Monterrey

[Member #3453]

You still haven't said a thing other than to accuse me, and us, of jumping all over you because of your desire to falsely characterize the bars as dangerous. I am not interested in jumping all over you, but I am interested in accurately characterizing things as they truly are.

If I permit you to spread your false opinions about the bars being so dangerous, and your advocating that all should completely avoid them, rather than to simply express your opinion of why you like escorts, then others that are contemplating coming to Monterrey, primarily for the bar scene, will be put off. That's simply not what this forum is about either, advocating for one venue over another by making false and misleading statements. Certainly, not everything you posted about the bar scene is false or misleading. But, much of what you said was false and misleading.

Nobody takes issue that some of the bars are shit holes, or that some of the bars can cost a lot of money if you don't know what you're doing. But, on the other hand, not all people care how much they cost. I have seen numerous Gringos drop hundreds upon hundreds of dollars in the high end bars, and think nothing of it. That's their preferred activity...they want to...they like it. It is not my cup of tea, but I don't bash them for doing it, other than to warn that it will be expensive.

But you, you want all mongers to come to Monterrey amidst the dangers you say exist, dangers that are higher than they were several years ago, and to spend all there time with escorts. Some of them don't want escorts...some believe them to be expensive for the amount of time spent, and they don't like buying a pig in a poke without first interviewing the pig thoroughly, which they are ONLY able to do within the bar scene.

I don't bash anyone that likes the MP or the escort scene. I don't discourage them from going to those venues by scaring them off of another venue. If I like one venue over another, then I explain why. But, I don't falsely lead them to one venue over another by scaring them away from the other venue. Why would anyone do that??? Well, some have ulterior self serving motives. Maybe you don't, but rest assured, some do.

Regarding some detailed postings, I started out many years ago revealing intimate details about my own exploits in Monterrey. But, unfortunately, I found out very quickly that to reveal too much in the forum is dangerous to my own satisfaction in the hobby, primarily because there are a few people out there, similar to yourself seemingly, that take not only a delight in disagreeing with our points of view on some issues within the forum, but they diabolically enjoy taking these small disagreements even further by sabotaging our own enjoyment of the hobby on the ground. That's why we generally limit ourselves to logistical assistance, and/or sometimes more detailed intimate specifics within the PM system.

That is one reason I invited you to a meeting, first to establish you are not one of these nut cases commenting in sheep's clothing, and second to demonstrate that I have no animosity toward you. Frankly, I would rather turn this from a contentious meeting on-line into a better understanding of one another off-line. I find that often there are misunderstandings of personalities on-line, and on-line personalities sometimes clash. Often, once people meet off line, it reveals the true content of their character, personalities, and intentions, and on-line relationships are enhanced, as it should be. But, I was mocked by you in that endeavor. Fine, so be it then.

Some of these people that post on ISG, and other sites, often act as though they are off their meds, and a percentage of them should likely be under the confined care of a psychiatrist, or in a secure mental hospital. That's why we prefer to handle inquiries directly through PMs, rather than to post information here that is too detailed for the crazies to see.

Those that have come to Monterrey for the last ten years know us through our personal advice to them, they know the content of our character, and the validity of our advice. To put it bluntly, we don't shit in our own nest by commenting too publicly within the forum about anything other than logistical advise, and personal opinions.

I have no desire to continue this conversation, and I will fade totally away, but ONLY if you let it go. But, you keep bringing it up, characterizing things inaccurately. It isn't about a disagreement in preferences. You are characterizing things inaccurately with the same vigor that someone might have that has self serving ulterior motives.

Regarding this disagreement, we let it drop once. Now it's your turn. Follow your own advice, and resist the urge to answer this if you want things to cease. But, as long as you continue spreading more than just an expression of your preferences, with an apparent desire to discredit one venue over another, for whatever ulterior motives may or may not exist with you, we will be here to set the record straight.

I could say the same thing to you. Prove it! I haven't read any specific details from you at all. Nothing. Maybe the only Monterrey you know is the one Monterreydude walks you through.

EVERY hotel I've been to has allowed me to bring girls up. I wasn't even aware that this was an issue until I started reading about it here.

Next, How much time have you invested into making the scene at the club? I assume years. If someone is coming as a complete newbie, it is logical to assume that he will have to invest some decent change into finding the right girl to take out. That involves drinks, privados and the constant pestering for hand-outs from staff and/or girls. Let's not even mention the time invested.

For less money and way less time/hassle, you can go to a clean place, pick out the stunner of your choice and in an hour's time, be done and on your way.

Some people like the grimy club scene and it all boils down to personal preference. I don't mind spending the money as long as I can cut down on the time and hassle.

Over time, of course, things get more economical as you learn how to play the game and make a name for yourself. A few months ago I took a real stunner to Costa Rica on a semi-business trip. Price came out to less than 400 pesos an hour, total. And this is A+ material. When I was a newbie or if I just had a limited amount of time in town, this would not have been possible.

Please go back and review where this became a pissing match. I never took you guys on, I just was stating my opinion, belief and preference. If you like what you like and believe what you believe, fine. Just don't attack others for not sharing your ideas.

Leave this be. It's pointless to the purpose of this forum. Instead, post some helpful tips instead of making people beg for it personally. Resist the urge to answer this.

Let it go.

[Chester Boy]

Ok, prove it...

