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[Akibono]

Not necessarily so, Aki.

The CDP that I posted below will usually get you an unlimited mileage deal and a good daily, weekly or weekend rate.

Cheers,

Dedalus

thanks, I give them a try on my nest trip when the airfares are reasonable again.

[Dedalus]

All the rental car have raised their rates. Hertz only gives you the cheapest rates if you prepay, and have mileage limits on other rentals.

Not necessarily so, Aki.

The CDP that I posted below will usually get you an unlimited mileage deal and a good daily, weekly or weekend rate.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[Breadman]

Yes, Sixti has raised their rates to about 40E/day with a reduced rate for the weekend. They have, however, raised the km limit to 200/day from 100. One thing I have notice is that sometimes a 3 day rental is cheaper than a 2 day rental. Go figure. All the rental car have raised their rates. Hertz only gives you the cheapest rates if you prepay, and have mileage limits on other rentals.

Using the sixte website for a trip in November, I was quoted 322 euro's for a 10 day trip. Using Orbitz i was quoted 272 euro's from sixte for an economy car on those same dates.

For a couple more euro's, I think you can just buy one of those smart cars...maybe pack on in your carry-on to save some money.

[Akibono]

Yesterday, I had a quote from sixti. I had an offer for 60 Euro/day for a smart car in a weekday, for Frankfurt am airport.

Then, I had tried the same quote for weekend and the offer was 40 Euro/day.

It seems, they also follow the footprints of Hertz. Last year, I was paying 23 Euro/day at Frankfurt. 60 Euro for a smart car is way expensive...

Yes, Sixti has raised their rates to about 40E/day with a reduced rate for the weekend. They have, however, raised the km limit to 200/day from 100. One thing I have notice is that sometimes a 3 day rental is cheaper than a 2 day rental. Go figure. All the rental car have raised their rates. Hertz only gives you the cheapest rates if you prepay, and have mileage limits on other rentals.

[Regnad]

I recently paid €20 per day for a Smartcar for a 5 day trip. Traveled in late June, booked in April. Funny thing is, I'd forgotten the reservation and went to the website in early June and got a €40 per day price.

My guess is that their website has a built in formula that adjusts their prices based on demand, much like the ability of airmiles flights.

I'm considering an early September trip, but won't have enough airmiles until my credit card statement closes later this week. I checked availability a few weeks back and found available flight shrinking rapidly. I checked again yesterday to find that I could find a direct flight from Montreal to Frankfurt almost any day I want. Go figure.

Yesterday, I had a quote from sixti. I had an offer for 60 Euro/day for a smart car in a weekday, for Frankfurt am airport.

Then, I had tried the same quote for weekend and the offer was 40 Euro/day.

It seems, they also follow the footprints of Hertz. Last year, I was paying 23 Euro/day at Frankfurt. 60 Euro for a smart car is way expensive...

[Creature2]

Yesterday, I had a quote from sixti. I had an offer for 60 Euro/day for a smart car in a weekday, for Frankfurt am airport.

Then, I had tried the same quote for weekend and the offer was 40 Euro/day.

It seems, they also follow the footprints of Hertz. Last year, I was paying 23 Euro/day at Frankfurt. 60 Euro for a smart car is way expensive...

[Pumba K]

Hey guys,

I have been here a couple of times, just decided to make an account and finally join the gang!

Anyway, I have been to Red Rose in Hanau, quite a nice place, with a reasonable price of around 80 euro for 45 minutes where you get everything you want.

At first the main woman "Cindy", took me in, sat me down, and told me before discussing the prices (I still did not know at the time), she will show me the girls, then she tells me the prices and I choose. There were 4 girls, including Cindy herself (a very old rotten thing.)

One of the girl was called Mina, I felt something when I saw her. I have to have that ass! Anyway, I was told about the price, tried to argue, but it took me no where. So I gave in, chose Mina and went to the room with her.

They actually offered me something to drink first, with a couple of chocolate treats. Which is a very nice idea indeed. Mina came afterwards, she told me that I have to pay her up front (which I don't usually do, but after reading the advice on doing so, it was done), and I paid her an extra 10 euro, and made it clear that it's for her, not for her boss. She was glad and gave me a french kiss right away. Quite friendly so far.

