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  1. #2839

    It is all about the money, man!

    Check out the article he was talking about.
    http://www.panama-guide.com/article....00606123413370
    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel85
    According to a report on panama-guide.com, it looks like the people in charge of the new joint Moulin Rouge on Via Veneto are the ones behind the clean-up of independents.

    It appears as if they are trying to force a very high price structure on clients and must eliminate as much competition as they can to force people to play their game. Hope the public becomes aware of this and boycotts this place.

    It's a real shame as the action in Panama was diverse, fun and plentiful. Me and my friends would go down every few months and always have a great time. We just got back and without Habanos or Bodegita and the availability of independents it's nowhere near the same. We've decided to go to Colombia or Costa Rica until (if) things get back to normal there.

  2. #2838
    I'll dig around and find out what's the scoop with moulin rouge.

    On the other hand, I do have to say that Habanos has insanely increased their prices. 2 beers and a straight up whiskey $18. I wouldn't pay those prices in the US, let alone in Habanos. Holy shit. Maybe they need to be shut down.

  3. #2837

    A real shame

    According to a report on panama-guide.com, it looks like the people in charge of the new joint Moulin Rouge on Via Veneto are the ones behind the clean-up of independents.

    It appears as if they are trying to force a very high price structure on clients and must eliminate as much competition as they can to force people to play their game. Hope the public becomes aware of this and boycotts this place.

    It's a real shame as the action in Panama was diverse, fun and plentiful. Me and my friends would go down every few months and always have a great time. We just got back and without Habanos or Bodegita and the availability of independents it's nowhere near the same. We've decided to go to Colombia or Costa Rica until (if) things get back to normal there.

  4. #2836
    Just following up on the bodeguita question. The bodeguita VIP, which is the only one remaining, was in fact always there and mostly catered by panamanians for panamanians until the uruguay bodeguita was shut down. The colombianas quickly took over the VIP one and it was a good thing, the "old" bodeguita was quite small and uncomfortable.

    Word on the street is that Habanos will be shut down soon, due to being in the Red/Pink zone and being consdered as a true meat market. They are trying to clean up the gringo areas, so what ever talent will remain will eventually need a new spot. As soon as I have word, I will provide more updates.

    Quote Originally Posted by A Fuegon
    Since my last report on the Marriott, I have been able to slip in a few girls. It's all about circumstance. I won't give out the details of how, mainly because the Marriott was an easy ticket and someone already ruined that. I'm not going to hand someone else a pass to screw up what little is left. I will tell you that security knows damn well who the putas are, so don't think you are getting anything past them.

    La Bodeguita has become my first and commonly last stop each time I'm in PTY. My only problem is that the music is obscenely loud. It's a safe environment, and a mixed bag of goodies. One of my buddies walked out of there with a LePalace chic. Yes, LePalace and for. 8. One of them medically enhanced taple top asses, beautiful face and the colombian treatment. Guys, do not give into the outlandish high rates these girls throw at you, we need to keep them low. I walked out of la bodeguita with a honey for $50 for "2 hours", turned out to be TLN and not more money other than my tip which was her cab fare.

    My understanding is that the "NEW" bodeguita is actually not new, just that the action has moved there since the Meridian Hotel had the old bodeguita tore down. I will confirm with a reliable source and post it just FYI.

  5. #2835
    The stings are the real deal, I was sitting in front of Habanos in a car waiting on a chic for my buddy when "la migra" rained in, in unmarked vehicles at first, an immigration bus following about 5 mins later. By the time the bus got there, they had about 10 girls lined up already. All in all, like 25 girls were taken that night. That was the 2nd to last week in may iirc. I am back in Panama now and my girl tells me that most of those girls are still in immigration, in a holding room of sorts, most of them are getting deported at some point. Some have been released. It's a sad situation she tells me, she went to visit some of them and they are begging to get deported. That means that the quality or quantity of these chics will probably not increase or get any better, sad times in PTY. The panamanians leave much to be desired in terms of looks and service.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joey Smith
    It appears Panama is cracking down on the number of working girls in the country. If they appear to be entering the country for the sole purpose of working at the clubs and Habamos. They are being detained at Tocumen and sent back to their country.

