Monterrey

[MonterreyDude]

Guys, check Youtube.

Key words, Alex - Monterrey.

You'll see how the city fared.

Hello Tooold28,

I take back everything I said in speculating about you, and about your brother in law, Cuañado1259. I meant no disrespect, and I apologize.

By they way, see above, notice I am using the proper ñ now thanks to Bbond and Dickhead :-).

But, for some reason it's duplicating the "ñ" like this every time: ñn , and I have to go back and erase the English "n." I'll have to experiment more with it, unless someone knows what I might be doing wrong. I've tried it a number of times using the ALT + 164, and it always comes up this way.

Based on the content and sincerity of your post Toold28, I can see you are a stand-up guy. I hope you're doing better these days with respect to the health issues. I would feel privileged to join you if you make it down to Monterrey, as well as the rest of the NL guys.

[Member #3453]

Hello Tooold28,

I take back everything I said in speculating about you, and about your brother in law, Cuañado1259. I meant no disrespect, and I apologize.

By they way, see above, notice I am using the proper ñ now thanks to Bbond and Dickhead :-).

But, for some reason it's duplicating the "ñ" like this every time: ñn , and I have to go back and erase the English "n." I'll have to experiment more with it, unless someone knows what I might be doing wrong. I've tried it a number of times using the ALT + 164, and it always comes up this way.

Based on the content and sincerity of your post Toold28, I can see you are a stand-up guy. I hope you're doing better these days with respect to the health issues. I would feel privileged to join you if you make it down to Monterrey, as well as the rest of the NL guys.

No Monterreydude, I do not hate you. I cheated death with 2 strokes in 3 months a few years back, I no longer know hatred. We may have had our differences but I certainly do not hate you. In fact I put you in the top 8 of the most respected members of the 2 forums I check daily. One day I will make it back to Monterrey and you can show me your Monterrey not what has been shown to me.

Someone else said that I must not be American. Well I was born and lived all my life in Texas.

Cuñado1259 was my brother-in-law. Monterrey is a wonderful city. Almost all of my trips to Monterrey were with or to meet with Cuñado1259. If any of you ever read any post of his, you would know that he could be hard to get along with. To him, money was the answer to everything. So my latest trips there were not always enjoyable. Under different circumstances I could probably enjoy myself. I have not looked for ladies nor even been to a club in Monterrey since 1984. Since then all of the ladies I have met or been with in Monterrey were brought to me by Cuñado1259.

I do read the posts here daily but have nothing pertinant that I could contribute, so I continue to lurk.

Like Bbond I made my first trips to Mexico to the border towns in 1968 and continue to do so. I prefer Nuevo Laredo to all cities I have visited over the years. Nothing really special, just my personal get away spot.

[Member #3453]

The anti-gun activists have their agenda, to represent some guns that have virtually the same outward appearance as Military Weapons, to pass them off as a dangerous category of firearm by calling them "Assault Weapons."

The agenda of the anti-gun movement is to pass off these rifles as essentially the same as fully automatic weapons, when in reality they have virtually the same mechanisms as a hunting rifle, are not automatic weapons, and would be no more effective bullistically than a deer rifle.

The distinction is usually the capacity of the magazine, and not whether they look bad-assed or not. Looks is all that the anti-gun movement focuses on in order to hype their cause to the unsuspecting and uneducated public.

Fully Automatic Weapons are the problem, regardless of their appearance. Fully Automatic Weapons are illegal in the USA unless licensed by ATF. You must have a thorough back ground investigation by the Feds, and you must pay a heavy licensing fee to even own one. Believe me, the fully Automatic Rifles are not coming from law abiding citizens or gun dealers licensed to legally sell them. The Federal Audits are regular and often, and the penalties are severe for the slightest, even minor infraction.

The fully automatic weapons, and the modified legal Assault Weapons, are coming from underworld sources, other countries, etc...and US gun laws are not to blame with respect to Mexico's armed cartel problem.