We started messing around, kissing, foreplay stuff. She gave me a great BJ, we 69ed, she tasted quite good which shocked me. We kept going at it, with Cowboy / Missionary with french kissing, licking each other, neck sucking. For almost 40 minutes, I looked at the time from behind her, and noticed that I should make myself finish ASAP. She looked as well, but she was actually so hot and taken by things, that she didn't mention a thing and just went on (not even a "oh you didn't finish yet? Are you sure? ")

Long story short, the whole thing laster over an hour, we kissed a bit afterwards and talked, I was getting dressed and her boss came in to ask her to leave already! (but not in a mean way towards me). I was asked how I felt about this experience, I answered with honesty that it was great!.

That was around 2 months ago.

Last month I went to Atlantik, had around 4 girls. None of them was Mina. I mean ok great we had the 69, the passion somehow. But it missed this special taste that Mina left behind.

I remember clearly Mina telling me she was going to stay for 5 more months with them (as per her contract), then leaving them to go somewhere else (why would she lie?), so I checked the website where I found her. No sign of her. I checked the website of Red Rose. They replaced her with a "Mara". Which does not look inviting at all.

I sent them an email, asking about Mina, they actually replied, telling me she doesn't work with them anymore. So I replied asking if I may find out where she is. And that I am willing to pay for this info, I got a "sorry, but that's all the info we can give".

I am going crazy googling and trying to find her. Did anyone here hear of her?

Any ideas of how I can find where she is working now?

The questions go in circle, but the idea is the same.

Oh and P. S: does anyone have any good place to in Hanau for a good price? (lower than what I paid or equal, but really good service?)

[Basketcase]

Making a trip to frankfurt from July 6 - 10. Which FKK clubs would be the best place to find Latina (Dominican/Brazilian) or African Ladies with big asses (like in the attached pics)?

Suggestions would be much appreciated?

There are Dominican and Brazilian hookers in maybe Palace but I would not class them as having big asses.

I think you may have better luck in the red light district near the Main Train Station in Frankfurt am Main for Brazilians and Dominican hookers with big asses.

[Nna Joe]

Making a trip to frankfurt from July 6 - 10. Which FKK clubs would be the best place to find Latina (Dominican/Brazilian) or African Ladies with big asses (like in the attached pics)?

Suggestions would be much appreciated?

Thanks,

Joe

[Basketcase]

Here is a rough itinerary for this group. You can follow our public itinerary and will see the differences implemented for this group:
Day 1: enroute to Zurich
Day 2: Zurich/Lucern/Bernese Oberland
Day 3: Bern/Emmental Valley
Day 4: Bemese Oberland
Day 5: Constance/Mainau
Day 6: Black ForestllHeidelberg
Day 7: Heidelberg
Day 8: Rothenburg/Franconia
Day 9: NurnberglTyrol
Day 10: Rattenbergllnnsbruck
Day 11: Salzburg
Day 12: Neuschwanstein Castle
Day 13: Berchtesgaden/Eagles Nest
Day 14: Departure

Bud Leeeeeeee Sir,

If you are in Zurich I would recommend Globe. It can be easily reached by train from the main train station in 12-15 minutes and a short walk of say 200-300 metres to the building over the railway bridge and around the green building in Schwerzenbach ZH station area. Excellent service from the girls here. Entrance is 90 CHF but they take 10 CHF as a deposit that is refunded when you leave so you need to stump up 100 CHF initially (about 75 euro). A hooker for half a hour full service is 140 CHF (about 105 euro). A lot of great looking girls. It is worth it just to come to see the eye candy in this place. Gorgeous Romanians, Poles, Germans, Czechs, Slovaks, Hungarians, maybe even the off Swiss hooker.

Other places worth going to is club Dreams, Rouge, Bumsalp (for the Kitsch Swiss style), Westside, Teeny Massage, etc... Man there is an enormous list of clubs and brothels in Zurich. The place is crawling with hookers to cater to the mass affluent and horny men of Zurich and all the auslanders (foreigners) staying there.

Although it is not really a Zurich dish you can pick up fondue as a meal. Try it out in the Neiderdof area which is a real happening part of town. There are also lots of stripclubs, porno kino and cabarets in the Neiderdorf area.

