Ulanbaatar

[ThreeOhThree]

I was at this place before last year sometime and decided to go back. Overall, not a bad experience, the set up is a lot like Bio, underground, each room has a solid door. A room for body wash, etc. I was shown a room and when lifted the moved the towel and basket, there were handcuffs and a leather whip on the massage bed. The girl was kind of cute, 20-mid 20's, a few tattoos and a little extra weight. After she arrived I asked about the handcuffs and whip and she said there were some clients who liked that kind of thing and for extra tip she could use them on me. I said I would think about it. I wanted to see what chemistry there was between us. The massage was so-so and then the b2 b was okay. I asked about FS, but she said no. I decided not to go for the whip and handcuffs, maybe another time. As I was leaving, I saw a cuter, spinner type girl who might be worth going back to try. The location is out by emart on the northwest side of town, so a bit of a distance for me. It's kind of hard to find, you go through an entrance for some doctor and dentist offices, at the entrance are stairs leading down. There's no sign and no door handle. You have to ring the bell and be let in.

[Selsko]

Ok, so as I mentioned below it is the time for the epic story!

So, starting from the not very succesful experience with massage places I decided to look into the Tinder world. What is happening there. After some matches and chats with some girls, one of them wrote me that she wants money for the meeting, or better to say for the meetings. So, I pay her some amount and we can meet for the whole month. I'm not going to say the price, but first I thought she wanted that for the 1 "date" and decided that it is too much, but if we talk a bit I'll manage to deal for the lower price. So, we moved to whatsapp. There in the communication I realized that she wants that money not for the 1 time, but for the month. I explained her that I don't need a month, only several days so the price shall be lower. She said that she needs exactly this money, becuase of the specific life circumstances. I accepted anyway, because from the perspective of several days it was still a very good deal. After all other details of our "cooperation" were agreed, she sent me a couple of her photos (as I will define later photos were a little bit photoshoped). We agreed to meet first in the bar to have a drink for the start.

In parallel, another girl in Tinder wrote me that she wants "a benefit" from the meeting. We will come back to this line of the story later.

So, we meet with this girl in the bar. First of all, she was not as fit as on the photos. Ok, not fat, but still. And she already came a little bit not sober. Ok. We took drinks (one for each) started to talk. Aaaaaand here we go! She started to tell me about her ex, that he is a bad person etc. (red flag). About her parents who didn't love her (red flag). I listened, didn't react much. I had my own goal for that date. After the drink, I told her like, ok, let's go to the hotel. And she was like "yeaah, maybe let's have one more drink, cammon. We are not in a rush" (red flag). And to be honest I can see that she was getting more and more drunk. With the second drink her stories about parents, boyfriend, yound people in Mongolia (all of them were bad) continued but it was harder to listen because she became more and more drunk. To be fair, after 2 drinks, she also became better looking from my point of view.

After the second drink my suggestion to move to the room was more pushy, so we went to the hotel. However, in the room, situation continued. She took another beer and was like "yeah, no rush, let's drink, lets talk etc. ". This was starting to really bother me. And then, at some point she told me "I need you to give me money now". I was like "whaaat? Money for what? You did nothing, yet". She started to say some bullshit that I need to pay first because she is already there in my room etc. I told her that "no, money after". Then she turned on the stories about the trust, that she is not a working girl, it is just a circumsances in her life and she is not a liar or scammer she will not go anywhere and do her part of the deal. My position was the same. Then she started to whine even more, about the trust and that I need to trust people and she is already in the room and I can say and think anything, but not to call her a scammer or liar. My position was the same and I added "money after, no other options". She said she will leave in this case. Ok, go ahead. Reminder: she is drunk. I was already so tired of that shit, so I told her "go ahead, bye". She asked me money for the cab. I wanted to get rid of her ASAP, so gave her 10 k and she left. In total I wasted approx 2 hours for that.

After she left, I was really happy, actually. However, I still had an intent to have fun so, I went back to Tinder to the girl who wanted a "benefit". There I saw new messages from her, that she urgently needs money and happy to discuss conditions of our "date". We moved to whatsapp. And now amazing night continues!

In Tinder when she wrote about benefits she wrote that she needs to "pay her rent". Here in whatsapp she started to tell me that she had in car accident and now to get her car from the car service (repaired) she needs money. Right now! It was a little bit after midnight. She sent me a photo from her car in some garage (like a proof). And Actually, she promissed to give money back next day!! She will get it at work (I guess salary) and pay me back. It was obvious cascade of red flags, but I decided to continue, just to have fun.

