Kuala Lumpur

[MohdirFan82]

What you doing going to in kl is, find same girls Thai, Cambodian, Indon, abd chinese here in kl.

Unless you want to taste local with high premier.

Almost 90% of girls are import. So if you in Thailand, you better off getting better bang for your bucks.

Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:.

[LocalBoy4]

I was at Fuji Spa last Friday. It was a bad experience. At least you got to get some action. I didn't at all! Not to sure if any of you has experience this before.

Went there with my friend about 1 am, drove around the neighbourhood looking for parking, I noticed also WG hanging around further inwards towards the Chinese school at the end of the road. They could be Viet, there was a really tall lady with nice set of boobs standing at the corner where the WG were hanging out, she was wearing a white top and white shorts, could be the mamasan. Interested, but I thought of getting a bit of a massage and a fuck so we headed for the spa.

Went there via the front door of the KTV, was greeted by a few ushers and we buzzed the door to the spa. Took about half a minute before we were greeted by the captain. Chinese guy with his hp hands free ear piece stuck to his right ear. To my disappointment he told me they didn't have any of the ladies there so I had to come back in half an hour. Oh well, I thought, since we were hungry, decided to get a bite to eat before coming back.

I experienced the same as you. Reckon I should post my experience so other posters don't think yours is a one off. First time I went there on Wednesday 03 April at about 9:30 pm, Papasan (the shorter chinese guy) said they had no girls. Funny thing was I had called earlier and the receptionist didn't warn me. So, next day I phoned and asked specifically, if there were girls. Yes, was the answer. Headed there about 9:30 pm. There were hardly any customers (I reckon the previous day they may have had an entourage of Chinese clientele). I was the only customer using hot tub (they have four) and the steam room.

After steam room, led in to room where the girls were called. From a choice of 4 girls (Indo, Thai, 2 x Viet), I chose a Viet girl. After choosing, the girl leads you by hand to room, where she showers and washes me, especially downstairs. Back in the room, I asked for a little massage. Even though she doesn't do massage (other girls also don't) she agrees. Afterwards, she gave CB, leading to BBBJ, which was amazing. Then we had FJ in 3 positions. After the deed, went back to resting area. They offer you drinks and food. After a bit of a rest, asked papasan for 2nd round. He said there is a 5 or 10% discount (I don't remember exactly but second round came to about 210 RM).

Lineup time, there were about 10 girls. I picked a different Vietnamese. She didn't even know I picked her and tried to walk away with the other girls. So I told papasan (who sits there with you while you do the picking). May be each girl should wear a number (like in some of the Thai places huh? Anyway, just as the girl and I entered the room, I figured she is going to be a dud (I asked her something in Vietnamese and she did not understand. The previous girl understood me). So I come out and speak to papasan (the tall Chinese guy who was dealing with me today) to change girls. Rather than going through the line-up I ask for the same girl as 1st round.

We go in same room again, she washes me. We chat for a bit, then she starts with CB, BBBJ, FJ, again different positions. We go at it for 15-20 minutes. She had a large tattoo on her back. Quite a sight from behind. After deed, we chat again and part ways. It was about 2 am by then. Came home a happy bunny. BTW, Like you I noticed F-lancer WG on side street near spa when coming home on taxi. Taxi driver slowed right down near WG. Don't know if he has some arrangement with them or just curious himself. Anyway, didn't bother stopping for shott, but made mental note.

2nd visit Thursday 25 April. First Visited green elephant then Hokkaido (formerly Sky River), both no go. By the time I got to Fuji it was about 11 pm. After being escorted to the resting area (where they serve food / drink) by shorter of the two papasans, we start talking. I ask to use hot tub. Was told no hottub, due to water cut during that W / end in KL. Just so happens that the area Fuji is located is affected. I ask if if they have water for shower in room, he says 'yes'. I believe him. At lineup there are only three girls. Two Vietnamese, 1 x Indo. I pick the chubbier of the viet girl, because she has pretty face.