For streetwalkers and more nightclubs and cabarets that you can shake a stick at then head to Langstrasse. This area is crawling with sex for pay. Man, a kebab is like between 8 to 10 CHF. That is like 6 euro to 7.50 euro for meat and bread wrap with a bit of sauce and salad. The Swiss Turks do them well though.

If you are in Luzern then head to Palace. Great looking girls. Luzern is a pretty town. I like the wooden bridge and the cartoon drawings.

It may be a bit far but when in Constance the nearest club I can think of is Hawaii or Colosseum. You will need a car.

In Salzburg there is FKK Mystic that has been discussed on this thread before. Mystic girls are 65 euro per half a hour. If you want pure class and premium grade women then splash out at Babylon in Salzburg. The girls at Babylon costs a bit more. Check out the prices. Sky high come to mind.

Hope this helps. Please report back your findings here.

All the best.

Yours sincerely,

[Basketcase]

I am considering a lenghty Summer tour and this is my program:

If you are in Berlin then you should visit Artemis which is your originating destination. I would fly to Berlin and pick up a car there.

Move across Germany to around Osnabruck and maybe go to FKK Zeus.

Drive further south to NRW and then do Villa Vertigo, Golden Time, Living Room, Planet Happy Garden, Park Sauna Residenz and Yin Yang in NL. These clubs are in what I associate as the Dusseldorf area.

Keep moving south towards Cologne and then go to Park Sauna Residenz in Lohmar, Samya and if you like grandmothers you can go to Bernds, make a stop at Finca Erotica which is World's sister club before moving furher into:

Hessen for Das 5 Element and World in North Hessen. Move South to connect with Oase then move onto the renown and excellent Palace before taking a rest day at Atlantik in Hanau then onto Sharks in Darmstadt. If you have the time pop into FKK Figleaf in Worms.

Move across the State Border and visit Paradise in Stuttgart and look out for my favourite skinny Romanian then into Bayern for Collosseum in Augsburg and Hawaii in Ingolstadt.

Then keep going South to Switzerland or East to Austria.

I would pick Switzerland for the clubs like Globe, Dreams, Rouge, Bumsalp in Zurich and Palace in Luzern.

If going to Austria skip Babylon in Salzburg and keep on going to Golden Time in Vienna.

That trip should keep me happy.

Dear DkFatBastard and Others,

I have now had some more thinking on what to do for a Summer tour of Germany. I am unsure if anyone cares but some people have asked about logistics from Berlin or coming up from Switzerland or even Austria. These are all feasible and have been done before so there is experience in doing this.

Ortos reminded me about doing Amsterdam ("AMS") and I note that AMS is 446 km from Frankfurt am Main ("FFM") or 4 hours and 13 minutes driving. So that was a further option than a interlude to the East to Austria or a forway into Switzerland to the south.

In the end I have discounted Berlin as a a site for the tour. I am sorry Angus Magee that I will not be looking you up in your beer garden this time around. The logistics is that Berlin to FFM is 555 Km or 5 hours and 6 minutes driving. I know that girls at Oase do the FFM to Berlin trip often but then they are in porsches, audis and BMWs being the rewards from all their fucking for money.

AMS is not ruled out but on writing the list of clubs to visit I realised that I did not have enough days for AMS as well. I needed probably 2 days for AMS to do it well allowing me an overnight there at least. I would leave the car outside of AMS and train into the Centraal station.

I then made a list of all the clubs that I like to do and I know and then created clusters of where they are. Once I had that list of clubs I then realised what the tour program would be. I then worked out how many days that I had to devote and then allocated a club a day to each of the days of my tour. I then made up a budget for car hire, hotel, entrance fee and expected number of women that I would fuck each day. This came back to a number for me to decide on whether I can afford it. Last year it was a 17 day tour.

Anyway the program goes something like this. Sorry if this is incredibly boring but you do not have to read it.

I guess I will record my trip for future reference. I will also give a short explanation of the reasons why I do each clubs. The thing I have not done yet is decide in what order I will do each club since the day you go can mean going on an off day and being bored shitless or going on a excellent line up and you moaning that you only have one schwanz and just three bullets in your testicle magazine to use. I will probably leave that to when I am on the ground and take into account the weather and where I know certain girls are working or not working for that matter.

Because of where it all ended up the entry point does not matter whether it is Netherlands, Frankfurt, Cologne or Dusseldorf. It just means a bit more driving depending on where you start or interchange the location order.