After I said that I have no bank account to send her money (she asked to send it to her) she suggested to bring it to her and sent me location. Then she suggested that she will come on taxi to pick it up, so we can meet in person, talk 5-10 min so I know her and she is not a stranger. I told her that I don't want to borrow her money and I want "to pay her" for "additional services" she was very offended and said she will not sleep with the random guy she never met. Then I suggested to meet next day and asked if she will meet with me if I don't give her money today. She said yes, she will!

Then she continued to tell me that I need to trust people more, that she is not a liar and that she will give me my money back next day. When I asked why does she need to pick up the car at 1 am in the night she started to tell me about sick mom who she need to bring to the hospital next morning. On the question why she cannot call a cab she started to tell that it is unreal in the morning etc.

So, it is already 1 am, so the girl already for an hour trying to get money fom me that "she urgently need right now" by telling me that I need to trust her. After some more endless messages about trust and that she need my help and she would help if she would be me, I said that I'll not give her money just for nothing, but if she come to my hotel first and do the deal, I'm happy to cooperate. Then she turned into psyho and started to write me like "you are an idiot, you will be forever alone. Wish you to stay alone, novody will date you because you don't trust anybody. Like I'm so pure an honest and you stupid guy" etc.

I'm in my room really lauhing on all this crap. Then I pick up the line and wrote her something like "oh no, I don't want to be alone. Look, let's talk. I'm not so bad, I want to trust you". And suddenly, she is back and kind and nice and again talking about the trust, that she really wanted to show me the city tomorrow, really wanted. And she really thinks I'm a nice guy, and we can have fun together etc. On the clock around 2 am and I got a bit tired. So, I turned conversation to "give me benefit today and money yours". She tried a bit more and then turned into "hope you stay alone forever".

Huh. That was the end of my day. Veeeery interesting day or better to say evening / night.

And to finilize this story, next night (around midnight) the first girl sent me a message "can we still have a deal? Probabaly was drunk again and decided to try her luck.

That's how I spent one very fun night (sometimes not very) with the damage for a couple of drinks and 2 girls (or at least one was a girl for sure) that tried to cheat me on the money. Second one asked me to give her 400 k.

[Selsko]

Hi Selsko.

No matter who you are, It is hard to find a masseuse with a good attitude. Can I ask your ethnicity? If you are an Asian guy maybe those girls assumed you were a Chinese and Vietnamese guy. In my observation, Mongolians tend to look down on Asians. If you are an Asian guy, next time you better call yourself Japanese, you might get better service. Or try to be friends with a Mongolian guy and then visit spas together haha.

Nooo, I'm definitely not look like an Asian. Obvious European / American guy.

Yeah, advice to have a local friend is always useful what is not as easy, at least based on my experience. However, for sure somebody who speaks local language is always an advantage. Especially if this person is well-known in such place.

[AlisonBuurgers]

Hi Selsko.

No matter who you are, It is hard to find a masseuse with a good attitude. Can I ask your ethnicity? If you are an Asian guy maybe those girls assumed you were a Chinese and Vietnamese guy. In my observation, Mongolians tend to look down on Asians. If you are an Asian guy, next time you better call yourself Japanese, you might get better service. Or try to be friends with a Mongolian guy and then visit spas together haha.

[Selsko]

Guys, looking on all the info you wrote below I was inspired to try it myself. So, I decided to start from Bio spa.

Bio Spa.

Came there somewhere in the afternoon. Nobody speaks English, but we found the way to communicate (not much to say to each other). I was guided to the room. Then girl came. Later I'll get that her name. Zaya. She had (and I guess still has) cute face and big boobs, but she was chubby. Ok, she showed me (because no English) to undress and guided to washing. Surprisingly for me she washed me. Surprisingly, because I have never had that before. Always just "go wash yourself".

After washing I went to the room and laid down on the table. Massage. It took around 5 min. And then she just gone. Without saying anything. She was absent longer then she did a massage. Really. When she was back I could see that she went to wash herself. She turned off the light and started b2 be. To be fair, with b2 be she tried harder then with regular massage. Touching was included, only outside but everywhere. Which is also normally limited. After some time of not as bad b2 be she / I / we finished and went to washing. She washed me again.

