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[Hp Xt]

Don't put words in my mouth. No I did not say that but I implied that if you choose to stay @ LL, chances are you will bump into an ISG member.

Now can you tell me of a place where you can go, have a drink and freely talk about your Hobby? As ISG members, we are all in some way attracted to pussy, but staying at a regular hotel, can you really discuss this? and if yes, with who?

By the way, where are the Pro and TT ? are these shit disturbers dead or what? we talk about LL for 3 posts in a row and these guys have not showed up yet? what the fuck? is this forum really changing? (for the better... LOL)

Agree, even "stole" a bg from LL but still got good advice from Herr Giotto. Stopped by a couple of months ago, had dinner at the pool. Food was great, saw Herr Giotto holding court.

Mike

[Shamuc]

All, Before we spread discussions about Livingstone's to all other threads ......... And: We do not rip-off anybody!
http://www.livingstones.co.th

LL is a great place and worth every Baht. I will be there next week again - although only for 1 night - and I am already looking forward to it..

Cheers from Shanghai,
Shamuc

[Michi]

All,

Before we spread discussions about Livingstone's to all other threads of the Thailand forum some clarifications on the issues below:

- Livingstone's has some customers reading the ISG. Usually 2 or 3 are staying here at the Lodge. Sometimes - especially on weekends - more ISG guys come to the Sports Lounge.

- If ISG members are here, and I am aware of it, and I see those guys - I introduce them with the remark: "You have the same hobby". I do not mention user names or the forum. I leave it to those members whether they can get along with each other or not.

- There are no regular members here "most nights". Most nights the only ISG member who is here - is me .

- As for exchanged information: I never mention names of providers in the forum, because I know what happens if I do. Here - at my desk, talking to my customers - I sometimes mention specific providers, IF I THINK IT COULD FIT.

- Newbies: There is a maximum of 1 newbie a month arriving here at Livingstones. He will be briefed when he arrives and he talks to me. We have much more returning customers than newbies here at the Lodge.

- The advice I give to our guests has definitely not much to do with Livingstone's. I mention the good hostess bars in Soi 33 as well as other good places in the other red light districts. I try to give honest advice, that's basically it.

- I don't know whether we saved our customers money in the past, but if we see them being ripped-off we will intervene - of course. And we will give them the advice to buy gems/clothes/etc. in the cheaper places we know.

- It is possible that we saved some customers some time - I sometimes draw maps to give the customers an overview where the places are he could be interested in . I think that saves time ...

Now - there are more important things in life than Livingstone's and the ISG. And there are some people here who take things way to serious.

Bottom Line: We are running a hotel in Bangkok. We try to provide the best service for our customers, including the best advice we can give. But: This is NOT the ISG Hotel Bangkok!

And: We do not rip-off anybody!


Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th

Stayed there a couple of times and can confirm what Giotto says. Even if i never had a longer chat with him, but only with Guido.

Mike

P.S. thanks for the service and openness

[Giotto]

All,

Before we spread discussions about Livingstone's to all other threads of the Thailand forum some clarifications on the issues below:

- Livingstone's has some customers reading the ISG. Usually 2 or 3 are staying here at the Lodge. Sometimes - especially on weekends - more ISG guys come to the Sports Lounge.

- If ISG members are here, and I am aware of it, and I see those guys - I introduce them with the remark: "You have the same hobby". I do not mention user names or the forum. I leave it to those members whether they can get along with each other or not.

- There are no regular members here "most nights". Most nights the only ISG member who is here - is me .

- As for exchanged information: I never mention names of providers in the forum, because I know what happens if I do. Here - at my desk, talking to my customers - I sometimes mention specific providers, IF I THINK IT COULD FIT.

- Newbies: There is a maximum of 1 newbie a month arriving here at Livingstones. He will be briefed when he arrives and he talks to me. We have much more returning customers than newbies here at the Lodge.

- The advice I give to our guests has definitely not much to do with Livingstone's. I mention the good hostess bars in Soi 33 as well as other good places in the other red light districts. I try to give honest advice, that's basically it.

- I don't know whether we saved our customers money in the past, but if we see them being ripped-off we will intervene - of course. And we will give them the advice to buy gems/clothes/etc. in the cheaper places we know.

- It is possible that we saved some customers some time - I sometimes draw maps to give the customers an overview where the places are he could be interested in . I think that saves time ...

Now - there are more important things in life than Livingstone's and the ISG. And there are some people here who take things way to serious.

