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[Canyon]

Bijou,

Saunas are very similar, but Rio and some others are more-better quality.

1. At Rio, there is a flat fee of about 1. 000 MOP to get in, which is about $130. They waive the charge if you have full sex. They do not waive the charge if you choose less expensive services like a foot or thigh massage. Other saunas are similar, but some prices are lower. The.

2. Weekday prices are the same, even though there is less business.

3. There are pick-up places, but I don't recommend them. Go to Hong Kong for pick-ups. If you go to Macau, be prepared to spend more. The saunas are very nice.

If you go to Macau, I would splurge and visit Rio. Familia Nobre is nice and slightly less expensive.

I have a China trip coming up in 2 weeks starting in Beijing and ending in Hong Kong. I've been RTFF regarding Macau for some time and feel it is the type of place to check off on my bucket list. However, the recent reports show the prices to be significantly high. Additionally, I prefer the freelancer pickup type venues.

With that said, could anyone answer these questions regarding Macau:

1. For fishbowls and saunas, is there a flat entrance fee or minimum charge fee? (I read in a recent report someone had to pay 1000+ MOP when leaving after just seeing the lineup).

2. Are the prices significantly lower during weekdays? (I assume that there are less people visiting the venues during the week).

3. Are there any freelancer pickup bars or discos and what would be the expected price for those freelancers?

I would like to check off Macau on my upcoming trip, but I want to be informed of the current situation before planning to go.

Thanks in advance.

[Member #4698]

That's good news Canyon. I skipped Macau on my last trip and spent the extra week in Manila which was nice BTW, but I plan to go back to Macau on my next Asian excursion. I miss Chinese girls so I am looking forward to more good times at Rio, FN, Darling 1, and East Spa. I am glad you are having a good time.

[Canyon]

Natty,

I'm staying at the Rio right now. I didn't have any payment problems, I chose a beautiful Chinese girl for 2800 MOP. Service was pretty good. There were no issues about payment. I just paid the Sauna at the end with my credit card. I did not give the girl any cash. They must have changed the policy back again, since they may have had customer resistance like yours. (Girl was #801.).

Canyon.

I was recently in Macau and had a mixed time unlike previous years when it was all good. I will provide much more detail in my up coming trip report, but for right now this is what I have to say:

Rio - there was a small line up (only 10 girls) when I was there at 11:30 pm on a rainy Sunday night. 4 of the girls were spectacular! Model quality. 8 stars. Two of the super stars were Chinese and two were Korean. The prices were out of this world. 3000 mop for the Chinese girls & 3600 mop for the Koreans. I chose one of the Chinese girls, but then I had a very unfortunate altercation (disagreement) with management over the form of payment and left the joint angry and without getting laid.

Famila Nobre - after my altercation at Rio I went over to FN. It was around 12:30 am. The line up had around 30 girls. No stunners. I chose a slightly above average, kind of pretty Singapore girl of Chinese origin. The session was average / not great as I am used to at this place. The total bill was around 2500 mop which included a 45 minute double thigh massage with a friendly Vietnamese girl. I left FN at around 4 am. I had a good time, but not the great time I was looking forward to so I was very disappointed with my 1st night in town.

Darling 1 - at the Masters Hotel was my destination on night 2. There were around 50 girls in the Fishbowl including a few Chinese "models" and a few Thai "models". I chose a very pretty, small breasted, tall, thin Chinese "model". She had a very sexy body IMHO and was a great girl although not as drop dead gorgeous as the Rio Chinese "models". She showed me a really good time and we went overtime. I really liked her and she thoroughly satisfied me with an amazing BBBJ and great sex. We exchanged WeChat ID's and made tentative plans to get together again. The price was 2000 mop total out of which I had to give the girl her fee directly (500 mop).

Excellent Sauna - at the Grand Emperor Hotel was my destination on night 3. I had never been here before, but since I was staying at the Grand Emperor Hotel, I decided to give it a try. It turns out that Excellent is small, but very posh, top class place. The lineup at 8:30 had maybe 15 girls. I chose a sexy Malaysian girl because she was a) smiling demurely at me and b) I had never been with a Malay girl before. It turned out to be a wise choice. We clicked and she gave me an amazing GFE session. We shagged in 5 or 6 different positions and we went at least 15 minutes overtime. The tab was 2100 mop. This session and the one the previous night at Darling 1 where the highlights of my 2016 Macau side trip.