CB: It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited.

Ok, name the girl friendly hotels in Monterrey. I know them, do you?

CB: Hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home.

I routinely find girls in the strip clubs for less than three privados, $150 pesos, no drinks, and they will stay four hours. Cost is $1700 pesos. Name the high end MP where you an spend 4 hours with a girl for a total cost of $1,850 pesos. Misses? Hahhhh, fat chance...

CB: Now, I'll just sit back and wait to be shouted down and attacked again for daring to have a differing opinion.

No, just PROVE IT!!!

I could say the same thing to you. Prove it! I haven't read any specific details from you at all. Nothing. Maybe the only Monterrey you know is the one Monterreydude walks you through.

EVERY hotel I've been to has allowed me to bring girls up. I wasn't even aware that this was an issue until I started reading about it here.

Next, How much time have you invested into making the scene at the club? I assume years. If someone is coming as a complete newbie, it is logical to assume that he will have to invest some decent change into finding the right girl to take out. That involves drinks, privados and the constant pestering for hand-outs from staff and/or girls. Let's not even mention the time invested.

For less money and way less time/hassle, you can go to a clean place, pick out the stunner of your choice and in an hour's time, be done and on your way.

Some people like the grimy club scene and it all boils down to personal preference. I don't mind spending the money as long as I can cut down on the time and hassle.

Over time, of course, things get more economical as you learn how to play the game and make a name for yourself. A few months ago I took a real stunner to Costa Rica on a semi-business trip. Price came out to less than 400 pesos an hour, total. And this is A+ material. When I was a newbie or if I just had a limited amount of time in town, this would not have been possible.

Please go back and review where this became a pissing match. I never took you guys on, I just was stating my opinion, belief and preference. If you like what you like and believe what you believe, fine. Just don't attack others for not sharing your ideas.

Leave this be. It's pointless to the purpose of this forum. Instead, post some helpful tips instead of making people beg for it personally. Resist the urge to answer this.

Let it go.

[Member #3453]

Ok, prove it...

CB: It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited.

Ok, name the girl friendly hotels in Monterrey. I know them, do you?

CB: Hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home.

I routinely find girls in the strip clubs for less than three privados, $150 pesos, no drinks, and they will stay four hours. Cost is $1700 pesos. Name the high end MP where you an spend 4 hours with a girl for a total cost of $1,850 pesos. Misses? Hahhhh, fat chance...

CB: Now, I'll just sit back and wait to be shouted down and attacked again for daring to have a differing opinion.

No, just PROVE IT!!!

[Member #3453]

Well, I can only offer to be nice...beyond that you reveal the true nature of your intentions by the content of your comments.

Your comments reveal to me that you know nothing of Monterrey, and you're commenting with generalities.

I can assure you that I have no desire to get to know you two nor do I have any desire to read your self-important pap. When I first found this site and signed up, I went back and read up on what was going on in my neck of the woods. I went back nearly 30 pages and didn't find one really useful mongering report from either of you, just a lot of small talk and inside banter.

All the useful info came from others. Someone shouldn't have to meet with you personally to get info. That defeats the whole purpose of an online forum. Don't you guys see that?

Monterreydude, I was poking fun at you and your persistent denial of any dangers in Monterrey, not at the damages and tragedies caused by the hurricane. So, spare me the self-righteous act. What you're doing is the same as what you accuse me of: Downplaying a real danger just to push forward a personal agenda.

Anyway, here's the deal:

If you visit often or if you'll be here an extended period of time, you WILL have to risk yourself a bit at the clubs and/or low end MPs. The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

Once you're in, you'll have access to a group of girls who will be willing to service you at your place of residence or at the hotel of your choosing. By the way, I've never had any problem bringing girls to any hotel I've ever stayed at in Monterrey. It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited. I have my apartment now, but I still prefer to do business in a hotel. Maybe I'm the exception rather than the rule, but you will only get hassled if you want to stay at the chain hotels or American imports. Stay at hotels that are locally owned. You may not get internet access, but you won't get hassled if you bring girls in.

Anyway, establishing connections is the key. I've even had situations where Girl A has recommended Girls B and C to me. I never go to the strip clubs anymore and I wouldn't even consider visiting those clip joints unless my private stash completely ran dry. I now have about 8-10 top flight girls to turn to and about a half dozen more in reserve. It took me a few months to get there and I had to spend some money, but now things are cheap and easy for me. And, best of all, no semen-stained walls and disease-infested toilets. And no rubbing elbows with cartel thugs.

If you're in town for a short time and/or won't be back frequently, do yourself a favor and hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home. Day appointments are a huge plus for me since I enjoy hitting the legit anthros later on for amateur talent. As for specifics, I'll leave it to you to do a search through this forum. I want you to see for yourself how muddled Monterreydude and Unspongebob have made the board for all those looking for info other than stuff about El Infinito. The fact of the matter is that I rarely even go to MPs anymore, either. I just dip into my stash. Misses is king IMO and it's in a nice neighborhood with plenty of taxi service available. You can take money out from the Banamex ATM about a half block down, just so you're not walking around with a couple of grand in your wallet.

Again, tastes vary, but I always preferred a relaxed, safe, clean atmosphere where you could actually talk to the girls.

Now, I'll just sit back and wait to be shouted down and attacked again for daring to have a differing opinion.