    While at Habamos last nite, the police pulled up to the front and created quite a frenzy among at least 15 of the girls. It was comical as many tried to find a hiding place in the club. The police did not enter. But after talking to the owner and several of the girls. It is becoming somewhat of a regular event. Withing the last two weeks. Close to 50 girls have been detained and sent back to their countries. The quality of woman at Habamos seems to clearly indicate that. While their were several 8s & 9s. Most of the ladies were average.

  6. #2834

    Immigration

    Quote Originally Posted by Lgjg24
    Panama City 5/27. 6/1

    This was my 1st time in Panama. I have been to Rio, AC, Costa Rica, Buenos Aires, and Dubai. It was def not my favorite place but that was due to lack of girls. I was deciding between Medellin and Panama and since it was the presidential election that week in Colombia I decided on Panama.

    Airport mafia taxis is like everywhere else. Finally found one for $20 but he was going to take this side roads so I paid a few dollars more for the toll road which got me to veneto in 25 minutes. I stayed at veneto for $104/night (stay 3 or more nights 30%OFF) I enjoyed the hotel since it had a casino. Felt like "old" las vegas. The talent inside was horrible though. In 5 days I only saw 2-3 hot girls working the casino.

    Out front sometimes you would find a few straglers. There were 2 colombians that I saw several nights in a row working as a team.

    A few doors down at oasis is was disgusting. 2 fat girls and 1 girl that was ok.

    The ambiance and room is really dirty and nasty. The night I arrived the immigration did a roundup and arrested a bunch of girls. My luck.

    There is another place next to oasis that had 2 cute girls. They wanted 120/ hour so I declined. Paid $2 for most my taxis, except when I was with a girl. You just say "dos dollars para habanos" and most said yes.

    Started out at habanos almost every night, usually around 10pm, basically this was the place that saved the trip. Any night except sundays(closed) there would be 10-20 girls standing and sitting outside. 90% colombian and most asking 150/hour(the hot ones) there were some 9's there every night. Quite expensive for an hour. Most were not into TLN as they were wanting to come back and work again to make more $. Pretty hardcore, even though they gave a decent service. Most girls would go with a client and then go to bodequita late night after 1230.

    Bodequita was dead. I went 3 x and every time there was maybe 6-7 girls that were cute. The rest were disgusting (imo.)

    Golden Times was the worst experience of my life. Mechanical blow up doll sex. No kissing, no touching, bang bang, your done get out basically.

    Conclusion:

    Basically the prices and observations are just to give you an idea of whats going on now and the prices they are asking. I did not pay that. I neg good deals every night because I would never pay those prices and if your good at negotiating then you will do fine. I'm into TLN or at least 3-4hours.

    Just like any place it pays to have a drink with them first, see how they are

    If they like you and you vibe well most likely it will reflect on the service they will give you later. I met 3 amazing girls. 1 was a shakira look a like with green eyes and one of the hottest bodies I have ever seen. She was from Cali and was also the sweetest girl I ever sessioned with. Before she did anything she asked me if I would mind! She told me girls from Cali are all like her, very sweet and are looking for a "nice' guy. Opposed to Medellin where the girls are just looking for $. Anyways was interesting to hear her perspective. Total GFE.

    2nd girl was a beautiful girl from Medellin. Again very sweet, passionate, total GFE, 3rd girl was from Mexico, her 1st night working habanos, she was starting a job at one of the strip clubs the next day. Hot little 20 year old spinner, super hot in the bedroom. So my experience in the end was pretty amazing but it took a lot of effort and charm to get, just because the lack of girls have made it really difficult to negotiate. If you didn't want to pay the $ there were 2/3 guys lined up behind you wanting to take her and they knew it. After 5 days I would say I only saw about 20 hot girls working the scene in Panama. Thats nothing, so the girls know it and their prices reflect that. There were so many guys at bodequita just waiting for girls to come. Friday and Saturday were the better nights there.

    Better off going to the source, Medellin /Cali are my next stops.

    I went out to calle Uruguay in search of regular club girls 1 night, its possible if your decent looking and have a wingman, kind of hard by yourself. Went to a club called "the loft" was packed with hot young 18-22 year olds but again unless your with at least 1 other guys chances are slim. I am pretty young and decent looking and spoke to a few girls but most were looking for a relationship you could tell. I also met a few girls online and the same thing. I met up with 2 girls and they both were looking for a gringo boyfriend, serious relationship.