Darling 1 - I went back to Darling 1 for another session with my Chinese "model" from 2 nights ago. We had some WeChat conversations beforehand, but when I arrived at her shop she was with another customer. Rather than wait for sloppy seconds, Ha Ha, I chose another Chinese 'Model". This turned out to be a mistake. With her clothes off, the new girl was just ok, but not near as sexy as the girl I came for. Furthermore she lacked the enthusiasm that my 1st Darling girl gave me so the resulting session was barely adequate. To be honest she was a disappointment and the session was a big let down. 2000 mop for mediocrity. I do not come to Macau for this. In hindsight I should have waited for girl #1 or gone somewhere else.

So all in all I batted 50/50 on my Macau 2016 side trip. The altercation in Rio was about payment methods. The new payment plan is for the customer to pay the girl her cut of the fee directly in the room. In Rio for example, a 3000 mop Chinese "model" means the customer gives the girl 900 mop directly and then he pays the remaining balance of the bill (2100 mop) at the front desk before leaving the spa. I had just arrived from Manila. I was tired and did not have any mop. Perhaps there was a mutual misunderstanding, but the long and the short of it was that I ended up leaving the sauna after a big argument ensued without getting laid and I blame Rio management for not accommodating me.

The next night at Darling 1, I was presented with the same payment plan ie that the customer must pay the girl her cut and then pay the balance due at the front desk. In this case the Darling 1 girl only gets 500 mop, but the big difference was that in Darling 1 management was very cooperative. The host offered to charge my credit card twice. First 500 mop for the girl & second 1500 mop for the house. After charging my card, he gave me the 500 mop to give to the girl later in the room. If Rio had offered me a similar payment option there would have been no altercation and I would have laid an expensive, but exquisite Chinese superstar and most likely have had a great time. I am still pretty pissed at Rio because the host knew me! He knew I was a loyal customer for years. He should have treated me much better than just smiling at me as he repeated himself 3 or 4 times. What BS. The bottom line was that I had to pay 500 mop to get out of the place in one piece. LOL. (I will post more details in my trip report.) It was the most expensive glass of watermelon juice I ever had.

In any case, these new payment plan at both Rio and Darling 1 come about because of the increasingly hostile political/police environment they face. It is a ruse, but it allows the saunas to claim they don't know about any sexual services going on in their shops. Excellent Sauna and Famiila Nobre have not yet instituted this policy, but I imagine they will eventually. All this, plus the shut down of the Lisboa Racetrack and other ominous events, points to a bleak future for Macau mongering. I say, enjoy it while it is still available. It may not be around in the not too distant future.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Taxis are expensive in Macau. The major casino hotels offer free bus transport to the ferry terminal and the airport every half hour. The larger casinos like MGM and Wynn also offer free bus transport between their various casinos on a scheduled basis. That said, I highly recommend you book a hotel in Macau City (peninsula) where all the saunas are easy walking distance. Then if you want to visit the islands of Taipa, Cotai and Coloane you can, but believe me, you won't be missing much if you stay put in Macau City.

To Natty.

Yes Macau taxi have extra charge after midnight and extra for baggage and casino shuttle don't run after midnight, it is one of highest in Asia but not as high as Japan and S Korea.

Fast Eddie 48.

[Makeupaname]

Cotai and Macau are not that far apart. At night, with no traffic, its a 10 minute ride. Lion & Cubic are normal places. About midnight would be ok. Its not a sure thing that you will find FLs at either.

[Xfreak0000]

Hello Makeupaname,

I checked the locations of clubs that you had told me and found that D3, D2 and Line bar are in Macao land and the other 2 Cubic and Pasha clubs are in Kotai land so that is why I planned to stay 2 nights in Macao land and 3 nights in Kotai land.

During the day, I have some business meetings for 2 days in Kotai land so 5 days would be OK for this trip.

D2 and D3 disco visiting time (2 AM or later) is OK for me because these 2 days I will just relax and do some tourist things.

Can you please tell me what time would be good to go to Lion bar and Cubic club?

D3 disco, Fishermans wharf across from the Sands. Can find around 10-15 FLs, Filipino, Indo, Viet, African. Action starts very late 2 AM and later. Asking price 2000-3000 MOP, accepting price 1000-2000 MOP. I last went here about 6 months ago.

D2 disco, Fishermans wharf across from the Sands. Geared towards Chinese customers, not sure if the girls were FLs or just buy me drink girls. Read on facebook they now have topless waitresses. I last went here about 1 year ago.

Lion Bar, MGM. Occasionally find a handful of FLs. I last went here about 2 years ago, not sure of current status.

Cubic, club / disco, City of Dreams. Handful of FLs mixed in with regular club goers. I last went here about 2 years ago, not sure of current status.

