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  1. #6321

    Mongering in Ukraine - Gone Downhill

    Quote Originally Posted by Bez Bezarra
    Nothing's easier than claiming to be wildly successful at mongering, when you also conveniently insist that you could never bother with something so boring as a camera, because photography of girls is so uninteresting, and anyone that disagrees with you fucks ugly girls and takes bad photos.

    What a handy coincidence.

    Eventually, the light of truth shines brighter than what a mask of deceit can hide. The lesson here, be extra suspicious when someone argues that proof is over-rated.
    When I posted a similar description of the mongering situation in Ukraine in Feb 2010, I was accused by some forum members of being negative. One post even personally attacked me and told me "to take a good look in the mirror", insinuating that there are plenty of available nice looking girls in Ukraine and that I am simply ugly [the writer never met me and does not know what I look like. Yet felt justified to attack me].

    To get to the heart of it, the situation is such that a new class of super rich men has evolved in the past few years (and poor people have gotten poorer). So the sexy young looking girls hunt these men as boy friends.

    Pure simple. I do not think the reason is more complicated than this.

  2. #6320

    Ever wondered why guys bragging they get the most hot girls also never post a photo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Acolonizer

    What is happening in Kiev?

    I phoned 50 numbers, all are old/ugly.

    Mandarin Club I can`t go in because shoes.

    River Palace girls age increased.

    Stripclub girls were non-beauties.

    Arena disco was empty.

    The prostitutes ask for triple prices.
    Nothing's easier than claiming to be wildly successful at mongering, when you also conveniently insist that you could never bother with something so boring as a camera, because photography of girls is so uninteresting, and anyone that disagrees with you fucks ugly girls and takes bad photos.

    What a handy coincidence.

    Eventually, the light of truth shines brighter than what a mask of deceit can hide. The lesson here, be extra suspicious when someone argues that proof is over-rated.

  3. #6319
    What is happening in Kiev?

    I phoned 50 numbers, 90% agencies and some indipendents, except for the one in my pictures, all the rest are very unprofessional and/or old/ugly.

    I went to Mandarin Club, and I can`t go in because I didn`t wear classic shoes.

    I went to River Palace and girls` average age has increased.

    I went to two famous stripclubs and girls were non-beauties with few quality dancers.

    Yesterday, Arena disco was empty too.

    There are men, on streets, giving prostitutes` cards (because of crisis) but then prostitutes ask for crazy prices (the triple than in Italy)

    Have all beautiful girls understood to go to school instead to be professional prostitutes?

  4. #6318
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon88
    Some guys need the hotels because they have to pay with a credit card for expense reimbursement reasons. Many apartments are cash only.
    I never stay in apartments anywhere not because of the credit card expenses.

    1 I like the atmosphere of a hotel with a lobby and 24 hours bar and room service.

    2 Starting the day solo with a good hot late breakfast buffet to set me up for the rest of the day, Saving money on lunch and snacks.

    3 I always go for a couple hours sessions max, so hotels can take care of change of towels etc if needed.

    4 A hotel with a night club and restaurant on site is the most ideal. You save a lot of money wasted on taxis.

    5. Much easier to get rid of fake and bait and switch girls, by interviewing them first in the lobby.

    Some of my 2 cents on hotel versus apartments, but each to their own prefernces.

  5. #6317
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon88
    Some guys need the hotels because they have to pay with a credit card for expense reimbursement reasons. Many apartments are cash only.
    Even so, most apartments offer official receipts - at least in my experience.
    And they are super-official receipts, because they love to use a seal on everything, stamping every copy like it was a deed to your soul.

    So should not be a problem claiming expenses, even paid in cash, so long as you have a credible receipt. What is lacking is the automatic conversion to your national currency that happens on your credit card.

  6. #6316

    Why don't you try a different measure of success?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernd 30

    I report I was in Kiev 9 days

    I had a girl 19 years was 650 € for 8 days and nights,
    the service not so good so after 4 nights I gave 458 Euros

    Next girl 20 very very nice, 4 hours 800 grivna (73 euro), good service

    The next night was insane, a woman 22, a real wh0re one night in 1700 grivna (156 euro), no limit (sex with condom) she was very good, she comes to me 3 evenings.

    Beginning of May I'm back.

    Kiev's all made clear.

    For me it was a good success Kiev.
    It should never be all clear, if it appears so, you are missing the point. Keeping things foggy means that you leave life open for interesting surprises.

    To each, his own. As they say.

    $1000 paid to 3 wh0res for 8 nights of fucking?