The number of clubs is determined by the number of days of the tour. The numbers given are for reference only and do not indicate the order of visitation.

*** Dusseldorf Area ***
1. Golden Time
2. Living Room
3. Villa Vertigo
4. Planet Happy Garden
5. Yin Yang, NL

A visit to NRW is not complete without a visit to the fuck factory that is Golden Time (GT). Good to visit any day of the week.

If you do Golden Time it is almost obligatory to take advantage of the reduced entry on the same day to visit Living Room to continue the party.

Villa Vertigo should be allocated only Friday and Saturday since this is the advice that Stephan the general manager gave as the days with the best party atmosphere and most extensive line up.

Planet Happy Garden is not a club for Sundays so maybe a Thursday here.

Yin Yang is decent on a Thursday through to Saturday so I have some flexibility here.

*** Cologne Area ***
6. Park Sauna Residenz (PSR)
7. Bernds
8. Finca Erotica
9. Samya

PSR makes the list since it has excellent wellness facilities and the food is good as its cooked to order. The hookers do not approach you so you can hang out all day to 01:00 closing and not fuck anyone like some ice bears do. There is usually one or two hookers that should tempt you here.

Bernds - it is about time I fucked an oma (grandmother). Novelty value and one of those things you have to do like fucking twins.

Finca Erotica - it is on the way between FFM and Cologne. It has reduced entry and you can find a nice ex World girl here with excellent service. Fingers crossed she is there.

Samya - I need to be in the right mood here. This can be a fun place but having no porno kino may mean I need to talk to the girls. One time I was here I made friends with some crazy auslanders (foreigners) and we did make merry in the club. I think Hilding was there too. The Turkish management always make me feel welcome. I must remember to learn up on hockey before coming here is the tip. I probably will run into the local FFM crews like I normally do when I come here since they do not fuck in their own backyard.

*** Frankfurt area ***
10. Palace
11. World
12. Mainhattan
13. Sharks
14. Das 5 Element
15. Oase

The Frankfurt clubs that were renown as the big three has for me been expanded to be about 6 clubs worth visiting. Sharks, Das 5 Element and Mainhattan join the ranks of Oase, Palace and World for different reasons.

Sharks gets onto the list to see how it is going and to enjoy the facilities and decent food.

Das 5 Element gets onto the list despite the distance being in Fulda due to its outdoor facilities, wellness facilities and excellent cooked to order food.

FKK Mainhattan makes the list since it is worth going to see what it is like post its opening and see if any changes have been made. Also to see if the line up matures or if its a desert in terms of hookers.

World and Palace are worth going to any day of the week so make the list as the filler clubs in between making sure the less attended clubs are visited on their better days to even out the visits so one does not go to a small club on its worse day leaving the best days for the super clubs like World and Palace.

*** Stuttgart Area ***
16. Paradise

Paradise made the list because of a skinny girl we know there and it is not too onerous being about 200-250 km from FFM.

I know that the Ice Bears suggest going further south to Bayern to visit Hawaii and Colosseum but the general feeling I get is that if you have done the Frankfurt super clubs and Paradise in Stuttgart you may be dissappointed in the smaller Hawaii and Collosseum.

It is sad that Berlin fell off the list but the distance by motor vehicle was going to add significantly to the cost. It would be cheaper to fly there and devote more days to it on another trip. Also if I did hit Berlin I would like to see more of the sights rather than miss the sights spending the entire time in Artemis.

Yours sincerely,

[Bud Leeeeeeee]

Trip is with family and friends of family. THere is over 20 of us. I am traveling single(have own room in hotels) and will stay up late for some adventure. Once everyone or the majority goes to sleep I will have to get a taxi an make it happen. Want to get some FKK action!!!! 2 Lists from the family trip planner. Is there any MUST VISIT stops here? If I could get to GLobe in Zurich and some FKK in Heidelberg that would be just enough. I really want to get after it. Some sex every 3 days would be even better. WHats a good game plan? Willing to $300 with all included taxi, entrance, girl.