Pasha, club / disco, Studio City. Heard you can find a handful of FLs mixed in with regular club goers. Never been there.

The Parisian is on the Cotai strip. There is nothing to do in Cotai other than going to the hotel / casinos there. However the 2 real civilian clubs / disco are there.

Your chances for free lancers are limited. That is not what Macau is good for. What else do you plan to do? Saunas and gambling is Macau. 5 days is a long time in Macau. You can walk across the whole country in half a day.

Taxis are expensive for S. E. Asia, but cheaper than American taxis. Its about 80 MOP from Venetian (Cotai) to Grand Lisboa (Macau).

Taxis can be hard to get when its raining, or on the weekend when most of the Chinese mainlanders are visiting. There are free casino shuttles, but not worth your time if you're on a short vacation.

I would stay on the Macau side.

Also note. I saw a post on another forum, Playmates (strip bar) is still open as of Spring 2017. Its on the Macau side, about 20 minutes walk inland from the Grand Lisboa. Still operating under the basic premise. The strippers do a couple of songs. In the past it was full nude, but may be only topless now. The bar also employ's girls to sit with you at your table, but you must buy them a drink 100+ MOP. The best deal was 2 for 1 bottle night. Buy a bottle of whiskey for 800 MOP and get one free. Comes with mixers. The girls can drink that without you having to buy additional drinks. The bar has rooms in the hotel, if a girl agrees to go with you, it was around 1500 MOP.

[Makeupaname]

The Parisian is on the Cotai strip. There is nothing to do in Cotai other than going to the hotel / casinos there. However the 2 real civilian clubs / disco are there.

Your chances for free lancers are limited. That is not what Macau is good for. What else do you plan to do? Saunas and gambling is Macau. 5 days is a long time in Macau. You can walk across the whole country in half a day.

Taxis are expensive for S. E. Asia, but cheaper than American taxis. Its about 80 MOP from Venetian (Cotai) to Grand Lisboa (Macau).

Taxis can be hard to get when its raining, or on the weekend when most of the Chinese mainlanders are visiting. There are free casino shuttles, but not worth your time if you're on a short vacation.

I would stay on the Macau side.

Also note. I saw a post on another forum, Playmates (strip bar) is still open as of Spring 2017. Its on the Macau side, about 20 minutes walk inland from the Grand Lisboa. Still operating under the basic premise. The strippers do a couple of songs. In the past it was full nude, but may be only topless now. The bar also employ's girls to sit with you at your table, but you must buy them a drink 100+ MOP. The best deal was 2 for 1 bottle night. Buy a bottle of whiskey for 800 MOP and get one free. Comes with mixers. The girls can drink that without you having to buy additional drinks. The bar has rooms in the hotel, if a girl agrees to go with you, it was around 1500 MOP.

[Member #4698]

Hello?

Just one question about my hotel location, please.

I would stay 5 nights in Macao and would it be a good idea to stay 2 nights in Macao island (Macao city island?) and 3 nights in the other island (don't know the name) - Parisian hotel where the int. Airport is to look around the city and try some disco / clubs for hunting Free lancers in Macao Island?

Or is it better just to stay in the other island and take taxis or public transportation to move around to Macao city?

Taxis are expensive in Macau. The major casino hotels offer free bus transport to the ferry terminal and the airport every half hour. The larger casinos like MGM and Wynn also offer free bus transport between their various casinos on a scheduled basis. That said, I highly recommend you book a hotel in Macau City (peninsula) where all the saunas are easy walking distance. Then if you want to visit the islands of Taipa, Cotai and Coloane you can, but believe me, you won't be missing much if you stay put in Macau City.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hello?

Just one question about my hotel location, please.

I would stay 5 nights in Macao and would it be a good idea to stay 2 nights in Macao island (Macao city island?) and 3 nights in the other island (don't know the name) - Parisian hotel where the int. Airport is to look around the city and try some disco / clubs for hunting Free lancers in Macao Island?

Or is it better just to stay in the other island and take taxis or public transportation to move around to Macao city?

To xfreak.

Macau is not very big cotati is the new area where all the new casino at only across the bridge from Macau, it is only short taxi ride or you can take the free casino shuttle but all the sauna is in the Macau area.

Fast Eddie 48.

[Xfreak0000]

Hello?

Just one question about my hotel location, please.

I would stay 5 nights in Macao and would it be a good idea to stay 2 nights in Macao island (Macao city island?) and 3 nights in the other island (don't know the name) - Parisian hotel where the int. Airport is to look around the city and try some disco / clubs for hunting Free lancers in Macao Island?