Bottom Line: We are running a hotel in Bangkok. We try to provide the best service for our customers, including the best advice we can give. But: This is NOT the ISG Hotel Bangkok!

And: We do not rip-off anybody!


Giotto
http://www.livingstones.co.th

[Wendella]

Don't put words in my mouth.

Sorry... was just getting confused, now I see you were chiming in with your own different viewpoint than what the first guy was saying.

And yeah, so as not to have it turn into what you refer to, I'll say the rest in PM.

But what you say clarifies a bit, can definitely see the attraction for some to wanna participate in sth like that. Still wouldn't be too into it myself, personally, but can understand how many would.

[Wendella]

You raise a very good question that deserves a reply.

Replied to you in PM on this. "Safe" in that other thread was about trying to avoid the place being shut down by police in that locatoin, which happens a lot there. Not sure if that came across in the thread or not. But even if "safe" means not overrun and prices driven up, I can understand. I think the "home" they're referring to is another thread, not the Bangkok one here.

[11Bravo]

@ LL, you will surely bump into Fellow ISG members, junior or senior

Is it the isg secret handshake that's the identifier, or did I miss out AGAIN on the t-shirt give-away...

[NicFrenchy]

And you're saying that there are regular members here who are usually there at LL most nights.... and that they prefer to keep good info off the forum?

Don't put words in my mouth. No I did not say that but I implied that if you choose to stay @ LL, chances are you will bump into an ISG member.

People can read all they want in the forum, but writing is a little tiring, especially for people like us (English being my 3rd language) so the experiences are shortened, some info is voluntarily left out.

If I have a FAV somewhere, I am not likely to post her name anywhere on ISG... because if I do, then I might kiss her goodbye as she will be booked solid for the next few months (yes, ISG has that power).

Now can you tell me of a place where you can go, have a drink and freely talk about your Hobby? As ISG members, we are all in some way attracted to pussy, but staying at a regular hotel, can you really discuss this? and if yes, with who?

@ LL, you will surely bump into Fellow ISG members, junior or senior, but that always lead to some great conversations and you can get great insight on some places that few would visit (see my post on the smaller Cowboy bars for example).

Most ISG tourists come to LOS for sex and I, for one think this is very important that they stay somewhere where they will be "understood" and even encouraged to discuss their hobby.

Some might disagree, but to each their own.

By the way, where are the Pro and TT ? are these shit disturbers dead or what? we talk about LL for 3 posts in a row and these guys have not showed up yet? what the fuck? is this forum really changing? (for the better... LOL)

[11Bravo]

So you would say you would recommend it not for the typical newbie who wants to have his own adventure, head out and explore on his own, but more for the newbie who has very limited time and doesn't want to go out and take any chances, wants sure things only.

IMHO, there are several types of newbies, or even "not newbies", who fall into the 2 basic categories mentioned: the 'adventurer', who goes out on his own with some advice garnered here, and the 'guided tour' type, who wants to be led around, not picking out his own, but seeking out the 'tried and true' recommendations of others.

Perhaps not exactly on this thread, but check most others, and there are constant posts of "send me her contact details", even the skill of a PM being somewhat of a lost art.

For me, the recommendation of a place and a girl sufficient, I'll go see if I can find her myself, evaluate her appeal to me, and act accordingly. And if I can't find her, well, in most venues anywhere, there's more than 1 provider. And other venues...

But that's just me.

I happen to stay at the Royal President, Soi 15, as I like their serviced apt layout, with the large fridge, and large room, because I do spend more time in the room than probably most, given that I'm also here to relax and I've seen most of the tourist sights that interest me.

But it does take all types. I've never stayed at LL, so can't speak specifically about it. Given it's still in business, must be doing something right.

It's just one of many possibilities... To each his own

[Traveler1234]

And you're saying that there are regular members here who are usually there at LL most nights.... and that they prefer to keep good info off the forum?

You raise a very good question that deserves a reply.

The short version is yes. LL's name might come up more often....because Giotto has own sub-forum.

The longer version is this happens just not at LL but other 'hang-outs', and not just in LOS. For instance, if a group of guys get together at the Beergarten or Thermae, same banter occurs. When guys meet up in say Beijing (Maggie's) or Shanghai (old Tong Ru Lu bars), same.

I, for one, wish folks would provide more info on-line. But some of the sub-forums have a distinct sub-culture to them,eg, Malaysia (always worried about the 'men in black') and your favorite haunt, Vietnam!.

