Manila

[Wild Rover]

With all due respect Wild Rover, Mayor Lim has a reputation as being "clean" and not on the take. If it was as simple as that then LAC would still be open along with all the other bars that he has closed down around Malate and Ermita.

He is actually more of a moral crusader which presents more of a problem for the future of some of these places.

A pinoy mayor and his cronies with morals? Thats a laugh, a crusader that is well known to have taken bribes in the past, Lac being closed down is not about morals, its about money like everything in Philippines, Wild Rover.

[Red Kilt]

I reckon that the hoteliers in the Ermita area must be cursing Lim and his cronies. They do, after all, make most of their income from SMART's (Single,Male, Affluent and Randy Tourists) and so I guess that their room occupancy and future bookings will have taken a severe hit. After all, why would anyone otherwise willingly elect to stay in such a grotty dump as Ermita if not for LA Cafe and similar venues. .......

You might be surprised CS. Sex tourists are not major spenders in the area.
There are lots of tour groups that use many of the hotels around that area for the one night transit between Manila and elsewhere. A friend of mine in the travel industry from Davao says they use those Malate hotels a lot because they are relatively cheap and are closer to airport than the Makati ones.

[Cunning Stunt]

I reckon that the hoteliers in the Ermita area must be cursing Lim and his cronies. They do, after all, make most of their income from SMART's (Single,Male, Affluent and Randy Tourists) and so I guess that their room occupancy and future bookings will have taken a severe hit. After all, why would anyone otherwise willingly elect to stay in such a grotty dump as Ermita if not for LA Cafe and similar venues. If Lim really goes into crusade overdrive and shuts down other places, I visualize Ermita's tourist numbers really will nosedive. Pity all them poor, out of work wh@res, beggars, muggers, scammers, pimps and all the other assorted dross that give the area such colour and character:D.

I wonder if LA Cafe will be having a fire sale? Would love to get my hands on a memento of the place, particularly one of those nicotine coloured statuettes that lined the downstairs bar. The Laurel and Hardy was a particular favourite.

[FreebieFan]

First impression on Wild Orchid: not so nice, especially for the cost. Room isn't that good, smells kind of funny,

Figure the hotel runs at 75% occupancy, that means the room you are in is occupied 273 nights a year.
Figure thats its 5 years since the last renovation. Thats 1,367 nights.

Figure that on the occupied nights every occupant has at least one partner, maybe 2.

Gets close to 1500 women have been in that room. And you think it only smells " funny". lol.

[Red Kilt]

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Malate will never be the same again now that Lim has closed LA CAFE, its obvious the owners did not increase the bribe to the old hyprocrite......

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With all due respect Wild Rover, Mayor Lim has a reputation as being "clean" and not on the take. If it was as simple as that then LAC would still be open along with all the other bars that he has closed down around Malate and Ermita.
He is actually more of a moral crusader which presents more of a problem for the future of some of these places.

[CollegeMan83]

Collegeman you should have paid them. Keep in mind you are at a place where only freelancers go. The women fought to get in bed with you. They both had sex with you. So they kept up their end of the deal?

Yeah, you are right, I know I screwed that up. Live and learn, I hope. I feel bad about it but I guess it's too late now.

Had a crazy time last night in Angeles, thanks for the tip to head to Lost in Asia, started up there at about 3PM and had a lot of fun by the time I finally made it back (not alone of course) to Pacific Breeze about 2:30AM. Spent a few hours after Perimeter bars closed at R&B, a local music place, was entertaining live music but very very loud, ouch. Will post more later, I just made it to Subic and need to sleep before I start wandering around here tonight.

First impression on Wild Orchid: not so nice, especially for the cost. Room isn't that good, smells kind of funny, just looks old, which is surprising, because I thought this was a pretty new resort. At least there's more to this place than just a hotel room, but I'm too tired to go look right now. Maybe I'll try a different room tomorrow.

Yeah I know us young guys try to act like we're "all that" in bed sometimes but damn these filipina ladies are more than I can handle, haha.

[Econo Tech]

Collegeman you should have paid them. Keep in mind you are at a place where only freelancers go. The women fought to get in bed with you. They both had sex with you...so they kept up their end of the deal?

Most Filipinas are to shy/proud to ever ask you for money so you have to be tactful about it and just put the money in their purse or their pocket. Dont make a big show of it, just fold it and slide it discreetly out of view without mentioning. But do it with them watching in full view so they know you have done it. They will think you are the most sophisticated gentleman in the world.

I too support that you should have palmed some money off, atleast 3,000 each - to make them happier, and let them get some new jeans or whatever ..

As for those girls who never ask for money, like those in bars, I don't put a 'market rate' I just slip in atleast 3,000 or more, if I have more cash. After all, wouldn't a regular ***** end up wiping that much off ?

if you do keep in touch with the girls, I would suggest you surprise them with some internet delivery of some gift vouchers - as I did to some girls when I honestly ran out of money - go to pldtonline website - you can order shopping voucher - each worth 1000 peso (I normally order atleast 3 X 1000 peso) - and get it home delivered to her, so she can use it and not feel obligated, as it is not cash that exchanged hands. I prefer the SM vouchers, which are more like - pre-paid cards, and they can used for multiple purchases. That way you don't feel bad, and the girls dont feel offended ..

[Tbm Fan]

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquire...ng-sex-workers

Lim will keep it closed down i would bet. everything i hear about him is the demise for any good hunting. but of course it just goes further underground

Closed permanently now. First went to Rosie's Diner back in 1990 and before the first round of Lim. Well the guy has got to do something to keep the press and the public from finding out about his dark side when it comes to being buddy buddy with organized crime and hits.