In the room, it turns out there is no shower. Instead there is a water bucket filled with water. She pours water on my nipples and Johny. Washed with water cup. It was huge turn off, as the water was cold and it didn't do anything to get me in the mood.

Anyway, back in the room, she gives me CB, BBBJ (which was good), then gets on top and rides. One thing I notice at this point is the girl from 1st time (Ruby) and this girl (also called Ruby. Many Viet girls choose this name I reckon. Translating Vietnamese name to English it becomes Ruby. Vietnamese name very hard to pronounce) both followed the same process. Wash, CB, BBBJ, FJ. Also, if you don't take the lead after BBBJ and go for the FJ position you want, she will invariable get on top of you. So, it seems all the girls are trained with this process. In a way it's good because you won't end up with a girl who is looking to just do deed and skip CB, BBBJ. But then you may find the whole experience a bit repetitive if you go there second time (for second shot of first time. I didn't really mind it being repetitive).

Anyway, she rode me for about 5 minutes then I shot load. I think result of having to hunt around for place, and going without any action (even self-HJ) for about 4-5 days. Also I've found this has happened to me with the slightly chubbier WG's, especially if they have very smooth skin.

Anyway, shot unloaded. I was reasonably happy.

Headed to waiting area. Rested for a while. Maybe 1 HR. Asked Papasan for second shot. This time line-up had about 15 girls. I picked a Viet with hot figure because she smiled at me. Led me to room. By now, there was hot water in the shower. She washed me. Then back to room for CB, then she started tugging at Johny. This is where it went downhill. Johyn was not sailing today. She was tugging at it. Up to now all the girls had gone from CB to BBBJ and everything went fine. After some self-HJ and fingering her, Johny did go full mast. We did missionary for a bit, but soon Mr. X was not playing ball.

She tried to finish off with HJ. But her technique was not good. I tried to finish off with own hand. By then all system were down. She said in all of her 4 years its never happened. If it's true it was really a shame, because she did have a smoking hot figure. Anyway, this has only happened to me once in Vietnam (spa called Sammys in Vung Tau) with similar smoking hot girl. That girl also did bad HJ, which put me off. At least now I know what may be causing it. (Bad HJ).

Left somewhat disappointed, but somewhat happy that there was liftoff on one shot.

All in all, I think, you might have a really good session here, if you pick right girl. I've seen some customers speaking to WG in resting area. Not sure how that works. DO you make selection, then return to resting area, then ask girl to come there where you talk to her?. May be you can ask papasan how this works.

Also, when you enter, ask reception if you need a card with number. First time I went there it was never an issue. Second time, after picking girl at lineup, both papasans asked me for this card with number, which I never received. Caused a bit of confusion but wasn't a show stopper. Apologies if the report is a bit all over the place. But rather get word out.

[Bijou]

Ok guys, I did RTFF. I'm currently in my SE ASIA trip starting Pattaya and now in Phnom Penh. I had a last minute change of plans and would like to visit KL tomorrow (Tuesday) for 1 night before flying off elsewhere. In reading the more recent reports and ROD for KL, could anyone provide clarification and updates on the following:

1. Status in Beach Club? Still a possible crackdown with fewer girls? More girls in the lower "cafe" part instead of the more "bar" part? Still acceptable of 400 for ST?

2. Any updates on Thai Club as to type of girls and prices? Also, TC and BC walking distance to avoid taxi mafia?

3. Any updates on Zion, Gypsy, others?

4. A long time ago, in RTFF I saw detailed directions to the "ACE complex" where if I recall, there is some sort of food court with girls available for pickup. Although, not really my scene, I am curious about this and depending on how much time I have to kill after I get into KL, I may consider going. Anybody have any updates on this scene and how best to get to this location and distance by taxi from the BC or TC area where I most likely will be staying?

I prefer freelancers in bars, clubs, discos and not into spas, massages, or ordering incall.

Thanks in advance.

[Rsmith75]

Definitely not open. I went there on Thursday about 10 pm. It has two yellow lamps on each side of front door. Hokkaido, is next to it. (I think that's a restaurant).
I asked the guy at the Chinese restaurant in the corner of the street (the guy outside with a desk). He said, sky river is the one with the two yellow lamps. Seems he's right, because on google maps skyriver is still there and the picture has two yellow lamps.

