankoku (=Korean) ESUTEs. Chugoku (Chinese) ESUTEs followed. Services are similar to fashion health places. The difference is most of the women are foreign women, mostly Asian. Fashion health places are registered places and not so willing to hire illegally working foreign women because the do not want to lose their license. On the other hand ESUTEs are not registered, so they do not need to care about license. Sometimes they offer full-service that registered fashion health places do not. Be careful there should be more rip-off places than fashion health because they are unregistered places."It seems that the difference between Este and Fashion/Health/MP is the licensing and flexibility of the house.Comments, recommendations?Are the KMPs that CJWood and others report on considered ESTEs or Fashion MPs?

  6. #898
    NottyAny Japanese-speaking foreigner can get BBBJCIM at Ai in Shimbashi, 9k for 35 min. The management is very welcoming. In the shower just make sure you say to the girl: "Iku toki wa koh-nai de tanomu ne." But everyone please behave well at this shop to maintain the welcome for us all.

  7. #897
    Notty Max,Jackson is right, you should check the terms&abbreviations, but there are a few terms peculiar to the Japan scene which you may not find in the terms & abbreviations section that you should feel free to ask about. Here is a small sample but there are many more:AF: Anal Fuck (Greek) (you go down her hershey highway)Esute: AMP (Korean is safest, Chinese service varies widely)Fera: felatio (BJ)Gansha: facialGokkun: swallowHonban: FSKosupure/cosupure: costume play, i.e., nurse, school girl, OLNama fera: BBBJN-bura: no bra, nude topN-pan: no pants, nude bottomOnani: female masturbationPaipan: shaved pussyPaizuri: titty job (Russian)Pinkurota-: Pink rotor (small vibrator w/cord & battery pack)Reverse AF: (She takes the strap-on down your hershey highway)Skin: condomSumata: Simulated FS finish between the provider's thighs.
    Can anyone explain what is AF and FS?Hi, I see this question in the Forum ocassionally, so I have to ask: In your browser, can you see the link labeled "Terms and Abbreviations" in the black menu bar at the top of this page?

  8. #896
    PSseehttp://kyushu.com/fukuoka/bars/crazy_cock/1,dj,0,,1,1,0,,x.shtmlfor info on Crazy C

  9. #895
    JMI have some limited experiance in Fukuoka.There is kind of a discontinuous Roppongi type area. Not sure how to get there but just ask to go to the Crazy Cock or Happy Cock (yes that's the name of the places). Kind of equivalent to Motown or 911 in Roppongi. Both are the hangout for young J girls with all you can drink armbands. Kind of a Gas Panic experiance but not all young types. If you have the energy they are there. There is a little know place called Broadway or off Broadway that is worth visiting if you can find it. Get a hamburger there. Also the Voodoo lounge.Just outside the front door of the Grand Hyatt there is a canal which leads to a string of Soaplands. I was motioned in to several by the touts and could have participated if I knew a little more Japanese. My friend who is fluent, got in and looked at the photo menu but was just recon for me. I never made it there but there are possibilities.

  10. #894
    Hi WSG and fellow Hobbyists,I am not new to this site or Japan but it has been awhile since I have been here, Particuallry I am interested the location of the Chinese Este in Shibuya. Additionallly, future investigation about the Gotanda scene is requested. I can read Kanji and have frequented Gotanda ina past life here. What is the website and anyone up for investigating this together?Lastly, since I am just now getting back inot the scene here in Tokyo I would like a few reccomendations from the group.I am working in Hamamatscho so both the Gotanda and Shibuya areas are of particular interest.Not sure what to make of the Hinodecho area so scales form 1-10 would be appreciated. Is it worth the train ride?

  11. #893
    CJWood:Thanks for the intel on Hinodecho. I went out there last week again to sniff around but I still prefer the KMPs for personal reasons. It's entertaining to see what's out there and now that it's been clarified on this board that it's perfectly legit, I feel a lot better about going out there to look around.The limited number of gaijin-friendly venues in the Tokyo area makes this board absolutely priceless for those of us who can't read the signs, even for those of us who can speak enough to get by.

  12. #892
    Hi,Any folks here have experience in Fukuoka?Headed down there next week and will be there for a while. Also any one know of good hang out places on the weekdays and the weekends in Fukuoka Is there a Heartland and Roppongi equivalanet out there?Thanks,JM

  13. #891
    good report, sojourn,your research of the chinese esute in this facility has been exhaustive.i see your chesty japanese friend probably maintains her rackage with protein supplements.af-hitoduma in gotanda seems to be our new holy grail.rest assured when i go there and go i shall i will contact you...homer,operating a house of prostitution in japan is illegal with prostitution defined as the sale of (vaginal) sex. seems like all the koganecho/hinodecho area is specially zoned to allow independent contractors, note they are only providers and not houses of prostitution. there are also signs on the street warning people about the presence of foreign prostitutes. so, i guess legality depends on what you're selling who is selling it and where you're selling it, so sale of vaginal sex by the provider in a properly zoned area would be legit, but the same provider hooking on the street or under the control of another person would be illegal. there are also grey areas, such as the environs around the u.s. military bases, where mps are encouraged to allow the randy military to get off without [CodeWord125] young school girls. but if you notice there are strict regulations governing the size of their signage, what hours they can put out signage, etc.cjw

  14. #890
    Can anyone explain what is AF and FS?Hi, I see this question in the Forum ocassionally, so I have to ask: In your browser, can you see the link labeled "Terms and Abbreviations" in the black menu bar at the top of this page? Apparently there must be some problem with the visibility of this link in some browsers, so any feedback you could give me would help me identify the specific problem. jackson@wsgforum.com Thanks, Jackson

  15. #889
    Hi,Is it possible to cum in the girl's mouth? How much need to be paid?How to get one-to one gal here? Thanks for helping

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