Generally, it was quite disappointing. And the main reason of that was that nobody in the world cares less then Zaya did. That was main problem. Yes, this thing with washing is good and touching possibility is also good, but the attitude ruined everything.

Girl: 4/10 (not my type).

Cleanness: 5/10 (quite good).

Massage: 1/10.

B2 be: 7/10.

General service:4/10 (because of her attitude).

Damage: 140 k.

Something told me that I was just unlucky with the girl. It happens. Then I went to Eelt.

Eelt massage center.

First would say that this place was much cleaner. Felt very good.

Again, no english. And even google translate didn't help much. Girl on the reception didn't understand when I tried to tell her that I want fit / slim girl. Ok, fine. I'm in the room, chubby girl came in. I went out to reception wrote "change the girl" in translator. She got it. In around 5 min new girl came. Based on your previous reports in was Ahcha (or Ahchal) - the girls with the tattoo. I was quite happy, she looked fit. Ok. But (there is always a but), she looked super unsatisfied. Very very unsatisfied. I think maybe it was not her turn but since I asked for a change she have to come and that's why she was angry. Don't know for sure. Just a guess.

Then she washed me, similar to bio, with the difference that washing room is with the massage room, so I didn't need to run in corridor almost naked. Then I laid down and she went out. Was absent quite long. Really. Massage. It was muuuuch better than in Bio. Really good massage, at least on the top part on the body. The again disappeared. After some time back. Continued massage on the other side (still regular massage). Then again disappeared for a long. Came back in a towel and went to the washing room. After that b2 be started. When I was face down she tried to do something. But it was not long. Flipped me. 2 minutes of action and then she just sat on me so I could touch only boobs (not bikini) and just directly veeeery actively to the ending.

When finished she just moved away, took her towel, said something, pointed to the washing room and just went out. Ok, I decided she will come back soon for washing (like it was in Bio). But she didn't. I waited, waited, waited. Nothing, nobody. And even just to wash by myself, there was no soap or anything like that. And to wash out oil you need some soap or gel. Then after a really long time she was back!! Dressed and surprised why I'm still there. She showed me to the shower and said something (I guess she said "wash yourself") and I tried to tell her "give me a soap". She understood, brought sower gel. Washed up, dressed up and left.

Girl: 6/10 (cute face, looked fit, but as soon as she undressed it is not as good).

Cleanness: 8/10.

Massage: 8/10.

B2 be: 2/10.

General service: 5/10.

Damage: 150 k.

Looks like the same case in general. If there would be different attitude from the girl it will be good, however it was not.

I don't know, maybe I'm not lucky, maybe I'm ugly or they just that I'm a foreigner and don't care because of that. No clue.

Thinking to try my luck one more time. Not decided where to go yet and if to go. Any thoughts from experienced users? You already convinced me not to to strip club, so maybe here also can use your good advice.

Later will write about another, not massage-related, case. It was really epic.

[Ericcartman22]

Have to fly to UB for a week, will stay in Shangri La. Any recommendations fo nice bars like NF in Moscow in the old times or Maggies in Beijing?

Don t like Spa Salons to much. Where are all the Mongolian ladies from Maggies in Beijing when they are in UB?

Any recommendations are welcome.

Thank you.

Hi, I was at Cante Nightclub yesterday. The Cante is a Cocktail and Sports bar including a Nightclub. It's a little bit expensive place, but locals said it's the hottest Club of the moment. There were a lot of young girls out and about, but the Club was very full. It's about 1 km walk from Shangri-La on Seoul Street, but the Cante doesn't have a Sign so you can't see the Club from the outside. Just ask a few young people on Seoul Street and they should know where the Club is.

I also went to Stella Nightclub once, which is located in Sapporo near Ulaanbaatar Trainstation. I would say it's more of a Club for the Middleclass, but there are also a lot of young women here and I think it's easier to take a Girl to your Hotel here. I once took a Girl here after buying her plenty of drinks. In Cante It's more the Richkids of Ulaanbaatar or those who think they are.

If you want we can go to a Club together, I like the Nightlife from Ulaanbaatar. I deliberately avoided other highly praised Nightclubs like MINT or Choco because, in my opinion, the women here are only search the money, from what I've heard so far.

[Ericcartman22]

Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry what happened in UB massage.

About Bio SPA. Have they fixed their weird mold smell? Or could you still smell the mold? Also have you cached the masseuse's name by any chance?

Hi, so it smelled a little strange in the washroom, I didn't smell anything in the massage room.