    For the money you spend there is really no reason to go to Panama. Expensive hotels (I got a decent deal for 104 but regular prices at veneto are like 170/night) and expensive women, and they are 90% colombian so why not go to the source and have an unlimited amount of girls and not have to search high and low to find them. The colombians seem to be pretty good GFE not as much as brazilians but pretty close.

    Colombia here I come!
    It appears Panama is cracking down on the number of working girls in the country. If they appear to be entering the country for the sole purpose of working at the clubs and Habamos. They are being detained at Tocumen and sent back to their country.

    While at Habamos last nite, the police pulled up to the front and created quite a frenzy among at least 15 of the girls. It was comical as many tried to find a hiding place in the club. The police did not enter. But after talking to the owner and several of the girls. It is becoming somewhat of a regular event. Withing the last two weeks. Close to 50 girls have been detained and sent back to their countries. The quality of woman at Habamos seems to clearly indicate that. While their were several 8s & 9s. Most of the ladies were average.

  7. #2833

    Simple solution

    Start playing the slots and you will be approached and chatted up. Not fully professional? Is there such a thing there? Hang out at hotel bars and you will have to chase them away. Happy hunting


    Quote Originally Posted by Strapping Lad
    I just joined and did a paid membership. I think it will take 24 hrs to activate. First of all thank you to everyone who took the time to write so many posts on the forum. I have been reading them and find them very helpful. I am heading to PC 6/20-6/27 and will be staying at the Venetto. Does anyone have any recommendations or advice for a new traveler? I am in my 30's and most interested in meeting girls that are not fully professional. Also, if someone else will be in town then and wants to meet for a drink or just say hello I always like to meet new friends.

    Thanks,

    SL

  8. #2832

    Going to PC for the First Time - Advice Appreciated

    I just joined and did a paid membership. I think it will take 24 hrs to activate. First of all thank you to everyone who took the time to write so many posts on the forum. I have been reading them and find them very helpful. I am heading to PC 6/20-6/27 and will be staying at the Venetto. Does anyone have any recommendations or advice for a new traveler? I am in my 30's and most interested in meeting girls that are not fully professional. Also, if someone else will be in town then and wants to meet for a drink or just say hello I always like to meet new friends.

    Thanks,

    SL

  9. #2831

    Panama City 5/27 - 6/1

    Panama City 5/27. 6/1

    This was my 1st time in Panama. I have been to Rio, AC, Costa Rica, Buenos Aires, and Dubai. It was def not my favorite place but that was due to lack of girls. I was deciding between Medellin and Panama and since it was the presidential election that week in Colombia I decided on Panama.

    Airport mafia taxis is like everywhere else. Finally found one for $20 but he was going to take this side roads so I paid a few dollars more for the toll road which got me to veneto in 25 minutes. I stayed at veneto for $104/night (stay 3 or more nights 30%OFF) I enjoyed the hotel since it had a casino. Felt like "old" las vegas. The talent inside was horrible though. In 5 days I only saw 2-3 hot girls working the casino.

    Out front sometimes you would find a few straglers. There were 2 colombians that I saw several nights in a row working as a team.

    A few doors down at oasis is was disgusting. 2 fat girls and 1 girl that was ok.

    The ambiance and room is really dirty and nasty. The night I arrived the immigration did a roundup and arrested a bunch of girls. My luck.

    There is another place next to oasis that had 2 cute girls. They wanted 120/ hour so I declined. Paid $2 for most my taxis, except when I was with a girl. You just say "dos dollars para habanos" and most said yes.

    Started out at habanos almost every night, usually around 10pm, basically this was the place that saved the trip. Any night except sundays(closed) there would be 10-20 girls standing and sitting outside. 90% colombian and most asking 150/hour(the hot ones) there were some 9's there every night. Quite expensive for an hour. Most were not into TLN as they were wanting to come back and work again to make more $. Pretty hardcore, even though they gave a decent service. Most girls would go with a client and then go to bodequita late night after 1230.

    Bodequita was dead. I went 3 x and every time there was maybe 6-7 girls that were cute. The rest were disgusting (imo.)