Went there pressed the bell a few times, no answer.

Actually, I first visited Green Elephant (near low yat plaza) in Bukit Bintang. Asked papasan the score. Seemed okay (about 200 RM for Vietnamese, Indonesian, Thai. 300 RM for chinese with B2B). However, when I asked if I could see a room, he said they are all booked..

I was at Fuji Spa last Friday. It was a bad experience. At least you got to get some action. I didn't at all! Not to sure if any of you has experience this before.

Went there with my friend about 1 am, drove around the neighbourhood looking for parking, I noticed also WG hanging around further inwards towards the Chinese school at the end of the road. They could be Viet, there was a really tall lady with nice set of boobs standing at the corner where the WG were hanging out, she was wearing a white top and white shorts, could be the mamasan. Interested, but I thought of getting a bit of a massage and a fuck so we headed for the spa.

Went there via the front door of the KTV, was greeted by a few ushers and we buzzed the door to the spa. Took about half a minute before we were greeted by the captain. Chinese guy with his hp hands free ear piece stuck to his right ear. To my disappointment he told me they didn't have any of the ladies there so I had to come back in half an hour. Oh well, I thought, since we were hungry, decided to get a bite to eat before coming back.

Exactly half an hour later, we got back to the spa, we noticed all the lights on the building were off. Puzzled, and thinking only of our dicks, we went ahead inside anyway since there was still some people at the front desk at the KTV. Buzzed the door to the spa, a different Chinese gentleman, also with his hp hands free ear piece on his right ear, opened the door for us and told us they were closed!

We were shocked and very disappointed. 1st they tell us to come back and then they tell us that they were closed. So we thought last resort go check out the WG at the end of the road. To our dismay, they were gone too!

By that time it was already 2.30 am, thought of calling a pimp as advertised on the Internet but not to sure if it was safe. So we called it a night since it was a long day working anyway.

What a shitty start to the weekend to go back with a limp dick.

[LocalBoy4]

Here is the photo. It says refleksologi and aromaterapi above the name "Hokkaido", so it doesn't look like a restaurant to me.

You're right. It's definitely not a restaurant.

Before I went there I googled 'Hokkaido kuala lumpur' and the directions to 'Hokkaido Seafood Restaurant' came up. Then I remembered it used to be called 'sky river', so searched for that instead.

The "Hokkaido" sign is to the left of the entrance isn't it? And the entrance has two lamps on either side of the door? Didn't seem like there was anyone inside. Pressed the bell, there was no answer.

[Irish Mongrel]

I am in Batam now.

My sweet Viet "girlfriend" of the report below has just written me that yesterday she went with a customer (her third customer, being me her second) to hotel. He was rude, and she wanted to leave the room because of that. He got violent and hit her. He punched her belly.

Pisses me off when this shit happens, having personal experience of what these girls go thru with the local authorities, they certainly don; t need it from arseholes like this. I have stepped in between a girl and sub-continetal guys a couple of times. Once in Hong Kong, the other in BATS in Jakarta. Had one guy get very shirty at me, but a: I can handle my self (thank you to the military and the back streets of Belfast for that), and be: I was very regular in BATS at the time, knew the bouncers very well, and very quickly one of them was standing beside me asking if I was having any troubles, with a broad smile on his face. Bit of a sucker for a damsel in distress, and it does get you a lot of kudos.

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I am in Batam now.
My sweet Viet "girlfriend" of the report below has just written me that yesterday she went with a customer (her third customer, being me her second) to hotel. He was rude, and she wanted to leave the room because of that. He got violent and hit her. He punched her belly.
She called me, crying in her bed. Her belly is still painful.
I asked who was this guy and from where, she said Indian. Surprised? I told her to be careful in selecting people, but she has no experience yet in understanding who could be dangerous and who not.
She said she will never go to hotel anymore, because it's too dangerous. She will earn tips for drinking with guests at TC, or so she hopes.
Now you understand why girls become hard and cold after few months of work. Few assholes like that guy are enough. I wish him to find appropriate reward from someone else, more nasty than this naive girl.