The girl told me her name was Otgoo. I think she was in her early 20's to mid 20's.

She wasn't a bombshell but she was cute, slim and did her job excellently.

[Ericcartman22]

Thank you for sharing your experience Ericcartman22! This also my question, how to communicate with the girls for example? Do they speak english? E. g. If the girl doesn't how to deal with her about extras or about anything at all?

Hi, I didn't talk to the girl much and wasn't interested in anything extra. She seemed to have understood the most necessary things I said in english.

[MNGGuy99]

I am a silent reader of this forum because I am often in Mongolia. I don't speak Mongolian and my English isn't perfect either. I went to BIO massage today and can highly recommend the place. I don't know the usual prices, but I paid 140,000 MNT for a full body wash + massage + B2 B. My masseuse was a young, cute girl who was doing the massage and B2 B was completely naked. I left the place very satisfied. However, I can't recommend the UB massage on the other side of the street at all, I paid 80,000 MNT there just for the massage + happy ending. The masseuse there asked me for extra money, when I said no, she didn't bring the happy ending to the end. I didn't complain to the receptionist, paid and left.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry what happened in UB massage.

About Bio SPA. Have they fixed their weird mold smell? Or could you still smell the mold? Also have you cached the masseuse's name by any chance?

[MNGGuy99]

Have to fly to UB for a week, will stay in Shangri La. Any recommendations fo nice bars like NF in Moscow in the old times or Maggies in Beijing?

Don t like Spa Salons to much. Where are all the Mongolian ladies from Maggies in Beijing when they are in UB?

Any recommendations are welcome.

Thank you.

Hello George 6969.

I'm not a big night club guy but I will list out the places I think you should visit. Starting from the most interesting night club for hunting:

1. EON Club.

2. ZUU.

3. Choco.

4. MINT.

Also a good place where you can find girls to pick up: Irish pub (Grand Khan) - This is a restaurant well know with its "Cola-Girls". Some locals are calling the girls as cola-girls because they usually have 1 can of coke on their table and checking out the foreigners in the restaurant. 1 can of cola or some other boring drink should be a sign of "Pick me up. I'd love to go your place". I'm sure most of them will ask you for money before they leave the table with you. I'm also not sure about the timing, I'm guessing from 8 pm to 11 pm they should be available with their sad 1 can of cola.

Happy hunting!

[MNGGuy99]

And again, thanks for the info! Sorry to hear about your poor experience.

Several more questions.

How much 1 lap dance cost?

Don't they have kind of rooms for the private dance? Normaly, in strip clubs they have a small rooms with 1 couch only, where you go with the girl for a lap dance. And in that rooms girls are usually get fully naked and much more open with you.

I saw this G-club. Not much info, that's why I asked you. It is very interesting that they tell you to wait until 3-4 am. Strange for me. Because if you look on the location of that place you will see, that strip club on the 2nd floor, massage place on the first floor and 3+ floors are hotel rooms. And I didn't find this hotel on any aggregators. So, on the first look it is kind of one big hooker place.

To understand the range. Styx - 1 mln. Ok. This G-club was quite a long ago. Considering inflation, what should man expect there (in terms of expences)? And how much you leave in the massage place (+ additional services)?

The Styx club had private VIP rooms. But I never considered about the VIP rooms. The main hall was good enough I also like being in public. The main hall had rounded couch seats near to the stage and outer circle seating along the walls. If you want to have a lapdance, you just need to look at the girl you want and raise your hand.

G-Club tax was around 20 k and 1 lapdance costed 5 k at that time. I'm guessing now, the tax should be around 50 k and dances would cost 10-20 k. I don't know about the massage place inside the hotel. This is my first time I read that there is a massage place inside the hotel.

[George 6969]

Have to fly to UB for a week, will stay in Shangri La. Any recommendations fo nice bars like NF in Moscow in the old times or Maggies in Beijing?

Don t like Spa Salons to much. Where are all the Mongolian ladies from Maggies in Beijing when they are in UB?

Any recommendations are welcome.

Thank you.

[Selsko]

I am a silent reader of this forum because I am often in Mongolia. I don't speak Mongolian and my English isn't perfect either. I went to BIO massage today and can highly recommend the place. I don't know the usual prices, but I paid 140,000 MNT for a full body wash + massage + B2 B. My masseuse was a young, cute girl who was doing the massage and B2 B was completely naked. I left the place very satisfied. However, I can't recommend the UB massage on the other side of the street at all, I paid 80,000 MNT there just for the massage + happy ending. The masseuse there asked me for extra money, when I said no, she didn't bring the happy ending to the end. I didn't complain to the receptionist, paid and left.