[Chester Boy]

LOL. Now, I am 100% convinced that you are a wealthy local.

Only these types of people fall apart so completely when their ultimate authority is challenged. It's really like dealing with children sometimes. The insecurity is crazy. If I were Monterreydude's wife, he'd be beating me right now. LOL. Dude, having a few bucks in your wallet doesn't make you a member of the aristocracy, get over yourself.

As for the meat of your attack, I suggest you go re-read what I actually wrote. Stop putting words in my mouth and then trying to refute those points that I never even made.

Really, you might consider deleting this last post of yours. You come off sounding real bad:

Monterreydude: "If you have the monopoly of Universal Knowledge, you would know that half of the info referenced here is shown in public and the rest via PMs to the respective mongers that need it. "

(Why should info be withheld from people on a public forum? Yes, because you want them to come to YOU. All Hail Monterreydude, King of his pretend internet world)

Monterreydude: "You really don't have a live brain cell within you. Since Iam local, I know that a "mongering report" is useless after a couple of days. Specially with girl migration around the clubs. Being local I know that they move from place to place faster than you can even imagine. Being a local I know also that club policies change on a day by day basis. Being local, I know that escorts operate in the same way. "

(Being a local- you are a local, right? I wasn't sure of that. LOL. Well, being a local, price info and other logistics would be helpful to those checking in for the first time. You should have no trouble keeping a running tally of policy changes since you live on this forum and already waste so much time posting small talk and attacks on new members. But, of course, if they want any real, logistical help, they must come to YOU personally. All Hail King Monterreydude.)

Monterreydude: "Really? How about the mayority of the mongers that comes here for only 2 nights and leave and never return. Enlighten us what they can do under those circumstances. "

(If you had kept reading my post, you would've gotten the answer to that question.)

Monterreydude: "I don't get it. "I have an apartment now". How can you vouch for hotels being GF?

I really mean it. ALL HOTELS? "

(In that same section you commented on, I said that I have an apartment, but prefer to do business in the hotels. Surely you can understand the desire to keep mongering activities away from the place where you live and away from business associates, right? Or do you just bring these girls right to your door in broad daylight? And, where exactly did I say ALL HOTELS? I said all the hotels that I've used have not stopped me from bringing girls up. Learn to pay attention.)

As for my group of girls. I don't OWN them, I merely have their names in my phone book and hire them as needed, at about a 30-50% discount than what their initial price was. I'm not spending a fortune, I'm actually saving money from when I had to hassle with those clip joints that you hustle ISG members to. It's about going directly to the girl and eliminating agency fees or bar fines. It's simple unless, of course, you ARE the middle man.

Now, here's the best part of this pathetic attack:

Monterreydude: "If someone's here for a short time. They won't have the time, nor time enough to hit the high en MP's. They are here for work, remember? "

(LOL. They won't have the time for a quick 1 or 2 hour lunch time appointment, but you would have them spending all night at some dive club and then going for the lunch buffet the next day? Come on, that's the very definition of grasping at straws. The high end MPs are precisely made for their convenience to businessmen and people who don't want to waste 6-7 hours on finding a girl.)

The more I look at it, the more of a shill you appear to be. Directing everyone to 1 or 2 specific clubs, guiding people away from certain hotels because they are not "girl friendly" and presumably to others, which are, and insisting that any specifics be discussed on a person to person basis and away from the public forum.

To all those members of the ISG, Monterreydude probably can give you some useful info, but be aware that you are probably being hustled and that Monterrey is much bigger than the small world being presented.

And again, feel free to report any info that may affect our safety.

Monterreydude, please contain yourself and let this go. You can keep being the King of the ISG Monterrey board if that makes you feel better, just don't expect me to bow to you.

Naw. The more you write, the less I believe you.

CB says "I went back and read up on what was going on in my neck of the woods. I went back nearly 30 pages and didn't find one really useful mongering report from either of you, just a lot of small talk and inside banter. "

Monterreydude says: If you have the monopoly of Universal Knowledge, you would know that half of the info referenced here is shown in public and the rest via PMs to the respective mongers that need it.

CB says: "didn't find one really useful mongering report"

MD says: You really don't have a live brain cell within you. Since Iam local, I know that a "mongering report" is useless after a couple of days. Specially with girl migration around the clubs. Being local I know that they move from place to place faster than you can even imagine. Being a local I know also that club policies change on a day by day basis. Being local, I know that escorts operate in the same way.

CB says: If you visit often or if you'll be here an extended period of time, you WILL have to risk yourself a bit at the clubs and/or low end MPs. The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

MD says: Really? How about the mayority of the mongers that comes here for only 2 nights and leave and never return. Enlighten us what they can do under those circumstances.

CB says: The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

MD says: All your falacy is stuck with just this one paragrah. To establish a core of girls takes MONEY, tons of it. Even if they are escorts, club girls, MP girls, you need to drop a a LOT of money for them to start paying serious attention to you. And that is just "starting to notice you".

And I love this part "quickly". Tel that to the mongers that are here for only one day.

CB says: Once you're in, you'll have access to a group of girls who will be willing to service you at your place of residence or at the hotel of your choosing.

MD says: Can you tell me, how big if this "group of girl"? You must be dropping more money than any of us can imagine.

CB: By the way, I've never had any problem bringing girls to any hotel I've ever stayed at in Monterrey.