Or is it better just to stay in the other island and take taxis or public transportation to move around to Macao city?

[Makeupaname]

I haven't been to Playmates in years, not sure if its still open. There were strippers and other girls that would sit at your table if you bought them a drink. Buying a bottle was the best deal. I know that they had a room in the hotel above that you could take a girl too.

Xfreak0000 - Sunday / Monday are the two slowest days of the week. You will miss all the part-time FLS. Cut the numbers of FLs in half. Hope you have other plans in Macau, not just FL action.

[Xfreak0000]

The problem with LT from D3 is the late start. Before 2 AM there may only be 3-4 FLs there. About 3-4 AM is the peak time. By the time you make your choice and get to your hotel room and finish round 1 its already morning.

When I worked in Macau a few years back, I would go to sleep early, then set my alarm and go there in the early morning. It was in the AIA building then.

edit: note I was just reviewing my old posts. I may have mixed up D2 and D3 in Fishermans wharf. Same owner, near same logo, but one is geared for Chinese and one is geared for non-Chinese.

it may be hard to describe but i can say for sure which is which. they are both on the same walkway that is parallel to the Sands Casino. the one on the Sands side is for Chinese, the one that is closer to the water side (ferry terminal side) is for non-Chinese. they are about a 1-2 minute walk apart

Thanks a lot for the additional info.

Just one more question is that would Sunday and Monday be good time to try?

[Member #4698]

edit: note I was just reviewing my old posts. I may have mixed up D2 and D3 in Fishermans wharf. Same owner, near same logo, but one is geared for Chinese and one is geared for non-Chinese.

it may be hard to describe but i can say for sure which is which. they are both on the same walkway that is parallel to the Sands Casino. the one on the Sands side is for Chinese, the one that is closer to the water side (ferry terminal side) is for non-Chinese. they are about a 1-2 minute walk apart

I believe D3 is geared for anyone ie for us and D2 is primarily for Asians. See the attached map.

Makeupaname, do you know if Playmates in the Hotel Guia is still open? It was predominantly a strip club with mostly Asian girls, but also Russian Federation and African girls. Not really top talent here, but it was an interesting late night place to go for drinks and a little extra in the bar plus takeout if you really wanted it. It was a colorful place.

[Makeupaname]

For price wise, if the going rate is 1 K 2 K (will use HKD) for L / T it is a good deal so I would give it a go.

The problem with LT from D3 is the late start. Before 2 AM there may only be 3-4 FLs there. About 3-4 AM is the peak time. By the time you make your choice and get to your hotel room and finish round 1 its already morning.

When I worked in Macau a few years back, I would go to sleep early, then set my alarm and go there in the early morning. It was in the AIA building then.

edit: note I was just reviewing my old posts. I may have mixed up D2 and D3 in Fishermans wharf. Same owner, near same logo, but one is geared for Chinese and one is geared for non-Chinese.

it may be hard to describe but i can say for sure which is which. they are both on the same walkway that is parallel to the Sands Casino. the one on the Sands side is for Chinese, the one that is closer to the water side (ferry terminal side) is for non-Chinese. they are about a 1-2 minute walk apart

[Xfreak0000]

Freelancers, Macau is very small, not many options.

D3 disco, Fishermans wharf across from the Sands. Can find around 10-15 FLs, filipina, indo, viet, african. Action starts very late 2 AM and later. Asking price 2000-3000 MOP, accepting price 1000-2000 MOP. I last went here about 6 months ago.

D2 disco, Fishermans wharf across from the Sands. Geared towards Chinese customers, not sure if the girls were FLs or just buy me drink girls. Read on facebook they now have topless waitresses. I last went here about 1 year ago.

Lion Bar, MGM. Occasionally find a handful of FLs. I last went here about 2 years ago, not sure of current status.

Cubic, club / disco, City of Dreams. Handful of FLs mixed in with regular club goers. I last went here about 2 years ago, not sure of current status.

Pasha, club / disco, Studio City. Heard you can find a handful of FLs mixed in with regular club goers. Never been there.

Hello Makeupaname,

Thanks a lot for the brief ups of all happenings.

For price wise, if the going rate is 1 K 2 K (will use HKD) for L / T it is a good deal so I would give it a go.

Googled D2 club and yes they says it has topless girls.

IF anybody can amend some more recent info or places it would be of great help.

To Fast Eddie.

I know the crackdowns, but I heard that now the FLs scattered to all the hotels and they do sales in the casino such as Sheraton, Lisbon, etc. Will check when I am there to confirm.