No words can describe my disgust and contempt for individuals that treat WG as this person did. I do not confess to be the champion or protector of these ladies. It is easy to see why WG prefer certain nationalities as opposed to others and yes I am not that discriminatory to believe that the perp could be of any nationality. I am a strong believer in karma and I am sure, as BP suggests, he will get his just deserts one day soon.

Many posters report on the tactics and trickery of WG and although every so often yes I get scammed I am firmly of the opinion that a MO of respect and courtesy brings you greater rewards and a more genuine experience from the girls.

NI.

[Black Page]

I am in Batam now.

My sweet Viet "girlfriend" of the report below has just written me that yesterday she went with a customer (her third customer, being me her second) to hotel. He was rude, and she wanted to leave the room because of that. He got violent and hit her. He punched her belly.

She called me, crying in her bed. Her belly is still painful.

I asked who was this guy and from where, she said Indian. [Deleted by Admin] I told her to be careful in selecting people, but she has no experience yet in understanding who could be dangerous and who not.
She said she will never go to hotel anymore, because it's too dangerous. She will earn tips for drinking with guests at TC, or so she hopes.

Now you understand why girls become hard and cold after few months of work. Few assholes like that guy are enough. I wish him to find appropriate reward from someone else, more nasty than this naive girl.

[Black Page]

On my third night, I started with Changkat. As usual, all working ladies were old, but with a lot of self-esteem (I did not bother to ask this time, but in the past I always received propositions for fees much higher than in BC, and by ladies who were much older and less sexy).

I moved to BC. More people than in the previous night, and more sexy girls, but again all old veterans, sharks. I talked with a couple of them, and their starting price was 500-600 for ONE HOUR (gosh!

No need to waste my little money for them.

Said all this, some Viets there are really sexy, although I would not expect any GFE from a girl who has been in this business for years already (the report from the great guy Nazgylg15 is a NOTABLE EXCEPTION. Kudos for him!

I decided to go to Genesis Spa, assessing that for 300 there I could have more fun and maybe even better GFE than from a girl in BC for 600.

Now, see the Destiny how unpredictable it could be?

Passing by Thai Club, I spot a pretty sweet Viet girl smiling to me from inside. She's alone. She looks shy. She looks lost. I take 10 seconds to feel that MAYBE she is not a shark veteran like all others. It's worth to check. Did I find the last gem in the exhausted mine of Jl. P. Ramlee? I walk back to my steps and I enter TC. I find her sitting there alone, looking around.

Best hit of good luck of the year. She is new, she looks 20 (but later I discover she's 30+), she is new to KL. She has been in TC for 1 week, and I am her second customer who takes her to hotel (how can I be sure about this? I spent hours with her in my bed).

She looks like a fish out of water. Zero English, but Google Translate is our best friend in these cases. She is genuinely happy to be with someone who cares about her.

Unfortunately, her friends come to us and tell her to request me 1000 for overnight, or 600 for one hour. I tell her that she the only girl I could take with me, but I cannot spend more than 400.

To cut long story short, she accepts, but at the end I gave her 500 in the morning.
Based on the current situation in KL, having a real Viet girlfriend who sleeps all night with me holding me tight is not a common opportunity. I won a lottery.
No skills, but who cares? If I want a performer, I must go to a spa, or take a robot with 3 years experience in KL.

[Black Page]

Hi,
I will be in KL for 3 more days. Need some action or some good massage in bukit bintang area. Please suggest the places with price.

Nothing more needed? The Information Counter here is presently closed, but you can address inquiries to the RTFF office, open 24/24 7/7.

[Black Page]

Sorry if my reports are not so well structured as long time ago. This report is about my first night in KL, that is before my lasts couple reports here. I am posting without chronological order.