It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited. I have my apartment now, but I still prefer to do business in a hotel.

MD says: I don't get it. "I have an apartment now". How can you vouch for hotels being GF? If you've been here, you should know that Monterrey has tens of hotels where mongers stay all over the city.

Have you been to ALL these hotels: Intercontinental, Camino Real, Safi Valle, Ibis, Wyndham, Sheraton Ambssador, Sheraton Four Points, Quinta Real, Radisson Ancira, the HoJo, Safi Centro, Fiesta Inn Centro, Fiesta Inn Fidel Velazquez, Hampton Inn Galerias, Hamtpon Inn Aeropuerto, Hampton Inn San Nicolas?

I really mean it. ALL HOTELS?

CB says: Stay at hotels that are locally owned. You may not get internet access, but you won't get hassled if you bring girls in.

MD says: Locally owned hotels? Can we get the names of said "locally owned" hotels in Monterrey? Again, after reading that you have an apartment and you only stay in locally owned hotels. How can we trust your word that ALL hotels af girl friendly?

By the way, let me help you out. Safi hotels are localy owned, they have a 4 star and a grand tourism at the Colonia del Valle district AND offer internet acces AND do not allow any visitors to their rooms.

CB says: Anyway, establishing connections is the key. I've even had situations where Girl A has recommended Girls B and see to me

MD: Oh boy! Such a liar. Has any monger seen the instance of ho A recomending ho B so the customer can spend his money on B instead of on A? Not to mention add ho see to the equation?

CB says; "If you're in town for a short time and/or won't be back frequently, do yourself a favor and hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home. Day appointments are a huge plus for me since I enjoy hitting the legit anthros later on for amateur talent. "

MD says: If someone's here for a short time. They won't have the time, nor time enough to hit the high en MP's. They are here for work, remember? They don't have an apartment to bring the girls home. If they are here for mongering and the monger asks me about the high end MPs, I will gladly point out to him Versace, Misses, Regias, Romanos, though I recomend Extravaganza as a good option.

. And the coup de gras (this is the good one)

CB says: I now have about 8-10 top flight girls to turn to and about a half dozen more in reserve.

MD says: My, you have the market cornered. At least 20 girls in your pocket. Like I said, you must be Howard Hughes, cause it takes a LOT OF MONEY, not to mention time, tons and tons of available time to have, let us not say 20, nor 10. 5 girls in your pocket.

Naw. The more I read, the less I believe.

[MonterreyDude]

Naw... the more you write, the less I believe you.

CB says "I went back and read up on what was going on in my neck of the woods. I went back nearly 30 pages and didn't find one really useful mongering report from either of you, just a lot of small talk and inside banter. "

Monterreydude says: If you have the monopoly of Universal Knowledge, you would know that half of the info referenced here is shown in public and the rest via PMs to the respective mongers that need it.

CB says: "didn't find one really useful mongering report"
MD says: You really don't have a live brain cell within you. Since Iam local, I know that a "mongering report" is useless after a couple of days. Specially with girl migration around the clubs. Being local I know that they move from place to place faster than you can even imagine. Being a local I know also that club policies change on a day by day basis. Being local, I know that escorts operate in the same way.

CB says: If you visit often or if you'll be here an extended period of time, you WILL have to risk yourself a bit at the clubs and/or low end MPs. The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

MD says: Really??? How about the mayority of the mongers that comes here for only 2 nights and leave and never return... enlighten us what they can do under those circumstances.

CB says: The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

MD says: All your falacy is stuck with just this one paragrah. To establish a core of girls takes MONEY, tons of it. Even if they are escorts, club girls, MP girls, you need to drop a a LOT of money for them to start paying serious attention to you. And that is just "starting to notice you".
And I love this part "quickly"... tel that to the mongers that are here for only one day.

CB says: Once you're in, you'll have access to a group of girls who will be willing to service you at your place of residence or at the hotel of your choosing.

MD says: Can you tell me, how big if this "group of girl"??? You must be dropping more money than any of us can imagine.

CB: By the way, I've never had any problem bringing girls to any hotel I've ever stayed at in Monterrey.
It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited. I have my apartment now, but I still prefer to do business in a hotel.

MD says: I don't get it. "I have an apartment now". How can you vouch for hotels being GF??? If you've been here, you should know that Monterrey has tens of hotels where mongers stay all over the city.
Have you been to ALL these hotels: Intercontinental, Camino Real, Safi Valle, Ibis, Wyndham, Sheraton Ambssador, Sheraton Four Points, Quinta Real, Radisson Ancira, the HoJo, Safi Centro, Fiesta Inn Centro, Fiesta Inn Fidel Velazquez, Hampton Inn Galerias, Hamtpon Inn Aeropuerto, Hampton Inn San Nicolas?????
I really mean it.. ALL HOTELS?????

CB says: Stay at hotels that are locally owned. You may not get internet access, but you won't get hassled if you bring girls in.

MD says: Locally owned hotels? Can we get the names of said "locally owned" hotels in Monterrey? Again, after reading that you have an apartment and you only stay in locally owned hotels... how can we trust your word that ALL hotels af girl friendly???
By the way, let me help you out. Safi hotels are localy owned, they have a 4 star and a grand tourism at the Colonia del Valle district AND offer internet acces AND do not allow any visitors to their rooms.