Here is the itenerary
Day 1: en route to Zurich - may get to hit Globe. Not enough details on length of time in Zurich at this point.
Days 2 -4: City Hotel Oberland, Interlaken - can't find much here.
Day 5: Schwarzwald Park Hotel, Koenigsfeld
Days 6-7: NH Hotel Heidelberg - should get off some good loads here.
Day 8: Arvena Reichsstadt Hotel, Bad Windsheim
Days:9-13: Hotel Alpin, Scheffau, Tyrol
Day 14: going home

We will use these or very similar hotels for this group.
Here is a rough itinerary for this group. You can follow our public itinerary and will see the differences implemented for this group:
Day 1: enroute to Zurich
Day 2: Zurich/Lucern/Bernese Oberland
Day 3: Bern/Emmental Valley
Day 4: Bemese Oberland
Day 5: Constance/Mainau
Day 6: Black ForestllHeidelberg
Day 7: Heidelberg
Day 8: Rothenburg/Franconia
Day 9: NurnberglTyrol
Day 10: Rattenbergllnnsbruck
Day 11: Salzburg
Day 12: Neuschwanstein Castle
Day 13: Berchtesgaden/Eagles Nest
Day 14: Departure

just a stab in the dark. I will ask the family planner questions about the amount of time in Zurich.

Would I be better off posting in Short Term Forum?

[Basketcase]

Anyone heard of / been to FKK Manhattan? Saw posters for it in Frankfurt on Saturday. A girl at Finca Erotica today (Sunday) told me it had just opened a few days ago in FRA and was supposed to be first-class facilities.

Dear Eric Cartman

FKK Mainhattan opened on 1 July during a big party day. The various forums other than this one have had reports of the opening day at Mainhattan posted on them already. Seems like an okay place but staffed with mainly dragoons from World and a few freelancers from elsewhere for the opening day. We will have to see what the regular crew will pan out to be like at Mainhattan.

There have been a number of posts on the Other FKKs thread that discuss FKK Mainhattan. I have attached a few of them here for your convenience.

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1039191
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1039631
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1039681
http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1037352

It may be worth a visit before the end of 8 July to take advantage of the 40 euro entrance fee for this downtown Frankfurt Main club. The entrance fee then increases to 65 euro from 9 July onwards.

Yours sincerely,

[Eric Cartman]

Anyone heard of / been to FKK Manhattan? Saw posters for it in Frankfurt on Saturday. A girl at Finca Erotica today (Sunday) told me it had just opened a few days ago in FRA and was supposed to be first-class facilities.

[John Moore]

Yes I read something about that FKK being around and then going under. This looks quite similar to a German FKK if you look at their website which is one of the slowest webpages I have encountered and also only in Czech.

The price is also a bit steep. 2000 Czech Koruna is about 78 Euros for entrance.

I translated the text from their website with Google Chrome:

"We would like to invite you to the first naturist FKK Saunaclub in the Czech Republic. Our firm works on the FKK (Frei Körper Kultur - culture of the body). We are located right in the center, about 100 meters from Wenceslas Square. For our customers we have a place to park directly in the yard. (Mob: +420 775 377 616). In areas covering more than 500 m2 await our masseuses all nationalities. After paying a membership fee you can take full advantage of our offer all-inclusive service without any time limitation."

They also only seem to offer massage when looking at the webpage but I guess "Fullservice Massage" is what you come for. The only massage that isn't price set.

Well I think it's nice to see the concept spreading and I hope it becomes a nice club and stays open.

The FKK idea was tried before in Prague, back in 2004. An Asian American guy named Joe I think, set up one about 15 miles south of Prague. I think it was called FKK Prague.

Now I had never been in a German FKK or Partytreff in 2004, so I thought the place was amazing, but looking back it was pretty shit compared to what Germany has to offer.

The women wouldn't take off their knickers but they did go around topless, some fine women he had too. Also some of the local guys wouldn't change out of their street clothes, and I remember feeling like a dickhead being the only one in a robe.

It only opened in the evening time but stayed open till 4 or 5 in the morning.
Anyway rumor has it that the local Mafia took it over about a year later, and converted it back to a regular Czech brothel or Niteclub as they are called over there. I also recall that it was discovered that Joe the owner, had various profiles on the good forum here, and used to post fake reports in the hope of drumming up some business.

Anyway I wish the new venture well and hope that they at least insist that that the clients all remove their street clothes when they visit.

PS I remember bare-backing two girls there and not posting it here, for fear of being Flamed!!! Lol!!