My first night in KL has been totally pre-arranged. An Indo friend I have from Batam is working here. She has been waiting to meet me again for a long time. I hinted that I would have been happy to take her our with her best friend, and she did not make me repeat twice.

2 hours of fun in Changkat, drinks etc. The problem is that they must be not used to drink much (YES, you know me, I am used to hang out exclusively with good girls), so they got drunk soon, too much drunk. My friend could barely stand.

So we took a taxi and we went to my hotel. WOW these two ladies are hot! When I met my friend first time she was a shy girl. I wonder what happened since then?

Now the bad part. Around 5 am I wake up and I go to bathroom, because I hear some noise. WTF! The girl left the water pipe at the side of the toilet open on the floor! The bathroom was totally flooded, and also half of the room! I woke up the ladies to ask their help. My girl could not wake up, but the other worked hard with me for half an hour to collect the water from the floor.

We could recover the damage, except that the carpet was wet. 3 days later, when I left the hotel, was still wet.

I was really pissed off, so once we finish to dry the floor they left the room because I was supposed to wake up at 8 or 9 to go to work. I gave them 300 each, which is a lot for Batam, but not enough for girls one can meet in Changkat. They did not even count and rushed away feeling guilty for the incident.

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A year ago I wrote when I was in KL " Standard start price and conditions are 500ST, 1 pop, 1 HR, BBBJ, covered FJ, not necessary GFE but never accepted this so don't know. Girls will quickly drop to 400 for above. Just say you know the price. Have got agreement to 350 plus tip 50/100 so if you got good negotiation skills this would be my starting point. Never tried lower. ".

Just because they offer 500 doesn't mean this is how low they will go, nor does it mean you have to go much higher for LT.

I would advise mongers to play from a position of power in that, this is what I will pay you, rather than from them, this is what you must pay me. Once they think they can start dictating terms and conditions you have lost.
Conversely if you have something that is desirable to them like nationality, presentation, demeanor then use it.
NI.

[Nazgylg15]

I spent the Easter weekend at KL and in sync with the recent reports, found less number of ladies at the BC. I thought being the holy week, the girls must have returned home for a break but it seems things are starting to change. Lot of girls would came by to say Hello, and most were worn out. The prices quoted were 500 for ST. I did not bother asking them for LT. At around 1 am, I got hold of a good looking viet with chinese ancestry. She spoke passable English but had terrific body. She started with 500 for ST and I negotiated for 700 LT or 2 shots. We walked back to Concorde and had wonderful sessions. I asked if she would like to stay for breakfast and she agreed. One thing led to another and she ended up staying with me for 3 days. She requested to book her (her words) for second night for RM 800 and for third night (Sunday) she just stayed without any asking for money. We spent the days swimming in the pool, doing hop on hop off tours, visiting malls, batu caves, aquarium, eco forest. Hand in hand like couples. I thought I wasted the holiday by sticking with one girl (however good she was, tad bit disappointed) but per reports I think it was good decision.

Points:

1) Concorde is completely GF as known to most. We used the pool, had breakfast for all three days together, walked around the lobby / lift hand in hand. Faced no issues. BTW I am 32 and she's 27 and we could easily be mistaken for a couple except for our different nationalities. Few stares though from older men / women of Chinese descent.

2) The price at BC seems to be RM 500 for ST and RM 800 and upwards for LT. The quality is not great as mentioned.

3) Grab is cheap and easy to use. I guess you need a local sim though.

4) The LRT and mono are very convenient for rides to bukit bintang, sentral etc.

5) Hardrock cafe was full on Saturday evening around 9 30 pm when I went with my girl to dine. Probably should have been there earlier. Waited for 5 minutes and looked around at the bar, found a few Africans, mostly likely freelancers. Not great quality again.

6) The three nights costed me RM 700+ RM800+ Rm500 (she didn't ask, but I gave her) plus the food, taxi and shopping bill. She was a wonderful girl not a PSE but definitely GFE.