CB says: Anyway, establishing connections is the key. I've even had situations where Girl A has recommended Girls B and C to me

MD: Oh boy!!! Such a liar. Has any monger seen the instance of ho A recomending ho B so the customer can spend his money on B instead of on A???? Not to mention add ho C to the equation??

CB says; "If you're in town for a short time and/or won't be back frequently, do yourself a favor and hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home. Day appointments are a huge plus for me since I enjoy hitting the legit anthros later on for amateur talent."

MD says: If someone's here for a short time... they won't have the time, nor time enough to hit the high en MP's. They are here for work, remember? They don't have an apartment to bring the girls home. If they are here for mongering and the monger asks me about the high end MPs, I will gladly point out to him Versace, Misses, Regias, Romanos, though I recomend Extravaganza as a good option.

.......... and the coup de gras (this is the good one)

CB says: I now have about 8-10 top flight girls to turn to and about a half dozen more in reserve.

MD says: My, you have the market cornered. At least 20 girls in your pocket. Like I said, you must be Howard Hughes, cause it takes a LOT OF MONEY, not to mention time, tons and tons of available time to have, let us not say 20, nor 10... 5 girls in your pocket.

Naw.... the more I read, the less I believe.

I can assure you that I have no desire to get to know you two nor do I have any desire to read your self-important pap. When I first found this site and signed up, I went back and read up on what was going on in my neck of the woods. I went back nearly 30 pages and didn't find one really useful mongering report from either of you, just a lot of small talk and inside banter.

All the useful info came from others. Someone shouldn't have to meet with you personally to get info. That defeats the whole purpose of an online forum. Don't you guys see that?

Monterreydude, I was poking fun at you and your persistent denial of any dangers in Monterrey, not at the damages and tragedies caused by the hurricane. So, spare me the self-righteous act. What you're doing is the same as what you accuse me of: Downplaying a real danger just to push forward a personal agenda.

Anyway, here's the deal:

If you visit often or if you'll be here an extended period of time, you WILL have to risk yourself a bit at the clubs and/or low end MPs. The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

Once you're in, you'll have access to a group of girls who will be willing to service you at your place of residence or at the hotel of your choosing. By the way, I've never had any problem bringing girls to any hotel I've ever stayed at in Monterrey. It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited. I have my apartment now, but I still prefer to do business in a hotel. Maybe I'm the exception rather than the rule, but you will only get hassled if you want to stay at the chain hotels or American imports. Stay at hotels that are locally owned. You may not get internet access, but you won't get hassled if you bring girls in.

Anyway, establishing connections is the key. I've even had situations where Girl A has recommended Girls B and C to me. I never go to the strip clubs anymore and I wouldn't even consider visiting those clip joints unless my private stash completely ran dry. I now have about 8-10 top flight girls to turn to and about a half dozen more in reserve. It took me a few months to get there and I had to spend some money, but now things are cheap and easy for me. And, best of all, no semen-stained walls and disease-infested toilets. And no rubbing elbows with cartel thugs.

If you're in town for a short time and/or won't be back frequently, do yourself a favor and hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home. Day appointments are a huge plus for me since I enjoy hitting the legit anthros later on for amateur talent. As for specifics, I'll leave it to you to do a search through this forum. I want you to see for yourself how muddled Monterreydude and Unspongebob have made the board for all those looking for info other than stuff about El Infinito. The fact of the matter is that I rarely even go to MPs anymore, either. I just dip into my stash. Misses is king IMO and it's in a nice neighborhood with plenty of taxi service available. You can take money out from the Banamex ATM about a half block down, just so you're not walking around with a couple of grand in your wallet.

Again, tastes vary, but I always preferred a relaxed, safe, clean atmosphere where you could actually talk to the girls.

Now, I'll just sit back and wait to be shouted down and attacked again for daring to have a differing opinion.

[Chester Boy]

We already heard all this stuff. Lets define the disagreement. The disagreement isn't that there is no danger in Monterrey.

The disagreement is that the danger has not exhibited itself in the clubs, and that you can, if you just follow some basic safety procedures, no different than any major mongering city with a high crime problem, be statistically safe in coming to Monterrey.

The shear numbers of people in Monterrey compared to the percentage of victims will substantiate that mathematically. But, we merely disagree...so, why are you escalating it, bringing it all up again? You are the one bullying by insisting on bringing up the disagreement again, and it is just that, merely a disagreement.

Tell us something "NEW" that demonstrates that you have any direct knowledge about mongering in Monterrey, and that you're not just a troll with a desire to post inflammatory rhetoric, OK?

And, to insinuate that my posts and opinions are only here to make Monterreydude happy is laughable. Have you not read the extent of our disagreements with one another over countless issues, some concerning mongering style, types of girls, preferences over clubs, politics, mongering strategy, etc...? To suggest we are one in the same individual is even more of a hoot!

Our disagreements are endlessly posted here on ISG for all to read, probably for the rest of eternity. They say that once stuff is posted on the internet, it is there forever. Your making the charge that we are somehow unconditionally harmonious reveals just how mistaken you really are with respect to the relationship between Monterreydude and myself.

We are friends, but we have disagreements in person, and online, quite frequently. But, if for no other reason, it should at least reveal the content of our character that we are not so petty as to allow our disagreements to escalate to the point of being offensive with respect to our postings. And, just because we are friends, doesn't mean that either of us would spare our own personal opinions to placate the other...