Fact is, law abiding Mexicans should have the means to protect their own lives. As it is now, they are lambs to the slaughter, brought on by a government that can not even repel the advances of the drug cartels with any meaningful success, not even with their own military class sophisticated weaponry. Had the Mexican army had the capability, this issue with the cartels would have been long over and done with.

Monterreydude...you want to borrow a couple of FA18 Hornets? We can send them down to visit the compounds of the cartels in Mexico, blow up their convoys, wipe them off the face of the earth. Let's teach them a little lesson about what real fire power is. We need to send them a message that they are pissing us off, and we are tired of the BS, and of their terrible treatment of the good people of Mexico.

Well in a way, when people die, a shooting IS a shooting.
And assault weapons ARE used. Not as openly as in Mexico, but gangs use them as the narcs used them here and in the same violent way.
It's just that sometimes the media conveniently forgets to mention that cause they don't want to get in trouble with the NRA.

But it is a fact that assault weopons are used. Simply put they are not as visible or used in an open way as in Mexico.

Example:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BALR1E3LHO.DTL

This is The International Association of Chiefs of Police

http://cbs4.com/topstories/police.as....2.405598.html

This is the NRA thru one of their subsidiaries (1997 op/ed).

http://www.davekopel.com/2A/OpEds/Ar..._to_Police.htm

This is the opposing point of view

http://mediamatters.org/research/200506300004


Media examples of shootings using assault weopens are all over the virtual map.
You can Google it up.


PS: Before my virtual and anonymous friend USB intervenes, I like to point out that I agree with him to the fact that weapons used by felons are not in their hands via a legal way.

[Toold28]

USB, I might have my differences with Toold, but he's a respected veteran monger.

I can vouch for him, even if he hates my guts and my DNA.

No Monterreydude, I do not hate you. I cheated death with 2 strokes in 3 months a few years back, I no longer know hatred. We may have had our differences but I certainly do not hate you. In fact I put you in the top 8 of the most respected members of the 2 forums I check daily. One day I will make it back to Monterrey and you can show me your Monterrey not what has been shown to me.

Someone else said that I must not be American. Well I was born and lived all my life in Texas.

Cuñado1259 was my brother-in-law. Monterrey is a wonderful city. Almost all of my trips to Monterrey were with or to meet with Cuñado1259. If any of you ever read any post of his, you would know that he could be hard to get along with. To him, money was the answer to everything. So my latest trips there were not always enjoyable. Under different circumstances I could probably enjoy myself. I have not looked for ladies nor even been to a club in Monterrey since 1984. Since then all of the ladies I have met or been with in Monterrey were brought to me by Cuñado1259.

I do read the posts here daily but have nothing pertinant that I could contribute, so I continue to lurk.

Like Bbond I made my first trips to Mexico to the border towns in 1968 and continue to do so. I prefer Nuevo Laredo to all cities I have visited over the years. Nothing really special, just my personal get away spot.

[MonterreyDude]

Well in a way, when people die, a shooting IS a shooting.
And assault weapons ARE used. Not as openly as in Mexico, but gangs use them as the narcs used them here and in the same violent way.
It's just that sometimes the media conveniently forgets to mention that cause they don't want to get in trouble with the NRA.

But it is a fact that assault weopons are used. Simply put they are not as visible or used in an open way as in Mexico.

Example:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BALR1E3LHO.DTL

This is The International Association of Chiefs of Police

http://cbs4.com/topstories/police.as....2.405598.html

This is the NRA thru one of their subsidiaries (1997 op/ed).

http://www.davekopel.com/2A/OpEds/Ar..._to_Police.htm

This is the opposing point of view

http://mediamatters.org/research/200506300004


Media examples of shootings using assault weopens are all over the virtual map.
You can Google it up.


PS: Before my virtual and anonymous friend USB intervenes, I like to point out that I agree with him to the fact that weapons used by felons are not in their hands via a legal way.