7) She mentioned she had to work on a Saturday night and was free on a Sunday. And again, when were in bistro next to beach club having dinner, we were looking at a Viet girl running around with couple of Caucasian. She mentioned that she was her roommate and was very unhappy with the work. I was really sad at that point and did not continue the conversation. I guess, the freelancers at the beach club are perhaps not freelancers and might have a agent or mamasan.

8) She seemed to be well travelled. During chit chat, found out she got her watch at Singapore and her gold from Dubai. That led to our discussions about BRIX, Ipanema in Singapore and marina at Dubai which were her favourite watering holes. Phew, quite a girl.

9) She stayed at SOHO suites, couple of blocks from thai club. I did visit her apartment couple of times when she wanted to change her dress but stayed back at the lobby as she was sharing the apartment. SOHO seemed good with automated access control and absolutely no questions were asked. Must be GFE I guess and its walkable from Thai and beach club. Point 7,8,9 make me believe that there might something more going on than what meets the eye with freelancers.

Quite an experience being with the same girl for three days and it felt good. Still in touch with her (she has left kl and in Saigon now, crackdown on overstaying? And I said I would love to go for next holiday to Jakarta / Manilla. She suggested lombok instead and said she loved the place whilst she was there. Phew, blew me down, quite a lady.

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Yeah, was there on Monday night as well and was shocked at the lack of girls. No girls in the outside area, no more than 50 hanging around the inside bar area, if even that many. There were some good lookers there, but most of them seemed up themselves. Had a laugh when the girl beside me at the bar asked me to move because I was cramping her style. I burst out laughing, first time I've cramped a hookers style. A friend I was with tried to catch the eye of probably the best looking girl in the place and she just kept turning away! I stayed to just about closing time and had a chat with one girl, but here starting price was 1000 MYR, had my second laugh of the night and called it quits. I guess turnign the place into a sausage fest means the girls can start at alot higher rates than the good old days. Wondering if somebody is trying to push the place out of business.
On a seperate note I started the night in Changkat BB and there was alot of ladies hanging around there. Gypsy Bar had a very healthy volume of Viet FL, most well past their use by date, but a couple weren; t too bad looking. There were some Filipinas hanging around the bar beside Loco, and then the usual mix of others hanging around places like Rockerfellas and the rest of the bars.

Hopefully this will be a short term issue. At least its good to know that if the girls are not at BC then they will be at Changkat. Its just the bloody taxi mafia and their ridiculous prices at that time of night you have to navigate going from one spot to the other. Not that I pay. Just walk up the road or to a near intersection to get a fairer price. Went once about 9 months ago and the place too was a sausage fest but the word was there was a raid possibly on ( still got a companion that night though). BTW are they going down to TC from BC instead?

Starting price 1000 MYR. LOL - try half it minus at least 100 more honey and then we might start talking.

NI.

[Irish Mongrel]

Yesterday Beach Club was half empty. I do not remember such a dry night there! All girls were old veterans, sharks with sharp eyes looking around for a prey.
I even knew several faces already, girls who have been regular in BC for years already.

Really disappointing. It was like visiting the ruins of an ancient city, which was magnificent 1000 years ago, but now lonely and destroyed by the time passed.

Yeah, was there on Monday night as well and was shocked at the lack of girls. No girls in the outside area, no more than 50 hanging around the inside bar area, if even that many. There were some good lookers there, but most of them seemed up themselves. Had a laugh when the girl beside me at the bar asked me to move because I was cramping her style. I burst out laughing, first time I've cramped a hookers style. A friend I was with tried to catch the eye of probably the best looking girl in the place and she just kept turning away! I stayed to just about closing time and had a chat with one girl, but here starting price was 1000 MYR, had my second laugh of the night and called it quits. I guess turnign the place into a sausage fest means the girls can start at alot higher rates than the good old days. Wondering if somebody is trying to push the place out of business.

On a seperate note I started the night in Changkat BB and there was alot of ladies hanging around there. Gypsy Bar had a very healthy volume of Viet FL, most well past their use by date, but a couple weren; t too bad looking. There were some Filipinas hanging around the bar beside Loco, and then the usual mix of others hanging around places like Rockerfellas and the rest of the bars.