Can you not see that we are both too opinionated for that kind of restraint, to preserve our friendship at the cost of not being true to our own opinions?

Frankly, your comments reveal an underlying bias that suggests you have a alternative agenda of some kind, or that you are posting from the perspective of already being a former nemesis, someone with an already established history with us, possibly someone utilizing false screen names to escalate the rhetoric. Or, perhaps your purpose here is more akin to being a troll rather than a legitimate monger.

No matter which of these it is, if any, or none, we are beating a dead horse, verdad? And, of course, we are available to meet with you at any time, just so you will know we are for real. You will at least no longer be able to use that worn out accusation that we are anonymous, especially when so many know us personally, and understand the legitimacy of our connection to Monterrey, and the mongering hobby. Even those that disagree with us do not doubt the validity of that relationship. And, if you are so bold as to actually meet us, and assuming you are not an already well established nemesis with a prior and everlasting agenda, you will find us welcoming you into the fold, agreeing to disagree, but harmoniously standing by our opinions.

I can assure you that I have no desire to get to know you two nor do I have any desire to read your self-important pap. When I first found this site and signed up, I went back and read up on what was going on in my neck of the woods. I went back nearly 30 pages and didn't find one really useful mongering report from either of you, just a lot of small talk and inside banter.

All the useful info came from others. Someone shouldn't have to meet with you personally to get info. That defeats the whole purpose of an online forum. Don't you guys see that?

Monterreydude, I was poking fun at you and your persistent denial of any dangers in Monterrey, not at the damages and tragedies caused by the hurricane. So, spare me the self-righteous act. What you're doing is the same as what you accuse me of: Downplaying a real danger just to push forward a personal agenda.

Anyway, here's the deal:

If you visit often or if you'll be here an extended period of time, you WILL have to risk yourself a bit at the clubs and/or low end MPs. The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

Once you're in, you'll have access to a group of girls who will be willing to service you at your place of residence or at the hotel of your choosing. By the way, I've never had any problem bringing girls to any hotel I've ever stayed at in Monterrey. It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited. I have my apartment now, but I still prefer to do business in a hotel. Maybe I'm the exception rather than the rule, but you will only get hassled if you want to stay at the chain hotels or American imports. Stay at hotels that are locally owned. You may not get internet access, but you won't get hassled if you bring girls in.

Anyway, establishing connections is the key. I've even had situations where Girl A has recommended Girls B and C to me. I never go to the strip clubs anymore and I wouldn't even consider visiting those clip joints unless my private stash completely ran dry. I now have about 8-10 top flight girls to turn to and about a half dozen more in reserve. It took me a few months to get there and I had to spend some money, but now things are cheap and easy for me. And, best of all, no semen-stained walls and disease-infested toilets. And no rubbing elbows with cartel thugs.

If you're in town for a short time and/or won't be back frequently, do yourself a favor and hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home. Day appointments are a huge plus for me since I enjoy hitting the legit anthros later on for amateur talent. As for specifics, I'll leave it to you to do a search through this forum. I want you to see for yourself how muddled Monterreydude and Unspongebob have made the board for all those looking for info other than stuff about El Infinito. The fact of the matter is that I rarely even go to MPs anymore, either. I just dip into my stash. Misses is king IMO and it's in a nice neighborhood with plenty of taxi service available. You can take money out from the Banamex ATM about a half block down, just so you're not walking around with a couple of grand in your wallet.

Again, tastes vary, but I always preferred a relaxed, safe, clean atmosphere where you could actually talk to the girls.

Now, I'll just sit back and wait to be shouted down and attacked again for daring to have a differing opinion.

[Bbond]

Damn, goddamn. everywhere in Mexico, especially the border areas, have problems right now. You can advise for or against visiting. A visitor may or may not have problems, as it ALWAYS has been. So why waste bandwidth either way. An informed monger is a wise monger, but when advise comes from both directions, what's a guy to think. Go, have fun, and if you get your ass in a sling, that's the way Mexico operates. The drug wars are just that, drug wars, if your not involved chances are you are not a target. Getting caught in a cross fire, shit, that fact can happen in a McDonalds anywhere USA.

Bottom line, tell us, as per what this forum is about, where the chicas are, where to get the best bang for the dollars spent.

The violence, and toll from said violence, can be read in several newspapers.
Enough bickering is enough, and, personally, I have read enough. Let's get back to the theme of the forum.

[MonterreyDude]

God, you really don't even read a single post in this forum.

Read post #92570 (July 3)

Let me help you our cause it seems you don't know how to navigate within a webpage.

And I copy/paste:

Guys, check Youtube.

Key words, Alex - Monterrey.

You'll see how the city fared.

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Keep ranting Chester Boy.
You're more than a disaster than Monterrey is right now.
Your making fun of other people's suffering.

Next thing you know, Monterreydude will be telling you that Hurricane Alex's worst was just a slight drizzle!

My point, regardless of what two anonymous bullies on a mongering message board tell you, is this: Please feel free to post any and all stories that may potentially affect our safety. We'll decide later if they're true or not, but the most important thing is for there to be an atmosphere of feeling comfortable to share information without immediately being shouted down and belittled. This is especially important in an area that is growing increasingly more dangerous. As Monterreydude would have it now: HE'LL be the one to decide what info is shared here. And, I'm sorry buddy, but that doesn't cut it.