    Golden Times was the worst experience of my life. Mechanical blow up doll sex. No kissing, no touching, bang bang, your done get out basically.

    Conclusion:

    Basically the prices and observations are just to give you an idea of whats going on now and the prices they are asking. I did not pay that. I neg good deals every night because I would never pay those prices and if your good at negotiating then you will do fine. I'm into TLN or at least 3-4hours.

    Just like any place it pays to have a drink with them first, see how they are

    If they like you and you vibe well most likely it will reflect on the service they will give you later. I met 3 amazing girls. 1 was a shakira look a like with green eyes and one of the hottest bodies I have ever seen. She was from Cali and was also the sweetest girl I ever sessioned with. Before she did anything she asked me if I would mind! She told me girls from Cali are all like her, very sweet and are looking for a "nice' guy. Opposed to Medellin where the girls are just looking for $. Anyways was interesting to hear her perspective. Total GFE.

    2nd girl was a beautiful girl from Medellin. Again very sweet, passionate, total GFE, 3rd girl was from Mexico, her 1st night working habanos, she was starting a job at one of the strip clubs the next day. Hot little 20 year old spinner, super hot in the bedroom. So my experience in the end was pretty amazing but it took a lot of effort and charm to get, just because the lack of girls have made it really difficult to negotiate. If you didn't want to pay the $ there were 2/3 guys lined up behind you wanting to take her and they knew it. After 5 days I would say I only saw about 20 hot girls working the scene in Panama. Thats nothing, so the girls know it and their prices reflect that. There were so many guys at bodequita just waiting for girls to come. Friday and Saturday were the better nights there.

    Better off going to the source, Medellin /Cali are my next stops.

    I went out to calle Uruguay in search of regular club girls 1 night, its possible if your decent looking and have a wingman, kind of hard by yourself. Went to a club called "the loft" was packed with hot young 18-22 year olds but again unless your with at least 1 other guys chances are slim. I am pretty young and decent looking and spoke to a few girls but most were looking for a relationship you could tell. I also met a few girls online and the same thing. I met up with 2 girls and they both were looking for a gringo boyfriend, serious relationship.

    For the money you spend there is really no reason to go to Panama. Expensive hotels (I got a decent deal for 104 but regular prices at veneto are like 170/night) and expensive women, and they are 90% colombian so why not go to the source and have an unlimited amount of girls and not have to search high and low to find them. The colombians seem to be pretty good GFE not as much as brazilians but pretty close.

    Colombia here I come!

  10. #2830

    Panama City 5/27 - 6/1

    Panama City 5/27. 6/1

    This was my 1st time in Panama. I have been to Rio, AC, Costa Rica, Buenos Aires, and Dubai. It was def not my favorite place but that was due to lack of girls. I was deciding between Medellin and Panama and since it was the presidential election that week in Colombia I decided on Panama.

    Airport mafia taxis is like everywhere else. Finally found one for $20 but he was going to take this side roads so I paid a few dollars more for the toll road which got me to veneto in 25 minutes. I stayed at veneto for $104/night (stay 3 or more nights 30%OFF) I enjoyed the hotel since it had a casino. Felt like "old" las vegas. The talent inside was horrible though. In 5 days I only saw 2-3 hot girls working the casino.

    Out front sometimes you would find a few straglers. There were 2 colombians that I saw several nights in a row working as a team.

    A few doors down at oasis is was disgusting. 2 fat girls and 1 girl that was ok.

    The ambiance and room is really dirty and nasty. The night I arrived the immigration did a roundup and arrested a bunch of girls. My luck.

    There is another place next to oasis that had 2 cute girls. They wanted 120/ hour so I declined. Paid $2 for most my taxis, except when I was with a girl. You just say "dos dollars para habanos" and most said yes.

    Started out at habanos almost every night, usually around 10pm, basically this was the place that saved the trip. Any night except sundays(closed) there would be 10-20 girls standing and sitting outside. 90% colombian and most asking 150/hour(the hot ones) there were some 9's there every night. Quite expensive for an hour. Most were not into TLN as they were wanting to come back and work again to make more $. Pretty hardcore, even though they gave a decent service. Most girls would go with a client and then go to bodequita late night after 1230.