In fact, I remember distinctly a recent exchange (of which I was involved) where a few vehemently argued that it was not 'safe' to share/provide good info on the forum. http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...&postcount=317

If I quoted you out of context, my apologies.

[Wendella]

Actually, you can just save money by meeting members there. Many things we do not write on the forum and keep for ourselves, but, when meeting a member in the flesh, we are willing to share that info.

Which Parlor offers the best selection? who is performing well? which place to go for specific things... and also which ladies provide over and above the call of duty (without charging or asking for tips).

If you are on holidays for a few nights, you do not want to "try your luck" too much, you want to know exactly where to go and who to meet so that you maximize your SOGs (unless you fuck 14 times a day like the Rabbit)

But we were talking about a typical newbie. So you would say you would recommend it not for the typical newbie who wants to have his own adventure, head out and explore on his own, but more for the newbie who has very limited time and doesn't want to go out and take any chances, wants sure things only. So more the type of guy who wants to go meet a sure thing that a guy he met at LL had already had in the past. Hm. I'm not sure I'd ever want to seek out that kind of advice. Takes much of the appeal away when you have met the guy who did her before, and he talks about it.

And you're saying that there are regular members here who are usually there at LL most nights.... and that they prefer to keep good info off the forum?

[The Pro]

So what you are saying is that you do not write accurate informaiton on here, you keep it all to yourselves and have a little buddies meeting at LL, then come on to ISG and hype up LL to get customers for their rooms?

Which parlour offers the best service. Thats easy, Tulip, Mango and Snow White.

Best selection. Go to Ratchada to the big massage places.

Performing well. Tulip, Mango, Snow White. Say no more.

I would be very suspect of information given "in the flesh" and not given on the forum. Perhaps they are trying to get you to go to certain places as they get kick backs from mamasan and the owner?

Yet more "marketing" of LL. Go there and get "secret informaiton"

LOL

Its utter nonsense and of course, perhaps you can see why I have to point out the nonsense otherwise the gang of LL "friends" would have you doing Bangkok only their way, in their "friends" places and probably earning them a few freebies in the process.

LOL

Actually, you can just save money by meeting members there. Many things we do not write on the forum and keep for ourselves, but, when meeting a member in the flesh, we are willing to share that info.

Which Parlor offers the best selection? who is performing well? which place to go for specific things... and also which ladies provide over and above the call of duty (without charging or asking for tips).

If you are on holidays for a few nights, you do not want to "try your luck" too much, you want to know exactly where to go and who to meet so that you maximize your SOGs (unless you fuck 14 times a day like the Rabbit)

[NicFrenchy]

Can you give an example of the specific kind of info given out at LL that would save you wasted time and money?

Actually, you can just save money by meeting members there. Many things we do not write on the forum and keep for ourselves, but, when meeting a member in the flesh, we are willing to share that info.

Which Parlor offers the best selection? who is performing well? which place to go for specific things... and also which ladies provide over and above the call of duty (without charging or asking for tips).

If you are on holidays for a few nights, you do not want to "try your luck" too much, you want to know exactly where to go and who to meet so that you maximize your SOGs (unless you fuck 14 times a day like the Rabbit)

[Wendella]

on my first trip to bkk i stayed at livingstones lodge. this was a perfect hotel for the first timer. the advice i got from the team at the hotel there saved me a lot of wasted time and money. nice ladies in the sports bar as well if you don't want to venture out.

ok so the sports bar is useful for people who don't want to venture out, though why someone would want to travel all the way to bangkok only to stay inside the grounds of their hotel strikes me as pretty odd.

can you give an example of the specific kind of info given out at ll that would save you wasted time and money?

i often see this kind of comment about this place, always in these kinds of general/vague terms, but just wonder what they could be advising that might be considered valuable. it's a bit like advising people how they can best enjoy a rollercoaster.

to me, it seems like if you take a quick stroll in any direction in the sukhumvit area, you're gonna have a hard time avoiding places where action is. and it's not like there's places rep001tered around that are going to prey on newcomers, more like the opposite. i mean, ok, avoid the taxi touts tryign to usher you to massage places... but is that piece of pretty obvious info worth staying a bit far from the action for?

[The Pro]

I am trying to book a room in Bangkok for the first time.

May you tell me where.which part of Bangkok- I have to book my room to be close to action places? Soi 4 may be?

Thanks

Try the "Bangkok Hotels" thread.

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...ead.php?t=1029

Soi 4 or Soi 6 is a good location for newbies.

I would suggest the http://www.dynastygrande.com/ hotel as a good starter place.