And I say "anonymous" because I don't know either of you from Adam and I'd be a damn fool to trust you at face value, especially after your behavior over the last few days and your insistence upon denying, deflecting and shouting down all opposing viewpoints. You guys are the ones with the agenda. Monterreydude wants you to come to select clubs while Unspongebob just wants to make Monterreydude happy.

I don't care if anyone comes to Monterrey or not and I don't care if they go to escorts, MPs, or strip clubs. Why would I care one way or another? I just don't want my fellow hobbyists to accidentally walk into a dangerous situation and meet a tragic end.

Is that so vile and offensive? I have not written a single thing that is untrue, so why the attacks?

* Is Monterrey dangerous at the moment? Yes, especially in any area involving drugs or the cartels.

* Are the thugs growing bolder and more proficient? Yes. Blocking city streets, storming tourist-friendly hotels, attacking law enforcement, etc. No city in the US can be compared to the type of violence that regularly takes place in many parts of Mexico. It's a completely different animal.

* Are the clubs populated with cartel thugs? Yes.

Again, I repeat: What's so vile and offensive about telling people to be aware and offering them an alternate strategy than just blindly walking into places recommended on message boards by anonymous members? I mean, really, for all I know, 3 or 4 of you could all be the same person posting under alternate names. These things happen and it's just as easy to assume that than for Unspongebob to assume that I'm some sort of plant for establishments THAT I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED!

Ok, that's my rant. Now, back to the prevailing logic here: Hurricane Alex? Nothing but a drizzle. After all, it also rains in Chicago!

[Member #3453]

We already heard all this stuff. Lets define the disagreement. The disagreement isn't that there is no danger in Monterrey.

The disagreement is that the danger has not exhibited itself in the clubs, and that you can, if you just follow some basic safety procedures, no different than any major mongering city with a high crime problem, be statistically safe in coming to Monterrey.

The shear numbers of people in Monterrey compared to the percentage of victims will substantiate that mathematically. But, we merely disagree...so, why are you escalating it, bringing it all up again? You are the one bullying by insisting on bringing up the disagreement again, and it is just that, merely a disagreement.

Tell us something "NEW" that demonstrates that you have any direct knowledge about mongering in Monterrey, and that you're not just a troll with a desire to post inflammatory rhetoric, OK?

And, to insinuate that my posts and opinions are only here to make Monterreydude happy is laughable. Have you not read the extent of our disagreements with one another over countless issues, some concerning mongering style, types of girls, preferences over clubs, politics, mongering strategy, etc...? To suggest we are one in the same individual is even more of a hoot!

Our disagreements are endlessly posted here on ISG for all to read, probably for the rest of eternity. They say that once stuff is posted on the internet, it is there forever. Your making the charge that we are somehow unconditionally harmonious reveals just how mistaken you really are with respect to the relationship between Monterreydude and myself.

We are friends, but we have disagreements in person, and online, quite frequently. But, if for no other reason, it should at least reveal the content of our character that we are not so petty as to allow our disagreements to escalate to the point of being offensive with respect to our postings. And, just because we are friends, doesn't mean that either of us would spare our own personal opinions to placate the other...

Can you not see that we are both too opinionated for that kind of restraint, to preserve our friendship at the cost of not being true to our own opinions?

Frankly, your comments reveal an underlying bias that suggests you have a alternative agenda of some kind, or that you are posting from the perspective of already being a former nemesis, someone with an already established history with us, possibly someone utilizing false screen names to escalate the rhetoric. Or, perhaps your purpose here is more akin to being a troll rather than a legitimate monger.

No matter which of these it is, if any, or none, we are beating a dead horse, verdad? And, of course, we are available to meet with you at any time, just so you will know we are for real. You will at least no longer be able to use that worn out accusation that we are anonymous, especially when so many know us personally, and understand the legitimacy of our connection to Monterrey, and the mongering hobby. Even those that disagree with us do not doubt the validity of that relationship. And, if you are so bold as to actually meet us, and assuming you are not an already well established nemesis with a prior and everlasting agenda, you will find us welcoming you into the fold, agreeing to disagree, but harmoniously standing by our opinions.

Next thing you know, Monterreydude will be telling you that Hurricane Alex's worst was just a slight drizzle!

My point, regardless of what two anonymous bullies on a mongering message board tell you, is this: Please feel free to post any and all stories that may potentially affect our safety. We'll decide later if they're true or not, but the most important thing is for there to be an atmosphere of feeling comfortable to share information without immediately being shouted down and belittled. This is especially important in an area that is growing increasingly more dangerous. As Monterreydude would have it now: HE'LL be the one to decide what info is shared here. And, I'm sorry buddy, but that doesn't cut it.

And I say "anonymous" because I don't know either of you from Adam and I'd be a damn fool to trust you at face value, especially after your behavior over the last few days and your insistence upon denying, deflecting and shouting down all opposing viewpoints. You guys are the ones with the agenda. Monterreydude wants you to come to select clubs while Unspongebob just wants to make Monterreydude happy.

I don't care if anyone comes to Monterrey or not and I don't care if they go to escorts, MPs, or strip clubs. Why would I care one way or another? I just don't want my fellow hobbyists to accidentally walk into a dangerous situation and meet a tragic end.