According to http://spotcrime.com/il/chicago, 32 shootings were reported in Chicago in the span of 6/22/2010 thru 6/30/2010.

I agree that being in the wrong place at the wrong time can happen anywhere.
However I believe most shootings in US cities are done with handguns, in Mexico they prefer rapid fire, more potent, long guns where bullets tend to be more widely assimilated.
In the US they seldom, if ever, open fire on an armed police or military convoy, it's commonplace in Mexico.

[Bbond]

Everybody has a numeric keypad whether they know it or not. Even on a laptop with no separate numeric keypad, pressing Num Lock will turn a portion of the keyboard into the numeric keypad. Look for the small little numbers on the keys and the raised bar on the 5.

So you can also get accented characters this way: á is Alt 160 and I forget what else. These are called ASCII codes and you can look 'em up.

From http://www.tedmontgomery.com/tutorial/ALTchrc.html

§To obtain an ALT Character:

1. Make certain that the Num Lock key has been pressed to activate the numeric key section of the keyboard.
2. Depress the Alt key.
3. While the Alt key is depressed, type the proper sequence of numbers (on the numeric keypad) of the ALT code from the table above.
4. Release the Alt key, and the character will appear.
5. On a laptop computer, there usually is no numeric keypad. So, instead, depress the Fn (function) key, then the Alt key, then the numerical code sequence. The numbers are on the fronts of certain keyboard keys: M=0, J=1, K=2, L=3, U=4, I=5, O=6, 7=7, 8=8, and 9=9.

Well that's my 2¢ on that subject ☻.

[Dickhead]

I also know and respect Toold.

And everyone has a ñ on their keyboard, if it has a numeric keypad, whether they know it or not. Just hold the "alt" key and type 164 for ñ or "alt" 165 for Ñ, no Mexican keyboard needed.

Everybody has a numeric keypad whether they know it or not. Even on a laptop with no separate numeric keypad, pressing Num Lock will turn a portion of the keyboard into the numeric keypad. Look for the small little numbers on the keys and the raised bar on the 5.

So you can also get accented characters this way: á is Alt 160 and I forget what else. These are called ASCII codes and you can look 'em up.

[Bbond]

I am criticized for comparing Monterrey to Chicago, or Phoenix, Arizona, for example...but, the environment is similar in the sense that there is relative safety in some areas, and danger in others. The city is so vast, and the absolute huge numbers of people allow you to be relatively lost in a virtual sea of humanity, so much so that I do not feel particularly more vulnerable than during previous times.

According to http://spotcrime.com/il/chicago, 32 shootings were reported in Chicago in the span of 6/22/2010 thru 6/30/2010.

I agree that being in the wrong place at the wrong time can happen anywhere.
However I believe most shootings in US cities are done with handguns, in Mexico they prefer rapid fire, more potent, long guns where bullets tend to be more widely assimilated.
In the US they seldom, if ever, open fire on an armed police or military convoy, it's commonplace in Mexico.

[Member #3453]

Well, one can not argue with isolated incidents. I have never heard a gun shot go off here, and I am very familiar with what gun shots sound like. Perhaps I am just good at being in the right places at the right times.

Certainly, there is no disputing that the drug cartels are making a mess of Mexico and the US.

I am criticized for comparing Monterrey to Chicago, or Phoenix, Arizona, for example...but, the environment is similar in the sense that there is relative safety in some areas, and danger in others. The city is so vast, and the absolute huge numbers of people allow you to be relatively lost in a virtual sea of humanity, so much so that I do not feel particularly more vulnerable than during previous times.

That doesn't mean the dangers haven't escalated because they have, statistically. But, statistically, the chances of you actually falling victim based on the percentages is still quite low. And, based on my time in the clubs here, I can honestly say that I feel no more vulnerable than before. I do watch more carefully on the streets, and I am using cabs more between destinations, just slightly more. I still walk between the bars at night, but it's not usually as much as I may have done so several years ago. So, I have altered my patterns a bit.