[Devils 1]

No money changes hands, I'm kind of worried about insulting them, and I probably spent about 1500p on food and drinks the night before anyway.

Collegeman you should have paid them. Keep in mind you are at a place where only freelancers go. The women fought to get in bed with you. They both had sex with you...so they kept up their end of the deal?

Most Filipinas are to shy/proud to ever ask you for money so you have to be tactful about it and just put the money in their purse or their pocket. Dont make a big show of it, just fold it and slide it discreetly out of view without mentioning. But do it with them watching in full view so they know you have done it. They will think you are the most sophisticated gentleman in the world.

[Wild Rover]

Greetings all,

I will be in Quezon city wed next jun 30 for a few days, if any fellow mongers are there, I would appreciate some company,

Malate will never be the same again now that Lim has closed LA CAFE, its obvious the owners did not increase the bribe to the old hyprocrite.

Does anybody know of decent hotel in Quezon Ave, approx $50 per night and convenient for the street walkers, please pm me if anyone has cell number to exchange for any 3holer sex machine in QC, thanks in advance,

Wild rover.

[Denom]

wow!
i was there last week monday. glad i got to see the place. the official reports are obviously full of crap, didn't see any sign of forced labour or ****d there when i visited. quite the opposite...

hahaha - exactly!

[Denom]

Had a funny incident with HSBC in Shanghai. I went to close my account but they needed to see my passport, driving licence, fill in a long form etc. Too much admin so instead I withdrew almost all contents and left RMB1 in the account.

Every month some sweet young lady calls me and asks me if I could please close my acccount. This has been going on for past 5 years.

Typical of HSBC. You did the right thing :)

[Econo Tech]

Here's where it got weird: One of the girls in the group takes me aside and starts lecturing me about how I don't know what I'm getting into, and I'll be sorry if I take any of these girls back home, and that I "don't know who she is" and she straight up tells me she wants me to leave right now so that there isn't any trouble. I'm moderately drunk at this point, but not stupid, so being my first time here I think WTF but I decide I'll listen to her. Two of the girls (24yo and 27yo) are all over me but I try and excuse myself and walk out towards the taxi area out front. I hear them all yelling at me to come back but I keep walking. I make it to the taxi area and there's a security guard there that looks a little bewildered by the scene that ensues, me trying to get in a taxi, two girls grabbing either arm trying to stop me from getting in the taxi, two other girls standing and watching, and the fifth (*****) girl keeps yelling at me to leave and saying she knows all the security guards and it's better if I get out of here. This is just bizarre. I get in the taxi finally and head to Burgos street.

Been there, seen that. The girl who was making noise may have felt intimidated or wanted to just show off. Especially when the girls say "you don't know who I am" I just tell them that I don't want to know who she is other than she is a woman looking for trouble and picking on innocent foreigners.!

Once we get back to the hotel I can tell that this is new to all three of us. I make out with the 24yo while the 27yo goes and grabs a shower, by the time she comes out her friend has my entire dick in her mouth and she just stands there as she comes out of the bathroom looking kind of shocked.

[/QUOTE]You must have had a whale of a time.

BTW, as for the other member's question on Astor, it is nicely located, walking distance to P Burgos, and while some rooms are clearly old looking, some smell brand new. I think they have been doing some renovation.

And the good thing is. The breakfast is excellent, and with a mercury drug store next door, and 7-11 across the road, not much is missed.

One more thing. You can strike deals with the hotel taxi, so for 600 to 1000 peso per day, the driver will be more than happy to meet you away from the hotel. As they have some contractual agreement. And tour you around, and the taxi drivers there outside Astor are not out for money, so they will not make it a point to drag you to bars where they get a cut. More like a personal chauffer.

Try it out.

BTW, Best Western rates varied between 90 S$ to 120 S$ when I checked in, checked out and checkde in a few days later. Never bothered to find out the price difference, though the 120 S$ room was smaller but looked fresher and higher floor.

[MauiDude]

First impressions of Angeles are that it's not my kind of thing, I feel a little out of place being a younger dude without anyone to hang with. Anyone in Angeles feel like showing a new guy the ropes Wednesday night?[/QUOTE]sounds like a great adventure in manila. I will have to try that. There are a lot of crazy girls here.

But actually Angeles is my favorite place.

I am in angeles thrusday night and go subic Friday?

Can show you around or just bar hop with you. Lots of girls here like the younger guys. Some yes like older guys like me. I am older but have about ten

Steady girls and of course bar hop for new talent and new adventures.

People here are very nice

Send inbox or what ever. I know a few very hot girls that want to meet younger guys.

[CollegeMan83]

Whats your opinion of Astor? Im booked for August but info is hard to find....

I liked the Astor. Internet was free and worked pretty well (I was on the 18th floor in an executive (read: basic) room. Didn't check out the pool, but the lobby was nice and had some breakfast down there (not free) before I left in the morning. Service was good, everybody was friendly. Only downside was no matter how hard I tried I couldn't get the shower to be very hot, it was lukewarm at best. I also ended up in a room with two single beds instead of one king bed, a little grunt work and I moved them both together so not a big deal really. I can't remember what I specified when I reserved the room (through Agoda.com). For the price (I think about $60US), I recommend it, as the location was very good (3 min walk to Burgos, 20-30 min walk to Greenbelt).

Robbaf: Thanks for the advice. I'll go down to Lost In Asia this afternoon. I've got a map bookmarked here on the laptop here somewhere. I'm only in Angeles until Friday, then I am spending the rest of my time in Subic until I fly back out next Tuesday night from Manila.