Is that so vile and offensive? I have not written a single thing that is untrue, so why the attacks?

* Is Monterrey dangerous at the moment? Yes, especially in any area involving drugs or the cartels.

* Are the thugs growing bolder and more proficient? Yes. Blocking city streets, storming tourist-friendly hotels, attacking law enforcement, etc. No city in the US can be compared to the type of violence that regularly takes place in many parts of Mexico. It's a completely different animal.

* Are the clubs populated with cartel thugs? Yes.

Again, I repeat: What's so vile and offensive about telling people to be aware and offering them an alternate strategy than just blindly walking into places recommended on message boards by anonymous members? I mean, really, for all I know, 3 or 4 of you could all be the same person posting under alternate names. These things happen and it's just as easy to assume that than for Unspongebob to assume that I'm some sort of plant for establishments THAT I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED!

Ok, that's my rant. Now, back to the prevailing logic here: Hurricane Alex? Nothing but a drizzle. After all, it also rains in Chicago!

[Toold28]

In 1968 I was told by the manager of a motel/-re house in Nuevo Laredo, that a person could go anywhere at any time, day or night, with no problems as long as you showed not fear. And within weeks, my brother and I went anywhere we wanted, by foot and car.

Young and dumb. Some where in learning fearlessness, I lost the preception of danger for many years. It took for me an incident in Terreón Mexico, another in Mexico City, a 3rd in Orange Walk Belize another in Memphis Tennessee, to come to my senses and recognise again that there are dangers in this hobby.

Each and every person has to make their own decision as to danger. I spent 24 years working in topless clubs in Houston. In my eyes there is a little danger in strip clubs anywhere. You must be aware of your surroundings at all times and stay alert.

MonterreyDude, Bbond and Usb have all proved to be trusted and respected. I can honestly say that each of these men would immediately inform us all if they thought that there was any abnormal dangers. Not just in Monterrey but anywhere. They would not let us walk into somewhere to be blindsided.

Certainly there is some danger, but is it so bad and so prevalent as to keep a person from having an enjoyable, restfull get away and staying away?

[Chester Boy]

Next thing you know, Monterreydude will be telling you that Hurricane Alex's worst was just a slight drizzle!

My point, regardless of what two anonymous bullies on a mongering message board tell you, is this: Please feel free to post any and all stories that may potentially affect our safety. We'll decide later if they're true or not, but the most important thing is for there to be an atmosphere of feeling comfortable to share information without immediately being shouted down and belittled. This is especially important in an area that is growing increasingly more dangerous. As Monterreydude would have it now: HE'LL be the one to decide what info is shared here. And, I'm sorry buddy, but that doesn't cut it.

And I say "anonymous" because I don't know either of you from Adam and I'd be a damn fool to trust you at face value, especially after your behavior over the last few days and your insistence upon denying, deflecting and shouting down all opposing viewpoints. You guys are the ones with the agenda. Monterreydude wants you to come to select clubs while Unspongebob just wants to make Monterreydude happy.

I don't care if anyone comes to Monterrey or not and I don't care if they go to escorts, MPs, or strip clubs. Why would I care one way or another? I just don't want my fellow hobbyists to accidentally walk into a dangerous situation and meet a tragic end.

Is that so vile and offensive? I have not written a single thing that is untrue, so why the attacks?

* Is Monterrey dangerous at the moment? Yes, especially in any area involving drugs or the cartels.

* Are the thugs growing bolder and more proficient? Yes. Blocking city streets, storming tourist-friendly hotels, attacking law enforcement, etc. No city in the US can be compared to the type of violence that regularly takes place in many parts of Mexico. It's a completely different animal.

* Are the clubs populated with cartel thugs? Yes.

Again, I repeat: What's so vile and offensive about telling people to be aware and offering them an alternate strategy than just blindly walking into places recommended on message boards by anonymous members? I mean, really, for all I know, 3 or 4 of you could all be the same person posting under alternate names. These things happen and it's just as easy to assume that than for Unspongebob to assume that I'm some sort of plant for establishments THAT I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED!

Ok, that's my rant. Now, back to the prevailing logic here: Hurricane Alex? Nothing but a drizzle. After all, it also rains in Chicago!

[Bbond]

You have to hold the ALT key down for the full sequence. Then, when you let up on the ALT key it prints the single letter. You don't have to go back after pressing the ALT sequence and print the letter, it just does it automatically when you let up on ALT.

Same as with Alt 164 and 165, hold the alt key and type numbers, release alt key and correct ñ or Ñ should appear.

[Member #3453]

Try alt 0209 for Ñ, and alt 0241 for ñ, see if that works correctly.

Ok...trying it now.

Ñ
that was with the ALT + 0209

ñ
that was with the ALT + 0241

You have to hold the ALT key down for the full sequence. Then, when you let up on the ALT key it prints the single letter. You don't have to go back after pressing the ALT sequence and print the letter, it just does it automatically when you let up on ALT.

[Bbond]

But, for some reason it's duplicating the "ñ" like this every time: ñn , and I have to go back and erase the English "n." I'll have to experiment more with it, unless someone knows what I might be doing wrong. I've tried it a number of times using the ALT + 164, and it always comes up this way.

Try alt 0209 for Ñ, and alt 0241 for ñ, see if that works correctly.