But, I wouldn't go so far as to be overly sensitive to attending the bar scene based on the what I routinely see there. It could change tomorrow, but for now, it's just not that much different than I've seen it for many years.

I cannot speak of or for Familysex or ChesterBoy as I have no idea as to who they may be or where they hail from, but Toold has been around quite some time on other forums and has many many years experience in NL. I have lived in NL for just over 2 years.

Giving away my age, my 1st Mexico monger trip was 1968, to Juarez.

I have only been to Monterrey 6 times and have met Amigomio. I make no comments to the monger scene as I have very limited Monterrey experience.

However, in the total of time I have been in NL, both as a visitor and a resident, I have never heard a gunshot, none. Not to say they don't happen because they do.

In my limited Monterrey visits I have heard gunshots. A car was cut off on Carretera Nacional en El Uro, about 50 feet from where I was standing, driver was shot multiple times. Police were collecting 7.62 x 39 (AK-47) shell casings from the street. People at he job site where I was said it is a daily thing. I do not believe it is as bad as Juarez is right now (303 know dead in June, 1,389 for the 1st 6 months of this year), but, my belief is that Monterrey is a lot more dangerous than NL, at the moment.

And for accented letters, see http://usefulshortcuts.com/downloads/ALT-Codes.pdf.

[Bbond]

Hey thanks for that...I didn't realize that about the keyboard. Let me try it...I'll type something right here: ñññ ÑÑÑ...Very cool...I wish I had that feature on my cell phone for texts. Of course, I have the "ñ" available, but I would like to easily transition between them on my cell.

Well, with respect to Toold, and all the rest of these questionable screen names, all or most of them from the NL forum I assume.

Ok, so now we know that all these guys that have been commenting on here that have only 2 to 6 posts are experienced, respected mongers, probably from the NL forum, and that their mongering venue is Nuevo Laredo. That explains why when they comment, they do so from a generalized perspective with little or no direct knowledge. They do not know Monterrey, and they are not able to specifically comment about it with specifics.

I cannot speak of or for Familysex or ChesterBoy as I have no idea as to who they may be or where they hail from, but Toold has been around quite some time on other forums and has many many years experience in NL. I have lived in NL for just over 2 years.

Giving away my age, my 1st Mexico monger trip was 1968, to Juarez.

I have only been to Monterrey 6 times and have met Amigomio. I make no comments to the monger scene as I have very limited Monterrey experience.

However, in the total of time I have been in NL, both as a visitor and a resident, I have never heard a gunshot, none. Not to say they don't happen because they do.

In my limited Monterrey visits I have heard gunshots. A car was cut off on Carretera Nacional en El Uro, about 50 feet from where I was standing, driver was shot multiple times. Police were collecting 7.62 x 39 (AK-47) shell casings from the street. People at he job site where I was said it is a daily thing. I do not believe it is as bad as Juarez is right now (303 know dead in June, 1,389 for the 1st 6 months of this year), but, my belief is that Monterrey is a lot more dangerous than NL, at the moment.

And for accented letters, see http://www.tedmontgomery.com/tutorial/ALTchrc-a.html or http://usefulshortcuts.com/downloads./ALT-Codes.pdf

[Member #3453]

I also know and respect Toold.

And everyone has a ñ on their keyboard, if it has a numeric keypad, whether they know it or not. Just hold the "alt" key and type 164 for ñ or "alt" 165 for Ñ, no Mexican keyboard needed.

Hey thanks for that...I didn't realize that about the keyboard. Let me try it...I'll type something right here: ñññ ÑÑÑ...Very cool...I wish I had that feature on my cell phone for texts. Of course, I have the "ñ" available, but I would like to easily transition between them on my cell.