Thank you for sharing your experience Ericcartman22! This also my question, how to communicate with the girls for example? Do they speak english? E. g. If the girl doesn't how to deal with her about extras or about anything at all?

[Ericcartman22]

I am a silent reader of this forum because I am often in Mongolia. I don't speak Mongolian and my English isn't perfect either. I went to BIO massage today and can highly recommend the place. I don't know the usual prices, but I paid 140,000 MNT for a full body wash + massage + B2 B. My masseuse was a young, cute girl who was doing the massage and B2 B was completely naked. I left the place very satisfied. However, I can't recommend the UB massage on the other side of the street at all, I paid 80,000 MNT there just for the massage + happy ending. The masseuse there asked me for extra money, when I said no, she didn't bring the happy ending to the end. I didn't complain to the receptionist, paid and left.

[Selsko]

Thank you once again Selsko. I usually don't go to strip clubs, but I will share the places I know and my general view of strip clubs.

My general view: For me, strip clubs are a good place to entertain the people I'm with. There are occasions I need to entertain my team and / or international visitors to our company. I solely visit these places to kill time and / or build up "bro-trust" to the people I'm together. Since I had a failed attempt to take one of the girls home, I haven't tried it again. It was a total waste of money and time.

More to the story. Here (if you want to know the strip clubs skip to the next paragraph): Once I felt lonely and had a pile of cash in my backpack and sipping whiskey at my office and browsing apple's website. I left the office around 10 pm and was walking on the peace bridge when I remembered there is this popular strip bar inside peace hotel. When I walked in, the place just opened. I paid the tax and waited until the girls to come on the stage. It was surprising how fast the place became full. In about an hour, the place was full with people and I could see the striper girl's lingerie became more slutty. Or it could be the shitty beer effect LOL. Anyways, my analog casio watch was displaying 12 am, I called the girl I like by raising my hand to give me a lap dance. The girls where 5/10. While she was bouncing on my lap, I asked her to leave the place with me and she told me that I should wait until her shift will finish at 3:30 am. When it was about time, I was waiting in a taxi where I could see the main entrance of the hotel and waited for the stripper girl. It was hard to recognize her because the girls had these masks on their faces to hide their identity. The only way I could recognize the girl was a tattoo on her neck. It was already past 4 am when she finally came out. She recognized me and stepped in the car. I was starving and tired af. I agreed to pay 70 k upfront to spent the night (or the morning). It's back in 2013, UB had only 1 store that was open at that time and we grabbed a bite. My previous rating on this girl went down to 3/10 when I saw her in the supermarket with bright lights. She was this rubbish / ghetto girl that couldn't stop smoking and spitting while we were walking. And she was constantly on her phone arguing to get her 10 k from a friend that she lent to her. I couldn't see myself banging this girl and told her that she can keep the 70 k and I left. My casio was displaying 6 am so I went home and got ready for work. I have spent about 250 k that night just to lose my sleep. It wasn't worth it. When I shared this story with my people, almost everyone had a similar experience, they also had to wait until the clubs closes to take the strippers with them. So, I assume it's common to wait until the strippers are off work.

- Peace Hotel. I have seen the name has changed to G-Strip club. Girls will take off tops while lap-dance only. Last visit in 2013. Cheap place with average girls.

- Panorama strip club. Shitty place with shitty girls. Girls won't take off their top. Last visit 2017. Cheap.

And again, thanks for the info! Sorry to hear about your poor experience.

Several more questions.

How much 1 lap dance cost?

Don't they have kind of rooms for the private dance? Normally, in strip clubs they have a small rooms with 1 couch only, where you go with the girl for a lap dance. And in that rooms girls are usually get fully naked and much more open with you.

I saw this G-club. Not much info, that's why I asked you. It is very interesting that they tell you to wait until 3-4 am. Strange for me. Because if you look on the location of that place you will see, that strip club on the 2nd floor, massage place on the first floor and 3+ floors are hotel rooms. And I didn't find this hotel on any aggregators. So, on the first look it is kind of one big hooker place.

To understand the range. Styx - 1 mln. Ok. This G-club was quite a long ago. Considering inflation, what should man expect there (in terms of expenses)? And how much you leave in the massage place (+ additional services)?