    Bodequita was dead. I went 3 x and every time there was maybe 6-7 girls that were cute. The rest were disgusting (imo.)

    Golden Times was the worst experience of my life. Mechanical blow up doll sex. No kissing, no touching, bang bang, your done get out basically.

    Conclusion:

    Basically the prices and observations are just to give you an idea of whats going on now and the prices they are asking. I did not pay that. I neg good deals every night because I would never pay those prices and if your good at negotiating then you will do fine. I'm into TLN or at least 3-4hours.

    Just like any place it pays to have a drink with them first, see how they are

    If they like you and you vibe well most likely it will reflect on the service they will give you later. I met 3 amazing girls. 1 was a shakira look a like with green eyes and one of the hottest bodies I have ever seen. She was from Cali and was also the sweetest girl I ever sessioned with. Before she did anything she asked me if I would mind! She told me girls from Cali are all like her, very sweet and are looking for a "nice' guy. Opposed to Medellin where the girls are just looking for $. Anyways was interesting to hear her perspective. Total GFE.

    2nd girl was a beautiful girl from Medellin. Again very sweet, passionate, total GFE, 3rd girl was from Mexico, her 1st night working habanos, she was starting a job at one of the strip clubs the next day. Hot little 20 year old spinner, super hot in the bedroom. So my experience in the end was pretty amazing but it took a lot of effort and charm to get, just because the lack of girls have made it really difficult to negotiate. If you didn't want to pay the $ there were 2/3 guys lined up behind you wanting to take her and they knew it. After 5 days I would say I only saw about 20 hot girls working the scene in Panama. Thats nothing, so the girls know it and their prices reflect that. There were so many guys at bodequita just waiting for girls to come. Friday and Saturday were the better nights there.

    Better off going to the source, Medellin /Cali are my next stops.

    I went out to calle Uruguay in search of regular club girls 1 night, its possible if your decent looking and have a wingman, kind of hard by yourself. Went to a club called "the loft" was packed with hot young 18-22 year olds but again unless your with at least 1 other guys chances are slim. I am pretty young and decent looking and spoke to a few girls but most were looking for a relationship you could tell. I also met a few girls online and the same thing. I met up with 2 girls and they both were looking for a gringo boyfriend, serious relationship.

    For the money you spend there is really no reason to go to Panama. Expensive hotels (I got a decent deal for 104 but regular prices at veneto are like 170/night) and expensive women, and they are 90% colombian so why not go to the source and have an unlimited amount of girls and not have to search high and low to find them. The colombians seem to be pretty good GFE not as much as brazilians but pretty close. Colombia here I come!

  11. #2829
    Quote Originally Posted by Sato San
    No Buddy not good friday next thursday its a catholic observance.
    well there is no Corpus Christi holiday in Panama, at least in the capital. There is one festivity, but just local to la Villa de Los Santos, in the provinces. It's not something that paralyzes the country.
    Cant give you too much details about it, just that is very folkloric, many regional dances, regional costumes and the like

  12. #2828

    Corpus Christi

    No Buddy not good friday next thursday its a catholic observance.

  13. #2827
    Quote Originally Posted by Sato San
    Can anyone please tell me what happens in Panama during the Corpus christi holiday. Are the mongering places closed, are the girls not available? Is it worth being in Panama city that week?
    Corpus Christi? you mean Good Friday?? if its Good Friday, everything is closed until 12am saturday, Prohibition type law is in effect, but I believe those with a proper check in an hotel, can get alcohol in the premises only. Also, no happy music is allowed to be played but unsure about inside hotels.

    Your best bet is setup with your provider(if you have one) and head for the beaches, but you need to make reservations way in advance.

  14. #2826

    Corpus Christi

    Can anyone please tell me what happens in Panama during the Corpus christi holiday. Are the mongering places closed, are the girls not available? Is it worth being in Panama city that week?

  15. #2825
    Quote Originally Posted by Jc Pauli
    They Like To Hang Out With Gringos.

    ======================================

    Hi Jc Pauli,

    I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

    Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!

    It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

    On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!
    Way to contact? hang out? digits? pm please?
    Last edited by Admin; 05-29-10 at 01:09.

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