Well, with respect to Toold, and all the rest of these questionable screen names, all or most of them from the NL forum I assume...

Ok, so now we know that all these guys that have been commenting on here that have only 2 to 6 posts are experienced, respected mongers, probably from the NL forum, and that their mongering venue is Nuevo Laredo. That explains why when they comment, they do so from a generalized perspective with little or no direct knowledge. They do not know Monterrey, and they are not able to specifically comment about it with specifics...nor should they.

What I really don't get is why the Chicken Little routine with respect to the dangers in Monterrey? If they are all from the NL forum, they know in their hearts that we are legitimate experts on the Monterrey venue, just as I accept your word that they are experience and credible experts in their own venue, and I do.

If we say that the clubs do not exhibit the danger level that they've been saying, because, after all, we are here and experiencing it everyday, then why the BS? I never said things could not escalate, only that things are not as bad as they are portraying them to be in the clubs.

Are the NL mongers giving up their hobby? I doubt it! Because, if we are all honest, we know that it's even more dangerous per capita on the border than it is to be lost in the vast populations of humanity in Monterrey. I can get so lost in Monterrey, so obscure, that the dangers are virtually non-existent. The Monterrey scene is so spread out that you can get totally and completely lost in Monterrey, fading so far into the back ground that you are totally off the radar. That is not the case with respect to the NL scene.

It's become quite apparent now that there's been another agenda all along, and not any particular desire to protect the unsuspecting visitor that might be in Monterrey or considering coming to Monterrey. It's apparent that a taunting of long standing rivals has been the agenda all along, just as I suspected from the beginning.

The dangers just don't rise to such a level here that I am ready to stop going to the clubs. If that is the case in NL, then I would accept their word for it. I would suspect that were I to come over to the NL forum with the intention of stirring things up, the members of the NL forum would be just as defensive as those of us that live in this venue have been concerning the level of rhetoric about the club scene, we knowing that it's just not true.

[Bbond]

USB, I might have my differences with Toold, but he's a respected veteran monger.
I can vouch for him.

I also know and respect Toold.

And everyone has a ñ on their keyboard, if it has a numeric keypad, whether they know it or not. Just hold the "alt" key and type 164 for ñ or "alt" 165 for Ñ, no Mexican keyboard needed.

[MonterreyDude]

USB, I might have my differences with Toold, but he's a respected veteran monger.
I can vouch for him, even if he hates my guts and my DNA.

Since you know, or knew, as it were, this Cunado dude, you are obviously not an American. And, because your "n" is of the Mexican keyboard, you are obviously a plant as well. Are you all "plants," or are you all one in the same plant? Just Curious...you all have such few posts, and all of you coming out of the wood work at the same time is kind of suspicious, verdad?

I kinda like you guys though...You guys don't fool me. You're about as afraid of Mexico as Emilio Zappata. Maybe we should meet at El Infinito so we can further a friendly debate, and so we'll be under the protection of the cartels so we'll be able to party safely. :-)

[Member #3453]

Since you know, or knew, as it were, this Cunado dude, you are obviously not an American. And, because your "n" is of the Mexican keyboard, you are obviously a plant as well. Are you all "plants," or are you all one in the same plant? Just Curious...you all have such few posts, and all of you coming out of the wood work at the same time is kind of suspicious, verdad?

I kinda like you guys though...You guys don't fool me. You're about as afraid of Mexico as Emilio Zappata. Maybe we should meet at El Infinito so we can further a friendly debate, and so we'll be under the protection of the cartels so we'll be able to party safely. :-)

No not him.

Cuñado1259 was murdered in Mendoza Argentina on June 12, 2010.

[Member #3453]

Listen, I'm not afraid. I'm giving skiing lessons down at the tunnel entrance right now.

A little water???
As of 7 pm central time the Santa Catarina river has overflown into both avenues on the sides of the river.

http://www.multimedios.tv/envivo

See video... ugly stuff.