Moscow

[AColonizer]

Here masters have reminded: Moscow is good IF you come for business and your company pays almost everything for you, otherwise the city is one of most expensive in the world, with no respect of quality.

Who wants to try Russia for sex, please try other cities first.

[George Peppard]

I am looking for some normal guys that want to join me on my hunting tours. I have been living in Moscow for five years and quite a lot of experience concerning behavior, clubs and places in general.

Unfortunately, most of my buddies returned back to the US or Western Europe and chasing for pussy on my own is only half fun. I am a 28-years old German, but was living in the US for 1.5 years.

Looking forward for birds of a feather.

Peter Schiller

I am in Moscow for the weekend and would love hunting.

Let me know how to contact you.

[Eros74]

...I have been living in Moscow for five years...

A good beginning could be if you will share with us all the gold and precious infos you learned in 5 years in Moscow... not all, it enough some

[Peter Schiller]

I am looking for some normal guys that want to join me on my hunting tours. I have been living in Moscow for five years and quite a lot of experience concerning behavior, clubs and places in general.

Unfortunately, most of my buddies returned back to the US or Western Europe and chasing for pussy on my own is only half fun. I am a 28-years old German, but was living in the US for 1.5 years.

Looking forward for birds of a feather.

Peter Schiller

[Pizdyets]

My recommendation to anyone here is not to visit Fantasys. I check all their girls before making the final selection. The verdict is that they are not that pretty for the most part and those who are act as unfriendly as it gets. Plus, this place is now really overpriced at 4500 rubles/hour.

Sorry you had a bad time. I feel somewhat responsible, but on the other hand, it's not that I gave false info. 90% of the time I go to these salons, I do have a good time. Though I concur with many of your comments:
1) 4500 an hour is very steep. What you're paying for isn't necessarily the girl. It's also the location, the newly remodeled interior, the discretion, the marketing...
2) many of the girls there have been around the block a few (dozen) times. Not all, but many.
3) all of my favorites have left within the past few months: Nastya and Tanya at Fantasy's, Natasha and Masha at Charmel

Here's my critical analysis, for what it's worth:
a) if they only had 3 girls available, then you went at a bad time and should have turned tail then. To compare, there are usually 10 girls waiting when I visit, and at least half are smiling, if not being downright flirtatious
b) follow your initial instincts. If you feel there's no chemistry, then you're almost certainly right. Head for the door or request another girl.
c) though I've seen her a few times, I've never had Oksana. Reviews on her are actually fairly decent, though, and she is genuinely cute. Which leads to my final point:
d) YMMV. Wh0res are human, after all. And just like us, they have good days and bad days. Even a 3 star French restaurant can serve up mediocre food now and then, and with something as subjective and personal as sex, there's no way any establishment can satisfy all desires. Hope you have better luck next time, wherever it may be.

[Doctor_Skank]

went yesterday to up and down: we were maximum 100 people inside...amazingly empty.

i heard through the grapevine they had some sort of legal problem (official reason was not enough fire exits iirc) and that they even shut down for a while, but am not sure.

[Passepartout]

I like B2 because it is always crowded and have a real russian douma. Of course, you can only target the middle-class girl who will be far from being a top model, but there are still doable girls. Once every 3 months, i like to go to this club.

Went yesterday to Up and Down: we were maximum 100 people inside...amazingly empty.

[Aibolit]

Visited B2B. Nice club. Several levels of music. Demokratichni club, where face control is non-existant. As a result, the music is very nice, crowd is nice, BUT no really good-looking ladies. Good place to visit with few friends from work to dance for the very nice music.

I did hear that Soho Rooms is a hot place in town, where glamour-looking Russians are going. Hope to go there next time.

Aibolit.

[Aibolit]

As promised, I'm posting a report about a recently-completed visit to Fantasys. I have made an extensive research of their website and picked 3 names: Oksana, Diana and another one, whose name I now forgot.

Called in, came and saw 3 girls waiting for me in one room. To my surprise (after reading so many positive posts about this establishment), the girls were not in the mood to exhibit even minor attempt to friendliness. I am relatively young, well groomed and good looking. So, I'm certain that their attetude had little to do with me per se.

I picked the least unfriendly Oksana. After disappearin for a while, Oksana came in and squeezed out herself few words that made it plainly clear to me that I won't enjoy the encounter. I'm sadly not aroused by bad attitude, even coming from a good looking young blond. So, I told her, "sorry, Oksana, I don't think we have chemistry here, I'm leaving". At this point, I should have followed my instinct that is almost never betrays me. Yet, I didn't. Scared by the potential of me leaving, Oksana pleaded with me to reconsider, stating that we'll certainly get along etc. Little I knew, as soon as she got the cash, she immediately reverted to her usual lazy/unfriendly attitude.