    Good success? We all look at the world, and at mongering, through different sets of eyes. No need to agree, disagree, criticize, there is no right, wrong. If its good, its all good.

    If you keep an open mind, for your May fuck-a-thon, I offer you a recommendation to consider raising your success measuring stick.

    Instead of 3 wh0res over 8 nights, how about 3 wh0res over each 24 hours.

    Think of it as going on a steady daily diet of the four basic food groups, pussy, ass, tits, and beer.

    Just make sure you eat a healthy breakfast, lunch, and dinner, every day. But only wh0re is on the menu.

    To break up the monotony so you don't get bored with this, occasionally you can skip a meal, or combine 2 wh0res together, you can call that brunch. Nothing beats a wh0re sandwich, with you in the middle.

    I'm sure they won't mind.

    Bon appetit!

    And come back to report next time, about 20 wh0res in your same 9 days Kiev time. But please remember your camera. Every photo tells a story.

  7. #6315
    Quote Originally Posted by Uke Boy
    Unless you absolutely have to, don't stay in a hotel. Find a private apartment and then no problems. Go to RP or have them come to you when searching Mamba or top-models or other sites. Plus there are no doorman bribes nor any other payments, nice and private.

    RTFF for apartment finding advice.

    Some guys need the hotels because they have to pay with a credit card for expense reimbursement reasons. Many apartments are cash only.

  8. #6314

    Pm!

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevie69
    Photos linked to my report
    Please see my PM!

  9. #6313
    Quote Originally Posted by Skoro
    Hello

    I will be in Kiev next week

    Previously I stayed at rus hotel and president hotel.

    I know now all the "working girls" of those 2 hotels. (always the same: =(()

    Can anyone provide me a good choice of an altenative hotel for my next stay?

    Thank you
    Unless you absolutely have to, don't stay in a hotel. Find a private apartment and then no problems. Go to RP or have them come to you when searching Mamba or top-models or other sites. Plus there are no doorman bribes nor any other payments, nice and private.

    RTFF for apartment finding advice.

  10. #6312

    Room service

    Quote Originally Posted by Skoro
    Hello

    I will be in Kiev next week

    Previously I stayed at rus hotel and president hotel.

    I know now all the "working girls" of those 2 hotels. (always the same: =(()

    Can anyone provide me a good choice of an altenative hotel for my next stay?

    Thank you
    Why limit yourself to hotel hookers?
    You can easily pick up a girl at River Palace or order in from an escort.
    Also there are some salons quite close to the President (behind TGIF).
    Or pick up a girl on K street and bring her home.

    Lots of variety in the neighbourhood. No need to be confined to lobby girls.

  11. #6311

    Best hotel hooker

    Hello

    I will be in Kiev next week

    Previously I stayed at rus hotel and president hotel.

    I know now all the "working girls" of those 2 hotels. (always the same: =(()

    Can anyone provide me a good choice of an altenative hotel for my next stay?

    Thank you
    Last edited by Admin; 04-10-10 at 02:15.

  12. #6310
    Quote Originally Posted by Qjump
    41, and drunk or sober..... has a serious chip on his shoulder!
    Even had the joy of being in his house for dinner, she is cute though!

    Of course he has, he's a Northener !

  13. #6309

    Seanie's Travails

    Quote Originally Posted by Qjump
    41, and drunk or sober..... has a serious chip on his shoulder!
    Hard to understand that chip.

    If anybody fell into a toilet and emerged smelling violet, it's him.

    Unless he feels his musical talents have been under-appreciated in the English-speaking world?

    Quote Originally Posted by Qjump
    Even had the joy of being in his house for dinner, she is cute though!
    I'd settle for the mother

  14. #6308
    Quote Originally Posted by Tremayne
    I have met Sean on many occasions and he's quite a nice guy. If he's drunk too much Jack Daniels he can get a little depressed but most off the time he's good company, he is also nowhere near 50 years of age.
    41, and drunk or sober..... has a serious chip on his shoulder!
    Even had the joy of being in his house for dinner, she is cute though!

  15. #6307
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash1001
    I have a feeling Ukrainian girls have some inbuilt affinity for the Northern English accent.. QJump, can you comment?
    You know what, I think its more the attitude, southerners are just too needy towards women! LOL
    Funny, right now spending loads of time in Zurich, and seem to have a collection of Ukrainian "girlfriends" that I have met, who are working there.... but I am not paying more than the odd coffee!
    I would like to put it down to my personality, now you have spoilt it.... its because I am a northerner!

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