When I started playing with her body, she declared to me that if I want to make it nice to her - I shouldn't bother, as she "doesn't care". I should just do what I need and not inconvenience her with foreplay. After forcing myself to finish the first time (usually, it comes easy for me, but not with Oksana), we spoke for a little bit. I asked her why her friends were so unfriendly and she told me that Fantasy now employs all old-timers who have their clients and really don't want to exert themselves any more. The irony that this pretty much described her as well did not reach her comprehension. She became somewhat friendlier during the chit-chat but when I proposed to do IT again, she said: "there are 10 minutes left and usually at this time clients are getting ready to leave, not to do it again". The hints of "friendly" quickly disappeared from her face. I realized that she'd just lazy piece of crap and decided to cut my losses and leave. I told her good by and left.

My recommendation to anyone here is not to visit Fantasys. I check all their girls before making the final selection. The verdict is that they are not that pretty for the most part and those who are act as unfriendly as it gets. Plus, this place is now really overpriced at 4500 rubles/hour.

Hope this helps to someone. Aibolit

[Sam80]

Sam80,

не за что...

Where have you been keeping yourself? You've spent time in Moscow and this is your first post?

Well, I've been busy a while and now I free to share my experience with the people from this forum.

[Pizdyets]

So is the new Che groove mostly Russians or expats? IIRC, the most annoying guys there were always the Russians. And us of course.

Hmm... how can I say this and not come across like a complete bigot? Maybe "Swarthy Expats"? Lots of Beautiful Creatures(TM).

[Doctor_Skank]

If you recall... this is the hottie who vanished without a trace, only to reappear dancing on top of the bar in her skivvys with a different hairstyle. That's gotta be an All Time Classic.

Indeed, that was just too awesome. .))))

So is the new Che groove mostly Russians or expats? IIRC, the most annoying guys there were always the Russians. And us of course.

[Pizdyets]

I also agree that the drinks are weak. I was ordering triple whiskys last time there just to get drunk, that gets expensive fast.

Amen to that, bro - paying $10 for a pint of Guinness just seems wrong. Still... it's a bargain compared to other major cities like New York, Tokyo, Paris or London.

No kissing? I never noticed. Last time there I was very much making out with girlfriend, my friends even cheering us on loudly... other couples also doing lots of kissing. Strange that they tried to interrupt you.

I can back that up... 109's girl was dry humping him half the time, and Doc had his tongue down his girl's throat more often than not. If you recall... this is the hottie who vanished without a trace, only to reappear dancing on top of the bar in her skivvys with a different hairstyle. That's gotta be an All Time Classic. In any case, there was all sorts of mauling going on there, and I didn't see anyone from Security or the waitstaff objecting. I'm with Skank... I'm guessing the girls were staff members and their co-workers were just trying to cool you off (and in turn, the girls as well).

As for the expats, it seems to be THE place for local expats and foreign tourists to go now, replacing both Karma Bar and Real McCoy. Again, this is both good and bad. Brings in some girls looking for sexpats, but also increases the competition. If it gets too expat-laden, the club will become a sausage fest.

So far, they seem to be keeping the male:female ratio in check. I'm not sure *how* they're doing it exactly, but whatever it is - it's working. Recent visits to Che, on the other hand, have shown it to be going in the opposite direction in terms of male:female ratio. Last week, even on the dancefloor, there were 3 guys to every "girl" (using that term in the loosest sense given that these women were born while Brezhnev was still heading the country). The only reason I go there any more is for the live music, fajita nachos, and the mojitos, and usually I BYOB (bring my own b!tches).

[Stravinsky]

Sam80,

не за что...

Where have you been keeping yourself? You've spent time in Moscow and this is your first post?

[Sam80]

Dhalgren,

Moscow addresses (and Russian addresses in general) are a whole subject in themselves.

The Russian word? (dohm) means house. It identifies the street address of a building, and yes, the blue enameled signs you see on buildings in Moscow show the? Number.

A large building in Moscow may also have many different entrances. An entrance to a building is called a? (podyezd), and it will also have a number. Typically there is a? (domofone), which is an intercom that you can use to call an apartment from the?. You will either have to enter a code to open the door, or they might buzz the door for you.

Once inside you need to know the? (etazh) floor, and also the? (kvarteera), apartment. Generally speaking, the apartment number has nothing to do with the floor. Apartment 48, could be on the 10th floor.

There is one more variation on Russian addresses: this is the? (corpus). I've been to the erotic-massage. Ru salon at Studentcheskaya before, so I know what the girl is referring to. There is more than one building at that address, so each building is identified by a? Number; 1, 2, 3 etc.

One more little trick about visiting salons in Moscow. Not only do you have to buzz yourself in, but you also have to buzz yourself out. So when you arrive at the podyezd to leave the building, look around for a little button somewhere that you will have to press to open the door.

Please do not post specific info about salons; podyezd and apartment, and certainly not any entry codes. The salons operate out of private apartments so typically they can only accommodate 2 or 3 customers at a time. If too many guys show up, they can't handle the business. If it happens too much, they may be forced to move and that's not good for anyone.

wow, Stravinsky you are an expert for sure! With such a detailed description it; s impossible to miss something! Thanks a lot. Always myself had a pain in the ass in finding addresses in Russia.